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Defense Department Leak, Mourning Francis, SCOTUS Considers Opting Out
22 Apr 2025
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth continues to find himself mired in controversy. Also — tributes have poured in from around the world remembering Pope Francis as a leader who advocated for the poor and the dispossessed, and the Supreme Court considers a case brought by parents who want to pull their kids out of public school classes because of objections to some learning materials. Want more comprehensive analysis of the most important news of the day, plus a little fun? Subscribe to the Up First newsletter.Today's episode of Up First was edited by Andrew Sussman, Ryland Barton, Krishnadev Calamur, Arezou Rezvani and Janaya Williams.It was produced by Ziad Buchh, Nia Dumas and Christopher Thomas.We get engineering support from Arthur Laurent. And our technical director is Carleigh Strange.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy
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That's a great sound. President Trump praised his defense secretary even as an official talked of a search for a replacement.
Pete Hicks has shared details of a forthcoming attack in a second group chat. Also, why did an official in his office quit and why were others fired?
I'm Leila Faudel, that's Steve Inskeep, and this is Up First from NPR News. Some people were in tears at St. Peter's Square. They put into words their appreciation for the late Pope Francis.
His concern for others and the world and trying to set an example.
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