Amy Robach
Appearances
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True Crime Vault: The DNA Detective
And now, after just two days, they may have one. Here's Ryan Smith.
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True Crime Vault: The DNA Detective
The murder trial of Raymond Rowe is expected to start next May.
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True Crime Vault: The DNA Detective
And I'm Amy Robach. For all of us here at 2020 and ABC News, have a great night.
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True Crime Vault: The DNA Detective
Tonight, the family that never gave up. The revolutionary science that turns a drop of DNA into a literal portrait. And the DNA detective who finally broke the case without ever leaving home.
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True Crime Vault: Family Secrets
And I'm Amy Robach. From all of us here at ABC News in 2020, good night.
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True Crime Vault: From Classroom to Captive
Und dann, der Ende der Straße, in einem verlassenen Kabinett. Ich dachte, das war der Ende. Er wird jemanden schießen. Jetzt, der Kampf gegen ihn ist vorbei. Sie kämpft immer noch gegen die Stadt, die sie glaubt.
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True Crime Vault: From Classroom to Captive
And I'm Amy Robach. And this is 2020. It was one of the biggest stories of the year. The girl who went from classroom to captive.
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True Crime Vault: From Classroom to Captive
Strong and not afraid. 2020 reached out to Tad Cummins' attorney to comment about tonight's interview. They declined to comment. Tad Cummins and his wife are now divorced.
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True Crime Vault: From Classroom to Captive
And I'm Amy Robach. For all of us here at 2020 in ABC News, have a great night.
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True Crime Vault: From Classroom to Captive
Die Hulu Original Series Good American Family premieres March 19th streaming on Hulu.
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True Crime Vault: From Classroom to Captive
There are new clues tonight about that Tennessee teen. He was a teacher at this school.
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True Crime Vault: From Classroom to Captive
Tonight on 2020, the nationwide manhunt and girlhunt that transfixed the country. That 15-year-old Tennessee student on the run with her 50-year-old teacher, a married father with children.
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True Crime Vault: New DNA Analysis in a Murder
There has to have been another car. And... We have a mechanic in that area stepping forward and saying, I know I didn't mention it 20 years ago, but actually.
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True Crime Vault: New DNA Analysis in a Murder
We were in the same Eccles Scholars program. The Eccles Scholars program pulls the top 6% of each entering class.
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True Crime Vault: New DNA Analysis in a Murder
He had the physique more of a boy than a man, kind of baby fat. They had big, thick glasses that covered about half of his face. They said that most people really couldn't stand to be in a conversation with them because he just loved to argue. He was intellectually arrogant? I would say so.
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True Crime Vault: New DNA Analysis in a Murder
She had this great shock of blonde hair hanging down, and she was the opposite of who you think might end up with Yen Tsering.
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True Crime Vault: New DNA Analysis in a Murder
Yes, very few people understood what was going on between those two.
Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes present: Aubrey O’Day, Covering the Diddy Trial
The Diddy Trial: Third Week of Testimony Resumes
Listen to Betrayal on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here.
Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes present: Aubrey O’Day, Covering the Diddy Trial
The Diddy Trial: Third Week of Testimony Resumes
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here.
Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes present: Aubrey O’Day, Covering the Diddy Trial
Dawn Richard Takes the Stand
And it truly sheds light on all the testimony we're hearing in the courtroom.
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Dawn Richard Takes the Stand
So you called police.
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Dawn Richard Takes the Stand
I was just going to ask that. Do you think perhaps she could have changed based on the environment that she was witnessing day in and day out? Probably.
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Dawn Richard Takes the Stand
Well, you know, it's interesting, and that is lost in all of this, because yes, we're focused on the alleged abuse and the alleged crimes, but there were real people who obviously were hurt, but then there were real careers that were ended, and then when you reflect back at all the time and all the work and all the emotion and all the sacrifices you made are now just all chalked up.
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Dawn Richard Takes the Stand
And she's not even friends with Cassie anymore. The moment she got that 30, what was it? Oh, How much did she get? 30 grand for being assaulted by Diddy. Yeah. She cut off all communications with Cassie Ventura. And to me, that also lent a lot of credibility to where she was and what she wanted afterwards, which was nothing from that. Yep. Yep.
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Dawn Richard Takes the Stand
Going back to your relationship with Dawn and the fact that when she did hit you, you did call police. That, to me, would separate you from a lot of other folks within the circle that they know, whoa, if Aubrey is around or if anything happens to Aubrey, she is going to notify authorities.
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Dawn Richard Takes the Stand
It might have hurt you career-wise, but it protected you in a lot of other ways. I just needed to have it be documented. Well, Aubrey, we appreciate all the inside information. This truly helps all of us watch this trial and pay attention to this trial in a different way. So you have been incredible, and we have much more with Aubrey O'Day. Thank you for listening.
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Dawn Richard Takes the Stand
There is so much more to come, so keep checking out the podcast. We appreciate it.
Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes present: Aubrey O’Day, Covering the Diddy Trial
Dawn Richard Takes the Stand
It wasn't giving that. Was it corroborating? Was it confusing?
Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes present: Aubrey O’Day, Covering the Diddy Trial
Dawn Richard Takes the Stand
Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes present Aubrey O'Day Covering the Diddy Trial is based on transcripts, sources, and reporting from the courtroom. As is obvious, Aubrey O'Day is not present in the courtroom during the proceedings.
Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes present: Aubrey O’Day, Covering the Diddy Trial
Dawn Richard Takes the Stand
Yeah, let's talk about Dawn. First, let's establish for our listeners what your relationship was and is with Dawn Richard. We know she was a former bandmate of yours, but who was Dawn to you?
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Dawn Richard Takes the Stand
Amy and T.J.
Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes present: Aubrey O’Day, Covering the Diddy Trial
Dawn Richard Takes the Stand
Okay, what we read or what we heard from what her testimony was yesterday, and a lot of people were saying inconsistent, reads that's exactly the Dawn Richard that you knew. Yeah. 20 years ago.
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Dawn Richard Takes the Stand
So when we heard Dawn testify and the access she says she had to Diddy and to Cassie and what she saw and what she witnessed, that was different than the access that you and your other bandmates had? Did she have a different relationship with Diddy and with Cassie than you all did?
Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes present: Aubrey O’Day, Covering the Diddy Trial
Dawn Richard Takes the Stand
But you all at the time had no idea she was sexually involved whatsoever with Diddy.
Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes present: Aubrey O’Day, Covering the Diddy Trial
Dawn Richard Takes the Stand
That's right. You can read the transcripts. You can look at all the coverage. And still, it's not the same until you actually talk with someone who was in that inner circle, who was there during those years when Aubrey all of this was going on and who personally experienced Sean Diddy Combs at his best and at his worst. And Aubrey O'Day is that person.
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Dawn Richard Takes the Stand
In terms of those inconsistencies that the defense team pointed out in cross-examination, one of the more bombshell allegations she had made, I believe in her civil lawsuit, was that other celebrities, and she named them, we're talking Usher, Neo, to name a few, actually personally were there and witnessed Sean Diddy Combs punching Cassie Ventura in the stomach, I believe, at a restaurant.
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Dawn Richard Takes the Stand
Do you think he learned perhaps that it's better to go ahead and be transparent with your choices versus?
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Dawn Richard Takes the Stand
I have a question for you, Aubrey, because had you seen something like that, had you seen Diddy punch Cassie, would you have felt comfortable speaking up, going to authorities, doing something about it? Yes.
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Sources say…
Amy and TJ presents Aubrey O'Day Covering the Diddy Trial. Hello everyone and welcome, welcome to this latest episode of Amy and TJ present Aubrey O'Day. We are sitting in a studio in New York, just way up the street here in Manhattan from as we sit here, as we speak, Aubrey, the testimony continues in the Diddy Trial. Sure does.
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as we wrap up here is of course if anybody wants to go read some negative comments you got plenty of opportunities and plenty of options but i want to ask um not to address anybody directly here aubrey from the moment we met you you kind of came in hot here to new york because as soon as you got here folks knew you were coming or saw that you were coming jumped to conclusion and just the heat started so you we've been here with you the last three four uh plus days and i just i want to ask you personally because you come off obviously
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You have no problem speaking your mind. You have no problem calling somebody that writes negatively about you a bitch and complain about her bangs. You have no problem speaking.
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Sources say…
So to my point, anyone listening, this is a strong woman who doesn't have any problem speaking up. I just have to ask, though, as a human being, it's coming at you from a lot of places. And just what has, and you've been kind of holed up in a hotel room here for several days. Diddy's Hotel.
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But tell me, really, just what have the last several days, just not responding to anybody directly, what is that like in the quiet moments when all of this is going on, it's coming back up, but then all of this heat is coming at you? I'm just asking how you're doing, Aubrey.
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Sources say…
You have been here with us for the past several days, but you came here and many people thought you were going to be testifying and that made a lot of headlines and apparently robes, from what we've been reading as well. A lot of people were looking forward to her testimony and then were disappointed when she didn't testify. And then an avalanche of comments came.
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Sources say…
Well, we wanted to give here a moment, an opportunity, because yes, I know Twitter and social media can be a... Disgusting. Okay, place. Keep it trash. Dumpster fire. But people have, some of them, have some questions that are legit. And we want to give you an opportunity.
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Sources say…
But here's the thing. Well, legit being people have a legitimate. They don't put it in a legit way, but they want to know why didn't she testify? And they want to put it on you as if you chose not to. So something here says, I won't lie. I was disappointed when I found out you, Aubrey, weren't testifying any reason as to why they chose not to have you testify, but choose Don. Okay.
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To that point, I just want to follow up with this. I did everything I could. I want to follow up with this next person who's along those same lines.
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Sources say…
Well, no, directly to you. Talked so much up until the trial, preached NDA, but does not testify to promote a podcast. So they're disappointed. So again, if somebody might have that question, they put it in a particular way, but somebody like, wait a minute, she don't want to testify because she has a business venture or like legitimate.
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But address that, the idea that somebody thinks that you didn't testify so that you can promote some business venture.
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And that should be said, everybody. She was not beating down the door of iHeart begging somebody, please give her a microphone. That should absolutely be said and be made clear.
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What's the name of this movie? We want to watch.
Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes present: Aubrey O’Day, Covering the Diddy Trial
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I'm so sorry, Lifetime.
Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes present: Aubrey O’Day, Covering the Diddy Trial
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Were you a villain in the movie?
Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes present: Aubrey O’Day, Covering the Diddy Trial
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She was a victim.
Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes present: Aubrey O’Day, Covering the Diddy Trial
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Good job, bitch. I'm trying to see if there's any other... Miss... You dear, dear lady.
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I'm sure she's a lovely, lovely person.
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I tried to figure out how... How she could have misinterpreted. How there was a mistake. I don't care. We have talked to you about this trial. I don't care. I think more than probably just our Amy Sugarman, our producer, is probably the only other person you've talked to about this trial more than us. There is nothing you said that I could pluck out.
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How could anybody think that Aubrey O'Day was supporting Diddy in the courtroom?
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The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
And you know what also is interesting, given all of that, to then have Derek Ferguson take the stand, Diddy's CFO, and say that he never saw anything untoward. He never saw any improper financial movement. And with all of this...
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The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
testimony we've heard about did he paying people off or even cassie ventura finds own mother saying she wired him twenty thousand dollars now ferguson did acknowledge that there was a twenty thousand dollar uh payment back to cassie ventura's mother so that did exist but was that not questionable why was he paying you know
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The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
It's hard for me to, yes, it's hard for me to imagine that the CFO had no idea of anything illegal or improper happening financially when clearly that had to have happened if what people are alleging happened. occurred. Money had to be exchanged. Money had to be offered in payment to people. What did he think those payments were for?
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The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
Does the CFO, isn't that part of their responsibility to ask why this money is being... Do they?
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The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
Wow. I keep thinking about that. The return of that $20,000 had to be the worst money you've ever received in your life because it'd be such a sinking feeling, like rejected. You don't get your daughter. I still have her and I'm keeping her. Here's your money back. That just had to be gutting to her.
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The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
I thought something really interesting occurred when he was asked, when Derek Ferguson was asked, do you think highly of Mr. Combs? His response, and he took a pause, a long pause. I don't know how to respond to that. What do you make of that?
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The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
Do you believe that?
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The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
Really?
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The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
That's my point. I'm skeptical as hell. you could have purposefully removed yourself from situations where you would have to acknowledge that you saw things. So in my mind, it's hard for me to believe that he didn't know
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The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
Things were happening, but he deliberately removed himself or wasn't a part of any conversation or in any sort of room where something could be said or he could have learned something that he would have then had to testify to.
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The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
Okay, fine, but that's also still... You know something's going on, you just don't want to know what's going on.
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The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
That might be a legal versus a moral dilemma because I cannot believe that he didn't think That stuff was happening.
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The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
There's no way he didn't. That's my point.
Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes present: Aubrey O’Day, Covering the Diddy Trial
The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, Danity King alum, Aubrey O'Day, joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
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The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
Well, he asked if, I don't know if this was a redirect, but he was asked, you know, has anyone, did he ever see anyone commit any crimes? No. He said no. And he said, what I observed with Bad Boy and Sean Combs was a company that really gave a lot of young executives a lot of opportunities.
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The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
He put a positive spin on it, but we've heard from so many of those young folks, maybe not even executives, but artists, emerging artists saying those opportunities came at a devastating cost.
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The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
Yeah, maybe he just was mostly in his life via email. It's quite seriously. I'm saying that like maybe he never really physically was around him very often to see some of these other sides of him and to even get an inkling about what was happening. Maybe they just had an email relationship.
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The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
So I'm curious, with what he testified to, what was the benefit to the prosecution to have him on? What did he corroborate? The $20,000 payment?
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The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
I mean, I was kind of expecting maybe some of those transactions to be detailed by him because he had the account of it. So I was I was actually underwhelmed by what he had to offer in terms of bolstering the prosecution's case.
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The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
Well, today we're going to get perhaps a little bit more of that type of testimony because we are expecting, as we mentioned, Brianna Bungalon to actually take the stand today. We're expecting that later today. And then after that, we're all kind of waiting for this Jane character to testify. That is a pseudonym. Jane Doe is what the moniker is that they're giving her.
Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes present: Aubrey O’Day, Covering the Diddy Trial
The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
Listen to Amy and TJ presents Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy trial on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes present: Aubrey O’Day, Covering the Diddy Trial
The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
But there are real concerns given what happened with Mia. Mia was also being protected because she is allegedly a rape survivor. She claims that Diddy raped her and sexually assaulted her. So she was offered that anonymity. And unfortunately, at least one YouTuber put her name out there and has now been banned from the courtroom. But that's a real concern.
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The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
And so the prosecution has asked when Jane does take the stand, they're asking the judge to consider what happened with Mia. And they're asking that video feeds actually be cut into some of these overflow rooms.
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The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
It is. Let's go viral. It is. You know, when anyone tries to profit off of like actual painful, devastating, horrific information, It's just, it's sickening. So yes, let's go viral, free puff. That's deeply concerning to think that those are some of the folks who are reporting on this trial and what's happening inside the courtroom.
