Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Master Audience Engagement and Create Content That Clicks | Presented by OpusClip | YAPCreator
Wed, 05 Feb 2025
If you’ve ever felt like your content just isn’t sticking, you might not be speaking your audience’s language. But figuring out what resonates isn’t a guessing game. There are real strategies to find what connects, cut what doesn’t, and adjust on the fly. In this episode of the YAPCreator Series, presented by OpusClip, Hala Taha breaks down why analyzing audience behavior is critical. She also shares powerful strategies to help you better understand your audience and their preferences so you can create content that captivates, converts, and keeps people coming back for more. In this episode, Hala will discuss: (00:00) Introduction (02:45) Understanding Your Audience (03:24) Neil Patel on Finding the Right Audience (07:29) Nick Loper on Turning an Audience into a Business (09:11) Creating Value-Based Content with Julie Solomon (14:33) Engaging Your Audience with Oz Perlman (18:19) Mastering YouTube with David Shands (23:25) Leveraging Data and Analytics (25:18) Ken Okazaki’s “Toilet Strategy” for Viral Videos (28:21) Adapting and Evolving Your Content (30:55) Using OpusClip for Viral Content Try OpusClip for FREE: Visit https://www.opus.pro/clipanything Resources Mentioned: YAP E226 with Neil Patel: https://youngandprofiting.co/4gqjng0 YAP E325 with Nick Loper: https://youngandprofiting.co/40MTrVM YAP E233 with Oz Pearlman: https://youngandprofiting.co/42DkUMt YAP E292 with Julie Solomon: https://youngandprofiting.co/4jJTpXp YAP E230 with Ken Okazaki: https://youngandprofiting.co/3Ervwnx Active Deals - youngandprofiting.com/deals Key YAP Links Reviews - ratethispodcast.com/yap Youtube - youtube.com/c/YoungandProfiting LinkedIn - linkedin.com/in/htaha Instagram - instagram.com/yapwithhala Social + Podcast Services: yapmedia.com Transcripts - youngandprofiting.com/episodes-new
Chapter 1: What strategies can help me understand my audience?
Hey, Young Improfiters, welcome to episode five of the Yap Creator Series presented by Opus Clip. In this series, we're diving deep into the art and science of content creation, how to create, connect, and thrive as a modern day content creator. Today, we're going deep into something that every content creator should master, understanding and adapting to audience preferences.
This is the heartbeat of effective content creation, the foundation of building a loyal, engaged community that feels connected to you and your brand. In this episode, I'll break down why analyzing audience behavior is so critical, and I'll give you actionable strategies to help you understand your audience and their preferences better.
We'll feature podcast guests like Ken Okazaki, Neil Patel, Julie Solomon, Oz Perlman, and I'll even share with you how we use audience insights at Gap to create content that's relevant and impactful. Let's get started. First things first, before you can forge a meaningful connection with an audience, you need to figure out who they are.
As a content creator, understanding the balance between a broad and niche audience is crucial for growing your engagement and your business. Broad content allows you to reach a wider audience and potentially increase views and revenue, while niche content creates deeper and more meaningful connections with a dedicated community. The key is finding the balance that works for you.
And whether you're marketing a product, a service, or just yourself, it's useful to start by thinking in terms of your TAM, or your Total Addressable Market. But just how big or small should you start? This is what Neil Patel, an expert on digital marketing, told me about how he approaches a potential audience.
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Chapter 2: How can I find the right audience for my content?
What makes a good audience market to me is a big TAM. So assuming you find something you're passionate about by just through trial and error, you got to make sure you're focusing on a big TAM. Everyone says the riches are in the niches. That's far from true. If you look at the majority of the large corporations out there like Tesla's automotive, right? People need cars in this world.
If you look at Microsoft, everyone needs software to run these computers and digital devices that we're on. If you look at Google, we're relying on search for anything. and someone organizing data and feeding it to us in a very organized fashion. If you look at Apple, we need all these hardware pieces that they're selling from headphones to cell phones to laptops, right? These are large markets.
