Alex Gibney
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Yes. That was his suicide note. That was his suicide note. It was like, don't forget, look at Mike DeWine's emolument in this case. And people have. Nobody's come to any legal conclusion about it. But I think that was the message he was sending. But it's, you know, suicide is tricky. I say tricky. Suicide is tragic. And it's mysterious.
Yes. That was his suicide note. That was his suicide note. It was like, don't forget, look at Mike DeWine's emolument in this case. And people have. Nobody's come to any legal conclusion about it. But I think that was the message he was sending. But it's, you know, suicide is tricky. I say tricky. Suicide is tragic. And it's mysterious.
But at the same time, I think he was also clearly trying to send a message. I will tell you what.
But at the same time, I think he was also clearly trying to send a message. I will tell you what.
But at the same time, I think he was also clearly trying to send a message. I will tell you what.
Well... The question is, why are parts of HB6, which was the bill that they essentially bribed to get, still in operation? Some of it has been dialed down. They haven't repealed it, right? It's not been 100% repealed. And this is, I mean, just for the viewers who haven't seen it, I mean, this is the most bald-faced kind of bribe where executives from First Energy
Well... The question is, why are parts of HB6, which was the bill that they essentially bribed to get, still in operation? Some of it has been dialed down. They haven't repealed it, right? It's not been 100% repealed. And this is, I mean, just for the viewers who haven't seen it, I mean, this is the most bald-faced kind of bribe where executives from First Energy
Well... The question is, why are parts of HB6, which was the bill that they essentially bribed to get, still in operation? Some of it has been dialed down. They haven't repealed it, right? It's not been 100% repealed. And this is, I mean, just for the viewers who haven't seen it, I mean, this is the most bald-faced kind of bribe where executives from First Energy
dumped $60 million into a slush fund for the use by an Ohio politician named Larry Householder. He uses it first to get to be Speaker of the House in the Ohio legislature. He basically hacked the – what I would say is he used MAGA.
dumped $60 million into a slush fund for the use by an Ohio politician named Larry Householder. He uses it first to get to be Speaker of the House in the Ohio legislature. He basically hacked the – what I would say is he used MAGA.
dumped $60 million into a slush fund for the use by an Ohio politician named Larry Householder. He uses it first to get to be Speaker of the House in the Ohio legislature. He basically hacked the – what I would say is he used MAGA.
You did, but even more than that, in the few swing districts that there were, and Ohio is an extremely gerrymandered state, but in the few swing districts that there were, he used massive amounts of money to make sure that his GOP candidates got elected, and then they owed him. And they owed him big time, and he had a way that they could pay him back.
You did, but even more than that, in the few swing districts that there were, and Ohio is an extremely gerrymandered state, but in the few swing districts that there were, he used massive amounts of money to make sure that his GOP candidates got elected, and then they owed him. And they owed him big time, and he had a way that they could pay him back.
You did, but even more than that, in the few swing districts that there were, and Ohio is an extremely gerrymandered state, but in the few swing districts that there were, he used massive amounts of money to make sure that his GOP candidates got elected, and then they owed him. And they owed him big time, and he had a way that they could pay him back.
And that way was to pass this signature bill that was written by First Energy, okay? That was the quid pro quo. And the bill was... give us a one plus billion dollar subsidy for our failing energy company. So from the first energy executive standpoint, it's a good return on investment. You drop $60 million in Larry Householder's lap and you get back $1.3 billion.
And that way was to pass this signature bill that was written by First Energy, okay? That was the quid pro quo. And the bill was... give us a one plus billion dollar subsidy for our failing energy company. So from the first energy executive standpoint, it's a good return on investment. You drop $60 million in Larry Householder's lap and you get back $1.3 billion.
And that way was to pass this signature bill that was written by First Energy, okay? That was the quid pro quo. And the bill was... give us a one plus billion dollar subsidy for our failing energy company. So from the first energy executive standpoint, it's a good return on investment. You drop $60 million in Larry Householder's lap and you get back $1.3 billion.
But you get to keep your executive salaries. There was another scheme too, where they thought they could spin off part of the company that would earn them another $100 million. So it was just literally robbing the state. It was Sheriff of Nottingham stuff. It was like taking from the poor to give to the rich.
But you get to keep your executive salaries. There was another scheme too, where they thought they could spin off part of the company that would earn them another $100 million. So it was just literally robbing the state. It was Sheriff of Nottingham stuff. It was like taking from the poor to give to the rich.
But you get to keep your executive salaries. There was another scheme too, where they thought they could spin off part of the company that would earn them another $100 million. So it was just literally robbing the state. It was Sheriff of Nottingham stuff. It was like taking from the poor to give to the rich.