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The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
welcome everyone to the amy and tj podcast amy robach here along with my partner tj holmes and we are giving you your one-stop shop for your latest ditty trial updates we sit here just a couple blocks away from the courthouse and testimony is continuing today right now frank piazza is up on the stand he's a forensic video expert and he's going to be talking about the validity
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The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
It's certainly not the decorum that any of us are used to in any way, shape, or form.
Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes present: Aubrey O’Day, Covering the Diddy Trial
The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, Danity King alum, Aubrey O'Day, joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes present: Aubrey O’Day, Covering the Diddy Trial
The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
Listen to Amy and TJ Presents Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy Trial on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an iHeart Podcast.
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The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
of a lot of what we heard and saw yesterday regarding that surveillance video in that hotel where we see Diddy attacking his then girlfriend, Cassie Ventura.
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The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
That's right. Breonna actually was first up to take the witness down, but it's because she had to take that immunity or trying to get the judge. She's waiting for the judge to grant an order of immunity. So she can't testify until she gets that order. The judge will likely do that. It just is kind of clerical.
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The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
We're just waiting for him to say it, but she wanted to make sure that she had that immunity because not only is she expected to testify about being dangled over a 17 floor, I believe, balcony. Once you get above 10, it doesn't matter. It doesn't really matter, right? But yes, apparently it was 17 floors up, which is terrifying. And she's also expected to testify about illicit drug use.
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The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
So that's why she needed the immunity because she would be basically...
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The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
I mean, for lack of a better word, yes, she'd be ratting on herself about using drugs that are illegal. So that is expected. But it's interesting. I asked you this, and it's part of the reason why Frank Piazza is up on the stand now speaking to the validity of that surveillance video. But it was testified so many times yesterday that...
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The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
Did he believe this was the only copy that he bought that $100,000 he gave was the only copy of that surveillance video, but clearly it was not. And was it explained then how the rest of the world saw that video, even though did he thought he had the only copy?
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The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
And he paid handsomely for it. He ended up giving $100,000, Eddie Garcia said to him, and he divvied that up. $50,000 for his boss, $20,000 for a co-worker. He took $30,000 for himself. He testified that Diddy made it very clear to him, don't spend the money all at once right away. He didn't want anything to seem untoward.
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The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
If someone suddenly has $30,000 cash to pay for something large, he was like, he was cautioning him not to draw attention.
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The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
That's what he did though.
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The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
So Eddie Garcia then testifies that that's exactly what he ended up doing, going and buying a new car.
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The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
That blows my mind. You're being bribed to sell off a piece of video that is basically criminal evidence because you know when you see what's on that tape, that is a criminal act. And he then felt comfortable enough to call his boss and say, hey, can we do Diddy Wright? Give him this video and he's going to pay us. And then his boss agreed. That's mind blowing to me.
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The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
And then I don't know how there was another person involved too, but three people knew about this video and were paid for it.
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The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
I wonder how they all slept at night after that.
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The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
Do you recall if this was 2016 or 2017? I'm trying to remember which year it was. But bottom line, this didn't come out until last year. Yes, yes. So this was all buried for at least six, seven, eight years?
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The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
It makes me feel like everybody has a price.
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The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
Like you said, Goodfellas, that's what it sounds like. And also, we mentioned this, but it's also just the threat of personal safety was involved as well. Not only were they paid handsomely, But he also took photos of all of their IDs and basically let them know, yes, I know who you are. I know where you live. I can come find you if any of this gets out.
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The Diddy Trial: A Brown Paper Bag and 100K
I'm fascinated by the fact that someone had that video on their cell phone for all those years. And technically, when Eddie Garcia told him, this is the only copy, this is the only key fob, basically. It was a... from the actual surveillance video.
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I guess that technically was true, but someone, I mean, I imagine how or why someone took a video of the video and then kept it on their cell phone all those years.
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And if that security video never came out. Would we be sitting, watching, observing this trial? Would Cassie have felt compelled or at least just backed up enough to file that lawsuit? When that video came out, that was total proof of everything she had endured or at least a version of it where people would start to believe what she had to say. So many people who have said things
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about Diddy didn't have any real proof. Now there's proof. Now there's physical, irrefutable proof that might've emboldened Cassie to go ahead and file her lawsuit.
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But the question is, does she know what existed? Like all of that. The timing was pretty close.
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So she knew that at least one person had seen the video and had had their hands on it. So I just wonder how much that may have played in her decision to file the lawsuit.
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Exactly. And I'm just curious which one, if there was any conversation beforehand. But interestingly, with Cassie having that conversation, Eddie Garcia testified that their real concern wasn't about the fact that they were covering something up or whether or not they were going to get paid. They were concerned that if Cassie decided to file a police report,
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Police would absolutely then come to the hotel and ask for surveillance footage. And if they saw that the footage was erased, deleted or destroyed, that might have put some legal questions towards them. And so he was just concerned, hey, I need to know that neither one of y'all, especially Cassie, is not going to go to the police after the fact.
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And then I'm going to get busted for having given you this video.
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Yes.
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Who the F*** Were We Working For?
Yeah, but for Diddy, if he's in trouble and he needs an NDA, what is that process? He emails this person and then a lawyer is involved. How would that possibly even work?
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Who the F*** Were We Working For?
So to wrap up here on Mia, who finished her cross-examination yesterday, and again, the defense went after her pretty tough. How effective, and again, I know you have your opinions about how they did it, but they only need one person on that jury to go, wait a second. So they really went after her credibility.
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And it's tough for us on the inside or the outside who've never gone through or had somebody go through this. being abused and what that does to you psychologically. But for a lot of folks to see that years after this rape and abuse happened, she's writing messages. I love you so much. I'll always be here for you. I love you with all my heart. I'm here for you forever. All of those things.
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Do you think still was it effective even if it was a little icky how he went after her?
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Wait, still during the trial? Aubrey, you've had those days?
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But what are we talking about potentially? How damaging could it be? This is a guy who knows about all the money.
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Aubrey, would you say when you first met him and started working with him, he was the guy that's being described in court, or he was still years away from developing into what is being described as a monster?
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Where are you leaning? I think I've asked you this a couple of times in the past couple of weeks, Aubrey, but here we are, fourth full week of testimony. Where are you leaning? How do you think the trial is going for the prosecution and for the defense?
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But if you did have her, what would you her name? She would be saved as what?
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Last thing for me over here is just, have you, um, Have you heard from people, and maybe not even people you work with, but unexpectedly, since this trial has been going on, reaching out to maybe ask you something or tell you something?
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Even if you don't want to get into specifics, which we encourage you to do so, but just in general, I'm just curious how maybe folks might be coming out of the woodworks.
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Oh my God, stop with the smoke. Don't bring us into your little smoke fights on the street.
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Who the F*** Were We Working For?
Thank you, please. All right, folks, we appreciate you all listening. As always, continue to keep an eye on this feed. We will continue to update as this trial goes on. Thanks so much for listening.
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No, you were right about the DNAs.
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Go ahead, Aubrey. Why is horrific your word after the last day and a half, I guess, we've seen of testimony? Why horrific?
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To that point, yeah, they said they ran over with this witness where they had to change the order of upcoming witnesses because they went over on this one. I want to go back. We're going to. to the one who testified after Mia. So I'm getting everybody caught up to those current times.
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So we're sitting here on Tuesday as we record this and the first witness up today, before the first witness even got up this morning, we had a disturbance. You read about this more than I did, but somebody had to be taken out of court.
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Thank God. The only thing I compare it to is the Amber Heard and Johnny Depp trial to where everybody publicly was kind of taking sides and it got really intense on social media. To hear about this outburst in court, what are you noticing? I know you keep your... Yeah, your finger kind of on the heartbeat of what's going on online. But what what are you seeing in terms of that?
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Does that type of outburst surprise you?
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And Aubrey, Eddie Garcia on the stand, the security guard from the hotel.
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Testified that Diddy brought in a hundred grand in a paper bag to give him and another security guard to be quiet and to give him that video of him beating Cassie. Is that in line? Did you ever see things like that? Is that something common or I guess just in line with what you knew about Diddy? All for a rhyme.
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Aubrey, who's his first call if he needs an NDA? It looks like almost they were ready on standby for an NDA.
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About Kid Cudi and What's To Come...
You know, what did you make of that? I don't look. He has his own style, his own thing. But I looked up and saw it and I'm not sure what it said to me. But what did it say to you? Leather motorcycle jacket, white smoking a cigarette going into this truck.
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Why did they give us some context? Cassie, in the middle of all of this relationship with Diddy, ends up going and dating Kid Cudi for a month. Can you give us any insights into what was going on at the time to why she ends up in a month-long relationship and then is right back with Diddy?
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What kind of impression does it give in the courtroom to the jury in particular for Cuddy to say that Cassie played him and Cassie played Diddy? She was very much a victim. No matter what you think about the case, guilty or not, but everybody saw her be a victim. But for him to come out and say she played him, how does that feel?
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But willing to pay. And the hotel, the hotel manager was on the stand on Thursday, La Meritage in Beverly Hills.
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These are your folks. La Meritage was the manager's name. From your experience, does a place like this, are they so happy, so willing to have that person in their establishment, to have their money that they're willing to put up with what they have to do every time he's there?
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In more significant amounts than $313? Much more.
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Even something as when we're talking about here, Kaplan, he said he was sent to Whole Foods to get a gallon of water. They didn't have the gallon, but they had two half gallons. He brought back two half gallons and did he threaten to fire him? It seems so ridiculous, but to me, but to you, does that story sound about right?
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I know we're just two weeks in, just wrapped two full weeks of testimony. I should say, just your assessment now of... Which way it might be leaning? I know it's a long way to go. And that's the reason we do a full trial and defense still has to go. But how things are going, is it leaning one way or another for you after two weeks?
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I put money on it.
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And we're going to continue that now after what was the last full day of testimony we saw was one of the most highly anticipated days because of one of the most highly anticipated witnesses.
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To your point that, yes, given what they're trying to build here as a criminal enterprise, does that hurt? Yes, this stuff happened, but did they actually prove that Diddy was behind it?
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Yeah, their argument there was once Kid Cudi got there.
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They weren't there.
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We can piece it all together. A hundred percent. All this stuff looks bad. But in the in the do you get concerned that from a legal standpoint, we end up all this looks bad. And yet surely he was involved in that. Like, yeah, we know he was. But did they prove the case?
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Amy and TJ presents Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy Trial. Hello, everybody. Welcome to Amy and TJ Presents. Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy trial. I'm TJ Holmes here alongside my partner, my friend, my co-host, Amy Robach. And we have Robes being gotten helped along the way in covering this trial and getting some insights from Aubrey, of course.
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Are they making too much of, and yes, it's a fun headline to a certain degree about Cuddy calling Diddy a supervillain, said he looked like a Marvel supervillain. That got headlines, but beyond just a headline and it maybe even being clickbait, how meaningful was that description in your opinion?
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Now, we didn't see it, but it was reported that by several folks, there were chuckles in the courtroom. I'm not sure how exactly Kid Cudi delivered the line, maybe said it in a kind of a comedic way, but I was surprised, and were you, to hear that people actually found that funny.
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Does the relationship between Diddy and Cuddy sound about right in terms of, from the outside, Diddy is this larger-than-life character, but so much of what Cuddy was talking about seemed like they were, he just saw him as a contemporary, right? We're fellows in this game. Did he, from what you know and from what you saw in Testimony,
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What was Cudi's level of comfort with, respect for, and maybe even fear of, if there was any, of Diddy, given they were fellow rappers, if you will?
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The Diddy Trial: Harassing the Witness
Singleness is not a waiting room. You are actually at the party right now.
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The Diddy Trial: Harassing the Witness
Singleness is not a waiting room. You are actually at the party right now.
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Inside the Freak Offs
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
And when I say to you guys that we need a systematic change in the music industry and one man's trial and potential convictions or not is not going to change anything is because I don't know what you guys feel about if what Suge Knight said is true and there is a money trail or other people that are aware of this and can confirm it.
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What do you guys feel about a music label, allegedly, picking up the responsibility of... Someone being so beaten that it got to a point where jail time was potentially being considered and the person allegedly involved could not even... pay the person off.
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And we know that there's been a whole lot of payments to a whole lot of people, according to a whole lot of civil lawsuits, 80, over 80 or around 80 to be exact so far, allegedly.
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For me, what it feels like is like, I don't know, you could potentially, I'm not saying that this was what was done, but I know when we had platinum albums and we're making people millions of dollars, that we were always told we weren't seeing any money because it was being recouped. That's a word that they love to use. Recoup, recoup, recoup. I'll never forget the word.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
It haunts me in my motherfucking sleep. But if you think about it, if you had to pay off a big chunk of money to somebody, you could just recoup it. Because at the time, if what Suge says is true and Interscope did make the payment, Interscope was also who was in charge of dirty money. They were the ones backing the project to my knowledge.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
So if a check was made, I'm not saying that this is what occurred, but I'm sure in the industry in general, they throw a lot of different things under that recoup name. You just keep hearing about the recoup. You never actually really see the check. So, you know, could somebody's beating have just been a recoup owed back by them from the artists that they, you know, represented? I don't know.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
This is all alleged. This is all just me, you know, opinions and us bantering back and forth about what these things could possibly mean that people have stated publicly that are in the industry. But I do remember our manager at one point, a man that I have a large amount of respect for, Johnny Wright, had a sit down with me at one point and he did say to me,
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you got to get this group together and like, you know, the pressure's on you. And I was like, why? We're all equal. We're all stars. We're all five choosing to not make anyone a lead. We had to go in and fight for that continuously, vocally on the tracks. And he was like, well, the audience and the fans have decided it's you. So whether you like that or not, it is what it is. And he said to me,
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
The most replaceable person in this situation is the artist. The managers, the CPAs, the agents, the publicists, the A&Rs, the record labels, they're all going to be there for the next 25 girl groups after you. And they were there for the 25 girl groups before you. The artist is the most replaceable part. And the sad thing that the fans don't understand is they loved us.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
They came and paid for the artists, for us. And we are the last to be paid, never were paid in most regards. And the bigger problem in all of that is we're the most replaceable. And even if you don't mess it all up, like they really tried hard to make it a Danity Kane inner turmoil that couldn't be controlled. And it was us that were to blame. You know, Diddy pointed me out specifically because...
