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Hi, everyone. Welcome back. This is part two of a two-part recap. If you're wondering where part one was, well, go check in the feed and be sure to subscribe so that way you always get your episodes. But enough of that. Let's get right back into the episode. So now we continue on. I don't like that you take a breath. You're like, oh God. Well, because I see what's happening next.
I am like, honestly, I'm not going to lie to the people here. This is torture for me.
Well, I think this is torture. You know, let's let's skip this pussy thing. I just don't care about Jenna's vagina hair. OK, I just do not care. We will skip that. So we see some clips. We see some fights between Uba and Brynn. The whole did you say she sucked dick or that she slept with someone for this job? Blah, blah, blah. So we come back.
And Andy's like, well, I want to start at the beginning of the trip. Raquel, you seem frustrated at the start. What was that? And she's like, well, watching it over now, I know the room was not, you know, you never would have fit, but you didn't even attempt to find a room. And it was like, oh, as a host, you should not take the master bedroom for yourself. Yes, you should. They all fucking do.
And when you get to a vacation, you need to make an effort to get your own room. People aren't going to just be like, oh, give Uba the best room because she's hot. Sorry. I'm sorry if your regular life works like that, but that is not how Housewives works, ma'am. If you're going to be on this show, you need to learn how to do it.
But I get everything because I'm hot. Of course, that's how I do. So, yeah, we talk about the room stuff here and assigning the rooms and all that fun stuff. And Andy's like, Uber, you had a lot to say about on the beach after Raquel took you to a visit. She's like, yes, I want to clarify things. I wasn't talking about the ocean.
I was talking about the sewage that goes into the ocean that is also in the ocean. And the fact that the ocean is sewage.
But you also said the water is disgusting. She goes, no, no, that's the thing. No, no, no. And he's like, but you said don't go swimming. The water is disgusting. And she's like, no, this one, this one. I was talking about your cat.
All I'm saying is if you are a hot person, don't go swimming. If you're not hot, go swimming. But hot people don't touch the sewage.
So Sai tries to stick up for her and she's like, well, she saw a dead bird and there was a little inlay. And she said, don't go put your feet in there. And Raquel's like, but everybody walks through that one inch of water, including Sai. And you decided to jump. I don't know why you couldn't just walk through the water. It's like, well, actually, I thought I was long enough, but I wasn't.
And she's like, okay, but then you told people not to go swimming in the ocean. She goes, no, yeah, but no, not people. I was talking about, you told Brynn. She goes, did I tell you not to go swim? Did I tell you? I love Uwe just flying off the handle over nothing. And Brynn's like, I don't remember. I'm in enough trouble. I'm not going to get in trouble for this too.
She's like, I'm not going to get dragged into Puerto Rico, into Puerto Rico drama. I'm not, I'm not going to get an island mad at me.
Ufa's just inability to take any responsibility or just fucking apologize. It's like, it's both frustrating, but it's also hilarious because she's getting herself so worked up. And she's like, you tell them, Brayden. She's like, no. And she goes, did I tell you to not swim? No, production, it's not true. It's not true. Production, production, tell them it's not true.
And then production rolls a clip of her literally going, don't swim. The water is disgusting. Can I tell you? Please.
She was saying that to lay an egg on you. She was saying that to the egg on you. And Bryn goes, I wasn't trying to egg you on. I said I was going to, I had to pee. And she goes, I'm going to go fucking die in the Hudson River like I care. I only apologize for ruining your childhood memory about the beach. Everyone thought it, but they were not going to tell you.
And so I was like, well, okay, look, here's the thing. Puerto Rico's been through a lot and we don't want people to see like Puerto Rico in a bad light. She goes, I didn't think of that. I love Puerto Rico. I go there all the time. So I was like, yeah, but it's a Puerto Rican. That's what we thought about.
Like, I don't want to discourage people from going there just because they think we have dirty beaches and things. And she's like, oh, well, they're going to miss out if they don't go to Puerto Rico. I had the best time there.
The best time. But don't go in the ocean. Do not go in the ocean. Also had the worst time. So Andy is like, all right, okay. So Jenna...
The shock on everybody, because they're just shell shocked, you know, because Uba is just a whirlwind. And so they're like, okay, she's just submit.
