Gaming Hosts Ryan and Josh are donning our armor, spending time in the pillory and building our potion empire as we break down all that is Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2. Yes, the title may give our thoughts away, but this is one gaming packed episode you can’t afford to miss! We discuss what makes this game so special, why it’s being equated to video game masterpieces like Red Dead Redemption 2 and The Witcher 3. Get ready for an incredible gaming packed episode as we talk all aspects of the game, who it might be for (and who it might not be for), plus a shocking leaderboard ranking! Thanks to our MYTHIC Supporters: Redletter, Ol’ Jake, Disratory and Gaius Connect with the show: Support us on Patreon: patreon.com/videogamerspod Join our Gaming Discord: https://discord.gg/Dsx2rgEEbz Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/videogamerspod/ Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/VideoGamersPod Subscribe to us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU12YOMnAQwqFZEdfXv9c3Q Visit us on the web: https://videogamerspod.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What are the initial impressions of Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2?
Hello fellow gamers and welcome to the Video Gamers Podcast. It's Bohemia, it's 1403, and Ryan has been in the pillory for his eighth time. I'm on the run from the law for sleeping in the wrong bed, and we've lost our dog. Things might sound rough, but man are we having a good time.
After a night in the bathhouses, we're clean, we're rested, and we're ready to dive into Kingdom Come Deliverance 2. But first, some introductions are in order. I am your host, Lord Josh. And joining me, he whined and whined about how dumb this game was at first, but I had to tell him he was late for recording to get him to stop playing now.
It's Ryan. Hey, hey, don't throw that at me. Listen, I didn't do it. It wasn't me. I swear. Is this how we're starting? Was that a peasant accent?
I'm just perpetually arrested in the, what is it called again? The pillory is what they call it.
I thought it was the stock. So I don't know the difference between stocks and pillory, but I was always under the assumption that those were the stocks.
I don't know what it is, but I grew to love it. It felt like home. I was there crying.
you grew to love being in the stock it's just it felt comfortable you know it's like kind of that that you know that home feeling okay yeah i mean i i don't know man they show a pretty gnarly scene with you being in the the pillory for like 24 hours and that looked rough to me man All right. Well, listen, we have a phenomenal show.
The long awaited kingdom come deliverance to deep dive is upon us, right? Yeah. We have been dying to talk about this game, man. Like legitimately we, we have said, dude, I can't wait to do this deep dive. Um, and it's finally time. We have been playing the heck out of this game. This game is a massive game. We're going to just start off with saying, like, I know I'm about 30 some odd hours in.
I think you're a little bit further in than me, Ryan. And I feel like we have just scratched the surface of
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Chapter 2: Do you need to play the first Kingdom Come: Deliverance?
I know that you and I were both very, very excited for this release, but it kind of came with a little bit of like, I don't know what to expect on this. And our hype meter is really high, but what if we get in here and it just sucks, Ryan? So were you hesitant kind of leading up to the release and jumping in for the first time?
I was. I would say that... I'm optimistically hesitant. I had good feelings, and I thought with what we've seen in the production and all the stuff leading up to the release of the game, I felt like it was in good hands and it was handled properly so that we were going to get, in turn, a game that was handled properly.
And, you know, it's one of those things where you're just never sure, you know, especially if you haven't played a first game in the series and then you got this huge big release and it's the second one. And like you said, do I need to play the first? Do we have to? You know, it's like, no, no, no, you'll be fine. Trust me.
And then it's like, okay, you know, and then you're going to, you're just going to kind of hop into this big title that's got a lot of hours involved. And it's like, does this make sense? And man, it just totally did.
Yeah, I will say it was kind of a nervous moment almost. I'm really excited for this. I really want a game to kind of grab me to really just be able to dive into. Yeah. But... A lot of people have said that Kingdom Come Deliverance, the first one, was kind of a niche game where it's like the combat was very difficult. It was different. It was a slow pace.
A lot of people called it a medieval simulator. And I don't like sim games, man. I want my games to be fantasy, sci-fi, action. I don't want to work in my video games. Right. And some of the stuff that I saw in like from, from previews of the first one, it was like, you're tilling the ground. You're taking a bag from one lady to the, to the next, you know, and delivering things.
And I just, there was a part of my brain that was like, I don't know if I'm going to like this dude. Yeah. Like I'm not a SIM guy. I think this, it might be a little bit too slow paced for me, but we'll see. I know I'm really excited, but man, it was, I also kind of ready to, to kind of be caught, uh, you know, in that like this game is just not for me kind of category as well.
