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Today, Explained

How America went MAHA

29 Jan 2025

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RFK Jr. adviser Calley Means explains why so many Americans are suspicious of food and pharma companies, and what the HHS secretary nominee plans to do about it if he's confirmed. This episode was produced by Miles Bryan, edited by Jolie Myers, fact-checked by Laura Bullard and Avishay Artsy, engineered by Andrea Kristinsdottir and Rob Byers, and hosted by Noel King. Transcript at vox.com/today-explained-podcast Support Today, Explained by becoming a Vox Member today: http://www.vox.com/members Robert F. Kennedy Jr., President Trump's nominee for Secretary of Health and Human Services, testifies during his Senate Finance Committee confirmation hearing. Photo by Win McNamee/Getty Images. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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4.705 - 9.827 Calley Means

Nominee Robert Fluoride Kennedy Jr. went before the Senate today in fiery confirmation hearings.

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10.047 - 15.95 Unnamed Expert

Did you say Lyme disease is a highly likely militarily engineered bioweapon?

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16.39 - 25.294 Calley Means

I probably did say that. Kennedy makes two big arguments about our health, and the first is deeply divisive. He is skeptical of vaccines.

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25.674 - 29.856 Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

Well, I do believe that autism does come from vaccines.

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30.316 - 52.415 Calley Means

Science disagrees. The second argument is something that a lot of Americans, regardless of their politics, have concluded. He says our food system is serving us garbage and that garbage is making us sick. Coming up on today explained a confidant of Kennedy's, in fact, the man who helped facilitate his introduction to Donald Trump, on what the Make America Healthy Again movement wants.

60.066 - 75.133 Noel King

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75.493 - 89.16 Noel King

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96.653 - 117.787 Calley Means

You're listening to Today Explained. Callie Means is an informal advisor to RFK who went viral on Twitter about two years ago with this explosive claim. Callie had worked as a consultant for Coca-Cola, and he said that he'd witnessed Coke give millions of dollars to various groups to ensure that sugar taxes failed and that soda was included in food stamp funding.

118.066 - 131.193 Unnamed Expert

The NAACP took millions of dollars from Coca-Cola to say that we should maintain Coca-Cola on food stamps, which is just an absolutely insane public policy because that's literally poisoning lower-income kids with a supplemental nutrition assistance program.

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