Jenna, let's talk about your vagina hair, vagina hair. We're just going to scroll through all the commentary there straight and long. And it's going through it in this situation. When did you realize your hair was this? It looks like, oh, it looks like Jessel's hair. All right. Well, Uba, the women on the trip in their interviews expressed worry and anxiety about About Jenna's hair. Just kidding.
We're talking about Jenna's hair still. No. They don't like the way you handle conflict. How does it feel knowing your friends avoid bringing certain topics up around you because they're worried about your reaction?
I apologize if my authenticity makes you so uncomfortable.
See, this is why Uba, okay, this is why I say Uba can continue on. Because like answers like that are hilarious to me. Again, Uba and Jessel, at the very least, Uba and Jessel. If you don't want to take Psy, fine. But Uba and Jessel, they can go forward in my book.
So he's like, but your reaction to the room, for example, the room situation. She goes, you know what? Continue being afraid of Uba. Great. They're afraid of me. Good for me.
Naomi wish. Giselle wish. I'm not afraid, but sometimes I don't want to deal with it.
It's really just long. Just, you know, just be angry in the shortest, in the shortest span of time.
Yeah. They say it takes a long time to have an argument with Uber. You know, she's like, oh, well, and Aaron goes, and this is my issue that I have. oh, well, you have an issue with everybody except for Naomi and Giselle. And Aaron's like, do you even know what I'm going to say? She goes, the issue did you have with everybody? She goes, well, because those are relationships.
That's not nice to say.
Oh, no, I don't like your tone. Is it her tone, Aaron, that you have a problem with me? Go ahead. Tell the truth. We don't have an issue. And she's like, well, it wouldn't be like negative if you just listen. I was just going to say like you assume things and then you get triggered, you know, but like you don't give me the benefit of the doubt. And that frustrates me because you're a fucking liar.
How many times does she have to tell you right to your face? You're a fucking liar and a shit starter, Aaron. That's why she doesn't trust you. She'd be a fucking moron to trust you. You do nothing but lie and try to stir and twist everything for no good reason. Brent number two. Brent number two.
So, Raquel, what is your reaction to being new to the group about people feeling like they don't want to make Uba upset because they're worried about her reaction?
She's like, well, I get it. I mean, when I went to speak with you about the beach and she goes, oh, I'm so happy everybody's afraid of me. Go ahead. Go ahead. And she's like, well, I mean, we came in to calm things down. And then you say, are the two Puerto Rican girls coming here to attack me? And she's like, well, I felt that way. I spoke how I felt.
I told you when they come to play, you will see. There was a dead pigeon. The end. Dead pigeon.
And he's like, well, that's not the point. We're talking about your friends censoring themselves because they are worried about your reaction. They should. They should. But that's not a healthy relationship. That's not a true friendship.
But that's not true, though. And he's like, but they've all expressed it. Okay, fine. I don't believe it. But go ahead. And Jess was like, well, I think it's how we communicate with Uber. You know, if we have an issue, I don't deal with it in a group setting. I call Uber and we talk it out. And Raquel's like, but I mean, if something happens in the moment, you have to have the conversation, right?
And she goes, you know what, Raquel, I wish I tell you I care. I don't care. I really don't.
All right. I want to go back to the conversation by the pool. Aaron, you told Jessel you're not part of the shit talking. Now that you've seen it, do you want to talk back that lie? And she's like, I mean, yeah, I was sitting there. I mean, I wasn't saying much. I was chiming in, but I wasn't offering information.
You were 100% shit talking that lady behind her back. And you've been mean to her all fucking seasons. So cut the crap. Two seasons, really. Yeah, it looked like you were a member of the conversation. And she's like, well, I was a member of the conversation, I guess. So I'm sorry. I mean, I felt like it was getting too much. So I said so.
And so I was like, yeah, she did say, you know, come on, guys, I feel bad. Yeah, that's what she says after she shit talk somebody for an entire season. That's what she just did it with Brynn. Oh, my God, you guys like no one is even talking to Brynn. I feel bad.