So let's talk about that. We load up the game. We're super excited. You dive in. Let's just talk about the first I want to say, like maybe two hours, right? So this game, like I said, it does a good job of kind of leading you into the game, introducing you to the characters. So what were the first like two hours like for you before you got thrown in jail?
Because there's a there's a decent introduction There's some cut scenes. They're explaining the characters and that kind of thing. So what was that initial kind of first hour to two hours like for you?
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Chapter 3: What makes the gameplay unique in Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2?
It teaches you the mechanics of the game. I think they did a masterful job at keeping that interesting, because there's a lot going down. And they're kind of explaining some of the mechanics, how you sneak, how you run, how you can... you know, approach things and all these sorts of things and there's chaos happening. And it was very interesting in my opinion, but then the game starts.
And this is where I really started to go, I don't think I like this game, dude. And I know you kind of felt the same way though, right? Because you and I were chatting a little bit and you were just like, dude, I just keep getting thrown in jail. And I was just a wanted man in like two towns, little villages. Everywhere.
They hated me everywhere.
And they hated me and I didn't know what to do. You get dumped off. You're, you're naked. You're broke. You're alone. Nobody knows who you are. And you're just told to just go out and survive. Right. Like just, you know, find a thing. And we talked to the developers on this game. Shout out Andre. We love you, man. Best friend. Best friend. Yep.
So we talked to the devs on this and he gave us insight into this, which I thought was really interesting is he said people were struggling in the beginning of this game. So we put this beggar lady in the very first town where you kind of get dumped off that so that she can guide you and point you in the right direction. And we were like, oh, that makes a lot of sense because she does.
She says, hey, you should probably find some clothes. Also, you smell really bad. You should probably get cleaned up and things like that. But even with that direction, completely lost, dude. Why does everybody hate me? Everybody hates me because I stole some clothes and apparently somebody saw me. And so what... Was it like that for you?
Because I was very put off on this game for probably the first like past the tutorial for probably the first like two hours. I was like, dude, I don't like this.
It was, man, it was hard because it was one of those that the first opening part of it, I'm like really vibing with this game. I liked it. I liked the way they cut in the cinematics and they just sprinkled in just enough with the gameplay and the tutorial stuff. And then they just drop you in the wilderness with just a pair of shorts, basically.
You've got no shoes, no shirt, no nothing, and no service for sure.
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Chapter 4: How does immersion factor into the gaming experience?
Like people will walk by and they'll be like, oh, you stink. And I'm like, how do you know? And then it's like, I see myself and it's like, oh, I do stink. Yeah. Like that's this game, dude, is it's like you're in 1403 Bohemia. You are a guy that was like a bodyguard to a noble who has gotten lost. Nobody knows who you are. You have this very important quest.
We'll get into story here in a little bit. And then you were just in this town where nobody likes you. You have nothing, you have nothing. And it's like, how the heck do I survive? And I felt that dude, like that should be frustrating for anybody, right? Cause it's like, imagine if you were just homeless tomorrow, like, Probably be a pretty frustrating day for you.
And that's what I felt at the beginning of this game. But it's masterful design because as you get your clothes and as you get clean and as you start to do a little bit of work and it's like, dude, I got some Groschen. Groschen's like the gold in this game. Yeah. I got a few Groschen. I could buy like a dagger, you know, or something like that.
Like all of a sudden you kind of start puffing up and you're like, yeah, Henry, we've come a long way, buddy. And then, and then it just continues. And then you start traveling from one place to another. And there's a lot of walking in this game. The world is absolutely gorgeous, but guess what? In 1403, if you didn't have a horse and you needed to go from town a to town B, you're hoofing it, man.
And that might take a while. Yeah. And so the immersion in this game is absolutely top notch. It is second to none, in my opinion. I mean, every single time that I loaded into Kingdom Come Deliverance 2, I was living in Bohemia as Henry, getting myself into trouble, trying to help people. exploring the woods, you know, hunting boar or whatever the heck I was doing.
Like, honestly, I don't like, I'm going to put this up there. Immersion factor with like red dead redemption too. Yeah. Like, like honestly, when you play red dead redemption too, you are Arthur Morgan and you are living in the old West. You're galloping your horse through you're under the stars at night. Like dude, like everybody says it's the best cowboy simulator they've ever seen.
And Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 is the best medieval knight slash peasant simulator I've ever seen, dude.
Yeah, absolutely. It helps set the world. It's just so beautiful. They created just an awesome space to explore. Very similar, like you mentioned, to Red Dead, to where... Around every corner, there is potentially something that you can run into. There's someone around there. Even when you are fast traveling, there's always something that you can run into.