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
In my opinion, now that I've seen more and understand more of what was going on during that time, it's likely that they needed my fan base to turn against me and to move on to a new project that he was moving one of my bandmates on to. Potentially, in my opinion, that could be something that was going on.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
But I know that in all of these situations, that when an artist is the most replaceable part... that there's something wrong with the music industry, the business. There's something wrong with that.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
And if you ever, you know, play with me, you'll end up dead. Threats of violence, threats of death. And one thing I will say in the music industry, especially in hip hop, a lot of people will threaten death. There's death talking about, you know, talked about a lot in music. And
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
Yeah, my experience was more humiliating. But yeah, a bunch of record labels saying they want me having me meet up at the Beverly Hills Hotel, asking me to dance, putting on track after track into a room full of like 40 people passing a blunt around. I remember dancing so hard at one point I knocked knocked a lamp off a table.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
I was trying my damnedest to they just I just remember I have nightmares in my head from the J-Lo song that they kept on repeat. If I when I hear it, I want to like I get I could be dead danger to myself when that song comes on.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
Oh God, I can't even, I don't even want to think about it. But the song that was put on, one of them in repeat was a J-Lo song. And I just like, after a few eight counts, it usually stops, but it just wasn't stopping. And then, you know, the person leaves the room, comes back in and is like, oh, we just got the call. Like you're, you're untouchable, but Hey, thanks for coming in.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
And me just being like mortified and humiliated. And I didn't understand even at the time it was like, a really big uh it was it was a comedy bit for them for me i thought that i failed and i was whipping my head around and doing spins so hard that i was knocking shit off of tables
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
No, he showed up at her apartment for the very first time. He had never gone there with a gun, pulled her in the car, made her sit on his lap with the gun. I don't know how she snuck a burner phone, but somehow she had a burner phone, was able to warn Cassie and Cuddy that they were in his house.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
Yeah, that's complicated to me. What you just said made my head recognize inconsistency. I didn't realize it was one or the other. I thought that she had testified to being forced into the car by a gunpoint.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
Not many people take that seriously enough to fall in line and do what's needed to be done for the person that's threatening them. A lot of people will challenge back or will, you know, either make a spectacle of it in order to sell records or they will, you know, whatever they choose to do. It's more of a artistic challenge. presentation than it is a fear.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
In that previous interview, was that was she talking specifically in regards to this night and this event? Or was it just an overall that night and that event?
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
Well, let me let me tell you one bit of grace that I give a lot of people. When this first happened, not one person thought that anything would change. Once the settlement went down within like 24 hours, it was gone. Everyone like had 24 hours where they were like, oh, my God, justice could be real.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
And then when it stopped, everyone sunk back and was like, I guess we are just going to still be living in the lie. And then when the investigators came, there was hope. Then people thought that, you know, everybody in the streets had word and talks to whoever they talked to. And it was rumored that the indictment would happen at a certain time and it wasn't happening.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
And then all of a sudden it happens. And then, you know, the raid happens, the indictment happens. During that, and then the Cassie video drops, the Cassie video drop allowed a lot of people to feel safer to come forward. But when I tell you that people were very scared, it was a real thing.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
If you knew anything about his behavior, if you had any proof of his behavior, if you were there or witnessed or was on the other end of any of his behavior from smaller to very, very large, we're learning. you were scared. I had people literally saying, oh, what is this? What was this bitch scared of? Blah, blah, blah.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
Well, watch the Netflix documentary and you'll be able to hear what I was scared of. But the periods of scared, TJ, I mean, I don't know how many pictures of license plates I have on my phone of cars outside my home that I had never seen for months.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
At one point, I literally got a knife out of my kitchen and walked outside my gate and just waved it in the air and went to every single car like, listen, you do not live on the street. You have been parked here with your phone up for the past two hours. Who the fuck are you and what is it that you want? Like the paranoia was seeping in.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
I would ask my boyfriend at the time, am I being a Karen or is this real? And then there was something that occurred that he called me about Praz from the Fugees. Praz called me at one point and he was like, you might be right to feel like you're in danger. I would go to a hotel for a second. He had inside, he had some type of information that I didn't know about.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
And that was the first time that I realized like, oh, okay, so, you know, Maybe I'm not doing the most. It was hard to tell. It was very scary. So when you asked me that, if I see a small thing, like I was trying to protect him, that could be at a state where you don't know what's really going to happen with this man. And then when he gets fully taken out, you now know, okay, I'm safe.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
Even when I spoke with Homeland Security, they told me, anything that you say in this interview, you'd have to say on the stand. And there's no we don't get a like edit. What you say is what it is. So if there's something you don't want to say, don't say it because there's no editing and there's no go backs. This is a one time thing. They don't give you any information. They give nobody.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
I mean, I asked them, was the story that happened with me true? They could not tell me anything. They made it clear they would never be able to tell me any of that. So when you're talking to them, there's still, even I still had a fear of naming certain people that were around during certain things.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
Because I thought if he doesn't get taken under and these people do get together, I could be in a lot of trouble, but for sure, I'd never work again.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
In these situations that are being testified to, this is direct fear. This is nobody understanding. This is a knowledge from a lot of people now that truly believed that he'd do exactly as he said he would, which tells me that even prior to me being there, that in the 90s,
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
Worse than anyone can ever imagine because I think she knows so much more and the scope of this is just where the scope of this is. But I also think... There's some part of her that that feels the way I do in the sense that, you know, you asked me the first day, TJ, where does the sympathy lay with this person? Not every day was bad.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
So and also a good day with him is a better day than you could have with anybody else in life. So it's hard to match the extremes of that man. And she's been tortured. Imagine if it's true what Suge has suggested happened and she was given enough potentially compensation to take care of herself and whatever occurred. You're still living in a world that idolizes a man.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
You still see his billboards every time. You get to hear him that he's now changed his name to Love. Do you know how disgusting that could be for so many of us? That's why I went on Masked Singer and said, this belongs to us now. For a man that you know is, oh, the Love Hearts went on.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
to know the evil ways of somebody, to see that and hear, if you know him and you still talk to people, to hear and know in the streets that behavior is still, allegedly still rolling on like usual, at least according to a lot of the civil suits, it appears that way, if, you know, allegedly. It would probably be a very hard thing to know that he just took over the one name that is a universal thing
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
feeling of goodness and warmth and joy and love. It's the best thing that you can have on this earth. And that motherfucking man named himself that legally. and took the signage and made it his. He is still, I was watching one of the court, the people that draw those awful pictures of all of them looking hectic.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
Yeah, I was watching her on an interview and she was saying that how much Diddy is really like playing it up in court. He's like blowing love hearts to the kids. He's chatting it up with his team. He's talking to interviewers as he's walking out to news sites as he's walking out.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
Like he's really starting to get, there are a lot of reports suggesting that he's giving more of a showmanship in the room lately. And like, I don't know if I had mentioned this to you guys, but, you know, coming forward and saying we're respectfully not going to cross Cassie's mom. That's not because they couldn't come up with something.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
There has to have been a lot of information that a lot of people were aware of in regards to how dangerous this human could be potentially. Because the threats of being taken out seem to have been very serious to all of these people. They didn't bat an eye and they didn't think it was false bravado.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
That's definitely a move because they feel like maybe they got somebody, at least one in that jury that is potentially in their favor and all they need is one. And a move like that could really make the man be seen as, wow, he wouldn't even go after someone's mom. That's a really nice thing to do. And wow, look at his mom sitting behind him and all his kids are there.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
A lot of people sure do love this man. And these are a lot of horrific things we're hearing. It could confuse somebody. And these details are horrific. These details are very much aligning with the charges that he has been charged with, frankly.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
Yet this understanding of whether he really is good or really is bad is what I think the both prosecution that needs to probably do a little bit less of and more of the proof of the coercion and the force and the racketeering stuff, which they're doing. And then I think the defense is really going to probably rest on more of the poking holes and You really like this guy.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
He was a drug addict, and he had bad phases. But really, that lovable side, which I told you, there is that check-in with that man. He is a human. That check-in could confuse one person, and it's eight men and four women. And no disrespect to you, TJ, but men get it wrong a lot. A lot.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
Yeah, if he wasn't for real, people would have just laughed it off. Nobody would have been buying burner phones. Nobody would have been hiding out, not saying certain things around him, not upsetting him. I mean, one thing that stood out to me, and it won't make sense until the Netflix documentary comes out, but there was something they said in her exchange about how
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
Capricorn and Lauren London were in the kitchen talking about why they don't have a man. And Diddy tells Cassie to go into wherever he was and he displays in front of these women to Cassie. He says, stand up, sit down, turn to the left, turn to the right, go look this way, look that way, whatever the commands were. And then he looked over at them and said, that's why you don't have a man.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
Capricorn was very interesting because there was always this dynamic of, you know, she there felt like there was a competitive dynamic, like as if there were if there were certain people that she liked. felt were in her way or whatever they're, they're felt in my opinion, this like, uh, you know, just the dislike. So I didn't, I was never on the winning side of that.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
And there are things that there are actual pieces of proof that suggest that that is very much the way in which the expectations for females to behave was. And I don't think you were kept around for long if you wanted to act differently.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
Well, here's a bigger picture thought, because that is a hard one to lay into. Does it matter if somebody... wanted to be with someone rich and powerful and wanted to be with somebody at the top in regards to any of these charges. No. what type of aspirational woman she was, what she valued or what she wanted in a boyfriend. And it could have just been a joke.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
But either way, if it wasn't a joke and she did have an aspiration of being with the biggest and the best, which frankly, a lot of people do. Look at you. You got TJ, TJ, you got Amy, biggest and best. Somebody fought for it. Other people fight for it at different levels. To me, it's neither here nor there. It doesn't have anything to do with
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
kidnapping with weapons, robbery, home invasion, and car bombing, and continuous amounts of, I mean, he locked Capricorn up in a, what was it, a construction building for like five days when jewelry went missing. That's not a normal thing for a boss to do when jewelry's misplaced.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
I mean, let's be real now. Lie detector tests aren't even admissible in court. Who would even do something like that? I don't think that that had anything to do with her finally getting it right. I think it had to do with look at the degrees in which I will go to make sure that, you know, to never cross me. It's coercion.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
Unfortunately, maybe she thought that there was something with me and Diddy or whatever, but I didn't ever get to see the winning sides. There were some times where I got to see like good, good aspects of her personality, but I did notice even in the testimony that She was saying how there were moments where she felt like pushed out by Cassie and even had moments where she disliked her.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
So let me say two things about that. My first one being there have been plenty of things that have shown she was not complicit in everything. So that's a wash right there.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
Second thing I would say is as you were talking, it was bringing all these thoughts up in regards to, there were a lot of things said to people that are still acting like they want to stay far away from this trial that know a good about, about what was happening and you know who you are. Um,
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
And there was very specific attempts at trying to divide us just as Danity Kane, let alone the women that dated. I mean, it sounds like there was division that was being constantly woven between Kim and Cassie. I would witness during making the band, whenever Kim came to watch us, Cassie was drug out.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
Whether she wanted to be there or not, she was taken out and put in the stairwell or the hallway or whatever. Kim wasn't going to be in a room with her, and Kim came first. And then when you see Capricorn saying, Cassie got rid of me, Cassie got in there, and she felt mad about Cassie doing that and thought Cassie would get rid of her.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
It seems like instead of women joining together, which is what we're seeing now, right? Potentially a lot of women, whether they liked each other or not, taking the stand and telling their story with a lot of bravery, right? And their stories seem pretty consistent. And they're not allowed to talk with each other or to come up with anything.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
You're not allowed to speak to another victim when you have been approached by Homeland Security. So at that point, you're seeing all these women now with so much bravery coming forward and talking about all their experiences. And they're all kind of the same. And they also are saying there was jealousy amongst them.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
But I don't know that it's necessarily a woman's state in a healthy environment to just dislike all the women around. Usually we learn ourselves through the mirror of the men that are looking at us. And if you're being mirrored back by the men that were around when I was there, I feel very worried about what you may think you are or what you may think you have to be in order to be appreciated.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
But it definitely wasn't best friends with the girl sitting across from you. Divide and conquer was a very good strategy that was used over there. And in my opinion, and it obviously worked well. However, now that we're in a federal trial and there's plenty of people that established they're not friends anymore. They were jealous of each other. They didn't like each other.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
But the patterns of abuse, coercion, force, these extreme situations that everybody is discussing, some people even are still going up there liking him. But they still saw all the stuff happening. There's enough employees involved. There's enough people that were setting things up. There's enough people helping possess people across state lines.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
There's enough things going on where a lot of these charges are being really established right now.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
Then the new her after her would have been KK. So let's see if KK takes the stand because KK would be probably just as shocking. Now, I don't know if she stays on Diddy's side or not, but in some of the civil suits, some things are alleged that are criminal behavior. So if she's looking for immunity, she might want to get on that stand, allegedly.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
Then there's moments where she brought her back in. But on an overall understanding of Capricorn, I was thinking that way more was going to be told. She definitely, in my opinion, kept some things in possibly because they don't pertain or possibly because of other situations legally involved.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
So to basically summarize the online exchange between Q and Dawn, Q posted over the weekend. His post was meant to clarify the things he told us on the podcast last week and the things that he's been saying for a long time. After that, Dawn posted in response to Q's post denying she had anything to do with his allegations. Then Q responded to her post claiming that there was video evidence.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
Once he posted the fact that he had receipts, Dawn then took her post down. So... Because of that interview, all of that occurred over the weekend. And then Dawn took down her post. So I don't know, guys, what do you think about that? What do you think specifically about the behavior of making a statement and then retracting it or there being video proof? So what do you guys think about that?
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
TJ, let me just cut in right there. Allegedly, it is. We need a cultural reshift. This is a sick, sick situation. When you have people that have dreams, and music is different than other professions in the sense that when you guys went to show up for your job every day, you were in very corporate settings with very professional people. In these settings, you're in the studio till 3 a.m.,
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
If a producer wants to smoke weed in the room, you got to run to the stairwell to breathe if you don't want to get high because you don't like that because they get to do what they want to do. They're recording the song. It's their track. It's their life. The boundaries are almost non-existent.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
There's no oversight. I mean, I never met anyone from HR at Bad Boy. But there's no oversight. The boundaries are just completely gone. And there needs to be a lot of checks and balances. And... accountability. There are so many people like, listen, MTV and Viacom can't probably come forward and say, hey, we are so sorry.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
We had a show on that aired for almost a decade with three different bands and every single person, there's a person in every single band that has a horrific situation and is suing or wants an apology, whatever it is. And we're so sorry. We didn't know whatever it is. It would have felt good to hear. They haven't even done that.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
They likely can't legally because it will imply them and their names are listed in the lawsuits of the people that are suing from the band era. But yeah, accountability would go a long way. When I see their back and forth, the only thing that just stood out to me is when you make a bold statement and then you delete it, it's not a good look, in my opinion.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
Have you guys ever made a statement about a serious matter that you were in and then deleted it?
