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Building Success Through Struggle: Brandon Brittingham on Real Estate, Integrity, and Wealth - Champ Talk with Branden Hudson

Wed, 9 Apr 2025

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In episode 36 of Wake Up to Wealth, Brandon Brittingham joined Champ Talk with Branden Hudson to discuss his early struggles during the 2008 market crash, the hurdles of building a career without social media or digital marketing, and the key moments that defined his journey.Tune in for valuable advice and inspiration for anyone looking to thrive in the world of real estate. SOCIAL MEDIA LINKSBrandon BrittinghamInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/mailboxmoneyb/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/brandon.brittingham.1/Branden HudsonInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/sbymmaandfitness/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100009946059940LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/branden-hudson-a425326a/WEBSITESBrandon Brittingham: https://www.brandonsbrain.org/homeBranden Hudson: https://brandenhudson.com/branden-hudsonSBY MMA and Fitness: https://sbymmafitness.com/Champ Talk: https://www.youtube.com/@brandenhudson

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Chapter 1: What were Brandon's early struggles in real estate?

18.206 - 31.995 Branden Hudson

Welcome to Champ Talk with Brandon Hudson. I am your host, Brandon Hudson, and we are back with another episode. Real quick, guys, if you get value out of this episode, you like it, you know somebody that would, please like, comment, share, send it to them.

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32.675 - 48.829 Branden Hudson

Give us a rating or some sort of review so that we have an opportunity to kind of get in front of more people and let everybody see this because that's how we kind of get our visibility and get seen. This episode of Champ Talk with Brandon Hudson is brought to you by the Maryland and Delaware group of EXP Realty.

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49.389 - 70.166 Branden Hudson

Listen, if you guys are looking to get into real estate, looking to join EXP, join our team, doesn't matter if you're here locally or wherever, message me. Let's have a conversation. Love to kind of show you what we do and how we do it very well. That's a beautiful segue into my guest that I have the honor to bring on is Mr. Maryland Delaware Group himself, Brandon Brittingham.

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70.206 - 85.25 Branden Hudson

How are you doing, brother? Good, brother. Thank you. Thanks. I appreciate you inviting me on today. Absolutely. Real quick, not that most people listening don't know, but I'm going to give you a little quick introduction. Brandon has been in real estate for a little bit over 20 years. He's a

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Chapter 2: How did the 2008 market crash affect Brandon's career?

86.434 - 98.136 Branden Hudson

won all of the awards, been the, who is who, if you know him, if you look him up, got a, uh, top five, sometimes number one, sometimes number three podcast, you know, wake up the wealth, um, on Spotify, uh,

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99.822 - 102.183 Brandon Brittingham

Apple. It's on Spotify too, but Apple's the big play.

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102.323 - 118.928 Branden Hudson

Okay, Apple. Excuse me. All over the place, man. If you've seen the social media, you've seen my social media. We've been working together for almost five years now. That spawned from the last time I had him on Champ Talk, which was a totally different version of the both of us. And just the immense amount of...

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120.128 - 148.265 Branden Hudson

growth and and it's kind of one of them situations where like you know you're paying your dues you're paying your dues you're paying your dues you're paying dudes and all of a sudden that spick it just turns on and and just lights up and i think in the past five years at least from my perspective that's what i've really seen with where your growth is you know the impact you've had on the the country the the real estate industry and so forth so you know without getting into all that you can look up all that but that's kind of the introductory um of of who he is

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149.389 - 167.306 Branden Hudson

What I wanted to get you on here today was is talk about some of the stuff that like really pushed you to to do some of those things and and go so hard. You know, from the outside perspective, you know, they might see the they might see the videos. They might see the Lambo. They might see some of the jewels and all that stuff and think that real estate's easier.

167.346 - 169.387 Branden Hudson

Think that investing is easy and stuff like that.

169.407 - 170.889 Brandon Brittingham

Being an entrepreneur is easy.

171.109 - 188.581 Branden Hudson

Yeah. I want to go way back, right? Way back from when you first started. When you first started real estate, it was roughly around the 08 crash in that timeframe. And we didn't have social media. We didn't have any kind of digital marketing or anything like that. We had a phone book and a room.

189.321 - 195.986 Branden Hudson

What was it in those early days that pushed you to kind of make the choice into saying something's got to change in real estate?

Chapter 3: What lessons did Brandon learn about integrity?

1091.688 - 1098.412 Branden Hudson

But there was also, there was responsibilities that were left in your lap and there was, there was duties that left. And it was a battle. And then you went on to.

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1099.673 - 1128.382 Brandon Brittingham

Can I, let me say something on that. Man, I will tell you, man, I was having this, like it's now, it is so apparent to me. And like, this is millions of dollars, like millions. Like this is, if you're listening to this, like listen to what I'm about to say. Relationship capital is worth so much more than you trying to win on a deal or take. So I was left with a lot of responsibilities.