yeah and uber's like well you don't get a sticker for that and erin's like uber you won't give me a sticker for anything she literally won't give me a sticker so uber's like and you know what even make me more mad while i was watching you actually switched the entire conversation by saying her husband called you and she goes did you see it oh i saw it i saw it
aaron's like but do you have a problem because i have a lot of things that i'm not saying oh god that whole thing again oh my goodness scared so uba's like oh yeah well it's really fucking rude oh there's that tone again don't like it so aaron's like yeah so you want to assume and you want to find the worst of me and i don't understand i've been nothing but a good friend to you you
oh my god you serve up the worst you're like you're like a tray being passed of the worst and she's like well i've been a good friend to you and she goes nah because like you know if um whatever i'm not even gonna go so andy's like uba you left the dinner on night two and you said i don't know if brin slept with someone to get this job so i guess the question is why go there
She's like, because I was mad. He's like, but why go there knowing about the comment that was made on Jeff Lewis's show? She's like, well, I wasn't thinking of Jeff Lewis. I was mad. And it's a stupid thing to say. You know, remember last time last year I said, maybe you don't know how to be love or stand up for yourself. It was like that.
She's just bringing up the worst evidence against herself from years past.
Yeah. All right. Well, you said there was a big difference between saying you sucked a dick for a job and saying someone slept with someone for a job. What's the difference? And she's like, oh, well, you know, well, they're both really mad. Like, but to me, like, you know, you suck a dick to get the job.
But like, maybe I have a dick and maybe you have a dick and maybe we have a dick and like, you know, you suck dick to get job, you know, dick, dick, dick, dick, dick, you know, nothing like that. I mean, I'm hot. I'm hot. Can I just say, and in conclusion, I'm hot. And he's like,
You can look at me. You don't have to look confused. Look at me and I can tell you.
Andy does the thing where he cocks his head. He goes, he like swivels his head to the side really aggressively. And she goes, okay, don't look confused. Okay. I'm a hot person talking to you.
So she's like, was it the right thing to say? No. Do I regret it? Sure. You know, I'm sorry. Here, forever, afterlife, I'm very sorry. And never tell me who this person is because I might go to jail. And he goes, so do you accept her apology? And Brynn says, yeah. So he's like, okay, now about this accusation against Uber. Okay. Now, Brynn, before we get into this, we all believe you're assault.
So let's talk about this other lie. And she's like, okay. Well, I did tell her and it was the week before Bravo. She's still sticking to this that she told her. Now, the problem I have with this is we see a flashback to where Brynn is crying to the other ladies and she's saying. And the thing is, Uba saying this stuff to me when she knows that this is something I'm dealing with.
She knows that I've been raped and she knows that I'm going to group. She said something like I'm going to group meetings and I'm doing all of this stuff trying to deal with it. But that's not what you said. You said that you mentioned it very quickly in a sobbing fit on the phone and that maybe she missed it. When what you really said to the girls was she knows that I'm going to therapy.
She knows that I'm going to these group things. She fucking knows. So you're still fucking lying. You're coming on here and you're just lying again. And now you're sobbing. And now you're telling the same story you've been telling and you're giving the woe is me thing for the whole thing. You lied. You lied to a point where you could have ruined someone's fucking life.
And you're just going to sit there and continue to lie and cry and make yourself the victim. That's why I cannot with this woman. I can't.
I mean, here's the thing with Brynn is that like.
whether she told uba or not is almost immaterial because she she believes she did and i don't even know if i question if she believes like i i like this whole story could could actually be true it was like a word vomit it went by quickly uba like it just somehow uba missed it like that could be true i think where the issue is and this is what jenna says is that
is that Brynn hinges an entire thing. Like she makes it the crux of her argument. Like, why is it that what Uba said in the car was above and beyond bad is because she knew this about me and she's using it against me. Like she pretty much outright says that. And it's such a horrifying thing that like Uba would use it against her
that like everyone is massively upset and where Brynn is, it's like whether Brynn is lying about whether she told her is almost doesn't matter because all we do know what does come out is that Brynn isn't totally sure that Uba knows.
And therefore it's really shitty that Brynn would say it with authority on camera for America to see, but then off camera would be like, well, actually maybe she didn't know that. So that's what's so terrible about it.
and still unable to take any responsibility so she's going on and on and crying her tears and this and that and she's like but maybe she didn't hear me because i was rambling like a lunatic you know but i know i said it and i literally said like after that i was like in her defense you guys because despite what you think i am i'm always defending you uba
bullshit you just tried to fucking ruin her on TV and Aaron goes you didn't say that and she goes yeah I said in her defense maybe she didn't hear that because I was fucking incoherent and Aaron goes no I was there and you didn't say that and Cy goes I was there you didn't say it she goes you guys don't I'm like don't do you know what we're talking about right now be careful be careful you be careful you fucking compulsive liar
yeah like everyone there is like we all heard like you never said that like and i don't think anyone here is motivated to lie right now and and brian just keeps on digging in and she's like actually i was saying like in her defense in her defense you know whatever And I was rambling and dah, dah, dah, dah, dah.