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
Actually, soon there's going to be an episode dropping where I talk to Dr. Hillary Goldsher and we had an incredible conversation about why women stay and the psychology behind these abusive settings and how victims almost become paralyzed in them.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
I think there's that balance. I think she, you know, she did state in her testimony, she would know best, right? She stated in her testimony that she felt protective over him, that if she wasn't around, that he could get himself into trouble, that she would like basically handle all the ins and outs of all the things that were going on.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
And a lot of those things apparently could lead to a lot of trouble for people or for Puff. And so she was like, she took her
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
responsibility of protecting him very seriously and coming from death row, which, you know, infamously in the nineties, the two West and East battles were death row and bad boy coming from death row, moving over to bad boy and having a fierce protection and loyalty to Diddy is there's a lot to unpack there. This is a human that knows a lot of things and
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
And I believe that with what she established, I mean, there are a lot of parts of the story. She talked about being abused by him. That's another person now. She's part of an enterprise of people. There was somebody with her inside of his home. They established even when Diddy and the other person went inside Cuddy's home and she was left in the car that she called Cassie from a burner phone.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
I don't carry around burner phones. Do you? I mean, you got to be you got to be into some serious stuff if you're if you've got a pocket full of burner phones just in case. I mean, I've never even walked by a burner phone and thought of purchasing it. So, like, you know, the fact that there was just a burner phone ready and she had to sit on his lap. with the gun pointed out at her.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
I don't understand the sitting on the lap part. I don't know exactly what it all says, but I know it says force and I know it says coercion. And I know that a lot of people felt like they were very unsafe and they weren't willing to challenge that. And they definitely didn't think that he was just on one and doing the most. I think they feel like their lives genuinely would be in danger.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
It seems over and over again that we're establishing that now with multiple people in the enterprise. Now, if you pay attention in regards to the Rico charge racketeering, if you pay attention to what happened to Keith in that NXIVM trial, They were able to establish sex trafficking off of a smaller group of people in a smaller scope.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
Just a handful of people that basically worked with him in order to achieve the things that he instructed them to do that were criminal. And next, the guy from NXIVM is in prison. So... I think they're getting right about there with reaching the bar on sex trafficking. Definitely have the possessing people across state lines. If we're getting into racketeering...
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
Things like this, like we're talking about kidnapping, we're talking about explosives, we've now tied everything to everyone. And there are more people that are being named in every testimony. And it kind of seems like the trajectory of what the prosecution is establishing is, here's a name, might not mean anything to you right now, but it will when we come back next week.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
Because then we see that person taking the stand and filling in all of the holes of the picture.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
I kind of always said this in different ways. There are things about Diddy that are all-encompassing. And for some people, when he's proud of you, you almost feel... You know, I talked with a psychologist about that on our podcast. And she said to me, in your childhood or in general, if you have any type of abandonment or self-confidence...
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
issues, different levels growing up, that when you get in front of somebody like that, they can really grab a hold of you. And the second that you are abused, traumatized, or put in a very scary, fearful situation, your body almost clings up and goes into shock. And the only way you ever get that relief is when they come back to you and they want you again.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
then you feel like you've got your life back. If they're doing things like holding your home, your car, your bank accounts, your laptops, et cetera, I mean, Capricorn talked about she had a life and an entire established career, and then she didn't. And Capricorn was known... Around the time I was there, she was a bad bitch. She was running the streets. She was respected everywhere.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
She could go around and do whatever she wanted to do. She knew every I mean, I was I was intimidated by her. Like, let me not piss her off because her attitude is real poignant when she doesn't like you. And when she does like you, it seems like she looks out for you. But she was friends with Kim Porter.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
She even wrote in the comment that we read in an episode prior that Kim Porter was the only one that stayed a real one to the very end. I mean, that's an important piece of all of this as everything starts to come full circle.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
There were, at that point, the gatekeepers that I saw, besides his big old... Besides all of the men that were... part of the establishment, some who I can personally say one sexually assaulted me, one sexually assaulted potentially allegedly one of my band members. There was a lot of things going on with the men over there.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
As far as the women go, I was always, we were always around Capricorn and a woman named Francesca Sparrow who was found, I believe, dead. And that was I don't know how long of a period after of suing Diddy and Bad Boy for a significant amount of money. And then, you know, when Capricorn got out and Fran was out, seems like KK came in.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
And if you do a little research on some of the civil suits and some of the claims being made on the type of things that KK allegedly could have been involved in, it sounds like he kind of always had somebody in that role that maybe understood...
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
on a deeper level how and here's the thing hurt people hurt people right I had moments where I saw things I can't speak about them because I Netflix has the exclusivity on them but there were times where I witnessed things that showed a human in pain suffering a little bit in my opinion So if she saw things like that often, then she might have felt a fierce loyalty to him.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
And also, it's a commonly known thing that Black women just naturally protect Black men. They are just so... historically have been so disenfranchised by the system, so attacked and brutalized by the system that there's just a different type of loyalty that exists in the community than I would necessarily even understand.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
Her story and what she went through is horrific. Her desire to please Diddy and to be great at her job is exactly as she stated it. From morning until the next morning at 4 a.m., she would work nonstop. Food, water, and your overall mental health was not really ever considered over in that area.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
And so I think that there probably is many things at play when it comes to loving somebody and wanting to protect them from themselves and then also hating them so much for how much they never really gave a fuck about you and how much you sacrificed for them. I think maybe those were those tears come from. Also, I don't know that...
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
Also, I don't know how much of her story was able to be told on the stand. But when you get to all of the parts of the story, there were some personal things that were probably very devastating and horrific for her to have experienced. And that could potentially also be where the tears are coming from.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
somebody else made this statement, it wouldn't have been coming from any of us in the room. I can just Google quickly an article online. And we all know we have our battles with these articles online. But Suge Knight, who is... Has also been around all of these people for a very long time. Also is familiar with Capricorn as she worked at Death Row prior to going to Bad Boy.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
He stated that Diddy beat the shit out of that bitch is what the title of the article is. Suge on his podcast, Collect Call with Suge Knight, that he does from prison, talks about why Puffy done what Puffy did or what Puffy do is not a surprise. Everyone knows what it is. I mean, you got to be able... to that type of shit to a woman and to other women, but it's not like it's news.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
So basically kind of establishing that everyone knows he was doing this to people all the way back then. Same time he beat the shit out of motherfucking Cassie. This is a quote, not my language. He had an assistant by the name of Capricorn, he continued. He felt Cap was keeping this shit on the low about if she was messing with Cudi or not. Puff beat the shit out of that bitch.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
Not only did he beat the shit out of her, it was an Interscope person, an Interscope check that paid her to settle so he wouldn't go to jail.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
It seems like there came a point where... She couldn't take it anymore. I'm not exactly sure what incident that was, but it sounds like it was so bad that not even Bad Boy or Diddy could put their name anywhere near the check that paid her off, allegedly.
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Capricorn Clark...It's Complicated
And so it's not like there was any professional setting or professional graces given to the employees there. And she established many things from kidnapping that's going to be playing into the Rico charge. There's violence, weapons, break in, kidnapping, even the rituals of her day one coming from death row. coming from Suge, moving over there. Day one was like Central Park.
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The Diddy Trial: The Detectives and The Stylist
Yes. If it breaks open, then the fuel, whatever it is, spreads and there's a huge fire. They said that, honestly, the car was so close to his home that if they had done it correctly, not only would his car have blown up, but his house most likely would have caught fire as well. And I thought it was also interesting when they described what the Molotov cocktail looked like.
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It was an old English bottle, gasoline and a designer handkerchief, a silk designer handkerchief.
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Obviously, obviously. Who's going to throw away or blow up a designer handkerchief? You know how much those things cost?
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I have never had, I didn't even know it was referred to as O-E.
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Do you think he was honestly with that almost leaving a signature OE with a designer handkerchief? It's like, F you love Diddy. Oh my God. Like, I feel like that's what that said.
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Maybe this is total conjecture and my just uninformed opinion.
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I'm going to say it, but maybe he didn't want the whole car to blow up. Maybe he wanted it to be a warning and he wanted it to know that that was from him based on how he wanted the evidence of the Molotov cocktail to stay intact so that Cuddy would know it was him.
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Yes. One news outlet referred to him as cheeky, which I think was appropriate. But yes, he was asked if he was going to sue Diddy. And he said, no, I'm focused on getting out of here as an out of court. He didn't want to be there. And it was very clear. And by that, with so many of these witnesses who have been compelled to testify, you can tell that they're not there for revenge.
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They're not there to see Diddy go down. They're there almost against their will.
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It was so awful and they don't want to return to it. And I'm imagining a lot of them don't want to remember it. But Deontay Nash did recall so many memories of personally witnessing Cassie being kicked, hit, dragged by the hair. And the one instance that he described was just so awful. She was asleep. on the couch, and he was in the hotel room with her. Apparently, she wasn't answering her phone.
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It made him so angry. When he rushed into the hotel room, he immediately just started, according to Deontay Nash, just beating her. She ended up with a gash on her head so deep from hitting the headboard, from being hit That he wanted to call 911, he said, but that is when Diddy said, no, I'll just take her to my personal plastic surgeon. And he saw her the next day with stitches on her head.
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It makes you feel sick to your stomach, doesn't it?
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And the sad thing is the people who were seeing Testify did know. And for whatever reason, they didn't do anything about it. This one, this really stood out to me, what Deontay testified to. He said that moment where she got the gash on her head and he said there was blood everywhere. Obviously, heads bleed a lot. And what did he say when that happened? He looked at Deontay Nash
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and Cassie and said, look what y'all made me do. Is that not a classic line of an abuser? Look what you made me do. Taking zero responsibility and blaming the victim and blaming the people who loved her. That is horrific.
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That's scary.
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And another thing that was just so heartbreaking, and we've used that word so much when talking about the testimony that we've been hearing in this trial, but when Deontay talked about how did he forced him to take him to the hotel where Cassie was hiding from him.
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You're dropping someone off in the middle of a massive busy road and just say, figure it out. But you're safer here than you are with me or anywhere near him.
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He looked in the oven. Like closets too, but okay, I can understand why he would look in a closet. But like the fact that you're searching for someone who is clearly hiding from you is sad and scary all in one. But yeah, he looked in the oven.
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Oh, it's hard to even repeat what she did. But when he gets up, when Deontay gets up into the hotel room and he's supposed to bring her back down to Diddy waiting in the car, he said that, She was in the balcony. She was walking towards it, and she said she wanted to go over the balcony, and he was sure she was going to harm herself.
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She was going to jump off the balcony of that hotel room rather than go back downstairs with him and get in the car with Diddy.
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Well, you wouldn't get to that place or have those thoughts unless you were searching for relief. And that sounded better, death sounded better than dealing with the hell she was living in. And that is just... awful and horrific. And it's just one of the saddest things I've ever heard.
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You can try to put yourself in her position and imagine how hopeless and how trapped you must feel to think that was the only way out. And a lot of this, and this is what Deontay testified to as well, is So much of this was about blackmail because people say, just leave. People say, but Diddy, he heard Diddy threaten to release those explicit videos of her during freak offs.
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And it wasn't just about even releasing it to the public. He specifically told her the first place, this is according to Deontay, that Diddy would send those explicit videos to would be the places where her parents worked to make sure her parents were fired and humiliated.
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That's so personal. That's so scary. And you can see where you would feel like I'll do anything to make sure that doesn't happen.
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It was so evil. It sounds evil is what it sounds. And you know what, Deontay also, this is part of what the prosecution's case was. And he certainly testified into proving this, that Cassie didn't want, and he heard and witnessed Cassie not wanting to participate in the freak-offs. She was at her own birthday party.
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And instead of going out karaoke-ing with her friends, he personally saw her being pushed, forced, coerced, whatever you want to use, to come with Diddy instead to a freak-off. And she told him she didn't want to go. She told Deontay she didn't want to go. So he personally witnessed her
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trying to refuse these freak offs and ultimately feeling as though for whatever reason, whether it was the threat of the tapes or the threat of violence, she would eventually just say yes.
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That's right. So, yes, we are following up on all the testimony, what happened with a very full day in court yesterday, which was Wednesday. And so you don't have to click and try to read and piece it all together. It's all here for you, along with our take on what is happening inside that courtroom just a few blocks away. from where we are sitting right now.
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Yes. NBC News is reporting that Cassie Ventura Fine and her husband Alex are now proud parents to a little boy. And that's super sweet because they already have two daughters, Frankie, who is five, and Sunny, who is four. I love those names. We don't have the name yet of the boy, but it is confirmed that she gave birth to a healthy baby boy. And that's pretty remarkable.
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when you think about where she was just a week and a half ago on that witness stand and the fact that she was able to emotionally and frankly, physically handle reliving what seems like an unthinkable hellscape to any one of us in front of the world. The world is listening.
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Absolutely. You're not supposed to fly even after eight months. You're not supposed to do anything strenuous after eight months, physically or emotionally. You're supposed to... stay pampered and peaceful as much as you can for the health of yourself and the health of your baby.
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So that, to me, that was a Herculean effort and remarkable that she was on that witness stand for as long as she was talking about what she was talking about.
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But yes, yesterday was, uh, another big day of testimony where we heard from two law enforcement officials, uh, one with the fire department talking about, um, some of the issues with Diddy and kid Cuddy. And then we, the big, big, big witness on the stand was, uh, Cassie Ventura finds personal stylist and now her friend, uh,
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It was a powerful moment. I appreciated it as well. And by the way, Nash is actually on the stand right now, as we are recording this, he is going to finish up his testimony. And then we are expecting later today, Mia, that is what she's being called, but she is also known as victim number four. She is going to remain anonymous, but it appears she is a, another employee of, who witnessed a lot.
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And I believe she was in that hotel room with Deontay Nash when that big gash happened and all that blood was everywhere. So we are going to hear a lot more from Mia. And we will, of course, keep you updated on all of that in tomorrow's episode.
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Deontay Nash, and he had a lot to say about what he witnessed and how he feels about both Cassie and Sean Diddy Combs.
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That's right. He says he personally saw a black Escalade take off once he pulled up and then come back around. He ran the plates and yep, that black Escalade was registered to bad boy, which is of course, Sean Diddy Combs. company.
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And so that was a big piece of evidence that clearly puts at least a representative of Diddy, if not Diddy himself, there at the time around when Kid Cudi said his home was vandalized.
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But he ran the plates. Exactly. So that's really not up for dispute if you've got an officer of the law running the plates of this black Escalade that pretty much
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So much of it seems like a movie script. So much of it, even those near misses or those missed opportunities that allowed this to continue for years and years and years, all feels like a movie script. Like almost, almost, almost, and yet not until the very end. Not until Cassie filed her lawsuit did any of this come to light.
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Yes. Oh my gosh, so close, so close. Yeah, but we're hearing it all play out in court. And it really is as riveting as a movie script and as devastating. And it is a horror movie, truly. I mean, it really is. It feels like a horror movie. And it was life for so many people who were in this inner circle of Sean Diddy Combs, according to their testimony.
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Yes, they said it implied that Diddy had so much reach and so much power that he was able to somehow have those fingerprints destroyed. But there were partial fingerprints. And of course, we should mention the judge said, no, that did nothing. They did this outside of the juror's attention. They had a sidebar. And the judge said, no.
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This is not in any way incriminating your client and the jury has not been tainted and we're going to proceed. And so the testimony continued. And I thought it was really interesting when Detective Jimenez talked about that the fingerprints, the partial fingerprints, I think they were able to say it was for a woman, for a female person. We know that Capricorn Clark was there.