So they did create a world that is just alive. It feels alive. And I think that when you play it, it feels the same as well. So yeah, they did just such a stellar job on that aspect of this game.
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Chapter 5: What are the standout features of the quests in this game?
He's like, Hey, you know, if you want to do this and he kind of goes a little bit deeper and then you can decide. I go back to the town cause I'm going to play another prank on him. But then I'm like, dude, I'm kind of jiving with this guy more than that guy. So it's like, so you can tell them like, Hey, this guy is trying to prank you. And then now I'm playing both sides.
And it's like the quest system. That's when it really kind of dawned for me was like, dude, these quests in this game are absolutely phenomenal. They're multi, multi-layered. You can play them however you want to play them and approach them how you want to approach them. Um, there's another one early on with like the alchemist lady that you meet in the woods early on.
And then she, her daughter's missing. So you go on this big quest to find her daughter and then it gets dark. And it's like, then you're like uncovering crimes. And it's like, I'm trying to find clues to these crimes and stuff like that. And that for me was like the launch point where I was just like, Oh, baby. This game is going to be up there for me, man.
I have not played a game like this in a very long time. And this game is hitting like a game has not in a long time. And it's like you said, literally at work going like... I wonder what I could get into today where I'm going to solve that quest, you know, like that kind of thing while I'm at work just waiting to go home.
Where am I going to go? What am I going to do? Coincidentally, like that also, that stupid old lady is also what made me almost quit the game. I was going to rage quit.
I remember that, yeah.
Whenever we can talk about like bad things, just let me know because I got a lot to say. We're going to do that.
Don't worry. This game is not without, you know, its faults either, and we'll definitely talk about those as well. So... All right, so let's back it up just a little bit. What the heck do you actually do in this game, Ryan? Because people have heard us say, oh, you're a knight, it's a medieval simulator, you're Henry, it's hard to start off. But what do you do?
What is just an average gameplay session like, I guess, for people that aren't familiar with this game at all?
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Chapter 6: How does the open-world design affect gameplay?
Trying to shield, you know, block off another axe or a polearm or whatever it is kind of sucks. So, you know, it's not something you always want to do. If you're good at it, heck yeah. If not, you may avoid it. So I think it just ties into everything else, and I think they did a good job of that.
Yeah, I the combat system, I think, is a neat idea. And I think that the idea behind the combat system is you are not a ninja. You are not some superhuman guy to kill a sword 50 times kind of thing. If you're in heavy armor and you're fighting another guy in heavy armor, you're going to get gassed real fast.
And that that is part of this game is you're going to run out of stamina by just swinging the sword, you know, and then your guy's going to huff and puff and you kind of have to back off for a second. The directional attack thing is neat. I've seen it in some other games and it does make sense. It's not the most like thrilling combat in the world. It's very methodical almost.
But again, that's kind of how combat amongst people was. You know, it works. I think it's neat. I don't think it's a highlight of the game, but it's not so weird that I find it distracting either. And again, one of the things that the combat does is serves to show you that you are getting better and better just the longer that you are Henry. Because that first fight, you get your butt kicked.
Oh, yeah. And then you start learning. Okay, well, let me not just mash buttons. Let me think about the direction I'm attacking. Let me block this attack. oh man, this guy's probably better than me because he's coming at you really fast. And it's like, maybe I should just run away. You know, this guy's obviously a better fighter than me or something like that.
The combat does really work to kind of heighten encounters and things like that. Like at one point I had found a bandit camp in the woods and, you know, us old school gamers, we like to try to break games and figure out ways around it. And there was like five of these guys. You're not fighting five guys at once. Like, just plain and simple. Like, that's not going to happen.
But I use stealth because you can stealth in this game as well. And so I use stealth to kind of creep around one guy. I, you know, stab them in the back. You know, you can do the stealthy kills and stuff like that. And then that... one of his people realized he was missing and he starts looking for him. So I'm hiding in a bush.
And then it's like, I jump out and I stealth kill that guy before you knew it. I'm Sam Fisher. I took out the whole camp, you know? And then I got some really sweet loot out of it at the same time. So it was like, I was proud of myself, but that's, again, it's just one of those little things where it's like, you can kind of approach combat in the same way.
Um, so I, I, I think combat serviceable, it's a neat system. It's not like it's no, uh, It's no Dark Souls or Elden Ring for me.
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Chapter 7: What challenges did players face in the early game?