And they're like, and then she said that, like, she says that everyone in the group was asking questions like, how rich was he? Who is this guy? And they're like, we never asked any of those questions. We never asked that. You're making stuff up again.
Yeah, she's doing the same thing to them that she was doing to Uba, where she's making it like, yeah, I just told these women I was assaulted and all they care about is how much money this guy had and was he hot? What? I mean...
the is your problem man and they're like no none of that happened and she goes nobody came and hugged me because we're in you just did what you did on national tv and then of course you waited for the cameras not to be there when you corrected the record and said maybe she didn't hear it of course so they're like no none of this happened so jenna's like i mean you told us that she might not have clocked it and that felt careless because we had just realized at that moment she goes yeah she starts fake crying she goes
uh what state i was in because i don't fall on the ground and scream or run to bathrooms and throw up and cause a scene and say you bitches just because i keep my together how are you keeping your together you weren't keeping your together she's like oh my god you're all holding me to this little accountable for every you're holding me accountable for every single word
Yeah, because they're destructive words. You should be. Well, especially because on this reunion, when you have Aaron saying like, oh, really? Now we're going to talk about tone, implying that we should be talking about words instead of tone or actions. And now it's like, wait, you're going to break down every single word?
but yeah these are like you said these are dangerous words and everything and brin's like maybe i wasn't angry i was hurt i didn't understand why why when you know she had when she had clocked when she had like made the cancer thing she was saying like you know she didn't realize you know when she said the thing about the cancer you know moms die of cancer she didn't like realize aaron was right there so maybe she was doing the same thing with me she didn't put two and two together but
That's why I went and told you guys.
This is also extremely unfair because when Uba said, you guys, you can't choose when you're you don't you don't get to choose if your mom gets cancer and dies. And Aaron made it about her because her mom is going through that. And I can see how she would be sensitive. But Uba's mom died from cancer.
Uba was talking about herself and the fact that Brynn knows that now and she's still coming on to the reunion being like, remember when Uba was so fucking insensitive and said mom with cancer? She had it going on in her own life. She's completely within her rights to say that. And you know that. So you're still coming on the camera and trying to make it sound like she was being a complete asshole.
Mm hmm. So Raquel's like, we were so angry at Uba and it was the three of us in the room because Brynn, you said, I can't believe she's saying these things to me. She knows I was raped. I told her I was raped. And Jess was like, yeah, the context of the conversation was, I cannot believe this.
And so Andy is like saying, yes, the context is hinging on the fact that she knew that and that like, then they were very upset with her on your behalf because she knew that information and she was being reckless with it. And so that's why they're mad at you, because now they find out that she might not have known that information.
It's so crazy how they have to explain to Brynn exactly what happened because she's completely deluded herself and is telling herself some different story and keeps trying to lie. And they have to explain to her like a baby what she did, what she said, why it was hurtful. And she still just sits there crying like it's everyone's being mean to her. It's time for a commercial.
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So then Jenna is like, oh, my God, I was so devastated. Oh, my God. She goes through her whole thing and how damaging this was to Uma, Uba. And Brynn's like, well, I'm sorry, but if I say something to somebody, I assume that they know it.
And Andy's like, let's go do your mind, Uba. I'm hot. Okay, what else? Do you remember the phone call before BravoCon? So she remembers it very clearly. And Uba starts to cry. And she's like, she never said it. Like, that's why when she told me, that's when I ran to you. I asked you. I said, I'm a human being. Maybe you told me. Maybe I don't know. I don't remember. Tell me.
When did you tell me that? Like, remind me. And you didn't. You looked at me and you didn't tell me. And that's when I realized it's not true. And you never told me.
And Brynn's like, when did you say remind me though? You never said that. She goes, in the corridor when I came to ask you. And she's like, Uba, you chased me down the hallway and you grabbed at me. She did not chase you down the hallway. You were already in a room with the door closed. So stop this shit. Like Uba's chasing you down. So she's like, I did not. And she goes, yes.