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So then, of course, Diddy's defense team went really full tilt on that one and tried to lean in on the fact that the fingerprints were possibly female, not male.
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That part of his testimony blew me away, that here is a detective with the law trying to figure out why Kid Cudi's car blew up with a, he said, a poorly constructed Molotov cocktail. And... We know now that we heard Cassie Ventura testify that Sean Diddy Combs threatened to blow up Kid Cudi's car. And then sure enough, a short time later, Kid Cudi's car blows up.
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So we only hear this after the fact. But yes, when this fire investigator is trying to figure out how this happened, no one would talk to him to the point where he said Capricorn's brother finally answered her phone and said, leave her alone. It was very clear that no one who actually knew what happened
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had any intention of talking about what happened, incriminating Diddy in any way, and as you point out, fearful to do so, to even take an officer's phone call. They wouldn't even answer the phone. That speaks volumes.
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Also of note, I wanted to bring this up because yesterday's podcast, I actually was wondering who recorded that surveillance video. We were talking about how the surveillance video that was so much a part of yesterday's testimony, how it was released, how it got out. If Eddie Garcia, the security guard, gave Diddy the only copy in that USB card of the video, who recorded it on their cell phone?
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You were saying that was what happened. Someone recorded it from their cell phone. Well, we found out who it was. It was another security guard. And the reason was kind of crazy.
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It really is. We were talking about it yesterday because when that came out that that was the reason he said, you know, here's the deal. I saw it and I wanted to tell my wife about it, but I knew if I told my wife what I saw, she wouldn't believe me. So I had to have evidence, proof for her to believe me that I just saw Sean Diddy Combs beating up his then-girlfriend, Cassie Ventura, fine.
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And that is the only reason. It wasn't for money. It wasn't for protection or insurance, which is what we were possibly thinking it was. It was simply to say, look what happened. It was voyeurism. And yes, nothing was done about a crime that clearly they both witnessed watching, and he was so excited to show his wife what he saw. It makes you feel a little sick to your stomach.
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And again, not trying to judge anyone, but it's just... All of the people who dropped the ball or made an excuse or had an ulterior motive or even maybe just the worst part of you just came out and you thought, wow, this is cool or fun.
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And people, you know, we all get caught up in it with clickbait, watching other people suffer, watching unspeakable acts and not recognizing the human toll and the human cost and what our responsibility is.
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it is as human beings to report it to acknowledge it to do something about it but not just to sit back and either laugh at it or gawk at it and i think that was just for whatever reason that stood out so much to me yesterday and again not to throw a stone because all of us are guilty of it in some way shape or form If we're watching, you know, it's like watching a train wreck.
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People say they use that phrase all the time. But this was just such an egregious example of it. It just stood out and made it like there's so many moments in this trial, sadly, where you just feel sick to your stomach and think about how let down so many of these women were by the people who were either closest to them or the people who had direct knowledge of what was happening.
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Babe, I just got chills. I hadn't even thought about that as a defense tactic. And that makes me even feel worse. I mean, we've talked about this as journalists covering all of these school shootings, that at a certain point, people do get desensitized. Oh, how many kids died? How many people died? And then that makes it more important or less important.
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Not a big deal.
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And you know what we say every time we cover anything like a school shooting or anything that seems to be repeated or happening over years where people turned a blind eye or got desensitized to it. We keep saying this time people will wake up. This time people will act differently.
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This time people will change how they feel and react and really take note of these moments and say, I'm going to do better. I'm going to be better next time.
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And so I'm hopeful, I'll always try to remain hopeful that seeing and hearing what's happening in that courtroom and seeing witness after witness say basically the same thing and hearing from a witness saying that Sean Diddy Combs himself called himself the devil,
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You know, I hope that there will be changes and people will feel empowered to speak up and to speak out, to know that there can be justice, but it can't happen unless people come forward. It can't happen unless you do the hard thing and the right thing. And instead of acting out of fear, you act out of love. And that's a really hard thing to do. And it's a really hard... switch to flip sometimes.
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But that is my takeaway. And I hope as we continue to watch this trial, that can be more people's takeaways.
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Listen to Amy and TJ presents Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy trial on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome, everyone, to Amy and TJ. It is Thursday, June 5th, and the Diddy Trial is about to get underway once again. This is the fourth full week of testimony.
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I'm Amy Robach, along with my partner, TJ Holmes, starting a little later this morning than typical mornings. Testimony doesn't begin until 11 a.m., but they will begin with wrapping up that cross-examination of Brianna Bungelen, and she certainly had a lot to say yesterday.
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We don't know. There were some procedural issues, but they said they were starting late. And interestingly enough, the prosecution is concerned about being behind schedule right now for their big star witness that may take the stand later today. Jane is the pseudonym she's using, but apparently she has to catch an international flight a week from today.
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And they're worried that all these delays and even starting later today might cause some problems for her and that flight.
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Yeah, she says that Diddy bangled her off that 17-floor balcony. It was Cassie's L.A. apartment. And she testified to jurors in direct testimony and in cross-examination that she still does not know why it happened or what he meant when he said, as she said he was dangling her over that balcony, you know what the F you did. She said that Diddy was saying this repeatedly, yelling that at her.
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And to this day, she doesn't know what he meant by it, but she said she was shaking. She was so scared. And when he finally, for those, she said 10 to 15 seconds, she was dangling over that balcony. He finished it by throwing her against the patio furniture. She says she sustained injuries from that throw.
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And she says she still suffers, wakes up screaming and is haunted by that moment, those 15 seconds where she said she felt like she might die.
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That's right. And she admitted on the stand that she had been using cocaine. In fact, she talked a lot about the drug use that she did with Cassie Ventura Fine and with Diddy himself. She mentioned that they repeatedly and often use marijuana, cocaine, ketamine, ecstasy, GHB. It was a long list of drugs. And she said, look, we all had a problem.
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Interestingly enough, she actually wanted to make a distinction because this was something they also tried to poke holes at. She said the prosecution, or at least the investigators, got it wrong. They conflated two events. There was the event, she says, that happened at Cassie Ventura's apartment where she says Diddy dangled her over that balcony.
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But she said previously, earlier in that year, in 2016... She was on a photo shoot with Cassie Ventura Fine, and she said Diddy came up to her, got right in her face, and said, I'm the devil, and I could kill you. She says that she doesn't know what prompted it, but that that happened, that she was terrified, and even though... That all occurred, she claims. She still continued to see Sean Combs.
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She still continued to see Cassie Ventura. She still continued to put herself in their world and around them. And that's what defense attorneys were also trying to come at her. Similar to what they did with Mia, why would you keep coming back? Why would you stay in the same vicinity with someone who basically said that they were the devil and could possibly kill you?
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And she just really didn't have a good answer for that.
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Yeah, she actually, her testimony was delayed a little bit yesterday because she had to wait for the judge to give her that immunity order. And surely when she started testifying, you could understand why. And she did say that Cassie Ventura Fine did put that incident, of course, in her lawsuit. She just wasn't allowed to name her. And so now you're right.
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This is the first time we were actually attaching a name to that incident that we've heard so much about. So when she takes the stand, actually momentarily, defense attorneys say they still have anywhere from 45 minutes to an hour left to cross-examine her. So they're still not done.
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We don't know what else they want to try and say or do to discredit her, but she's back up in the stand and she'll be there for a little while. And because this is taking longer than expected, we were initially expecting Enrique Santos to take the stand after Breonna Bonglen is done today. He was due to make an appearance to basically set up the testimony, right?
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for this Jane Doe character we've heard so much, the third and potentially final alleged victim of Sean Combs. Jane Doe is or was, excuse me, a girlfriend of Sean Diddy Combs, and she, we believe, was a part of all of these freak-offs, and she certainly says that she too was abused. So, so much anticipation about what she's going to say, but...
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Unclear what Enrico Santos was going to be able to add to this or at least set her up. We were told that perhaps he might be able to explain some texts that the jury's about to see that might shed some light into how you take Jane Doe's testimony. But we don't know now.
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The prosecution's saying it's going so late and they're so concerned about Jane Doe's timeline that they don't know if they can afford to put Enrico Santos up on the witness stand. So that's to be TBD.
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Yeah, the judge actually even said late yesterday, I don't know that the jurors were loving this because they'd been wrapping up around 3 p.m. Eastern time each day. The judge suggested that perhaps they could have the jury start to stay later on the days when Jane Doe is testifying, when she's on the stand. But he said that the latest they could probably delay it to was 4 p.m.
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tomorrow because of a scheduling issue. But we may see longer days starting next week. And this is actually of note. If Jane Doe actually takes the stand today, TJ, and begins her testimony, they're worried about her catching a flight a week from today. That's hard to imagine that they think she might be on the stand for that many days.
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That seems wild to me because the most we've seen, how long did Cassie testify for?
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And that was they were on a strict deadline and timeline with her because she was literally about to give birth. So they were sensitive to her medical condition and tried to speed things up. But that seems wild to me that there was any concern on and maybe they're just posturing.
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I don't know that the prosecution was concerned that somehow that would be an issue for her to catch this flight next Thursday. But we shall see about that.
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Making the Band's Que (Part 2)
You know what's interesting? I ran into somebody during the AIDS walk and they said to me, you said it all along, but you weren't the person we wanted to hear it from. And as I'm hearing your discussion that you guys are having, I'm thinking to myself, it wasn't just I wasn't the one they wanted to hear it from. They weren't trying to hear it from any of us.
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My gut dropped to the ground.
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It's kind of like... I noticed that when you were talking today. It's not the same cue that I meant.
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Making the Band's Que (Part 2)
But what you said, how you went back to like a kid level. No, seriously.
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It took so many people along the way to have these types of interviews that you're discussing to finally culminate in some way. I still wonder systematically what the energy is in that department that took. that potentially have has a role in this, because I don't even I don't know how much anyone cared about any of us.
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Making the Band's Que (Part 2)
There aren't a lot of platforms where people can just go and release because you fear what they're gonna do with it because the platforms aren't truly for you, they're for themselves. That's why I wanted to be here and do this because this right here is for anybody
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and everybody we're also covering the trial we also have an inside perspective so so it's just there's got to be a place because you get so bottled up that you could you can tell just by Q's mom she's like bubbling over wanting wanting everybody to understand and know things and that almost becomes an unlivable state when you're dealing with a person that's an icon figure in the
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Making the Band's Que (Part 2)
And if you could even see it back in an interview, then I've been saying it for 20 years. Who what kind of person needed to say it in order for everybody to listen?
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Making the Band's Que (Part 2)
It was a bit after that. But yeah.
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And I'm saying you don't know what that she could have been working with the feds. She could have been helping build a case. We don't know. Or she could be something else. We don't know.
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I'm noticing this cultural obsession with just being disgusted by him and wanting him to go down. They want him under the jail. I'm noticing just within the press that I experienced on a very lower scale just this past week, I was so loved when I was going to testify.
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Then if I'm doing a podcast or there were headlines that I potentially was supporting him or whatever, the narrative was being put out there. But either way, what I notice is like there's this like uproar of people just disgusted with the testimony and really just wanting to see him go down. And I I just want to I just really didn't.
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I'm seeing that without even listening to reason and following everybody's testimony and the law and everything else, it just feels like it's been decided. And I know how I personally feel, but also coming from a parent that's a lawyer and wanting to go to law school myself and having an obsession, a love language with the law, I want to see justice legally occur.
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I don't want it to feel like it's an emotional choice. And I don't know how a juror takes emotion out of it at this point, because just hearing the details of one person's story eliminates the ability for that, in my opinion.
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um now you've now you've heard you know i i haven't fully i can't fully talk about mine but now that you guys up close and personally know too and now with cassie's three it's it's loaded it's layered there's a lot going on there's all kinds of things that i'm seeing are wrong in my opinion i want to see a cultural reset on the music industry
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I think there are toxic levels and layers to this that involve all kinds of things and people. It's been gossiped in the streets for a long time that there are things that are off with him. No? Mama, have you heard the gossip in the streets? I have. There's gossip in the streets. It's been there for a long time. And some people like me or whoever said it put things together for people.
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I don't know. I just.
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It's a big part of what you're saying in this case. That kind of was his brand, right? He takes a bunch of unknown people on this TV show and he makes them a band. It's bringing the non-celebrity fame person to the light and giving them celebrity and fame. his brand of celebrity and fame was engulfed in all kinds of, you know, however one wants to see it.
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I don't want to place judgment, so I'm looking for the word, but let's just say dark behavior. Like, because there's that energy over there, everybody that was in his area of celebrity and fame experienced that. They also experienced all of the highs that he has, all of the lows. Like, you know, the emotions were very extreme and very instant. You know, it was giving.
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Anyone that was willingly bringing people in, anyone that was willingly doing things with somebody that was passed out. Correct. Anyone that was part of the wrangling or the actual behavior. To me, the wranglers are just as bad as the behavior.
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Prior to this trial, you did announce it, so maybe they just felt... The thing is, though, is that you can't take somebody's experience out of the water because they have any type of mental health condition. Everybody in this room probably has some... It's a sliding scale. Without a doubt.
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You have to take Diddy out of the trial if you're not going to address mental health.
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He never has. I know. That's what made me want to bring him here because he doesn't.
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He wants an apology. I asked him.
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And they're in their own court supporting him.
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When you woke up in that room, was he in the room?
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The testimony has been so dramatic that I get wrapped up in the emotion of it. And then I go home and go, girl, stop. You saw little bits of X, Y, and Z where you know what you know. And then I calm down for a second and go, okay, let me just... I always try to come back, like I said day one, when you said, what do I want the ending to be? I don't have a choice.
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I don't have like a dog in the fight. Like I said, my number one thing that I love is the law. The number one thing I respect are the officers that went around and did what they did. And the number one thing that I want to see happen is I want them to prove the case that they brought forward. They're the Southern District. They fail very, very few times.
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I don't think they'd take a fail on Diddy, the biggest iconic, you know, one of the biggest, most iconic people in the music world. So to me, I just want the case to be proven. And maybe it, you know, it is in the... The weaving of the good and bad.
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I think there was admission by Cassie of the things that she said that appear like there was desires in some of it and then not desires in a lot of it. Maybe it is complicated and complex and maybe you have to leave room for, even with Dawn, and I know you guys don't feel that way right now.
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I mean, was it exciting?
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Mia Changes Everything!
Right.
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Mia Changes Everything!
Exactly.
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Mia Changes Everything!
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Mia Changes Everything!
Y'all are a little bit lazy.
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Aubrey O'Day: Cassie's Cross Examination
We heard Cassie testify that it was her husband, Alex, who stopped her from all of the thoughts of suicide that she had. That she even wanted, she said, I believe on the stand, she wanted to walk out in traffic and literally just have a bus or a car and everything. And it was her husband who pulled her back from that, those suicidal thoughts.
