We’ve got a new type of episode for you. In this premiere “My Favorite People” ep, Trevor chats with his longtime friend (indeed one of his favorite people), Khaya Dlanga. Khaya’s a South African writer, commentator, and Youtube OG. No topic is off limits, and the two discuss the world around us, how Khaya manages to be the most online person he knows and at the same time one of the most present, and what makes a great politician. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: Who is Khaya Dlanga and what makes him special?
kaya danga one of my favorite human beings on the planet he's a writer social commentator social media superstar but most importantly and truly this is the most important he's my friend We've been friends for over 20 years now, and Kaya Lange is easily one of the smartest, funniest, and interesting human beings I know. And so I thought, why not have him on the show?
I mean, if you're going to have a podcast, you want to share the most interesting people, right? And that's what today's episode is all about. One of my favorite people in the entire world, Kaya Lange. I think you're going to enjoy him as much as I do, but bad news, he's my friend, so you can't have him. Oh, and that random South African voice you hear in the background?
That's Ryan, South African producer. Don't mind him, but really you should. This is What Now? with Trevor Noah. What happened to you, by the way? What was going on with your Uber driver?
Got into this Uber, started chatting, the guy's German, this German driver, so he's speaking, he's driving us. And like, oh, so start chatting, oh, where do you work? He works for, he is like an MD or something at Merrill Lynch. Wait, wait, what? I know. Your Uber driver? Our Uber driver. Like was or was? So he was currently at the time? At the time, yes.
Like a massive executive position, you know. And I was like, so I was like, dude, explain what's going on here. And he says, no, you know, when I come from Germany, I decide that in order for me to improve my English, I'm going to become an Uber driver. Oh, you're lying. Yeah, I'm going to become an Uber driver. And then I'm going to, please excuse my closer German accent.
I've actually never heard one before. This is really dope.
It sounds like a new character in the next Black Panther. They have a German character. There's a strength of the Black Panther.
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Chapter 2: How did Khaya Dlanga's driving adventures unfold?
So this guy, and that's what he does now. And in order to improve his English, And then he says, but what he also found was that he got to understand nuances about Americans. Because he was an Uber driver. Yeah, you could apply for his job. I was like, oh, wow. That was for me the most interesting. That actually makes sense. Very interesting.
I mean, I think there's an easier way to do it. But I mean, hey, man, kudos to him. Not many people... earn money from their English lessons. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, maybe. That's like a pretty slick way to do it. Yeah.
German efficiency. Yeah, it really is.
I always wanted to be an Uber driver. That was my dream. But you've been a taxi driver. True. Yeah. But I wanted to be an Uber driver. Why? So I love driving. You do. So, okay, here was the limitation.
So the limitation of being a taxi driver in South Africa is, and for those listening, if you don't understand, taxis in South Africa are different to taxis in most parts of the world in that here, when we say taxi, we mean like a mini bus that travels on a predetermined route. So for me, it felt a little restrictive. I couldn't turn wherever I wanted to turn. I couldn't like, you know what I mean?
I want to be free, Kaya. I want to be doing my thing, man. Like a taxi.
So I've always wanted to be- My Uber driver was free, but he wasn't taking me on. That's who I wanted to be.
I wanted to be the guy backing up on the highway. No, I don't know why. I always wanted to be like a- You know what it also is? Okay, I love driving. And I also like efficient driving. I don't know how to explain it, but I love the idea of getting people to the place they're supposed to be in the best way possible with the least stress possible. Oh, okay. You know?
Do you like driving? I love driving. One of my favorite things to do is to drive. It's quite far. So I really do enjoy driving from Joburg to the Eastern Cape. By myself.
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Chapter 3: What are Trevor's thoughts on the insurance industry?
This is the first time this guy drives.
So you even had the three accidents in half the amount of time? That's what you're saying? Basically. Okay.
I made up for it. So Kaya gets a Mercedes Benz C-Class. First car. Right? Yeah. Him and Olisa are driving. They're going to some party somewhere. Olisa's also got a brand new car, Mercedes Benz E-Class. Yeah, convertible. Convertible. Two of them driving together, having a good time. Music going, ladies loving the drive. Hey, hey, good time, good time. What happens?
Next thing, we just get a message in the group chat. Ah, guys, we had an accident. So like, who's we? Me and Kaya. And we're like, ah, but you guys are in different cars. He's like, exactly.