And so I was like, it's on camera. I mean, can they bring that back? And she's like, I walked towards you and I heard what you text her. And then we get a commercial break. And so we come back and she's like, you know, you said that you're worried about Uba. Do you remember when you said Uba is not okay? What did you text her? You said I was violent. And Erin's like, lock the door.
You said lock the door. And she goes, I was fucking violent towards you. And then we see the clip of that, of Uba losing her shit and coming to the door and saying, you're saying that I knew that you were raped, you fucking liar. I knew, I knew you were raped, you fucking psycho bitch. And slamming on the door. And so Brynn's like, they had to push me and put me in the room.
And she's like, I was violent.
Hmm. And so Aaron's like, okay, sit back, sit back. And she goes, since the day you met me, you want to discredit me. You want to hurt me. And she goes, let me tell you something. I always feel for you. Always like ask everyone, how many times do I stand up for you? And then everyone's like, yeah, Uber stands up for you all the time. And we're like, but that's why you were my first call.
And, um, so she was your first call when you were going through complete trauma and you turned it around and tried to ruin her ass over literally for no reason.
Sai is pretty direct here. She's like, Brynn, you weaponized your experience for the downfall of a friend. It is awful.
Watch your language. Watch your language. Shut up.
Just shut up. She's like, do not see the implications of these allegations. And Brynn's like, it would be an allegation if I'm still sitting here like, well, she knew and she did this on purpose. But then like three minutes later after saying it, I was like, in her defense, maybe she didn't clock it. Off camera. Yeah. Yeah.
You did the damage and then you tried to fix it off camera when it didn't count. So doesn't count.
Yeah. And and and, you know, Jessel's like, you know, something is not like you're making this sound so trivial. And Bryn's like, you don't have to tell me about this situation. It's a fucking trivial. And Jessel's like, no, but you're making it seem like that. And then Bryn's like, guys, it's getting to be too much. So then they're like, OK, all right, Bryn, all right.
So Uba does this thing where she's like, listen, it was very wrong what you did. But the good thing is, I forgive you. I'm not mad at you because I'm hot. We will never go back to what we were. I want to go back to a time when I didn't fucking know who you were. Like she rips into her in this moment and it's just so clean and so perfect. And I loved it. And she goes, we're not going back.
So then Andy's like, okay, well, what did you say to the other women, Brynn? You and Uba, I feel like are not going to get anywhere. And she's like, well, after all of it, no one called me. Like literally no one comforted me. Did you listen to what everybody just said? Even if you had to have you had to have it explained to you like a fucking two year old and you still don't get it.
So Aaron's like, cause Andy's like, what do you want to say to the other women? And when she says that, like, that was what she wanted to say. And Aaron is like, I reached out to you daily and then you blocked me. And Jenna's like, I reached out to you and you just didn't want to talk about it. You completely shut down. And then Brynn's like, yeah, well, sometimes people just like shut down.
Which was funny because she was just holding Rebecca to task about like, not like, Rebecca does not want to talk about her religion. And maybe she just, I'm not, this is totally different things. I'm not trying to say they're at the same level of what,
is going on here but the point is that like Brynn it's just funny what Brynn expects others to understand and to hold space for with her that she doesn't with other people well it's also not even about that because I'm not what you're saying I'm just saying as far as Brynn's saying she's like no one comforted me and she's crying you just said nobody comforted you but then we find out that you blocked Aaron and you wouldn't speak with Jenna and she's like yeah Jenna sometimes people shut down trauma
Okay, yeah, but you're the one accusing people of not reaching out. And they clearly did. Lying again. There you fucking go again. And she's like, yeah, I mean, I'm just saying we reached out. And Aaron's like, yeah, I wanted to talk to you. I kept saying, are you good? Are you good? Do you know the price of Bitcoin today? And Jenna's like, we were concerned. Yeah, we've just talked about you.
They're all just so concerned.
You know, I'm dealing with two things that no woman should have to deal with in life, which no one is arguing that she's a hundred percent correct. She goes, and you guys are like, well, you said one thing was different. And then you admitted that maybe you were confused the moment and you had a fucking horrible person and you're the worst person ever was.
And it was all this master plan to ruin people's lives. It's like, but no one's saying like, you're a terrible person because this happened to you and that you have trauma as a result of it. It's that like, In that moment, you went there, the reason when it was a petty fight with Uba, Uba was hitting below the belt saying like, oh, you slept with someone to get here.