If you look, again, look at the biggest companies in the world, they're going after large markets and not niches. So the key is to go after a big TAM.
Now you can start in a niche if you want, and there's nothing wrong with that, but you need to make sure that you can expand that niche into a large market because the amount of effort it takes to market a business, whether it's on LinkedIn or any social platform or even SEO, for a niche compared to a large market is almost the same amount of effort. Sure. It's harder in a large market.
Chapter 3: What is the importance of value-based content?
It takes longer to see results, but it's the same process in the same time and energy that you're putting into it. So might as well go after something big because it's very unrealistic to be in a niche and being like, you know what, I'm going to dominate this niche and gobble up a hundred percent of the market share. or even 20, 30%. That's very hard to do.
But on the flip side, it's easier to say, hey, I'm going to go after this multi-billion dollar market and I'm going to gobble up 0.1% of it, right? You gobble up even something small, that's enough money where you're generating millions of dollars where it's meaningful, right? For example, if it's a $10 billion market that you're going after, you gobble up 0.1%.
That's big enough to create an amazing life and a business.
So you're saying you need a big, sort of more broad market. You don't want to get too in the niches because they're really hard to find. That's like finding a needle in a haystack. When you're a marketer, you want to find your audience in mass. You want to target them in mass. That's how you're going to target them in the cheapest way, most effective way.
If you have to find like 10 people here, 10 people there, it's like you are just going to exhaust yourself and it's going to be very expensive. Yeah.
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Chapter 4: How can I engage my audience effectively?
Exactly right. You need to go after a big market so that way you don't have to have frequency issues of like, oh, I've shown my ad to 500 people. All right. How many more people can you show? Well, that's my only audience or even 10,000 people. It's not enough. You need to go after the masses.
Yeah. So I know that you have a formula for marketing that you talk about. Could you break that down for us?
So number one, go after a really big TAM. Once you have a big TAM, then if you want to do well, you need to take an omni-channel approach from LinkedIn to Facebook, to Instagram, to WhatsApp marketing, through text, through email marketing, to SEO, to paid advertising. It doesn't matter if you like paid ads on Facebook or not. If it's profitable, it's profitable. You got to keep leveraging it.
And then from there, you got to figure out how to add in the upsells and downsells, because if you look at marketing over time, it continually costs more and more. So you got to add in the upsells and downsells. In other words, build that funnel, figure out how to generate more revenue from that same customer.
And if they're buying more right at purchase, it allows you to spend more money on marketing as well as figure out a way to generate reoccurring revenues.
However broad or narrow you go with your potential audience and whatever channel you reach them through, remember that you are ultimately the one picking your audience. That's right, your audience is your choice. And building an audience is really its own kind of a business.
In fact, none other than Mr. Side Hustle himself, Nick Loper, shared with me how he now considers building an audience on channels like YouTube to be one of the most promising side hustles around. Something that I read of yours that I thought was really interesting is that you actually consider a side hustle being growing an audience, right? You call it an audience business.
So talk to us about why having an audience in itself can be a side hustle with multiple avenues.
Yeah, this is probably, you know, tier three, you know, tier one services, tier two products. Tier three is this really flexible hybrid, you know, content based business, audience based business where it could be a social following. It could be a blog following, a podcast following, a YouTube following. And. once you have people paying attention, like the entire playbook opens up. Yeah, sure.
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Chapter 5: What role does data and analytics play in content creation?
You could sell services, you could sell products, you could sell attention in the form of advertising or affiliate partnerships, but it really is a powerful place to play.
And that's really where I've spent the bulk of my side hustle and entrepreneurial time over the last 10 years to try and figure out how to get more traffic, how to get more listeners, how to get more email subscribers and plan in that space. Because yeah, The scale is almost infinite, right?
It takes, as you know, the same effort and energy and investment to create an episode, a podcast episode that 10 people listen to or 10,000 people listen to or 100,000 people. And so it's a really unique platform in that way. And the same thing with social content or video content.