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1129.083 - 1137.595 Brandon Brittingham

We owned a bunch of real estate. We had a bunch of debt. Shit was really bad. I could have filed bankruptcy. I could have said, fuck you to the banks. I could have said, fuck you to people.

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1137.615 - 1139.918 Branden Hudson

Some of it wasn't even yours, to my understanding.

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1139.938 - 1168.198 Brandon Brittingham

And so I didn't, right? And it was the most expensive thing I've ever done is kept my word, right? Cost me the most fucking money of anything. But so now those relationships, right? I can borrow money from any bank. I can get any bank president on the phone. There's relationships that I formed in that where they saw my character of he's not running from the problem and everybody else is.

1168.899 - 1194.67 Brandon Brittingham

And he's not willing to go back on his word. And there's so many situations in life now where... I've done that over and over again where maybe I didn't get the better end of the deal because I stayed in integrity or I did what I said I was going to do. But in the long run, I fucking like 100x because that relationship paid me forever. Do you know what I mean? Absolutely.

1194.87 - 1212.197 Brandon Brittingham

And man, people fuck this up all the time. They're so short-sighted and they don't play the long game and they try to get into relationship and take and they don't understand. And me and you were talking about this the other day. Look, at the top of the mountain, there's only so much room. And look, we're already here, motherfucker.

1212.798 - 1237.506 Brandon Brittingham

And so you're trying to come up here and you want some fucking bullshit of stealing, lying, cheating, whatever. We're not going to let you in the club. Like, it's just not going to happen. And that's where people fuck up. They don't understand the relationship capital of what a long-term relationship can pay you and where you can grow and make money with people who you trust.

1237.646 - 1257.779 Brandon Brittingham

And look, somebody might be whatever at a company today. right? And you fuck them and they become the CEO or they become a CEO of somebody you got to do business with. Don't forget this. Or they become the gatekeeper of somebody. And here's the thing. You don't even think about it or it's off your radar. And then all, and it's happened so many times in my life.

Chapter 4: Why is relationship capital important in business?

1636.809 - 1665.651 Brandon Brittingham

It was fucking scary. It was wild. And again, so the cool thing about that, there's nothing cool about it. But going back to the thing I dealt with with Marshall is I had adopted that mentality of not being a victim. Do you know what I mean? And so as crazy as this sounds... The amount of clarity and focus I got out of that situation, dude, it made me a fucking monster.

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1665.671 - 1666.672 Branden Hudson

The Marshall situation?

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1666.852 - 1683.8 Brandon Brittingham

Well, the health situation. The health situation, yep. Because I had never, as human beings, I don't think we understand or grasp time very well. Meaning how much time you have, how much time I have.

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1683.88 - 1684.36 Branden Hudson

I'd agree to that.

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1684.38 - 1703.595 Brandon Brittingham

Right. So there's a clock running right now that you and I can't see. Right. And we don't know. Number might get called tomorrow. Might get called tonight. You know, it might be, we might live to a hundred. Do you know what I mean? And so I never understood why, time through that lens until I dealt with that.

1704.256 - 1729.275 Brandon Brittingham

And so I remember sitting, I was sitting in the hospital, you know, and, you know, number one, we didn't know if I was going to walk again. We didn't know if I was going to, just, it was a lot of, a lot of shit. And, um, It's a humbling experience when you're facing your own mortality. And I just remember being in the hospital and I just said, you know, I know I can get through this, number one.

1730.196 - 1746.566 Brandon Brittingham

But when I do, I'm going to fucking leave it on the field every day, right? I'm not going to hang out with motherfuckers I don't want to hang out with. I'm not going to do shit in my life I don't want to do. I'm going to live how I want. I'm going to enjoy my life on my terms. And I'm not going to, I am not going to waste time anymore.

1746.706 - 1768.261 Brandon Brittingham

And up until that point in my life, I didn't look at it through that lens. And again, that's why I'm not going to give you a second chance. I don't believe that I have time to, right? I believe my time is spent in walking in my purpose and doing and having relationships. I want to have a relationship with somebody like you versus some fuck motherfucker that's on some bullshit.

1769.002 - 1790.213 Brandon Brittingham

And so when you hear the, you know, you're only as strong as your mindset, that's real. Because they were like, you ain't getting out of here anytime soon. And I was like, well, what do I got to do to get out of here? And they're like, you got to walk from the back. Now, I couldn't physically walk. I had lost motor function. below my legs. Right. Yeah. Couldn't physically walk.

Chapter 5: What advice does Brandon give to new entrepreneurs?

