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This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

E567 Hasan Piker

Fri, 07 Mar 2025

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Hasan Piker is a Twitch streamer and political commentator known for his leftist ideologies and reactions to current social issues.  Hasan Piker joins Theo to talk about Trump’s speech to congress, why he thinks no political party represents the workers of this country, and how he thinks America could use its immense wealth and power for good.  Hasan Piker: https://www.instagram.com/hasandpiker ------------------------------------------------ Tour Dates! https://theovon.com/tour New Merch: https://www.theovonstore.com ------------------------------------------------- Sponsored By: Celsius: Go to the Celsius Amazon store to check out all of their flavors. #CELSIUSBrandPartner #CELSIUSLiveFit  https://amzn.to/3HbAtPJ  BetterHelp: This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp — go to http://betterhelp.com/theo to get 10% off your first month. BlueChew: Go to http://bluechew.com and use code THEO to try your first month free - just pay $5 shipping.  Oracle: Go to http://oracle.com/theo to see if your company qualifies for this special offer.  ------------------------------------------------- Music: “Shine” by Bishop Gunn Bishop Gunn - Shine ------------------------------------------------ Submit your funny videos, TikToks, questions and topics you'd like to hear on the podcast to: [email protected] Hit the Hotline: 985-664-9503 Video Hotline for Theo Upload here: https://www.theovon.com/fan-upload Send mail to: This Past Weekend 1906 Glen Echo Rd PO Box #159359 Nashville, TN 37215 ------------------------------------------------ Find Theo: Website: https://theovon.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/theovon Facebook: https://facebook.com/theovon Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thispastweekend Twitter: https://twitter.com/theovon YouTube: https://youtube.com/theovon Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheoVonClips Shorts Channel: https://bit.ly/3ClUj8z ------------------------------------------------ Producer: Zach https://www.instagram.com/zachdpowers Producer: Nick https://www.instagram.com/realnickdavis/ Producer: Colin https://instagram.com/colin_reiner Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Chapter 1: Who is Hasan Piker and what does he do?

58.237 - 83.722 Theo Von

He's a leftist political commentator. You can see countless clips of him debating social issues and political topics. I admire his work ethic and his pursuit of information and communication. I am thankful today for his time and our conversation. Today's guest is Mr. Hassan Piker.

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84.322 - 101.437 Bishop Gunn (Music)

Hi. I love this.

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101.537 - 108.261 Hasan Piker

It feels like I made so many requests where I'm like, oh my God, I need to have my dog here, all this shit. No, dude, I'm just saying it's all stylish.

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108.281 - 110.722 Theo Von

You're like probably, yeah.

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111.123 - 140.431 Hasan Piker

This is the top. I mean, both are Japanese, I think, actually. Oh, yeah, that's what it is. Yeah, it's a Japanese brand called Color with a K. And the pants are Adidas Y3, Yoji Yamamoto collab. Damn. You don't fuck with fashion at all. I mean, yeah, I don't. I mean, you got a look, though. I mean, I don't like to have a lot of... Should we save this for the pod? That's normal. Oh, we're rolling?

140.451 - 148.076 Hasan Piker

Oh, okay. All right. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. My bad. That's why I didn't have it on the... That's why I didn't have it in my mouth because I thought we weren't filming yet.

150.097 - 169.485 Theo Von

Yeah, dude, that is style. That's... Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's definitely very stylish. My good friend Aaron, he started a company called John Elliott. Yeah. I feel like I've heard of that. Yeah. They have them, like, now in, like, in Nordstrom. And it's, like, a – they have, like, it over, like – I think it was, like, right after, like, G-Star kind of came out.

169.525 - 188.392 Theo Von

Like, G – I got into some G-Star for a little bit. Oh, you got some G-Star? That was, like, as, like, let me see what we're doing kind of as I got. I would like to have more fashion sometimes. I just don't know if I – I don't care. Well, you got to look. I get too overwhelmed. I like knowing like there's about 17 or 18 things that I wear that'll be okay.

188.732 - 200.036 Hasan Piker

Bro, you got to look. You can't be saying I need to get into fashion and you're making a deliberate choice to not have a mustache and grow a beard out. You think so? I feel like that's a look.

Chapter 2: How does Hasan Piker perceive the challenges of live streaming?