Yeah, they did. Oh, man. All right. So audio, honestly, audio second to none in this game. The voice acting is absolutely incredible. All the characters sound unique. You actually believe their emotions and their, it's just, it's, it's fantastic.
Even like the sound when you finally get your horse and you just, you know, you make the little horse sound and it's like every time and I'm like, Oh yeah, it's great, man. Like really, really well presented in this. Um, All right, so we're kind of running out of time a little bit on this. Let's talk about the wedding, right? And this is a little bit spoilery.
And again, the wedding is a huge event in this game because it is your, to not be too spoilery, it is how you think that you are going to go from being this unknown guy that nobody knows to being recognized, finding your buddy who is a lord. You guys are on this very important mission to deliver a letter to this lord
Two kings are fighting over territory that's kind of like civil war is about to break out. So you have this very important mission. You realize that the Lord is going to be at the wedding. And so if you can go to this wedding, you can probably meet the Lord. And then he'll realize who you are.
And now you're back to being the guard for this noble, who's also, I think, your best friend or something like that in the game. So this wedding is a really big event. I will say that I was very curious how they were going to pull this off. And they pulled it off masterfully, dude. I mean, you go to this town. You're in this Lord's Manor. There's people everywhere. People are getting drunk.
You're having to deal with this. You're doing these little mini side quests at the wedding to try to impress the Lord whose wedding you're at. You're doing all these crazy things. You've had to do all this work to even be able to get to the wedding. Things go a little south. I just, they absolutely nailed this event and how they made this event feel and the scope and the scale of it.
And then like how nothing quite goes the way you plan. And I just, I was blown away. I mean, what did you think about this?
I mean, I agree wholeheartedly. I think they did such a good job. I would... Our Discord, we always kind of preach our Discord. We've been talking about this game so much in the Discord. And a ton of people have been mentioning stuff. And our boy, Stalin Steve, he kept saying, he's like, do as many side quests as you can before you do the wedding. And I cannot echo that enough. Like...
Because it genuinely does make a difference because you have met all these people now from all these towns and villages around this world. They're all at this wedding. And so you're like, oh, I did this for them, this for them, this for that guy, and this for that guy and that girl. And so you have this kind of just group of people that you know, and it makes it so much more personable.
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Chapter 8: How does Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 compare to other games like The Witcher 3?
He's like, bugger off. He's like, to hell with you. You didn't want to help us. And I'm like, what are you talking about? We just killed a bunch of bandits. What are you doing? And so something as simple as that is when you do just a small mistake It's so punishing. It's very frustrating as a player.
I understand there's a lot of factors that go in, and it's maybe just a me thing, but to have something that simple to where you just did something so small and it'd be that punishing, that's really hard for me to take to when you lose an hour of gameplay or something like that because of that.
Yeah, I am with you 100%. I slept in the exact same wrong bed that you did, and I got arrested. And actually, at that point, I was like, screw this, dude. And I just tried to fight the guard instead, and then I got whooped because he's a guard. But thankfully, I had actually saved it right before then.
So one of the things that I will complain about, and again, this does fall into the immersion, so it's kind of a pro and a con, is that you cannot just quick save in this game.
And you know, you have to sleep in your bed to be able to save, or you have to brew these things called savior schnapps, which if you drink it, it kind of, it will save the game for you, but they're not the easiest thing in the world to brew. Initially. I get that later on, it gets a little bit easier to have these, but in the beginning, when you're really struggling, you can't say very often.
And I absolutely lost an hour and a half of gameplay because I had gone on this big, long quest and I didn't sleep and I died and, to something completely stupid, you know, and then I lost 90 minutes worth of gameplay. And I was like, dude, this sucks. Like, let me just save the game at that point. So the same system, I get it.
It's immersive in a way, and it definitely makes you consider your choices and you can't just save scrub when you're trying to rob somebody's house or pick somebody's pocket. So it really does make you question your choices. in the decisions that you make, but at the same time, it can absolutely lead to frustration.
We have heard a few stories from people where they were fast traveling after a long quest, just trying to get back to the town so that they could sleep in their bed. They got ambushed by bandits along the way they died and they lost an hour's worth of gameplay, you know, and that is just frustrating. There's no, there's no other way around it. It's just frustrating.
And there's, I don't, I don't, I don't understand it. I don't see the benefit in it. That's, that's developers. Yeah. And I know Andre's our best friend, but that's developers trying to tell you how you need to play their game. I'm going to play the game how I want to play. If I want to save scrub, let me save scrub. That's not for you to tell me that.
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