1943.408 - 1961.378 Brandon Brittingham

And well, and the other thing, you know, I was super close to my grandparents. And I was like, dude, I damn sure ain't gonna die before my grandparents, right? Because that would devastate them. So mentally, like... I don't know to this day how I did it, but I walked the fuck up out of that hospital in a couple of days. Right.

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1962.058 - 1980.43 Brandon Brittingham

Um, and they still, to this day, don't, they were like, we don't understand. Like, we don't understand how you did this. And I was like, I don't give a fuck. You gave, you told me if I can walk, I'm out. I can walk. I'm out of this motherfucker. Cause, cause again, our medical system and look, don't get me wrong. They saved my life. Sure. Like, like there was a doctor.

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1980.45 - 1991.462 Brandon Brittingham

He unfortunately is not alive anymore. His name, uh, by the name of Dr. Iggy, he saved my fucking life. Right. He saved my life. And, uh, no question about it. He saved my life. And, um,

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1992.543 - 1997.107 Branden Hudson

The medical field is flawed, but it's also a necessary evil.

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1997.127 - 1998.969 Brandon Brittingham

There's some good people in it. Yeah, absolutely.

1998.989 - 2010.82 Branden Hudson

But what I'm hearing you say is your absolute mindset and the preparation leading up to that moment of saying, I'm not going to fucking die before my grandparents. I'm going to walk out of this fucking hospital. You willed yourself to heal.

2010.96 - 2016.165 Brandon Brittingham

And here's the thing. I was like, if I'm going to die, I don't want to die in this motherfucker. Fuck no. So let me the fuck out.

2016.445 - 2021.147 Branden Hudson

So that's an incredible story, dude. And what I, why I ask these questions, you know what I mean?

2021.187 - 2037.772 Branden Hudson

Because, you know, I know, and a lot of, you know, but everybody knows how successful you've become and you're on, on your way to, because you're, you're always climbing another mountain, you know, and, and these stories, you know, your friends, your family, people care and know you, they, they know about these stories. You know what I mean? But,

Chapter 6: How can one overcome the fear of failure?

2087.42 - 2101.115 Branden Hudson

But these things are where people, most people, most people in the quest to success, most people that want to be successful, they, they will use those moments to define them as why they can't. And you use those moments to define you as why you will.

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2101.796 - 2119.101 Branden Hudson

and you overcame the adversity, and all those moments prepared you to get into the next phase and the next season of your life and where that was going. And I want our people to hear how important it is that when you do have these moments, these fucking impossible odds, human beings are resilient as fuck.

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2119.461 - 2140.552 Branden Hudson

We can get through some impossible things, some incredible things with our minds and with our determination and the lack of victimhood, right? So that pushes us into the now, right? And one of the things that I really admire and I think is incredible about you, Brandon, is, and you know this, I've told you in your face, I don't give a fuck about your money.

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2141.113 - 2159.488 Branden Hudson

I don't give a fuck about the shit you do. I respect what you've accomplished, but the character, the human that you are, right? You know, I've told people when I was, you know, we did the podcast the last time and you have this ability to spot talent and you've said this on stage about me and you said, hey, I'm going to get this guy, I want this guy to work for our organization.

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2159.528 - 2179.8 Branden Hudson

And I didn't know nothing about it and here we are. And quickly I knew that your culture and that office was where I needed to be because it aligned with me and the things I was doing. I was already in the leadership space, but then for a solid year, I was like, this can't be, you know, most people aren't like this, right? Most people aren't who they say they are. There's always a hidden clause.

2179.82 - 2198.28 Branden Hudson

There's always something behind. I looked for the chink in your armor, looked at the chink in Rich's armor, your partner. I was waiting for, you know, the curtain to fall. And it never happened. And it, it just in that year, year and a half, I just, you got more buy-in for me and more buy-in for me. And the things you said, you know, applied and helped.

2198.3 - 2215.212 Branden Hudson

And there were so many great things come, but then someone who's been through the things that you've been through, right? You have this incredible ability to predict the future. You have this incredible ability to, um, be very efficient, right? And you have this incredible ability to connect pieces and people with relationship building and things like that.

2215.792 - 2235.716 Branden Hudson

There's a whole other side of you that I've seen that really is why I love you so much, man, is your heart. I've seen you do some incredible things. And I know you probably don't want me to talk about this, but you said everything was good to go. But I've seen you do some things, man, that no one has to fucking do when it comes to the people you care about. Yeah.

2235.936 - 2261.073 Brandon Brittingham

You know, you... Well, I think... To that, I think, again, a couple of things. We don't go out and talk about it because I think you do it because you care, not because you want the publicity. Absolutely. And I think it goes back to, again, as crazy as this sounds, having a near-death experience was one of the best things that ever happened to me.

Chapter 7: What role does customer service play in real estate?