Whatever content arena you decide to play in, it's not just enough to turn up and churn out content. Julie Solomon, who's the queen of influencer marketing and an expert on how to break through on platforms like Instagram, explains the critical distinction between simply creating content and producing content that genuinely drives results with your audience.
When it comes to Instagram, because that's really been my platform of choice since 2013. So I have been there through the ups and downs and the in-betweens. And I think that where most people get it wrong is that they get so lost in having to have to do it a certain way or trying to beat some kind of system or some kind of algorithm.
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Chapter 6: How can I adapt my content for better engagement?
Chapter 7: What is the 'Toilet Strategy' for viral videos?
It takes, as you know, the same effort and energy and investment to create an episode, a podcast episode that 10 people listen to or 10,000 people listen to or 100,000 people. And so it's a really unique platform in that way. And the same thing with social content or video content.
Whatever content arena you decide to play in, it's not just enough to turn up and churn out content. Julie Solomon, who's the queen of influencer marketing and an expert on how to break through on platforms like Instagram, explains the critical distinction between simply creating content and producing content that genuinely drives results with your audience.
When it comes to Instagram, because that's really been my platform of choice since 2013. So I have been there through the ups and downs and the in-betweens. And I think that where most people get it wrong is that they get so lost in having to have to do it a certain way or trying to beat some kind of system or some kind of algorithm.
And what I have noticed throughout a decade plus of supporting people on Instagram and coaching them in order to build a brand and visibility there is that, yes, it's important to understand things like hashtags and SEO and viral hooks and all of those kinds of things. But really, at the end of the day, it just comes down to, do you have value-based content
that is specifically talking to the person whose problem that you solve? And are you showing up as an authority and as someone that can educate them as being that solution provider as consistently as possible? And most of the time, people aren't doing that because they're so focused on these things that really just don't matter at the end of the day.
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Chapter 8: How do I use OpusClip for viral content creation?
You know, it doesn't... And that's why, Hala, you know, I have a lot of people that will come to me and it's... wild that they've got tens, if not hundreds of thousands of followers and they make no money. And I'm thinking, how do you have all this and you don't make money? And it's because maybe they figured out a way to go viral or maybe they figured out some kind of
you know, giveaway process to gain a following, or maybe they did some collabs, but because they weren't creating that value from the get-go, because they weren't thinking about, what do I specialize in? What is my offer? Why do I want to pick up this phone and post something every day? It's like they completely missed the boat.
And before they know it, they're three months in or three years in or 10 years in, and then they come to me and they're like, Julie, I don't understand how I've kind of been trying to grow and piece milling it together. And maybe I've gotten to a thousand followers and nothing's happening.
Or maybe I've gotten to a hundred thousand followers, but still nothing's happening because I'm not making any money. And so what's happening here? And so I think that for growth on Instagram, you really have to think about that through line. Are you just creating content just to create content? Because that is just a hobby.
Or are you actually creating content to solve a problem for somebody, to be of service to someone, to be a solution provider for someone? Because that's how you actually end up monetizing it. And those are two completely different focuses.
Totally agree with that. And also from a sponsorship perspective, it's also important to think of this. Because if you're just creating mindless content that's going viral, maybe you're reposting viral videos. And you've got this huge, broad audience, but nobody knows what you stand for. You're not the actual influencer. Your content went viral. You didn't necessarily go viral.
Your ideas and your products and services didn't necessarily go viral. It's just content, right? And so it's hard to get brand sponsorships when you actually are not an influencer and your content just went viral because there's no way to really describe your audience. It's hard for brands to understand who they're targeting exactly.
Yeah, I call those people cold creators that they are showing up to create content, but there is no warmth behind them focusing on building the know, like, and trust. And we even see this with a lot of massive influencers out there. You think about, you know, Charlie, I can't remember her last name, but she was on Dancing with the Stars. Her family had a reality show.
They went, her and her sisters went viral on TikTok. Yep. And now it's like, not only is there, all they talk about is how their mental health is just like all over the place. They can't show up. They can't be consistent. They're not happy. They're not fulfilled.
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