804.471 - 824.764 Hasan Piker

I'm talking like 2014, 2015 when he first was building out the Joe Rogan experience, right? Mm-hmm. Every other week, seemingly the media would yell at him over some shit that he said on his podcast. And he was like, we're having an honest discussion. It's three hours. It's back and forth. It's going to happen. Like things are going to get taken out of context.

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825.945 - 849.845 Hasan Piker

I think for Twitch streaming, that's tuned up to 11, where not only am I live, I'm talking about politics, which are, you know, I mean, I'm talking about some really crazy issues, hot button topics. And also, I'm doing that with a live audience who's constantly chirping at me in real time, trying to constantly piss me off.

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850.486 - 867.939 Hasan Piker

And then when they do successfully piss me off, they'll clip that shit and post it on Twitter, post it on Reddit, be like, call out post, call out post. This guy's bad. Look at what he said. And, you know, when you got like crazy dedicated haters, too, especially because you're doing politics in general, you're going to have a lot of crazy dedicated haters.

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869.419 - 889.386 Hasan Piker

They they just do you know, they just compile all of that to be like, this is a bad person over and over and over again. You'll see it in the in the comments section of this video. There will be a ton of people who are going to come in and be like, this guy is a bad dude. Like he said this, he said that because like. The major reason, obviously, for that is because I'm anti-Israel.

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889.426 - 907.773 Hasan Piker

Like, I'm pro-Palestine. I've been pro-Palestine for quite a while, and that really brings out the crazies. Does it really? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You haven't encountered this? I mean, you had Gabor Mate on. Yeah, we had Gabor Mate. We had a rabbi...

909.594 - 926.91 Theo Von

We had Bassem Youssef and we definitely have tried to like learn some about it. I think in the end for me, it just became like my feelings just tell me that it's, just messed up what's happened to those people. It's like, and that a lot of it was covered up by the media or they didn't want you to share certain information or you weren't allowed to.

927.21 - 943.101 Hasan Piker

No, for sure. I mean, that's how it's always been though. It's not just for Israel. It's just in general, like when it comes to American foreign policy, the American media is fairly one note. Our politicians are one note on it too. They're bipartisan on that. Right.

943.241 - 947.744 Theo Von

So when you say that, do you mean that they're all in on the same, it's all kind of the same ruse, do you mean?

948.064 - 971.881 Hasan Piker

Yeah, yeah. They all agree. It's always uniparty when it comes to American foreign policy, when it comes to giving money to Israel, when it comes to a lot of that stuff, like going to war with Iraq, right? You got the media also presenting that lie that they have chemical weapons, they have weapons of mass destruction, and uncritically reporting on that to justify going to war

Chapter 3: Why does Hasan believe media and political narratives are problematic?

1344.011 - 1351.095 Theo Von

You still see a lot of great, like there was a beautiful video. I'm not sure if it was AI or not, of them trying to celebrate Ramadan the other night in the rubble. Oh, the long table? Yeah.

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1351.195 - 1370.585 Hasan Piker

Yeah, I think that was real though. I don't think that was AI. I saw people taking photos of that. Yeah. I mean, also the other side of this is like the Gaza strip is, is like overwhelmingly children. Like we're talking like the average age is 14. People are on like 50 plus percent are, are minors.

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1371.225 - 1382.63 Theo Von

Well, that's, I think that's before October 7th, but like a year ago, people would be afraid to have, I think this Congress to, to, to people be afraid. Oh, for sure. Including us. Like I'd be afraid, I'd be afraid that,

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1382.85 - 1391.454 Hasan Piker

No, I mean, look, I've been actively and openly pro-Palestinian emancipation for the past decade, and I've seen a major attitude shift.

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1391.534 - 1392.955 Theo Von

You're like Turkish McLemore, dude.

1393.355 - 1402.22 Hasan Piker

Wait, what do you mean? Because he, yeah, he's been. When I was in third grade, I thought I was gay. Did he do that? That's what his song was.

1402.38 - 1406.242 Theo Von

Oh, well, dude, you got to be pretty, you have to have an open attitude to even think that way in third grade.

