
Jase, Al, and Zach give an update on Phil and Miss Kay, who continue to keep the spark of hope and love alive despite the challenges they—and the Robertson family—face. The guys reflect on the Christian view of the afterlife, and Jase shares a funny moment when he preached Phil’s own sermon back to him. Plus, a song on the radio from 38 years ago sends them into a deep dive of 80s nostalgia. In this episode: John 5, verses 1-18 “Unashamed” Episode 1067 is sponsored by: https://tomorrowclubs.org/unashamed — Bring hope to kids in some of the darkest corners of the world. Help us hit our goal of 1,200 new Tomorrow Clubs members this month! https://fastgrowingtrees.com/unashamed — Save up to half-off on select plants and when you use code UNASHAMED at checkout you’ll get an additional 15% off! https://puretalk.com/unashamed — Get 50% off your first month when you make the switch! Listen to Not Yet Now with Zach Dasher on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or anywhere you get podcasts. — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What updates do Jase, Al, and Zach share about Phil and Miss Kay?
I am unashamed. What about you?
Maybe that's your problem while you're going blind and you don't feel.
We had an interesting break. Boy, Darren, they're in between these two episodes.
Zach dropped a word that I was not familiar with. I had to look it up. It's still on my computer screen. It's called entropy. So then I read the definition, which I was more confused than when I started. Well, tell them the context of how I said it.
I think that'll help.
Well, I don't remember what you said.
You said we were talking about vision law. We were talking about age, and I said the one thing that none of us are going to escape is entropy.
Yeah, so you said that, and all of a sudden I thought, I can't escape something that I don't know what it is. So that's why I couldn't escape, because someone would say, you're struggling with entropy. I would say. What did you call it?
Well, it all started because Zach couldn't read the ads because he can't see now. And so Maddie, who's like 21 years old or whatever she is, she's 23 years old. She's like, just make a bigger font. She has no patience with our old man-isms. And so she's telling Zach, just make your font bigger. Read. And then Zach's stretching during the break in between. I was like, who stretches for a podcast?
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Chapter 2: How do the guys reflect on the concept of entropy?
We're going downhill. We go down. And we're doing this on purpose because it does kind of lead into what we're going to talk about today. It really does. But I'll read the definition for the people who listen to Jace's Redneck Logic. It is a lack of order or predictability, gradual decline into disorder. So the body... That's what happens.
Another way of saying it is that things tear up over time. Well, exactly. But you know what's interesting about this word entropy? The reason why I use it a lot is probably about 20 years ago when I got into apologetics, One of the writers I was reading about was using this. It's a scientific fact. I mean, it's a law of the universe.
It's actually the second law of thermodynamics, which is about heat and matter and thermo heat. But imagine the universe and every star in the universe is like a campfire. And with any campfire. If you sit around it long enough and you don't add wood to it, what happens to it? Burns out. It burns out. So that's entropy.
What it's trying to do is the campfire is trying to get to the same temperature as everything around it, which is called equilibrium. And so the philosophers looked at this and they said, you know, the past has to have a beginning. Like Genesis 1 has to be – the Christian philosophers have said this – The Genesis one has to be true because the past has to have a beginning.
It can't be like this eternal regression. There has to be a beginning to all this because of the second law of thermodynamics. Because given enough time, every fire in the universe will eventually burn out. But they're clearly not burned out because we still have the sun that gives us heat and a lot of other stars as well, which means that we haven't been here for an infinite amount of time.
Because if we had been, There wouldn't be any heat left. And so we actually can look at entropy as a tremendous example and evidence for the existence of the true claims of the Bible because it points to the fact that the universe began to exist. It hasn't always been here.
Do you want me to translate that for you? Yeah, can you translate that? No, I'm going to give you the translation for all the simple-minded people out there. Someone started the fire. That's number one. Yeah, that's it. Number two, there are humans who sit around a fire, and then there are humans that go get something to put on the fire. That would be my camp while you're sitting.
before you do some stretching so you can sit around the fire.
You're going to bring some duck and deer and something to roast over the fire.
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Chapter 3: What does Jase say about the importance of love and the spirit in difficult times?
Well, somebody sent that. Some listener sent that to give to my dad, and I'm grateful because he really likes that. It was like written in when he was – it was like 1970, I think. Yeah, it was like 40 years ago. It was because in his mind, he kind of went through a stage there where it was like 1970. So, yeah, and then what's the other thing?
The one that I should have suspected, but it was kind of the one that kind of hit me, was a glass of tea, a fun sweet tea. He's got all the essentials. He's got what he needs.
Well, I came in there a couple days ago and said – Just letting you know what today is, whatever. I read the date off my phone. And he was like, 2025? Are you kidding me? I was like, yeah, it's 2025. And so I did his speech that we've heard a thousand times. I said, look, it's 2025 years since Jesus was here on the earth. And he was like, hold it, hold it. And so he started laughing.
I said, what are you looking for, Phil? And he wouldn't say because he couldn't think of the name of what he was looking for, which turned out to be a pen. And he said, I need to write this down.
He told you that. That's good material.
So I started waiting. Well, he kept writing. I never looked at what he wrote, but I was scared to look. I just thought, you know, he's forgotten. He thought this is awesome. And I'm like, Phil, you've said this a thousand times. This was your stump speech. And so then I just thought, I'm going to keep going with this. I was like, you know what time it is in China?
And I said that, yeah, the same date. And he's like, hang on, hang on.
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Chapter 4: How do the guys talk about the impact of dementia and Alzheimer's on families?
What I love about that is dad recognized a good sermon when he hears one.
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Well, it kind of hit me in the moment. It's as frustrating as it is about them forgetting things and not being aware of their condition or their surroundings. You literally can tell any good news every day. And that they act like it's the first time they ever heard it. It's almost new every day. I think it's more a perspective.
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Chapter 5: What humorous moments arise during Phil’s conversation about writing notes?
What did he do when he introduced Jesus? He's like, in the beginning. Well, you remember the story of creation, and then God rested, and then they, as God's chosen nation,
observe the sabbath and it was like a day of rest and fulfillment and celebration and so he's gonna make that the sign that there's a new sabbath that he's introducing which a lot of people have missed yeah so you may read this yeah john five
And remember, this is coming off of the, I believe Jason's right on the money, because we talked about the temple, which if you look at it and you see this idea of the ultimate Jewish establishment, it's that. And now we're fixing to go into another sacred thing, and that's the Sabbath. So I think he's showing his authority, what he's conquering here.
And this sign that the Sabbath is pointing to, what Jesus gives you as far as the new Sabbath, I mean, it is a game changer. It's good. Now look, I'm not going to read the whole chapter, but what happens is this story triggered... resistance, and Jesus basically gives a sermon, and then he gives another sermon based on this.
So we're probably going to be able to cover all this, but I think it would be good for you to read the whole chapter.
Yeah. And get a feel for this. It's going to spark a lot of conversation from Jesus.
This is one place where you can't just read the first paragraph because he actually has little nuggets that he's going to get into based on what just happened. But we'll just introduce it today. So John 5, third sign. Here we go. Sometime later, Jesus went up to Jerusalem.
for one of the Jewish festivals, which is a key point because they all gathered up, meaning there were hundreds of people, if not thousands. Probably thousands. Now there is in Jerusalem near the Sheep Gate a pool, which in Aramaic is called Bethesda. Bethesda. I have a hard time saying that.
Well, there's a Bethsaida in here, too. That throws you off. Okay, yeah. Bethesda.
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