And your defense of that was how could you, yes, but your defense, yes. And your defense was how could she say that about me when she knows this was my life experience, you went there with it. And then it turns out that actually she didn't know that. So it's like, that's what people are holding her to task. The audience knows this. I don't, we don't have to preach the audience about this.
It's just very frustrating the way that Brynn is interpreting it.
Brynn pokes and she pokes and she pokes and she pokes and she pokes and she pokes. And she finally gets a reaction and goes, but I've had trauma and you're being mean to me when I'm that trauma. You did this on purpose. You don't get to like sit here and cry trauma after you purposely got this person pissed off at you. She was one of the most frustrating people.
And this is the segment where everyone's like, no, we're standing strong against Brynn. And I was actually proud of the cast. I was like, wow, they're really standing strong. Now let's watch them all fucking folds.
Boo. Boo. So, um, everyone's like, I want everyone to stop lecturing me. So Andy says, he's like, okay, well at the end of the season, you said there were some ownership that you were looking for brand to take over the situation. Aaron, what is that? And Aaron's like, I just think that Uba didn't know. And I think that an apology, she should have an apology so we can just move forward.
So Brynn is like, I did say it. Like, did she know? Of course not. Of course not. I love Uba more than probably most anyone here. So I think that's why it hurts the most. And it just like fucking hurt to hear that. By the way, if you love Uba the most out of everyone, why were you on her ass the entire trip until Uba snapped? Why is that? Like, let's not forget.
You just said, Ronnie, that Brynn started this whole thing, which is true. That's not what you do to someone that you love, Brynn.
Yeah, just to try and make them lose their temper on TV. So you can call them an angry black woman, which we've seen you do multiple times now. So don't say how much you love this person. Fucking obnoxious. And she's losing it. We love each other. And I know she didn't mean it, but Uba loves me. And Uba would murder a person for me. Like, I would never hurt Uba on purpose.
So then Uba gets up after just telling Brynn. The only time we're going back to is the time before I knew your stupid ass. Now she gets up and she's hugging Brynn and saying, I'm sorry, I can't with this. Uba, listen, I'm on your side, but this is ridiculous. This goes beyond because this is going beyond like I forgive you as like a good Christian or whatever or Muslim or whatever.
Like we're supposed to forgive. So I'm going to forgive and move on with my life because it's better for me. This is a full on. I love you, Brynn. I love you. And I just don't. I can't. I can't be on the team either after this.
So they hug and Uba goes back to her seat and Andy's like, okay, we'll leave it right there. All right, let's take a break.
And then Brynn is like, you know, she's just saying, Brynn and Uba have this like moment where everyone's offset and, you know, Brynn is like, it's just like, it's like, I felt that way and I'm sorry, but you know me, you know me, you know I love you and you protect me with everything and everyone. And they're just like bonding and everyone else is in the, they're having this whole private moment.
And then Andy comes over and he's like, hey, sorry, I left my phone here. Okay, get back to it. So funny.
He can't go two minutes without that fucking phone. So this conversation just keeps going on. It's like, what is she doing over there? I mean, that's crazy. I mean, it's just very kind of Uba considering those allegations would have ruined her. And then we go back to Uba and Brynn saying how much they love each other. They're going to work on this.
And then we go to Cy and Jessel and they're, you know, they're just like giving Jenna credit for finally doing something on this show. And then back on the couch, Brennan and Uwe are still going on. I'm just skipping most of this Brennan and Uwe stuff. I can't. It's just repetitive. I love you. I love you. I forgive you. I forgive you. But I love you. But I love you.
And then the girls are just making small talk back in the dressing room. And then they start this in Jenna's dressing room. They start this. I really feel bad for her. I really feel bad for Brynn. And so I was like, yeah, I'm starting to feel bad for her, too. Well, she's just human, guys. She's just yeah, she's broken. You guys, she needs love and attention.
And all she's getting is like hurt people, hurt people. And that's just how it works, guys.
Yeah. And Uber's like, they really love you, Bryn. What you said is really hurting them. We'll get through this. And she goes, I don't know this time. She's like, sad, baby. And Uber's like, but with this haircut, you could. You could get through them with this haircut. She's like, maybe. So then in Jenna's dressing room, the producer's trying to take away Jenna's champagne.
And she's like, it's ginger ale. It's ginger ale.