1407.022 - 1428.517 Theo Von

um but no he's just been he's been on a unabashedly afraid to share about Palestine you know yeah no he's had his heart changed I think his heart's in the right place like I think he's he's uh doing great he was from the beginning about I mean he was early on it yeah yeah not like 10 he hasn't been but since it became like a hot more of a hot button issue in the past three or four years for sure

1428.737 - 1444.181 Hasan Piker

Yeah. I mean, look, I'll never, I'll never discard allies. I'm, you know, that's an amazing thing to, to look at the situation with clarity, with moral clarity and just be like, listen, I didn't know enough about this. And now I've recognized the cruelty of, of what we are doing.

Chapter 4: What are Hasan's views on the American political system?

2259.35 - 2280.574 Hasan Piker

Oh, yeah, they could have produced way more. Right. So the point I was going to make is Brandon went back to Saudi Arabia. You know, he shook hands with MBS and was like, hey. Who did, Brandon? Brandon, Joe Brandon, Joe Biden. Oh, Joe Biden. Yeah, he went to Saudi Arabia. He was like, come on, Jack, you know, produce more oil. Come on, don't do it. And they were like, nope.

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2282.054 - 2307.394 Hasan Piker

The reason why I'm telling this convoluted story is because then we have American oil and gas industry providers, right? Like we have our own oil. Everybody always talks about how we have independence, like energy independence in America. So he went back to the American oil and gas industry and was like, all right, you guys have to produce more oil because you have to offset what OPEC is doing.

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2307.974 - 2320.418 Hasan Piker

And you know what they said? Fuck you. That's what they said. They rely, the oil and gas producers in this country, the fossil fuel industry gets 80% of our energy subsidies. It's like billions of dollars that they get.

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2320.698 - 2323.319 Theo Von

Subsidies means they get kickbacks from the government.

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2323.719 - 2341.629 Hasan Piker

Not even a kickback, like government collects taxes and then government gives these companies, whether they're in agriculture or whether they're in the oil and gas industry, they give money to these companies to keep prices relatively low, to keep up with the cost of the production. Right. They're like, hey, we're going to give you this money. So you keep prices low.

2342.409 - 2350.777 Theo Von

But in a time – Oh, because that company owns so much of the actual market of whatever that product is that if they wanted to adjust it, they could do it.

2350.977 - 2375.05 Hasan Piker

Yeah, exactly. I didn't even know that. And they didn't provide – they just didn't supply the federal government with more oil. Like they just did not – They did not produce more in the time to stabilize prices. And you got like the oil lobby guys going on CNBC and actively being like, we have a fiduciary responsibility to our shareholders to maximize profit.

2375.59 - 2381.752 Hasan Piker

We don't care if the you know, we don't care if the prices are high, you know, sucks to suck because our profits are great.

2382.552 - 2403.755 Hasan Piker

and the reason why i explained all this is because i think that's a perfect demonstration of how america operates like the american government operates rather where it serves corporations not the people and then you got china on the other hand where like it's you know they got billionaires too they got massive corporations too but those corporations serve the government

Chapter 5: Why does Hasan criticize US foreign policy and its impact?

2655.712 - 2680.476 Theo Von

You got to point – you have to approach people with something they can point a finger at and whatever they're pointing at is close enough where they feel like it can be reached. Yeah. Like those are things that it's like – But also, those are things, like, you label, like, Trump talked about them last night on some of the congressional address. I think it was the party address last night.

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2680.496 - 2698.549 Hasan Piker

Yeah, he did, like, a fake State of the Union. It was a joint congressional address. Joint congressional address. Yeah. Because he talked about some of those things, like DEI. Yeah, bro, they cut DEI. Now planes are fucking falling out of the sky, man. We need to bring Pete Buttigieg back as the transportation secretary. He needs to fix the problem. Was he a dog in there? No.

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2698.929 - 2705.951 Theo Von

We need black pilots. Dude, first of all, black people can jump better, so how are you not going to have a fucking black dude in a plane, bro?

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2706.191 - 2713.393 Hasan Piker

I don't know about the jumping. I don't know how they would factor into the pilot program.

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2714.273 - 2721.715 Theo Von

But still, dude, if I saw Michael Jordan in the cockpit, that bitch, we're going to stay up. That's how I'm feeling. Oh, 100%. Like, that's where I feel.

2721.896 - 2747.312 Hasan Piker

Now I think, you know, if I get on a plane and I see a white man, that dude better be in a polyamorous relationship, okay? I need that dude sucking dick, okay? No, dude. I need something. If he's straight and he's a straight white male, that plane is falling, dude. That's what's going on. Trump came in, he killed DEI every day. There's another fucking plane crash. What?

