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Apple's $500 billion 'politician' move

Mon, 24 Feb 2025

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Apple pledges to spend and hire big in the U.S. with eye on tariffs. (0:15) Domino's traffic disappoints. (2:50) Microsoft hits back on claim its capex spend goal is in doubt. (4:10) Show NotesFind top growth stocks in the small-cap spaceRobotaxi pure play WeRide lands key Beijing approvalEpisode transcripts: seekingalpha.com/wsb Sign up for our daily newsletter here and for full access to analyst ratings, stock quant scores, dividend grades, subscribe to Seeking Alpha Premium at seekingalpha.com/subscriptions.

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Chapter 1: What is Apple's $500 billion investment plan?

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Welcome to Seeking Alpha's Wall Street Lunch, our afternoon update on today's market action, news, and analysis. Good afternoon. Today is Monday, February 24th, and I'm your host, Kim Kahn. Our top story so far. Apple announced that it will invest more than $500 billion in the U.S. over the next four years, hiring about 20,000 people.

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Chapter 2: Why is there skepticism about Apple's investment announcement?

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The vast majority will be focused on R&D, silicon engineering, software development, and AI and machine learning. UBS analyst David Vogt who is a neutral rating on Apple, said the iPhone maker's supply chain and financial model raises doubts around the $500 billion announcement and number, which includes building a server factory in Houston.

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While the headline figure on the surface is a large number, we believe it lacks substance at this juncture based on history, he said. Vogt added that more than 40% of Apple's suppliers, who are responsible for roughly 98% of direct spending on materials, manufacturing, and assembling Apple products, are located in Taiwan or China. The U.S.

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supplier base accounts for just 10% of Apple's supply chain. The hiring of an additional 20,000 new employees would grow Apple's employee base by around 12% over the next five years. If the cost is around $250,000 per employee, that would raise Apple's operating expenses by just $5 billion per year.

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Chapter 3: How does Apple's move relate to U.S. politics and tariffs?

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Wedbush analyst Dan Ai said the announcement is not a sign that Apple is tweaking its China manufacturing build-out, but is more akin to a strategic move to get into President Trump's invest-in-the-U.S. theme.

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Cook continues to prove that he is 10% politician and 90% CEO, and times like this he will be using his strong ties globally to make sure it's smoother waters for Cupertino ahead despite the market's agita around Apple's growth initiatives with Trump heading down the tariff threat path. In today's trading, stocks are choppy following Friday's sell-off, and growth names have lost early gains.

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Chapter 4: What is the current state of the stock market and its drivers?

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The major averages are mixed, but fairly close to the flatline. Rates are also volatile. The 10-year Treasury yield is back around 4.4%, but has been in the green and the red today. Clark Bellin, CIO at Bellwether Wealth, says, Even though stocks posted their worst day of the year on Friday, the stock market still has been off to an impressive start so far in 2025.

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And if we see blowout earnings from NVIDIA and softer-than-expected inflation data, that could add upward momentum to stocks. Today, Wedbush analysts said NVIDIA is likely to offer up a clear beat and raise.

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The $325 billion of CapEx from the Magnificent Seven in 2025 is about a $100 billion increase year over year, and enterprise-driven demand is accelerating as more companies and governments, Project Stargate, head down the AI yellow brick road, they added.

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Chapter 5: How are tech giants influencing CapEx trends in 2025?

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We believe demand is far outstripping supply with Blackwell in the field, and after speaking with many enterprise AI customers, we have seen not one AI enterprise deployment slow down or change due to the deep-seek situation. Among active stocks, Domino's Pizza is under pressure with 4Q results below expectations, declining traffic at its U.S. restaurants weighed on sentiment.

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Chapter 6: Why did Domino's Pizza miss its Q4 expectations?

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While retail sales growth improved 4.4%, excluding foreign exchange, the increased traffic was less than Q4 2023 and was largely impacted by an anemic 2.3% improvement in the U.S. That's nearly half the growth rate the year prior. U.S. same-store sales increased by just 0.4% versus 2.8% in Q4 2023 and less than the 1.5% forecast.

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WeRide announced that it landed approval to launch its latest generation robo-taxi, the GXR, for fully unmanned paid ride-hailing services in Beijing.

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The company noted that GXR marks WeRide's second robo-taxi model to achieve fully driverless commercial operations in Beijing and is GXR's first large-scale commercial deployment in China, following a launch on the Uber platform in Abu Dhabi last December.

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And Jeffries analyst Randall Koenig upgraded Nike to buy from Hull, saying the brand remains strong and strategic missteps allowing the company to gain market share were not fatal.

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CEO Elliot Hill is tackling product distribution issues head-on, positioning the brand to again outgrow the market and take back lost share, Koenig said, adding that he expects a V-shaped margin EPS recovery in fiscal 2027, well ahead of the consensus estimates.

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In other news of note, Microsoft said last month it would spend $80 billion on data centers this year, with more than half of that in the U.S. But TD Cohen raised some questions about that in a note that said the company may be canceling some leases. Analyst Michael Elias said, "...our channel checks indicate that Microsoft has canceled leases in the U.S.

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totaling a couple hundred megawatts with at least two private data center operators." He noted that Microsoft has pulled back on the conversion of statement of qualifications to leases and has reallocated a considerable portion of its international spend to the U.S. When coupled with our prior channel checks, it points to a potential oversupply position for Microsoft.

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But Microsoft told Seeking Alpha, Thanks to the significant investments we have made up to this point, we are well positioned to meet our current and increasing customer demand. Last year alone, we added more capacity than any prior year in history. While we may strategically pace or adjust our infrastructure in some areas, we will continue to grow strongly in all regions.

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This allows us to invest and allocate resources to growth areas for our future. And in the Wall Street Research Corner, BMO capital market strategist Brian Belsky says the great outperformance of the high-profile stocks is likely to subside in the next few months.

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