And then Raquel and the producer says it's supposed to be a dry set. Go fuck yourself. Does anybody on this network know what show this is? This is the Real Housewives. What do you mean it's a dry set? No. Boo. Boo to this whole show. Cancel it. You know what? If there was any doubt in my mind, it has been erased after that one fucking line from a producer. That was probably Eric Fuller.
This is a dry set. Probably was. Get the fuck out of here. Do your job.
Raquel actually has a nice moment. I know we all are like, oh, don't cave in to Brynn. But if you're going to cave in, I thought this was a nice moment. She goes to Brynn's dressing room and she sort of grabs her by the shoulders. And she's like, look, I know what I... And she said, Brynn, I know what I said on camera was really hurtful. And my heart was broken for you. And we all love you.
And she's like crying. And she's like, we just all want us back together. We all really, really love you. It was like a moment of... I thought it was like actually a very lovely moment of tenderness from Raquel to someone who was very broken.
I don't. I think that it was a moment of Raquel following the leader as she's done this whole time. It's like if everybody's mad at Uba, she's mad at Uba. Then if everybody's mad at Brynn, she's mad at Brynn. Now everybody's going to forgive Brynn. So she's going to go in and apologize to Brynn and say like how sad she is. And they're just all sisters.
I think that she's kind of a follower at this point. And I didn't buy one second of that.
so then but you know that's me i mean honestly i don't care enough i don't care enough i thought it was a nice moment i'm not gonna die on a hill about it it was like nice nothing to argue with you about it i just no i know i'm not taking it that way i'm just saying like i'm just saying like this this was so frustrating this is a long episode it was
i hate to be a hater i hate being a hater on our show like i hate podcasting and not not being able to find like the the funny not being able to find the joy like i feel like our job is to even in the shittiest or most depressing or saddest episodes we find the humor we find the jokes like we make it funny and like we find the laughs and honestly i'm just like
um you know what it is it's we're so close the end of this wretched season that i've like you know you get it's like it's like when you get when you start to approach home and you kind of have to go to the bathroom and the closer you get to home the more you have to go to the bathroom anymore you're like oh my god oh my god it's like oh my god we're so close the end of this season i don't even want to find the funny i just want to put a pin in it and just be like and that was it for the season like bring out the pavlova stick your fork in it
And that was it. That's kind of where I'm at. There were some fun moments. There were some laughter. But overall, this was not a good season at all.
No, this show sucked. And I'm really glad it's ending and over because it is definitely time. But yeah, I'm not buying any of this. I would have preferred them to just be like they were before when they were very firm but still kind with Brynn. They weren't ripping her a new one or calling her a stupid slut or anything like that. I mean, they were being like...
listen this is why what you said was hurtful and they just stuck to their guns but now this whole like oh we love you brian i think it's coming from the whole like this is bravo and you know we've had some rough seasons and so now we are going to insist on everybody making up at the end because that's what they do now you know where it's like we're here to make up with each other and so i think they're like okay let's just all go make up with each other when you know that girl took no responsibility for
I just can't believe if if she had taken responsibility and said, yes, I was trying to hurt Uba and that was uncool of me, then OK. But the fact that she's still sitting there acting like she's the ultimate victim and everybody else is the abuser because they're they're having the gall to call her out because after she's gone through trauma is horrible.
ridiculous and I can't believe that they're all doing it it's just I was booing in my I think I think what it is like it's easy for us to be like oh my god I can't believe you caved in I think when you're sitting there in front of someone who is like broken and someone you know and they're just like you just see they're a broken person and and they're like in tatters like you can't help but feel like kind of bad for them and like I think that's just what happened I think that's just what happened because we don't have any stakes in it
I think where I'm coming from is I don't see her as broken at all. I see her as a compulsive, lying, evil person. So I think that's being broken. I don't see her crying any real tears. I think she's going to finish this and just perk right back up and come right back to life. And it's going to be like nothing ever happened. She will. It's going to go on, you know, but I think that's what's at all.
I think if you're a compulsive liar and you're manipulative, you are a broken person. And so they're seeing her not... They're seeing like, oh, she does this because something is broken inside of her. And they just... They go from being angry at it to just sort of compassionate.
Because I think they all know our lives will go on and we're going to thrive and we have a trajectory, but she's going to have to... Until she really deals with this. And it sounds like she's trying to deal with it, but... they know it's like, oh yeah, we could be mad at her, but we ultimately know like, like, like our lives will probably be okay going forward.