2747.592 - 2777.152 Hasan Piker

but is it white dudes doing it here's the thing i'm around it's not i'm not being serious even though even though republicans do think that that is real where they're like oh if there's a black woman pilot that's why planes are falling it's like no dumb ass it's because of capitalism like they've they've literally undercut every aspect of production to make more money they constantly outsource they constantly send certain aspects of manufacturing to to other countries where there's like less regulation and less restrictions that makes them more money

2778.112 - 2786.998 Hasan Piker

And that's why fucking planes are, you know, the doors are exploding and shit while they're flying. Is that one of the real reasons you think it's going on? That's 100% the reason why it's going on.

2787.079 - 2799.287 Theo Von

Bring it up. See if we can. That's a good question. Because there seems to be these little times in history where it's like, okay, for this year, it's almost like they press a plane trouble button. And it's like, oh, now there's plane trouble.

Chapter 6: How does Hasan explain the complexity of global politics?

2879.36 - 2886.722 Hasan Piker

Yeah, there was death. Oh, you just feel itchy. It's normal. Yeah. Keep drinking the water. It's fine that it's green. You know, shut up. But.

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2887.422 - 2913.493 Hasan Piker

uh because of that then everybody started focusing on all these derailments and they were like what the hell is going on and it's like there's a lot of that that happens all the time it's just the media doesn't pay attention to it because if you paid attention to it all the time you go crazy it's like crime right crime in big cities it's a constant oh yeah you know that is uh a buddy of mine was staying with me and he's from like the suburbs of portland right just like a very white neighborhood

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2914.313 - 2936.935 Hasan Piker

and i'm living i live in the middle of west hollywood and you know la is not like new york or whatever but it's still a city right every time he heard firecrackers or whatever like uh fireworks or whatever he would freak out he's like is that gunshots i'm like no man that's just fireworks like what are you talking about And then he would hear ambulances or police sirens, and he'd freak out.

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2937.296 - 2954.911 Hasan Piker

Because if you live in a suburb and you hear police sirens, yeah, something crazy happened, right? But if you live in a city, you hear it all the time, this background noise, because you know there's always shit happening. There's tens of millions of people around. So how are you saying that relates to this? What I mean by that is,

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2956.753 - 2977.804 Hasan Piker

if you pay attention to it with apps like, you know, next door and citizen and ring and all this stuff, you start realizing that like it's happening all the time and it makes you go crazy. Uh, same with train derailment, same with plane, uh, you know, plane crashes and whatnot. There are, there are normal part of this process and you got to look at the data and, and,

2978.524 - 2996.088 Hasan Piker

Try to figure out if this is like truly unique or not. And in terms of the plane crashes, the deadly nature of some of them is unique. There have been some big ones, right? Like with the Ronald Reagan Airport one. But outside of that, like, you know, minor bumps at the Seattle airport or whatever, like that's normal.

2996.528 - 3012.658 Theo Von

You had a couple of them where it's like these planes almost hit each other. They would show you a video and I watched one of them two times. I'm like, I didn't, that shouldn't even look close to me. They're like, but they just label it that way. It's definitely kind of fascinating. Then once something happens, you start to hyper focus on it more. This episode is sponsored by better help.

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Chapter 7: What is the significance of the US-Israel relationship according to Hasan?

3580.74 - 3605.692 Hasan Piker

Yeah, it was done for the people because it was a necessary... It was basically necessary for them to do this at the time because of all of the deregulation in the banking side with oil barons and all these robber barons basically picking apart... and dominating everyday American existence and the economic collapse that came with that. And then someone had to come in and fix this shit.

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3606.112 - 3628.445 Hasan Piker

And I think Donald Trump is basically not doing the FDR thing, but the reverse. He's fucking it up and taking it back to like a pre-New Deal era. And giving it more towards corporations, you think? Oh, 100%. I mean, you got Elon Musk right there. He's the richest guy on the planet. He's just... Putting his dick through his weird, ugly, egg-shaped penis through every single regulatory agency.

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3628.705 - 3636.288 Hasan Piker

Have people seen his penis? I haven't seen that. I don't know. I don't see that kind of stuff. Yeah, they were saying he's got a weird dick. Really? I believe it.