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I'm curious about your reaction to that and your experience and other bandmates' experience, the power he had over so many people, that it actually could contribute to you feeling like you wanted to end your life. I mean, was that shocking to you? Do you relate at all to how Cassidy felt?
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It's so interesting how I'm sure non-shocked and unsurprised you were when we heard Cassie talk about just him directing these freak-offs and how everything, it mattered how she looked. And it didn't matter how she felt. She talked about vomiting.
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Aubrey O'Day: Cassie's Cross Examination
And because of the drugs she had to be on to stay up for as many as four days straight.
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Aubrey O'Day: Cassie's Cross Examination
My goodness.
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Aubrey O'Day: Cassie's Cross Examination
I just remember this was supposed to be, and it seemed like it was a cordial partying conversation.
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Aubrey O'Day: Cassie's Cross Examination
Could you tell when Diddy was on drugs and when he wasn't?
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Aubrey O'Day: Cassie's Cross Examination
We know that obviously when we're hearing some of the cross-examination that's coming at Cassie from the defense attorneys, she even openly admitted that she even after what she called rape, the rape happened, she claimed she did have consensual sex with him another time after that. And sometimes people look at that and say, come on. And if you're in a relationship, come on.
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Aubrey O'Day: Cassie's Cross Examination
What do you say to those people who are now questioning the credibility of whether or not she was actually raped, given the fact that she was ending the relationship with him, but that she then had consensual sex with him afterwards?
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Aubrey, so many of us who have been listening to Cassie's testimony have been shocked. I mean, we had heard just general details about what she might say, but to actually hear her go into descriptive detail about what she says she experienced over a decade, was there anything she said in these last several days of testimony that surprised you, that shocked you? No. Wow.
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When's the last time you talked to Cassie and when this is all over and you're able to, will you reach out to her?
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Aubrey O'Day: Cassie's Cross Examination
It just takes one to hang the jury.
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Aubrey O'Day: Cassie's Cross Examination
What was the hardest thing to hear from her?
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Aubrey O'Day: Cassie's Cross Examination
Just remind everyone how it went down, how he fired you.
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Aubrey O'Day: Cassie's Cross Examination
So you went back to watch the firing to kind of relive it so you knew what actually happened.
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That was tough. That jumped out at us too. So when you said that, we both said, wow, we had the exact same reaction.
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Aubrey O'Day: Cassie's Cross Examination
You've talked about all the people around Diddy who were there to make sure he had his every need met. When you heard Cassie testify about all of the people who supplied the drugs, the baby oil, who all had to be a part of creating these freak-offs, or at least the ambiance around them, the lighting had to be correct, the hotel rooms had to be... Very ditty, very Scorpio, very visual. Yes.
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Aubrey O'Day: Cassie's Cross Examination
Welcome everyone to Amy and TJ presents Aubrey O'Day. I'm Amy Robach alongside my partner TJ Holmes and we have Aubrey with us to talk about what's going on with the Sean Diddy Combs trial and Aubrey certainly has perspective like no one else.
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Aubrey O'Day: Cassie's Cross Examination
Were you aware, like I know that you said you weren't surprised by her testimony, but did everyone know that this was all going on, that these freak-offs and these sex parties were happening, and apparently there had to have been so many bottles of this baby oil around that, I mean, that was a big headline obviously early on, but you start hearing about just how much and why he wanted it, and was that all common knowledge?
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Production value.
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Aubrey O'Day: Cassie's Cross Examination
He was almost creating his own porno. Yes.
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Aubrey O'Day: Cassie's Cross Examination
OK. And so to that point, we heard Cassie talk about and she said even a facial expression, the wrong face could set him off.
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Aubrey O'Day: Cassie's Cross Examination
I'm curious. I was kind of impressed actually at how much you pushed back with him.
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Aubrey O'Day: Cassie's Cross Examination
So I was, that was what I was going to ask. Were you a, I mean, you ended up getting pushed out of the band because of him.
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Aubrey O'Day: Cassie's Cross Examination
And would you say that that was because you stood up to him? You said what you wanted. You actually were speaking your truth, and he didn't like that.
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Aubrey O'Day: Cassie's Cross Examination
That's actually an excellent point.
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Aubrey O'Day: Cassie's Cross Examination
That's wild. Well, don't go on X. Yeah, we try to avoid that actually at all costs.
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Hey Aubrey, this is Jean-Pierre Bon Jovi. No one has been discussing the alleged remarks of how everyone within the, you know, the bad boy circle who was really close to Emmanuel had tell all books, mysteriously all died from the same issues, which was pneumonia at very young, at a very young age with no prior history.
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How far would Joel go to cover up what he'd done? You're unable to keep track of all your lies. And quite frankly, I question how many other women may bring forward allegations in the future.
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The fact that you lied is absolutely horrific. And quite frankly, I question how many other women are out there that may bring forward allegations in the future.
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The fact that you lied is absolutely horrific. And quite frankly, I question how many other women are out there that may bring forward allegations in the future.
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I remember sitting on her couch and asking her, is this real? Is this real? Is this real? Is this real?
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Yeah, the melted wax candles. You heard about that, too. But yeah, she just described just wet towels and blood and urine and just fluids. I just I can't even imagine being tasked with that.
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Get your head around that. That is really insane to even think about. And then she also, Mia also. testified about being with Cassie, being on vacation in Turks and Caicos, I believe, and Cassie came running out of the hotel room begging Mia to help her, saying, you've got to help me. He's going to kill me.
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That you spend years with. That you continue to go back to. That's just, it's hard to get your head around it again. I know I keep saying that, but this is all, like you said, like a horror movie. It doesn't feel like this could possibly have actually happened, but yet we have witness after witness testifying to the same sort of thing. So yeah, they were able to run out the back. I believe.
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And they actually were like looking for a place to go to get away from him. They found paddle boards and they actually took the paddle boards and went way out into the ocean to get away from Diddy, according to Mia. So they could barely even see the land or the buildings. Like that's how far out they were.
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And then the weather started to turn and they realized they might be in trouble with mother nature. And she said that they actually had to make a decision. What's worse. Facing Mother Nature or facing Diddy. That's wild that they were in that position out in the ocean with a storm brewing and they felt safer there than they did near Diddy.
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That's hard to imagine with everything she testified that she experienced and that she endured, that that was the moment where she felt like actually her life, Cassie's life, Deontay's life might all actually be threatened because of Diddy and his rage and the black in his eyes. It's beyond scary to think about.
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And speaking of Deontay, I found this was interesting that Diddy's defense team was doing their best to try and, you know, just poke some holes in what he was saying. And when they actually brought up an instance when Deontay said he left a hotel room because Combs wanted to invite a guy over.
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The Diddy Trial: “Mia” Takes the Stand
And so the defense attorney said, hey, well, then you must not have been that concerned about Cassie's safety if you were willing to leave the hotel room. And he said, I always did. I was always worried. And can you imagine being in that inner circle, having a job, and yet knowing you couldn't say no to Diddy and knowing that when you left...
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The Diddy Trial: “Mia” Takes the Stand
You weren't sure if your friend was going to be safe or not. That is what each of these employees had to live with and are speaking to that they were, yes, concerned for their own safety, but always worried about Cassie's when they left her alone.
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The Diddy Trial: “Mia” Takes the Stand
So yes, initially it was supposed to be eight weeks. It looks like it's going to be at least eight weeks to get through all of the testimony. And do we have any idea? You know, there was early speculation. I can't imagine that Diddy would take the stand. But do we have any idea who Diddy is going to call up to the stand to defend himself?
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The Diddy Trial: “Mia” Takes the Stand
Yeah, she said she once worked for five days without sleep. She said her vision was blurring. She said she burst into tears, and that was the only point at which Diddy let her take a break and be off the clock. But by the way, with all that we just described, all of this that she claims she endured, she said her base salary was $50,000 a year. Think about that.
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$50,000 a year to work endlessly and to be working under those types of conditions.
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The Diddy Trial: “Mia” Takes the Stand
They just didn't know what that world actually was until they were in it.
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The Diddy Trial: “Mia” Takes the Stand
And we will continue to share all of the stories that we hear on the stand each and every day. So we appreciate you listening here while we try to sum up what is happening in that courtroom just a few blocks from where we're recording this right now. But we hope you have a wonderful day and a great weekend, everyone. Thanks for listening. Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here.
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The Diddy Trial: “Mia” Takes the Stand
Diddy's former protege, television personality, Danity King alum, Aubrey O'Day, joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
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The Diddy Trial: “Mia” Takes the Stand
I know. This witness in particular actually testified anonymously. She went under the name or the pseudonym of Mia, but she was one of Diddy's personal assistants who claims and testified that she was raped and sexually assaulted by Diddy. And she was up there weeping on the stand. And yeah, to your point, you think you've heard it all. And these witnesses are consistent.
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The picture that they are painting, the stories that are telling are all consistent with this theme of Diddy being a horrifically violent and angry man who did whatever he wanted to whomever he wanted when he wanted. And it's just appalling. If you're believing what each of these witnesses are testifying to, they are painting the picture of an evil, maniacal tyrant.
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They really do. And each witness that gets on the stand is corroborating what the witness before them said and before them said, and then making it feel and seem and appear to be even worse than we originally thought.
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There were to be no descriptions of what Mia actually looked like. In fact, the courtroom sketch artist. drew a blank face now the jurors did get to know her name so i think that's important to know she did put her name out there in the courtroom and stood by what she was saying but the entire courtroom was instructed to not obviously repeat her name or describe her in any way
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Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, Danity King alum Aubrey O'Day joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
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That's right. She says that Diddy, of course, yes, forbade her to lock her door in his home. So she says he came into the room, climbed on top of her, penetrated her, and she said that she was quietly... Just taking it and just let him do what he was going to do because she said she felt like she was unable to say no. She said she feared retaliation.
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This quote that she said or this testimony that she gave was jarring to me. Even though she's describing the rape, she's describing what happened when she said this, it made me feel sick. She said, I couldn't tell him no about a sandwich. I couldn't tell him no about anything.
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There was no way I could tell him no, because then he would know that I thought what he was doing was wrong, and then I would be a target.
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I don't think it's hard to understand at all because human beings, you either fight, you either flight, or you freeze. And the freezing thing, I get as a woman. I totally, absolutely relate to that. And she described it so chillingly. And she also talked about how that wasn't the only time.
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I think she said it began in her mid-20s when she started to work for him during one of his birthday parties, his 40th birthday party at the Plaza Hotel here in New York City. She says Combs kissed her and put his hand up her dress.
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The party and she said she thought it would never happen again, but then of course that incident happened in That bedroom that she was staying at at Diddy's house But then she said another time she was packing it back for him in his closet and he came into the closet She said his penis was exposed. She said he grabbed her head and forced her to give him oral sex and
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She would let her guard down. And by the way, she worked for Diddy for eight years, beginning in 2009. And she said the highs were really high and the lows were really low. And we've heard that almost exact same sentiment repeated by other witnesses who have taken the stand who have worked for Diddy. But not only did she testify to sexual assaults,
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She talked about what he physically assaulted her with. She said he'd thrown her against the wall. He threw her into a pool. He threw an ice bucket over her head. He slammed her arm into a door. She talks about how he threw a bowl of spaghetti at her head, a computer at her head.
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Right, exactly. Like for almost seemingly insignificant things or things she had absolutely no control over, she would be suddenly the subject of violence if he got pissed off, basically. She also said this, which I thought was just such an interesting thing. And just get your head around where his head was.
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She said he could ask you to do 17,000 things at one time that would range from cracking his knuckles to writing his next movie to doing his taxes. And it was all on a whim. You never knew when a request was coming. But if you couldn't figure out how to do it, you might be in trouble.
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You know, the shame and guilt and anyone who has faced any sort of sexual assault or any kind of abuse understands that shame and guilt are a part of it because you think to yourself, I could have done more. I should have done more. I should have done this. And not that you believe you deserved it, but you believe that you could have done something to stop it or change it.
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And that's part of the reason why so many women and so many abuse victims never come forward.
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So to even see her on the stand and admit that and talk about these unthinkable, unspeakable acts, I really have to give her and so many of the other people who have gotten up on that witness stand and said what they didn't want to say and said what they never intended to ever tell anyone else and had to do it in front of the world with Diddy just a few feet in front of them.
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I cannot imagine what... what that was like, but she also described that part of her job was to clean up. And we've heard this from other assistants who worked for him, either to set up or to clean up hotel rooms after some of these freak-offs. And she describes the scenes, and it was just jarring to hear what she said she had to clean up.
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Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, platinum-selling artist, Danity King alum Aubrey O'Day joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
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Uh, so Cuddy did say they had a meeting. Did he looked him in the eye, said, I'm not responsible for any of that stuff. I didn't do it. He shook on it. Cuddy said, I didn't believe him for a second. And then he said, several years later, they ran into each other and did, he wasn't specific, but he apologized for all that BS, all that mess.
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So he took it at admission, but he wasn't specific about it.
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But that's still to your point about he said they got played. I mean, you talk about they try to keep up with her credibility, but her culpability is going to be an issue in this case because they did all these text messages. She wanted to be there. She was initiating. She was leading sometimes and all these things. And to hear, yes, her testimony was devastating to hear.
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Clearly, we know and we have seen her be abused. But... To hear a steady drumbeat, even a little bit here and there of, oh, Cassie's not just... A victim. Just a victim. She's an accomplice to some degree is what the defense is trying to establish. And maybe that one little... Comment. Yeah, I got it. Play by Cassie plays in some way to one juror.
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The other, and we talk about the, we're going to go through some details here now that you all, I just can't believe. This was from the general manager of La Meritage in LA, a hotel out there. But Frederick Zemore is his name, the general manager. But Robes, this blew my mind. Talk about culpability. We talk about who did all of us in some way allow this to happen in plain sight.
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This hotel might have some more to answer given this testimony yesterday.
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Different. We've all probably, well, we travel enough. to where you're at a place, or even if you have rewards or something like a rewards program, you go to a hotel, they have a profile on you that knows you like this, has a nut allergy, dah, dah, dah. If you're there enough, it's that kind of thing. There is a guest profile that is warning guests or the hotel employees
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This is how you handle this guy. This is how he behaves. This is how you need to do it in response. Why would anybody would be kicked out for the behavior that they have in his profile?
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I guess because it's Sean Diddy Combs. Is there any other reason? The financial? Because somebody pays for a hotel room?
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So yes, to your point, I would love to ask some more questions of this hotel.
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Can you imagine? The punisher called out, hey, we're going to need a late checkout.
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You know what? Many people who are thinking, when did I stay at that hotel?
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Did I stay in that? It did smell a little weird.
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You know what? You use this, or I did not know, and we need to address this. These are freak-offs.
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You earlier said that someone was freaking off. So can it be a verb and a noun?
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First time I heard anybody say that was just you about five minutes ago.
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They were freaking off. It's a verb now.
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What you doing later? I'll be freaking off. I'm not going to be able to get with y'all until maybe next week.
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Does baby oil smell a certain way? Baby oil, possibly burning candles, sweaty flesh.
