In this podcast, my guest is Dylan Jones, a TWC-certified expert trainer renowned for tackling cases where other dog trainers have struggled to achieve success. Dylan shares his experiences and explains why he thrives on taking on challenging dogs rather than opting for the easier cases. We delve into the common difficulties faced by new trainers entering the dog training industry, shedding light on the obstacles they often encounter. Dylan also offers valuable insights and guidance on various aspects of the profession, providing a wealth of practical advice for both aspiring and seasoned trainers.
Chapter 1: What challenges do dog trainers face?
I could like, I'm like, I know why he's looking at you like that. I know why, uh, he's compulsively wincing. When you move your hand, I know why he's staring at your pocket. I'm like, I like, I've seen all of this for years. And like I said, I was with them for three, three and a half years. And I started off on my own and it was maybe another year kind of doing my own thing that I applied to TWC.
So when you started on your own, man, this is like, I mean, you, you really, Like I don't even remember how I, what were exactly my steps, but this is not about me, so I'm not going to even think about it. But typically jumping into being, I can't even say the word, but to work for yourself, you know, most people are very scared to do that.
Yeah, well, it was interesting because at the time, I knew I was still small fish or whatever, but I'm just training pet dogs for general obedience. And there is something that goes into that, but the methods that I was taught by this company were so atrocious that that just by messing around and experimenting with things, I got much better, like very quickly, like very, very, very quickly.
So I didn't really have any intention of doing anything super challenging. I was like, I can teach dogs to come when called and, you know, sit at a crosswalk and kind of not being annoying in the house. Like those are things that I could, I can accomplish. And I know now I can do them much better, hopefully.
But at the time I was, I was pretty confident, naive probably, but, but definitely confident.
yeah i think the confidence is like if you don't have the confidence i mean eventually even even if it's just confidence without anything to back it up to begin with yeah confidence is super important the thing where it gets kind of rough
I had a lot of times where, I mean, it's, it's dog training. There's a lot of variables. Dogs are different. There are dogs. Even if you just go in saying, I'm going to do obedience, you get dogs with weird quirks and little behaviors that are kind of strange. I just didn't have anyone to call and be like, Hey man, have you ever seen this before?
So I'm just sort of like in the moment I'm looking at this dog, I'm like, I really hope you don't try to rip my throat out. And like, like, I just, I just didn't, didn't know. So it really was just like, I'm going to go bash my head off the wall and try to get as good as I can.
And when it comes to obedience and stuff, pretty much you, you would take that time, anything, or you were a little more picky because you, well, I guess you were confident. So were you taking anything that comes along or what, what, how did that go?
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Chapter 2: Why does Dylan prefer challenging dogs?
Right.
And, and this is the premises of where that that's like your baseline where everything starts.
Yeah. So we could probably go a long time on this. The thing that pops into my head immediately, if your dog is this hidden enemy that's just machinations and schemes and he wakes up every morning and he's just like, how do I get one over on dad? That is a very good and convenient justification for all of the busy work nonsense that trainers tell people to do.
So it's like, well, hey, what if I just have a week where I don't feel good and I can't do 45 minutes of healing comboed into duration down during dinner comboed into grandma's coming over, place, place, place, tap, tap, tap, play. What if I just like don't want to or can't do that?
Well, obviously your dog who is this supervillain, the second you drop your guard and you stop our structure, he's just going to destroy you. So it's a very convenient excuse to use really suppressive, and not necessarily heavy-handed every time, but just like, because you can suppress dogs very easily, force-free.
But if your dog is out to get you, then of course I need to have this dog trainer telling me, filling out my day of what to do with my dog. And people are astonished. They actually, a lot of the times, I don't think believe me, when I get people going, Hey, um, I just, I really would love to come shadow a day or maybe a week with you in a behavioral case.
And I'm like, well, I don't offer that, but I'm telling you, you would be bored. Like, well, no, there must be something. I'm like, dude, I hang out with the fucking dogs, man.
Right. Right.
Like we hang, we hang out. Oh, but like, I see he's on the couch with you. It's like, yeah, I don't, I don't care. Like that's, oh, but like people be like, man, I see that you're like letting the dog go out of the door before you. It's like, Yeah, my control over the dog is not conditional on him waiting at the door. I don't think he's waiting for me to make a mistake so that he can crush me.
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