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3636.308 - 3657.035 Theo Von

First of all, yeah. Dude, if I'm Elon Musk, I'm definitely getting a crazy dick. I'm getting a fucking designer dick. I'm getting a two-seater. I'll get a damn three-seater cock. Yeah, they're saying – I'll put suicide doors on my – if I'm Elon Musk. But here's what I would say is to kind of the thing about Elon is like – or just to discuss it really.

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3659.316 - 3677.743 Theo Von

I think people are like, we don't give a fuck who's auditing this thing. And finally, there's like, oh, this is the person to audit. This is the person that's going to audit. This is somebody we can blame if something fucks up. This is somebody that at least they're saying that they're going to audit the government. Like – Why do we even have to audit our own government?

3678.784 - 3695.715 Hasan Piker

See, that's the problem. We already have an auditing agency. So these guys unironically created an additional agency, which is redundant, to eliminate redundancy. That's interesting. The unfortunate side of this is that... they don't know what the fuck they're doing.

3696.216 - 3715.842 Hasan Piker

So they go in and they just like pull data and they basically make these public declarations about, you know, a billion dollars is going to this or that. Like they, they straight up lied. They were like, Oh yeah, we already cut like $200 billion of funds. And then like the New York times and all these other like actual investigative reporters went in, looked at the data and they were like,

3716.522 - 3731.689 Hasan Piker

Dude, that's a lot. Like, there's one instance where they claimed that they cut $8 billion, and they actually cut $8 million. Like, how do you carry over so many goddamn zeros? They're just like, ah, fuck it. Who cares? No one will fact check it. No one will look it up.

3731.749 - 3751.899 Theo Von

Well, the crazy thing is, though, now you have whoever our original auditing system was, and then you have this second, and now we have this second auditing system. But, dude, it goes to, like, It's so like I'll have a I'll have a financial like an investment banker. Right.

Chapter 8: Why does Hasan advocate for systemic change in the US government?

4657.487 - 4675.389 Hasan Piker

than other countries that we fucked up, like Chile. We fucked up Chile. We did a coup there. We set up a dictatorship in Chile. And they still were able to unionize more than us. Yeah, and we rewrote their constitution. And they still have a higher union participation rate than we do. They have 15% in Chile. We have 10%.

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4677.43 - 4681.013 Theo Von

We have the Teamsters president, one of the Teamsters union presidents on.

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4681.133 - 4688.517 Hasan Piker

Oh, yeah. You have Sean O'Brien? Yeah. He was interesting. I've interviewed him before. I've had some convos on him. He has a podcast now.

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4688.757 - 4705.069 Theo Von

Oh, he does? Yeah. I didn't know that. I saw him at the inauguration. It's just interesting. I'd never talked to a Teamsters union president. I've heard of the Teamsters. I watched Newsies or whatever when I was a kid a bunch. But it was just interesting to see that – to learn about unions and see how they work.

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4705.33 - 4723.627 Theo Von

And then some people are like, well, once you get unionized, it's hard to – you don't have as much individuality. So if I'm super hardworking, I'm self-motivated, then maybe I don't want to be a part of the union. But I could see that as a safety net for people to have a union against corporations. Yeah. Yeah, to me it makes perfect sense.

4723.747 - 4746.266 Hasan Piker

Yeah, otherwise they're going to clean out your pockets. Look, every union member will tell you the motto for unions is united we bargain, divided we beg. You can either go and be like, I'm such a good guy. Please, look at how hard I'm working. And then in the off chance, maybe get recognized by your boss and maybe get a little bit extra money on the side.

4747.146 - 4766.137 Hasan Piker

Or you can get together and engage in the act of collective bargaining and force the company's hand into offering you better benefits and basically claw back the profits that you're generating for them. Because without the workforce, you got nothing. What do you think, the fucking CEO is going to build the table? No. You know what I mean?

4766.157 - 4778.447 Hasan Piker

He doesn't know the first thing about building tables, right? All it's going to be is a bunch of wood on the factory floor without you, right? Yeah. Workers are the ones who add the value, who generate the value.

4779.248 - 4799.121 Theo Von

Yeah, Bernie has a good – Bernie had a good thing about that. He said that, well, if we're going to shorten people's work weeks – he was talking about having a shorter work week. Yeah. And then that since companies' profits are going up, then the employees, the amount that they should make should go up. It's like it shouldn't just be the company at the top that has the increase.

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