And hers is it's, it's, it's a tough path forward for her. So they just feel bad. And so like, for us, it's easy to be like, fuck, fuck them for going back to her. But I can imagine being in that room and you know, me, I'm a softy. Ultimately I talk a lot of shit, but I'm a softy. And if I were in that room, I'd be like, oh my God, Brent, I'm going to give you a hug. Not me.
I would have. I would know because that's just I'm. I've dealt with too many people like this in the past to where I just look at this as just I don't care. I don't see her as broke. I see her as a breaker, not a broken. You know, there comes a point where it's like you're just hurting everybody else. And I don't fall for this.
People hurt people, Rami.
Broken people break people. But how many people aren't hurt? How many people haven't gone through trauma? How many people aren't broken in so many ways? I don't like this mentality of, oh, my brokenness is more important than everybody else here. I mean, she's sitting here talking to Uba. God knows from her stories what this woman has gone through. She's not using that against people.
There's not a free card to use it. And the more that people do shit like that, it fills me with disgust. It really does. I hate it. So Andy's back with his final thoughts. Okay. Jenna, you were serving with glasses. Why'd you take them off? She's like, to quote Aaron, I feel bad. I feel bad. So.
Yeah. Um, so this continues for a very long final thoughts. Yes. It's over Pavlova. I mean, Pavlova people, goodness, bring in the Pavlova. Okay. There's more talk. There's more monologues. There's more of this. There's more of that. I got to improve myself. I want to be there. Like, I don't have a microphone. I feel bad for Jess. I feel that it's happened.
We've seen it a million times on this episode alone. Pavlova cue the Pavlova.
It's not just any Pavlova. This is Naomi Watts Pavlova.
Yeah, see, finally. Why do we drop that in there? Wait, all this time, Jenna's Pavlova was Naomi Watts' Pavlova? Why do you wait till the end of the season to tell us that? We could have had a whole episode on that. Like, that's the fun stuff, Roni.
What's going on with Naomi Watts? Is she just a Pavlova person now? Like, I don't know. I've got to look it up.
Is it a business? Naomi Watts Pavlova. What? Yeah. Where did this come from? Is that a famous vegan swan Pavlova? Disgusting. I don't even see anything about it. I'm not even a thing.
Pavlova. So, you know, now it ends with basically Brynn being a huge victim and everybody apologizing to Brynn somehow. And they eat a Pavlova and that's it. And when this show ended, I literally screamed Pavlova. Fuck off and die, so go fuck yourself. And I don't take it back. But I will say, you know, one of my hobbies is rage.
And I felt it coursing through me during this whole show and during this entire recap. So I get what you're saying, but I had fun.
No, I did not have fun with this episode. I didn't have fun watching it. And I always have fun talking to you, Ronnie, but this was a test. This was probably one of the hardest podcast episodes to do only because it was just, it was just, it just kept on going. It kept on going. We've covered boring ass episodes before, but this one really, this one I think broke me today.
This one took the pavlova. My meringue is cracked at the moment, but you didn't break this show, bro. This episode broke me. Okay. Just give me Jessel. Give me Jessel. Give me Uber. Um, somehow became someone who's pro side ditch the rest.
No. Well, we'll see. I have a feeling they're bringing back everybody. We heard that Rebecca's gone, but this whole, this, this whole thing was to save Ren at the end and I'll bet they bring them all back. I mean, it ended up getting record ratings for it. For it. I mean, it's still not great ratings, but really. We're all hate watching. SLC, which is their best show of the year in our minds.
So who knows? They follow the ratings. They follow the money. So they will probably bring it back. So Buck's Buttercup.
look dubai in my opinion had a terrible first season and then they had a hilarious and excellent second season now unfortunately no one watched it because they had a bad first season so i i do know that these shows can rebound so you know i'm just saying this season i didn't like and we'll go forward we'll see what happens next season but let's see what happens my pavlova is cracked
my pabloa is cracked i am done and i am over it okay i am done well i can't wait to come back and give you more shit for another entire year bring it on all right everybody thanks so much for being with us you can find videos of all our recaps over at patreon as well as our traders recaps and find tickets for the watch what happens live tour and replays of the golden crappies over at watch what happens.com we'll talk to you next time
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