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She got sick at times.
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Look, y'all.
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You can stop giving that detail.
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But the note here, in quotes, it said, please monitor outside his room, down the hall to spray air freshener. You just have to monitor a guest's room because we know all kinds of foolishness. Did they not know something illegal was going on?
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They're going to claim they didn't know. They have to. They're going to claim they didn't know a legal activity was going on, but they're permitting it. I mean, people are being paid for sex. I believe that's still illegal.
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They are not. But yeah, to hear that, it was really eye-opening to hear that they had a file, essentially, and knew how to handle him based on these freak-offs. The other significant, a couple new details here from George Kaplan, the former assistant. He had been on the stand the previous day, but he wrapped up in the morning, but he confirmed the stories that Cassie also told.
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He said he left his job because he did witness her be abused on more than one occasion. So he wrapped up his testimony. And again, this is another guy, Rose, we talked about, like many, he didn't want to be there and almost wasn't going to be there.
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cassie refused to go to the emergency room refused to call police and here's this maya morales and her friend who's a physician everyone just stays quiet they're afraid she said she was afraid we're gonna have to get into this later and i think we could all learn something about this case no not every um instance is deals with a guy as powerful as a diddy but
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But to hear the number of people who are aware, who were literally there when crimes were taking place that they're now describing on a stand, and not a single person called police. I am not aware at this point, at least, of a police report that was done anywhere.
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We've got to do better. I mean, this is a tough lesson for all of us to be learning together, but to hear how many, I mean, we could probably just start naming up to 10 easily, but there's more who saw it and no one did anything. I know what they're arguing. There's a powerful guy. We were fearful of physical harm, death, all kinds of stuff. That makes sense. But we got to, we got to do better.
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It's complex and we get that, but it's just, we, um, This is a hell of a, and again, folks, we will continue to update you and do these daily updates of the trial because it is important, we think, to get past headlines, to get past baby oil, to get past supervillains, to get past some of the salaciousness in the headlines.
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But we're going to continue to tell you what's happening, but I want to keep a conversation going with you all as well. So we certainly appreciate you all listening.
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Hey there, folks. It is Friday, May 23rd, the second week of testimony, and the Diddy trial is done and enwrapped Thursday with one of the most highly anticipated witnesses so far, Kid Cudi, the rapper who briefly dated Cassie Ventura, Diddy's ex-girlfriend.
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And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ, roles we continue to be, as you put it, the one-stop shop to get folks caught up so they don't have to go shopping around a bunch of places with a bunch of reporting on a bunch of testimony.
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That's a good way to put it. She was there for three, maybe even four days that she spent time on the stand setting a foundation, and now everybody's coming in, essentially corroborating or at least lending something to what she said. Like, oh, yeah, that thing we saw Diddy do, that's in line with what Cassie said. So there's been a lot of that. We got 16 witnesses so far.
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We do let you know, testimony's not going to start again until next Tuesday. They took off for the holiday weekend, but Robes, as they wrapped up the week, I like asking you here, what stood out to you? from the previous day that we now have in the books.
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He's speaking there of the general manager of a hotel. He was one of several witnesses on the stand yesterday. At least four were up there yesterday. Among them, the former assistant, he continued his testimony from the previous day. Diddy's former assistant, George Kaplan is his name. We had a makeup artist who used to work for Diddy, but then ended up working for Cassie. She,
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uh testify to some violence that she saw and then of course we had uh kid cuddy uh let's start there kid cuddy is a grammy winner this guy is um i'm not sure who to compare him to uh in the rap world but he's for some people you got to do a little bit of a deep dive right he is um he is not a grand top chart topping hit maker type guy he is more of a guy that stays in his lane he's a little um
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He's a little more, I would say, creative. He's outside the box of regular hip-hop in a lot of ways.
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But that's the thing. A lot of people don't seem to know who he is, and he is well-respected in that community as being a creative. Not just a raw guy who gets up there, obviously has talent, but he is respected as a creative. We're giving folks an idea of who this guy is, but he walked in Robson, the first thing that struck me was what he was wearing. I mean, he got out of the car.
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This is a very high profile trial. A beat up motorcycle jacket, white t-shirt, smoking a cigarette, walking into the courtroom.
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That's how he chose to show up. That's him. That's in line with him. That's in line with his personality. Do you think? But that struck me as soon as I saw it. Like, where is he going? Is he going into a club?
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You never know. But smokers never know when they need a smoke break. But when they need one, they need one. But he walked in completely chilling. But the background here, the relevance here, Robes, is that this is the guy who who dated Cassie for about a month. And I guess we've heard the story so many times at this point of how did he find out, found out about it.
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And that's how Cuddy finds himself in this story.
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This is where he comes into play here, where Kid Cudi claims that after this, there was a break-in at his home, and that somebody torched his car with a Molotov cocktail. Um, he believes that Diddy is behind both of those.
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Uh, he described an incident, um, in which he got on the phone with Diddy and they were telling him to come home, like threatening him to, and telling him to come to his own house. So when he got there, the place was trashed, but Diddy wasn't there.
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So even on the stand telling the story and maybe we hear all this and it pieces together with, okay, maybe that sounds like Diddy or that's in line with some other stuff. They had proved necessarily that Diddy was there, but the inference is clear.
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Aubrey O'Day is sitting next to us here. You are, as we sit here, right up the street from where the trial is taking place. Some people saw that you were going to be in New York and they immediately started jumping to conclusions. So can you clear that up? First of all, are you here to testify in the Diddy Trap?
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Aubrey will offer her opinions and expertise based on her firsthand knowledge from her days on making the band as she emerged as the breakout star. The truth of the situation would be opposite of the glitz and glamour.
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That lets you know who Kid Cudi is and why he's important to this case. But he got on the stand. I think, Robeson, this is part of the reason we want to do these updates and we're continuing to do so throughout the trial is because a lot of times you only see a headline and you try to make sense of it.
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And a headline that many of you may have seen already is that Cudi called Diddy a Marvel supervillain. and there's some context with that. We got some earlier and pieced this story together, and that sounds like it's clever and it's cute and it's funny, but there's a whole lot more to it than that.
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That surprised me. We did. We talked to someone who's worked with him over the years and right in the middle of the height of Bad Boy and said, yes, that is a, that's absolutely, I recognize it. I know it. I've seen it a hundred times. He was just, and if you stop and think about a lot of these Disney movies.
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There's some guy standing at a window, looking out, hands behind his back, some ominous look. He said that was something he was known for, and did he regularly did. But he said it in a funny way, a Marvel supervillain, but, you know, supervillains are scary.
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Making the Band’s Que - addressing the trial and finding healing from the pain
Amy and T.J.
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Making the Band’s Que - addressing the trial and finding healing from the pain
Diddy wanted to get a look at you as she was bringing him to you.
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Q, when you got into that car with Diddy and Dawn, what happened in that car? And Cassie. And Cassie. What happened in that car? What was talked about? What was said? What was the mood like?
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Q, how would you describe your relationship with Diddy?
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Making the Band’s Que - addressing the trial and finding healing from the pain
Welcome, everyone, to this edition of Amy and TJ Presents, Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy trial. Yes, we are talking all things Sean Diddy Combs while he is on trial here in Manhattan, facing five federal counts and facing life in prison. And we've been speaking with Aubrey because, of course, she is, well, she was one of his protégés in her band, Danity Kane. She knows him well.
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Q, I'm curious because you did see- Which sounds like what Q's saying. I was like, you did see a lot more and were involved a lot more in that other side of things. From what you've heard and read of Cassie's testimony, is she telling the truth?
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Q, can you tell us what you heard and what you saw?
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I thought I was seeing dinosaurs. It was in a child state of mind. I mean, it's devastating to the point where I believe TJ and I are almost speechless at this point because it's hard to even get your head around what that must be like, what that must be like for you, Mama. And I'm curious, Q... You said you're getting back. How are you now? How are you today?
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How long has this road been for you to get where you are?
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And there is so much more to unpack here. So stick around because we will be back with Aubrey Q and his mom, Nicole.
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He wasn't usually like that?
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She certainly has been offering her perspective. But with us today... First of all, we have, well, he's known as Q. His actual name is Quan L. Mosley. He's an American singer. You may remember him from the band Day 26, also with Making the Band. So he and Aubrey go way back. Thank you all. How are you all doing? This is some heavy stuff. You're having to relive a lot of trauma.
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Yeah, take your time. It's okay. It's understandable that you're reliving this and emotion comes with it. There's just no way around it.
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Do you know what happened to you?
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But do you believe that some of what happened to you was recorded on one or many of these iPhones?
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Making the Band’s Que - addressing the trial and finding healing from the pain
So there are people who do know what happened to you, and there's a reason you believe why they're not telling you?
Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes present: Aubrey O’Day, Covering the Diddy Trial
Making the Band’s Que - addressing the trial and finding healing from the pain
How are each of you doing? Aubrey, we'll start with you.
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Making the Band’s Que - addressing the trial and finding healing from the pain
Yeah.
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Making the Band’s Que - addressing the trial and finding healing from the pain
Nicole, can you describe your son before he started with this band, with Diddy, with this whole world? Who was he before? He was so energetic.
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The Diddy Trial: Diddy Threatened By Judge
Some of the stuff you just described, very difficult to hear. What an awful situation for this woman. But she had some of the kindest things to say in terms of their relationship. How happy she was and how happy they were together. How charming. She said a bunch of complimentary things. But it's weird to have that come out of her mouth and this being the experience she had.
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The Diddy Trial: Diddy Threatened By Judge
How can you, when you're dating, you're in a relationship and 90% of that time is spent having sex with other men that he wants you to do. Yeah.
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The Diddy Trial: Diddy Threatened By Judge
I thought it was a little... I guess Cassie Ventura Fine talked about this as well, where she... I mean, she wasn't even an artist anymore, right? Her full-time job was doing these freak-offs. Well, this Jane... said that she wouldn't work, she wouldn't travel, and she kept child care on standby just in case he called and told her to travel somewhere for a freak off. That's a job.
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The Diddy Trial: Diddy Threatened By Judge
You are just on standby to serve this one person that you depend on everything for, and she did. I hope she talked about it. She did these because she felt obligated.
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The Diddy Trial: Diddy Threatened By Judge
If these folks are lying, they have coordinated really well because these stories all sound just the same. Like you can almost just tell and just remove the names and just move them around on different stories because they all sound like they went through the exact same experience. He had a pattern, if you believe, if they are to believe.
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The Diddy Trial: Diddy Threatened By Judge
And we all wonder, we hear about this stuff, yeah, we know he's a bad guy, he was a bad boss, he was an abuser, but what does this have to do with racketeering? What does it have to do with the charges? They're trying to establish here, again, his criminal enterprise and sex trafficking. He essentially has someone here who is moving across state lines, possibly for payment, to be engaged in sex.
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The Diddy Trial: Diddy Threatened By Judge
Well, free calls. Yes.
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The Diddy Trial: Diddy Threatened By Judge
Well, that's to come. Who knows if they'll even get to a cross-examination of her today. She is expected, folks, to be on the stand for several days, and she was only up there for a few hours yesterday. So much more to come from her. We, of course, will continue to keep you updated as your one-stop shop, I think we can go with.
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The Diddy Trial: Diddy Threatened By Judge
We go through all these reports from media members inside and put it all together here for you. So we know you've been listening, so thank you certainly for doing that.
Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes present: Aubrey O’Day, Covering the Diddy Trial
The Diddy Trial: Diddy Threatened By Judge
Hey there, folks. It is Friday, June 6th, the fourth week of testimony, wrapping up today in the Diddy trial. And day 17 was full of headline-making moments, including testimony from one highly anticipated witness, and as the judge threatened to kick Diddy out of his own trial. All that happened on day 17. Welcome, folks, to this episode of Amy and TJ.
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The Diddy Trial: Diddy Threatened By Judge
Robes, did it happen again that every day we think, oh, we've heard it all, and something else comes?
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The Diddy Trial: Diddy Threatened By Judge
So we're going to take you through the latest full day of testimony. Of course, today is Friday, June 6th, as we are recording this. They're just going to be getting back to court in a little bit. We're expected another full day of on the stand, the Jane woman who is testifying under that pseudonym to protect her identity.
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The Diddy Trial: Diddy Threatened By Judge
She's expected to be on the stand today and maybe even a couple of days later.
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The Diddy Trial: Diddy Threatened By Judge
into next week brianna bongolin was on the stand yesterday as well she is the one who was dangled over the balcony allegedly by diddy and then enrique santos who testified about some technical stuff having to do with text messages but robes it was um before we even get to testimony there was a moment in court that the judge got pissed and this is a major no-no by diddy
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The Diddy Trial: Diddy Threatened By Judge
Well, apparently in front of everybody. But again, this is as strict of a no-no as you can get. You see stuff like this in movies, defendants, right? Mobsters or something, criminals interacting, sometimes flirting even with one of the female jurors. No, no, that does not happen in real life.
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The Diddy Trial: Diddy Threatened By Judge
It's not supposed to happen. Now, I don't know what Diddy was doing here, but the judge caught this both times. On one occasion, he looked over and was shaking his head, maybe at one particular juror, and then he did it a second time. The judge stopped everything. And according to at least this reporter Robes in the room, as a play-by-play, the exact quote of what the judge said.
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The Diddy Trial: Diddy Threatened By Judge
And that was the warning. He said, if I see it one more time, he's out of here. There was nothing else, if I see it at all.
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The Diddy Trial: Diddy Threatened By Judge
But is that point blank double jeopardy? And they're just not allowed to do that. They're not allowed to come back and say, we messed up by allowing you to do something.
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The Diddy Trial: Diddy Threatened By Judge
What was he doing to be doing it aggressively? He knew everybody was going to see that.
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The Diddy Trial: Diddy Threatened By Judge
What signal would that even be making to a juror?
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The Diddy Trial: Diddy Threatened By Judge
His trial goes on without him, right? He didn't say how long he would take him out or how long he'd punish him, but he absolutely said if it happens again, he will kick him out. That was a big moment. The other huge moment, Robes, was from Brianna Bongolin.
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The Diddy Trial: Diddy Threatened By Judge
And the defense has been going at her on cross-examination and kind of picking her apart on her memory of that incident in 2016 when she says Diddy dangled her over the 17th floor balcony at Cassie Ventura Fine's apartment. Look, that was eight years ago. She admitted she was on drugs a lot at the time and she was high at the time of the incident.
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The Diddy Trial: Diddy Threatened By Judge
So they've been able to pick it apart about some small discrepancy.
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The Diddy Trial: Diddy Threatened By Judge
Yeah, but yesterday though, Robes, this was a huge discrepancy and it's kind of a big, how did they miss that moment for the prosecutions?
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The Diddy Trial: Diddy Threatened By Judge
So even if she's off a day or two, he's still covered.
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The Diddy Trial: Diddy Threatened By Judge
Or a month or a year or something. But it does not match up. That date does not match up at all.