So it turns out Kaya drove straight into the back of 27. Oh, man.
what Kholisa always forgets to mention is the fact that he braked suddenly because he was there was someone in the passenger seat was directing him and she forgot to tell him no turn here so he braked like oh so he slammed the brakes he slammed the brakes but also like okay the car had dystronic what what oh your car yeah oh so you trusted the car to do the thing okay and it always did but the problem can I tell the problem one is that three days before it had said dystronic
Malfunctioning. Take it. I should go take it. And I was like, I'll take it. I'll take it tomorrow. I can save tomorrow. And then I had the accident.
So, yeah. And then did you take it? You know what I would have done if I was you? I would have taken it to the dealership and be like, guys, what happened here? I had the distronic on and it didn't stop.
That's what I would have done. Yeah. So those are my accidents.
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Chapter 4: How does Khaya Dlanga stay connected online while being present?
I feel like all, not all, I don't want to be broad. I feel like many businesses in America and then it's starting to go around the world. are now less focused on being a good business and more focused on making the money. Oh, 100%. And I know some people would say, yeah, but that's what business is. And I don't agree. I don't think that's what business should be.
I think it can be the byproduct of doing something well. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Even to what you're saying with Uber drivers and stuff, we love to blame the people who are delivering the food or driving us around, etc., But if we're honest about it, this is a byproduct of a company that's growing at an insanely rapid rate.
And so then what all these companies do is they slowly over time reduce the qualifications that people need to become a driver. So in the beginning, I remember when Uber started and all these things started, it was like, oh, you have to have this and your car has to be inspected in a certain way. Now you get into a car. And you're just like, yo, man, how did you get to me?
Exactly. No, but I mean... You know, I remember the first time. I don't know if anyone here remembers the first time they used an Uber app. Yeah. The first time? I remember the very first time. They were going to be launching Uber in South Africa and they invited me to the launch, which was nice. Okay, great. And then... Because they knew you weren't a driver.
No, I had a car. Okay, you were driving by this time. Yeah.
And so my car then happened like that week or two, you know, happened to go to a service or two to a service. And then I was like, ah, let me try this Uber thing. So I opened... And I was like, oh my goodness. It showed me the guy's face, the registration, the car, how far he is. This was revolutionary to me. I was like, this is incredible. And anyway, he arrived, he gets out of the car.
There's only Uber Blacks at the time. They used to open the door. And they used to open the door for you.
They had water and mints in the backseat.
And then they close the door for you. And I was like, this is incredible. I was so impressed by them. And to such an extent that I don't know if you know my friend Unzinga.
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Chapter 5: What was Khaya Dlanga's journey to YouTube stardom?
And he says, I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time when the United States is a service and information economy, when nearly all manufacturing industries have slipped away to other industries, when all some technological powers are in the hands of very few. and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues.
When the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or unknowledgeably question those in authority, when clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, We slide almost without noticing back into superstitious darkness. The dumbing down of America.
So this is not just about America. I think it's about the whole world, really. The dumbing down of America is most evident in the slow decay of substantive content and in the enormously influential media. The 30 second soundbite. Thank goodness your podcast is way longer than that.
now down to 10 seconds or less lowest common denominator programming credulous representations presentations or pseudoscience and superstitions but especially of a kind of celebration of ignorance so and he wrote this in 1995 so before we talk about the quote can I just say normally when people say there's a quote I love what they mean is like to be or not to be yeah it's normally like every dog has his day ha ha ha
That's what I thought the quote was going to be. This man just read us a chapter and said, you know, there's a quote that I love, guys. It's called Genesis from the Bible. It really was. Okay, this is what, like, maybe I never really understood this about you because you are a paradox. For a person who loves social media as much as you do,
you also love the antitheses of social media as much as you do. Do you know what I mean? Because you've written books and you read books, but you also have 15 hours of screen time
And that's terrible because I don't spend as much time reading as I used to. Oh, so it's affected you as well. Exactly. Because I don't read as much as I used to. And I don't think that like reading like Little Slippers is not, I don't, because it doesn't delve into the subject matter. And it's like, it's the same thing as watching something on TikTok where you get like, you know.
pseudo knowledge where you kind of suddenly feel like oh I'm well informed because well I found out that for the first time that actually the planets don't revolve in one you know it's an oval but I don't know why that happens but then you know I was worried when they said TikTok was going to be banned but I was happy because I thought you would like live a new life actually this year I am don't even finish that sentence you're going to lie
I am trying to be actively, to try and read more than I did.
