Alex Gibney

Right.

Yeah, but I don't think we really get it in terms of where it's got to at this point and exactly how it works. And so that's why and I had done this, you know, I'd been on this beat for a while. Some years ago, I did a film called Casino Jack in the United States of Money. And it was about disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff, who I give a sort of tip of the hat to in Ohio.

Yeah, but I don't think we really get it in terms of where it's got to at this point and exactly how it works. And so that's why and I had done this, you know, I'd been on this beat for a while. Some years ago, I did a film called Casino Jack in the United States of Money. And it was about disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff, who I give a sort of tip of the hat to in Ohio.

Yeah, but I don't think we really get it in terms of where it's got to at this point and exactly how it works. And so that's why and I had done this, you know, I'd been on this beat for a while. Some years ago, I did a film called Casino Jack in the United States of Money. And it was about disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff, who I give a sort of tip of the hat to in Ohio.

But that one was not that did not break through because people are like lobbyists, money. Yeah. What people need to understand is that we've created a system of legalized bribery. And I think most people don't really understand. Most people get emotionally the idea of a bribe and they're deeply offended by it. So if we replace campaign finance with legalized bribery. Now we're talking.

But that one was not that did not break through because people are like lobbyists, money. Yeah. What people need to understand is that we've created a system of legalized bribery. And I think most people don't really understand. Most people get emotionally the idea of a bribe and they're deeply offended by it. So if we replace campaign finance with legalized bribery. Now we're talking.

But that one was not that did not break through because people are like lobbyists, money. Yeah. What people need to understand is that we've created a system of legalized bribery. And I think most people don't really understand. Most people get emotionally the idea of a bribe and they're deeply offended by it. So if we replace campaign finance with legalized bribery. Now we're talking.

Now we're talking about true crime and we're talking about the real problem, which is a few people getting advantage over the rest of us. And they're the ones who are insisting that the policies work for them, not us.

Now we're talking about true crime and we're talking about the real problem, which is a few people getting advantage over the rest of us. And they're the ones who are insisting that the policies work for them, not us.

Now we're talking about true crime and we're talking about the real problem, which is a few people getting advantage over the rest of us. And they're the ones who are insisting that the policies work for them, not us.

That's right. And it starts with a death, a violent death by gunshot, originally possibly murdered, deemed by the police to be suicide. And indeed, I kind of envisioned that as sort of my... That was a nod to that movie Sunset Boulevard, where William Holden tells the story as he's floating in the pool after he's dead. And so Neil Clark, who's the crooked lobbyist who killed himself...

That's right. And it starts with a death, a violent death by gunshot, originally possibly murdered, deemed by the police to be suicide. And indeed, I kind of envisioned that as sort of my... That was a nod to that movie Sunset Boulevard, where William Holden tells the story as he's floating in the pool after he's dead. And so Neil Clark, who's the crooked lobbyist who killed himself...

That's right. And it starts with a death, a violent death by gunshot, originally possibly murdered, deemed by the police to be suicide. And indeed, I kind of envisioned that as sort of my... That was a nod to that movie Sunset Boulevard, where William Holden tells the story as he's floating in the pool after he's dead. And so Neil Clark, who's the crooked lobbyist who killed himself...

Kind of tells us the story.

Kind of tells us the story.

Kind of tells us the story.

Are you in the 80 percent, 90 percent? He killed himself. The telltale sign of, you know. Maybe the clue is. He's wearing a Mike DeWine T-shirt.

Are you in the 80 percent, 90 percent? He killed himself. The telltale sign of, you know. Maybe the clue is. He's wearing a Mike DeWine T-shirt.

Are you in the 80 percent, 90 percent? He killed himself. The telltale sign of, you know. Maybe the clue is. He's wearing a Mike DeWine T-shirt.

Yes. That was his suicide note. That was his suicide note. It was like, don't forget, look at Mike DeWine's emolument in this case. And people have. Nobody's come to any legal conclusion about it. But I think that was the message he was sending. But it's, you know, suicide is tricky. I say tricky. Suicide is tragic. And it's mysterious.