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The Diddy Trial: Diddy Threatened By Judge
The day you were almost thrown to your death from a 17th floor balcony by one of the most powerful media moguls on the planet. You think you remember that date?
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The Diddy Trial: Diddy Threatened By Judge
It seemed to have thrown them off guard and she didn't have much of an answer. So, OK, I just could have been off or my memories a little fuzzy. But this is a witness that the defense has made some headway with in the cross examination. And now here's another at the end. This is a huge. huge discrepancy.
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The Diddy Trial: Diddy Threatened By Judge
He has a receipt from Trump Tower for almost the entire week surrounding the date she said he was in LA dangling her off a balcony. This was a tough witness for the prosecution.
Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes present: Aubrey O’Day, Covering the Diddy Trial
The Diddy Trial: Diddy Threatened By Judge
And to think that can be the case after we've heard from Mia, after we heard from Cassie Ventura Fine, all those days of how awful these stories were, and still people are getting shook by what they're hearing. From a witness, Jane, is somebody who, I think she's the third of four victims that they are actually presenting their case with, but hers is incredibly important.
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The Diddy Trial: Diddy Threatened By Judge
She had probes, as you put it, there are some new details, you said, I think, off the top. About the same things, right? She talked about freak off. She talked about dating Diddy. She talked about violence and all of those things are follow almost the exact same pattern of the storyline with Cassie Ventura fine, but still some of the details that come out are still new and still shocking.
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The Diddy Trial: Diddy Threatened By Judge
I know this isn't the biggest deal in the world, but even the idea that there were 24 bottles of baby oil used per session, she said, she got that specific.
Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes present: Aubrey O’Day, Covering the Diddy Trial
Speaking of the Devil…
Aubrey, you said a moment ago you had a hard time sleeping last night. Can you tell us for a moment, and from a personal standpoint, whether it was in your head and in your heart, what was so upsetting about what you saw yesterday that you had a difficult time processing and settling down, if you will?
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Speaking of the Devil…
We've talked to you almost every day and you said the prosecution was doing fairly well. I think, Robes, correct me if I'm wrong, this is the first time we heard something from you that you're kind of pausing and you're concerned, if you will, about the direction things went.
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Speaking of the Devil…
You don't think it was enough. Some of the inconsistencies and there were plenty. She said, I don't remember a lot. But one of them was you told them you were smoking a cigarette at the time. You're telling us you were smoking marijuana at the time. I know that seems minor. But do you think it was effective enough, even if the inconsistencies were minor, that they collected alcohol?
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Speaking of the Devil…
enough to put in a juror's mind, you know what, if she didn't remember that thing, then maybe she's not remembering the other thing correctly.
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Speaking of the Devil…
Can I, for clarity here, you said you know who the person is, but do you also know the person personally and have had interactions with this person?
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Speaking of the Devil…
Can you go as far as you can? Obviously, we're not asking you to identify because she's not going to be identified in court. Just anything about her, just demeanor, how she comes off to you, what your impressions are of her, just some simpler blanket things, just your impressions of this person upon just having whatever interaction you've had with her.
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Speaking of the Devil…
All right. And as we're doing this, testimony is underway. And Brianna is back on the stand this morning. I want to ask you one thing that's going back and forth. And to your point, she's struggling.
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Speaking of the Devil…
Well, it seems like she's struggling pretty badly because they're going at her on one of the critical, critical points. Critical point about her lawsuit, which when it came out, we knew some details about the dangling over the balcony. But another very big part of that was that she said,
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Speaking of the Devil…
And Combs did he groped her, grabbed her breasts and then she got loose from him and then there was a little back and forth and then he dangled her. Well, in court, even when she was prompted to recall that detail about her civil lawsuit that she was groped, even when prompted, she didn't come up with it again. So she's they are really going at her right now.
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Speaking of the Devil…
Now, it's one thing you can't remember if you were smoking weed or smoking a cigarette. It's another thing. The major point, a major point of her civil lawsuit is that groping. And what do you think hearing that now today? She's she couldn't come up with that detail.
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Speaking of the Devil…
As a disclaimer, we should say we do not recommend driving after you smoke weed. But go ahead. We got your point.
Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes present: Aubrey O’Day, Covering the Diddy Trial
Speaking of the Devil…
On drugs, what was it called? A Cocoa Puff?
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Speaking of the Devil…
You know what that is? A blunt with cocaine sprinkled on it.
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Speaking of the Devil…
Oh, this was a thing. This was popular.
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Speaking of the Devil…
It used to be Puff Daddy. I can't remember how he started. He's changed it four or five times, I believe, legally even.
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Speaking of the Devil…
Oh, yeah. He's love now.
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Speaking of the Devil…
And it's still the Sears Tower in Chicago for me. There's some things I'll just never go.
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Speaking of the Devil…
Oh, the Staples Center. That's the Staples Center. Yeah, it's still the Staples Center.
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Speaking of the Devil…
I want to ask you one last thing for me, because this has been jumping out at me almost every day, is that someone, there's always somebody we discover knew and didn't say anything. Like someone knew or witnessed, and we go through a long list of folks, and some of them have been witnesses, to crimes that this man committed, in particular, Diddy beating Cassie on that video.
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Speaking of the Devil…
We learned, Aubrey, that another security guard recorded that video on his cell phone. And he took it home just so he could show his wife. Now, that is disgusting to hear and to think about that it was just voyeurism.
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Speaking of the Devil…
People are so weird. But it's one thing, Aubrey, when we talk about people in his inner circle that saw it and they were scared of him or they feared for their jobs or their careers or their money or even their their physical harm. We're talking now about this is a count five people, one superstar.
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Speaking of the Devil…
Supervisor at the security, another security guard, another security guard, another security guard, and then that security guard's wife. Five people eight years ago who did not work for Sean Diddy Combs saw this woman get the shit beat out of her on video. They saw a crime being committed, and those five people did nothing. Help me with that.
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Speaking of the Devil…
You've explained to us plenty, Ari, about people in his inner circle. Help us understand that a little better because that is a very difficult one to stomach.
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Speaking of the Devil…
Okay. God, king. What about monster? Is that going too far? Because some of the behavior that has been laid out the past four weeks is of someone who is other level beyond just a bad boss. Does monster fit based on what you know of this man? Is that just too far?
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Speaking of the Devil…
Wait a second, Arbor. You worked with him closely, intimately for years. You know him better than most, or certainly during that time. But you're telling us, right, you have learned more about him in this trial now that's giving you a different impression of the guy you knew.
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Speaking of the Devil…
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Speaking of the Devil…
Rihanna testified at one point, of course, the incident we'd heard so much about, but this was the first time we got a first person account of it. Rihanna said he dangles her off a 17th floor balcony. He said she claims he was yelling, you know what the fuck you did. And she says she has no idea what she did. How did that story or at least that part of it?
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Speaking of the Devil…
I want to ask you about that in particular. Like this man is banging on the door. He comes in, Matt hangs me off a balcony and I don't even know what he's upset about.
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Speaking of the Devil…
Again, as we sit here, she's not done yet. There is cross-examination and a redirect. But at this point, maybe we know the answer given some of the responses you've given us already, but I'll ask. Yeah. Has she been a win for the defense, a win for the prosecution, or this one's right now about playing even?
Betrayal: Season 4
Introducing: American Homicide
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, platinum-selling artist, Danity King alum Aubrey O'Day joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Betrayal: Season 4
Introducing: American Homicide
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Betrayal: Season 4
Introducing: American Homicide
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, platinum-selling artist, Danity King alum Aubrey O'Day joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Betrayal: Season 4
Introducing: American Homicide
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Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: RE-RELEASE: Donielle Pt. 1 & Pt. 2
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, platinum-selling artist, Danity King alum, Aubrey O'Day, joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: RE-RELEASE: Donielle Pt. 1 & Pt. 2
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Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: RE-RELEASE: Donielle Pt. 1 & Pt. 2
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, platinum-selling artist, Danity King alum Aubrey O'Day joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: RE-RELEASE: Donielle Pt. 1 & Pt. 2
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Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: RE-RELEASE: Donielle Pt. 1 & Pt. 2
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, platinum-selling artist, Danity King alum Aubrey O'Day joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: RE-RELEASE: Donielle Pt. 1 & Pt. 2
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Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: RE-RELEASE: Donielle Pt. 1 & Pt. 2
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, Danity King alum, Aubrey O'Day, joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: RE-RELEASE: Donielle Pt. 1 & Pt. 2
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, platinum-selling artist, Danity King alum Aubrey O'Day joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: RE-RELEASE: Donielle Pt. 1 & Pt. 2
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Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: RE-RELEASE: Donielle Pt. 1 & Pt. 2
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, Danity King alum, Aubrey O'Day, joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: RE-RELEASE: Donielle Pt. 1 & Pt. 2
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Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: RE-RELEASE: Donielle Pt. 1 & Pt. 2
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Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: RE-RELEASE: Donielle Pt. 1 & Pt. 2
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, platinum-selling artist, Danity King alum Aubrey O'Day joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: RE-RELEASE: Donielle Pt. 1 & Pt. 2
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Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 22 - Angelique Pt. 2
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, platinum-selling artist, Danity King alum, Aubrey O'Day, joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 22 - Angelique Pt. 2
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Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 22 - Angelique Pt. 2
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, Danity King alum, Aubrey O'Day, joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 22 - Angelique Pt. 2
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, Danity King alum, Aubrey O'Day, joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 22 - Angelique Pt. 2
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Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 22 - Angelique Pt. 2
Listen to Amy and TJ presents Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy trial on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 22 - Angelique Pt. 2
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, platinum-selling artist, Danity King alum Aubrey O'Day joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 22 - Angelique Pt. 2
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Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 20 - Carmen Rita Wong
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, platinum-selling artist, Danity King alum, Aubrey O'Day, joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 20 - Carmen Rita Wong
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Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 19 - Nancy
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, Danity King alum, Aubrey O'Day, joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 20 - Carmen Rita Wong
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, Danity King alum, Aubrey O'Day, joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 19 - Nancy
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, platinum-selling artist, Danity King alum Aubrey O'Day joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 19 - Nancy
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Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 20 - Carmen Rita Wong
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Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 19 - Nancy
Listen to Amy and TJ Presents Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy Trial on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 20 - Carmen Rita Wong
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, platinum-selling artist, Danity King alum, Aubrey O'Day, joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 19 - Nancy
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, platinum-selling artist, Danity King alum Aubrey O'Day joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 20 - Carmen Rita Wong
Listen to Amy and TJ Presents Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy Trial on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 19 - Nancy
Listen to Amy and TJ Presents Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy Trial on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 19 - Nancy
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, Danity King alum Aubrey O'Day joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 19 - Nancy
Listen to Amy and TJ Presents Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy Trial on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an iHeart Podcast.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 20 - Carmen Rita Wong
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, Danity King alum Aubrey O'Day joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 20 - Carmen Rita Wong
Listen to Amy and TJ Presents Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy Trial on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an iHeart Podcast.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 24 - Deb
This is an iHeart Podcast. Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, Danity King alum, Aubrey O'Day, joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 24 - Deb
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, platinum-selling artist, Danity King alum, Aubrey O'Day, joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 24 - Deb
Listen to Amy and TJ Presents Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy Trial on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 24 - Deb
Listen to Amy and TJ presents Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy trial on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 18 - Sara
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, platinum-selling artist, Danity King alum Aubrey O'Day joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 18 - Sara
Listen to Amy and TJ Presents Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy Trial on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 18 - Sara
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, platinum-selling artist, Danity King alum Aubrey O'Day joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 18 - Sara
Listen to Amy and TJ Presents Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy Trial on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 18 - Sara
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, Danity King alum, Aubrey O'Day, joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 18 - Sara
Listen to Amy and TJ presents Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy trial on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 18 - Sara
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, Danity King alum, Aubrey O'Day, joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 18 - Sara
Listen to Amy and TJ presents Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy trial on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 23 - Dawn
This is an iHeart Podcast. Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, Danity King alum, Aubrey O'Day, joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 23 - Dawn
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, platinum-selling artist, Danity King alum Aubrey O'Day joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 23 - Dawn
Listen to Amy and TJ Presents Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy Trial on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 23 - Dawn
Listen to Amy and TJ presents Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy trial on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 23 - Dawn
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, Danity King alum, Aubrey O'Day, joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 23 - Dawn
Listen to Amy and TJ presents Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy trial on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 23 - Dawn
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, platinum-selling artist, Danity King alum, Aubrey O'Day, joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 23 - Dawn
Listen to Amy and TJ Presents Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy Trial on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 17 - Ryan
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, platinum-selling artist, Danity King alum, Aubrey O'Day, joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 17 - Ryan
Listen to Amy and TJ Presents Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy Trial on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 17 - Ryan
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, platinum-selling artist, Danity King alum Aubrey O'Day joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 17 - Ryan
Listen to Amy and TJ Presents Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy Trial on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 27 - Abby
This is an iHeart Podcast. Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, Danity King alum, Aubrey O'Day, joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 27 - Abby
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, platinum-selling artist, Danity King alum Aubrey O'Day joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 27 - Abby
Listen to Amy and TJ Presents Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy Trial on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 27 - Abby
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, platinum-selling artist, Danity King alum Aubrey O'Day joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 27 - Abby
Listen to Amy and TJ Presents Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy Trial on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 27 - Abby
Listen to Amy and TJ presents Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy trial on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 27 - Abby
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, Danity King alum, Aubrey O'Day, joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: EP 27 - Abby
Listen to Amy and TJ presents Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy trial on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: RE-RELEASE: EP 10 - Torrah
Listen to Amy and TJ Presents Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy Trial on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: RE-RELEASE: EP 10 - Torrah
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, platinum-selling artist, Danity King alum Aubrey O'Day joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: RE-RELEASE: EP 10 - Torrah
Listen to Amy and TJ Presents Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy Trial on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: RE-RELEASE: EP 10 - Torrah
Listen to Amy and TJ presents Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy trial on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: RE-RELEASE: EP 10 - Torrah
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, Danity King alum, Aubrey O'Day, joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: RE-RELEASE: EP 10 - Torrah
Listen to Amy and TJ presents Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy trial on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: RE-RELEASE: EP 10 - Torrah
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, Danity King alum Aubrey O'Day joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Betrayal: Season 4
Betrayal Weekly: RE-RELEASE: EP 10 - Torrah
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, platinum-selling artist, Danity King alum Aubrey O'Day joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Betrayal: Season 4
Introducing the Burden of Guilt Docuseries
Listen to Amy and TJ presents Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy trial on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Betrayal: Season 4
Introducing the Burden of Guilt Docuseries
Be sure to check out Burden of Guilt right now on Paramount+. Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, Danity King alum Aubrey O'Day joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Betrayal: Season 4
Introducing the Burden of Guilt Docuseries
Listen to Amy and TJ Presents Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy Trial on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Betrayal: Season 4
Introducing the Burden of Guilt Docuseries
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, Danity King alum Aubrey O'Day joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.