2383.064 - 2408.283 Brandon Brittingham

And then the other thing too, back to the hospital thing, is I know this is going to sound fucking weird, but I was thinking when I was in the hospital, I was like, at the time, I was financially secure and I was in a good spot. But I was like, thinking one night, I'm like, man, what if tomorrow's my last day? I was like, I would trade everything just to have one more, right?

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2408.944 - 2430.451 Brandon Brittingham

And then I was thinking like, if someone came in and said... I can give you this drink to give you an extra day, but I'm not going to tell you what day you get back. Right. And then I go back to a day where I fucked around and wasted time and hung out with somebody I didn't want to do, you know, want to, or hang out with a fucking dipshit or, you know what I'm saying?

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2430.491 - 2450.245 Brandon Brittingham

Like, you know, and so then I started, I started, I just started looking at it through that lens and it's like, You don't know how much time you have. You don't know the people around you, how much time they have. So why, you know, why not let them know that you care about them and take care of them and then just leave it on the fucking field, man. Yeah.

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2450.405 - 2470.87 Brandon Brittingham

Like leave it on the field every day because, you know, I mean, I can say to you wholeheartedly, I want to live, I want to live a long life. But I'm at a point in my life where like a lot of the shit that I've wanted to do, I've accomplished it. I've taken care of the people around me I wanted to take care of. And I know I leave it on the field every day.

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2471.211 - 2474.575 Brandon Brittingham

And I mean, that's a pretty, that's peace of mind money can't buy.

2474.756 - 2495.822 Branden Hudson

Yes, sir. I wish we had an hour because, I mean, this feels like this podcast flew by, and I only think that we scratch the surface, but we don't. So I'd be remiss if I didn't, you know, ask a couple of quick questions. One of the questions I want to ask is because if you chose, and I don't mean to be in your business and put it out there, but if you chose... To not have to work.

2495.842 - 2511.865 Branden Hudson

Because you fucking still, every day, you're still the first one there, last one to leave. So guys and gals on our team, you hear me say that. Weekends, holidays. Weekends, holidays. You know, we met last Sunday. I mean, this is how you do it, right? You know your purpose. You know your space of genius. And you live it out.

2512.325 - 2520.133 Branden Hudson

But if you wanted to, and I'm not saying you could afford to live the life that you do today, but if you wanted to, you could choose not to work as hard as you do now.

2520.293 - 2522.696 Brandon Brittingham

Oh, 100%. I certainly could work a lot less.

Chapter 8: What is the significance of keeping your word?

2720.061 - 2741.631 Brandon Brittingham

You're going to be alienated. And then those motherfuckers going to ask you for a job. Do you know what I mean? And, um, if you want to do anything of any significance, um, You're just going to be misunderstood, man. And people are going to think you're crazy. They're going to say, if you're repeatedly being told your idea sucks, you probably own something. Do you know what I mean?

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2742.231 - 2763.279 Brandon Brittingham

And you should never let someone else's limitation of where they can't grow to affect your ability because that's just their own inadequacies projecting on you. And so I think part of it too is also the challenge of proving people wrong. Do you know what I mean? And, um, And I don't know.

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2763.359 - 2786.413 Brandon Brittingham

It's just, to me, it is coming from a poor family that didn't have anything, breaking the generational wealth curse of our family, and then just not having a ceiling. And it's like, well, what can we do next? How many more lives can we impact? How many more people can we make wealthy? How much more cool shit can we do? And that's the shit that is, that's what's exciting.

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2786.433 - 2787.814 Brandon Brittingham

That's what gets me up out of bed every day.

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2788.174 - 2811.907 Branden Hudson

It's awesome. That's awesome. That's a great answer, man. Wrapping up, you know, we would be foolish if we didn't put an elevator pitch or a shameless plug or some sort of, you know, we're on eXp now. Been with eXp for half a year, over half a year now. It's been a great venture. Maybe not even that long. September. And you're not even, you know, you're not even selling real estate.

2812.007 - 2817.191 Branden Hudson

Like a lot of people have the misconception that you're selling real estate. Like you're way beyond that, been beyond that for quite some time.

2817.251 - 2819.872 Brandon Brittingham

And by the way, if you are, there's nothing wrong with that. That's where I started.

2820.052 - 2838.545 Branden Hudson

Yeah. I mean, we're talking about two decades in the game. You know, we're talking about an innovator here, right? And where I'm getting at is, is now, you know, you're raising money. You're investing money. You're speaking on stages. You're coaching the best of the best. I witnessed this. People don't know and realize it around here, but I've watched and I see who the rooms that you speak in,

2839.246 - 2856.185 Branden Hudson

the people you're next to, the people you're coaching, you know, these are, other moguls and other people, real big people that are around you that are getting knowledge and stuff like that, that you provide. Um, but you're raising capital, you know what I mean? Constantly deploying capital constantly. We've got a lot of silos over there, you know, um, where can they find you?

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