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Chapter 6: How did Khaya Dlanga develop an interest in American politics?
Okay.
So when you say village, this is the village you mean. Yeah. So... He was a custodian of all the cattle, I'd say around maybe four or five villages around us. And so if anyone, like let's say Trevor, one of your cows gives birth, You had to come and report and say that my cow, so-and-so, is giving birth. And then my grandfather registered the cow. So he was the DMV of cows. Yes.
That's what he was. That's what he was. Yeah. Yeah. So he registered the cow.
Yeah.
If a cow died, you had to come and tell him.
Yeah. That's a write-off.
Yeah.
When your cows are wrecked, you have to report it to the government as well.
Yeah. Yeah. So he was this guy in the village. And so he has like this, you know...
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Chapter 7: What insights do Khaya and Trevor share about global greetings and culture?
Because there's actually, I've never experienced that in another country. I've never, ever experienced in a country where someone asked me for money and I don't have, and you know, now it's worse because we're cashless.
Yeah, yeah.
But I've never experienced that where I go, I don't have anything on me. Only in South Africa will a person say, I know it's fine. You know what? Maybe next time you'll... Good luck to you, my man.
Except for that. Except for that. I don't know. I think I mentioned this to you a few days ago. This tweet. Right. There's someone who tweeted about the wedding intersection.
Yeah.
intersection and the traffic lights weren't working. Or robots, traffic lights, they're not working. And the guy's directing traffic. And so it goes to the guy, you know, at the front of, you know, the guy in front.
Yeah.
And kind of ask him for money. And the guy says, sir, I don't have money. While the guy was talking, this homeless guy with his groundless fingers just put his fingers in this guy's... He put his fingers down this guy's ass. And this guy tweeted about this experience. And basically, he doesn't know what to do because this guy just freaking shoved his fingers down his ass.
Because I wasn't giving him money. I wasn't giving him money. Oh, that was like, yeah, that was, I mean, I mean, that never happens, but it happens once in a while, but it's my, it's my favorite, my favorite story. It's terrible. It's the favorite thing I've heard this year. What would you do? You know, it's one of those things where I'd...
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Chapter 8: How do Khaya and Trevor analyze Donald Trump's political stagecraft?
You could barely speak English.
Yes, because I'd learned to speak English two years before. But you were reading everything in English. Yes, I was reading everything in English. This is really insane to me. I was reading this. And then in high school, they had like Time Magazine and Newsweek. And then I'd read... So, okay, so you go to a new school.
Yeah, I go to a new school. Okay, got it. Okay, I see what happened here. So this... Moves from the village. Now you've learned English two years ago.
You're in an English school. They've got Time Magazine. They've got Time Magazine. They've got Newsweek. No Garfield. I used to read Garfield. Oh, you did? Because they had Garfield in the newspaper.
i like that you were like a this guy was a full-time adult part-time kid essentially and that's what i did and then um and then they'd have the you know news week and then politics i was like who's this bill clinton guy okay oh interesting and then i'd read about him and hillary clinton and george bush and and all of those guys i'm like oh ross perot And I'm like, wow, this is fascinating.
And so then that gets me like a lot, very interested in American history. And then I think what also got me into it was because the O.J. Simpson trial happened. And then I was fascinated. I could not wait for Newsweek or Time magazine every week. And I'd be there reading about the trial because they detailed information about this trial. You are 13 years old while this is happening. Yeah.
And so I'm reading this case, and I'll never forget, like, I got the highest mark for an oral in the history of the school thanks to this, for me reading, just randomly reading. And I'll tell you how this happened. So I had the O.J. Simpson trial was going to happen, and then he was acquitted.
And our teacher gives the entire class an assignment, and she says, okay, class, this is your subject, a controversial subject. Whatever you choose... Everybody does things. Abortion, it is. You know, all of those things, right? And then I go and I speak on, like, the following day, I'm the first one to speak, you know, in front of the class.
And I start off and I say, and I start off by reciting what the jury said, you know, at the beginning. It's like, we, the jury, find the defendant, Orenthal James Simpson, not guilty of the above entitled action, penal code, whatever, of the murder of Nicole Brown Simpson, a human being, right?
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