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Fresh Air

The Political Battle For The Bros

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Gavin Newsom started his own podcast. It feels like the Democrats kept asking the question, like, who's the Joe Rogan of the left? And then instead of hearing my answer to it, which was you can't podcast your way out of this problem, they decided, oh, shut up. We just need to be the Joe Rogan of the left ourselves.

Fresh Air

The Political Battle For The Bros

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The solution to the Democratic Party's crisis right now is not to flood the market with more social media. The solution to the Democratic Party's problem right now is to change its policies. It's a policy thing. Yes, it's 100 percent a policy thing. and address the real material harm that people are experiencing every single day.

Fresh Air

The Political Battle For The Bros

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Recognize the hurt and showcase the ways in which the Republicans are not helping people.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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Because I'm slow. And also have a weird shot, but it goes in. And that's what matters, I think.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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And I got, I had this kid who, you know, followed me home with a knife. And I remember like negotiating with him in the entire school.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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uh throughout the entire process and uh i just like walking backwards because he didn't know where i lived and just because i used to walk home from the school and walking walking walking and then uh luckily because i was so late that my mom was outside already and she was screaming she didn't even see the kid had a knife um but it was like a somewhat traumatic experience for me but it was also kind of a funny experience

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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Because I guess that was a little bit like bullying, if you think about it.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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Yeah, I think it was a little bit extra than bullying. But yeah, the next day, the principal in front of the entire school reprimanded him and pulled his ear and kind of beat his ass in front of everybody. He was crying and he was forced to apologize to me for almost...

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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killing me with a knife and and you know follow me home um but uh you know i've had experiences like that and then also experiences for being like a little different too for sure uh or just being fat and being unathletic being uh someone who's interested in nerdy stuff like interested in american culture rather than the normal stuff that everyone else was interested in.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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Having said that, I also had normal hobbies as well. I played a lot of Dota, which is a MOBA game. It's the first ever one that was ever created, Defense of the Ancients. That was very popular amongst my classmates, so...

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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I mean it wasn't like – I don't know. I wasn't like afraid to go to school or anything. I mean, I didn't like it. I didn't quite like it, but I think that's probably why I dove too much into just like doing art in general. But. I did have some close friends. It's a different thing. It's different in Turkey.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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They don't have the same cliques in Turkey in high school, or at least they didn't when I went there, or at least the high school I went to didn't have that. But I was best friends with one of the... one of the best basketball players in the school team. Right. And he also would draw a lot. So we were just like we would hang out all the time. We lived close to one another.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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Yes, for sure. I mean, it's definitely exhausting. I stream every single day from 11 a.m. Pacific time to usually around 7, 8 p.m. Pacific time, and that's seven days a week. So it's certainly exhausting, especially because I'm doing talk radio for eight hours. I'm trying to entertain people for eight hours. I yap a lot.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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So it wasn't like there wasn't like a concept of like cool kids. But I also was getting bullied at the same time by like other random bullies. But they weren't the cool kids, if that makes sense. It's just it's a weird dynamic. But I just kind of kept to myself for that reason. I just, you know, drew and did what I wanted to do. Kind of like now.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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Definitely college, because it gave me an opportunity. I think when I was younger, I would do this every summer break. I was like, I'm going to reinvent myself. Because, like, there was so much that I desired that I was not achieving. I'm going to reinvent myself. I'm going to be cool when I come back from summer break. And then I think college was when I was actually able to do that that summer.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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I lost a lot of weight. And also I went to Miami, University of Miami, and all of a sudden I was an international student that was coming in with a bunch of other scared international students into this like new environment. So everyone is trying to figure out where they are in this space. And for me,

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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I think that was an opportunity where I wasn't I was no longer like a weird person that was sticking out because everyone else was weird. Everyone else coming to college is like a totally new, a complete reset. And I think that's when I started growing into my more social personality, for sure.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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Not that much because I grew up and this is kind of embarrassing to admit, but I grew up with one dream and one dream only. It was to go to college in America. That's it. I did not even think about what my profession would look like. That was my only goal. I wanted to go to college in America. I wanted to live in America.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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I wanted to leave Turkey and I wanted to live in America and go to college here.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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Well, I did. You're right. It was close.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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Oh, yeah. I wasn't even thinking about that. I would have loved Wyoming at that point. I didn't care. Because when you come from other countries, I have friends that still do this when they visit me from France even. And it's not like France is a developing nation.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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they get so excited to go to like trader joe's and stuff like when you're not when you're outside of the united states of america and you come to the us you're like there are so many things that we all take for granted that for a foreigner is like insane trader joe's is like an insane experience for the average person cvs is an insane experience for the average person myself included like i i still enjoy going and shopping your only dream was get to college in america because what

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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Because you were just the land of the free. I was like, this is going to be so sweet. Once I make it there, everything will be good. I just believed in the American dream, I think. I love the freedoms. I love that it did not resemble a socially repressive country in comparison to Turkey at the time that was transitioning with under Recep Tayyip Erdogan, very similar figure to Trump.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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So for me, it was like a dream as a you know so much prosperity 32 different brands of Oreos that you could pick from right like all this stuff and a great television and and All of that played a major role in me wanting to come to America. I

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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But it is very fulfilling, which is precisely the reason why I don't take it for granted. I talk about how privileged I am all the time, and I don't mind doing it because at the end of the day, I have this freedom. If I didn't want to do this, I wouldn't have to. I was just talking about this with my dad who's visiting from Turkey, staying with me.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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Developing my voice? I guess I was always, even without being on camera, I still was a yapper. I would talk to my friends about this stuff all the time. Interestingly enough, I think for me...

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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what was hard was to basically take my personality and the way I operate off camera and become comfortable enough on camera that I can be exactly like that on camera and we're there now but this is this conversation that we're having would not be different whether the cameras are on or off like I would just this is exactly how I

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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Yes and no. I feel like I sleep like a baby. Like I don't have an issue going to bed. I just knock out. But I will wake up, take a piss at 5 a.m. every morning. And when I do, I notice myself like arguing with commonly held perspectives when I wake up in that moment where I'm like, oh, fuck, what am I doing? But sometimes I'll be like, that's a great argument. I got to remember that.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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this morning where I was like, I don't have to wake up at 7 a.m. every day. I do because I want to, but the freedom of not having to do that is tremendous. It's really important.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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Yes, yes, 100%.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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I like it but I also do shut it off and the way I shut it off is by mindless television consumption like I watch a lot of anime and I play a lot of video games like that's how I shut it off where I don't think about anything and that is my hyper fixation for the moment like a TV show that I'm watching that I want to catch up on or a video game that I'm playing.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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So in the brief hours, the three hours, four hours that I'm awake when I'm not in front of a camera, that's what I do. Or I play basketball.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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I'm competitive, and the space I'm in is very competitive as well.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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It's kind of interesting because we look at other relatively popular figures in the industry that take the initiative and scale it back, scale back their operations and say, I'm not going to do this. I've made enough money. I'm not going to stream every day. And we look at that and we're like, wow, that's weird. Oh, these guys never stream. And it's like, no, they've made it.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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They're successful and they're healthy. But for me, this is what I like doing. The moment that I don't enjoy doing this is the moment that I'll stop. There's only been one instance where I've actually truly thought about changing my my trajectory and just like scaling all this back and maybe even stopping it entirely. And that was, I would say, post October seven.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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when um in the aftermath uh in the months that came up afterwards everyone was like a big chunk of my community left because they were just like they had never encountered someone who was uh i think for palestinian emancipation and in the aftermath of such uh horrifying uh actions for many people their first encounter was october 7 right with the issue and they're like this is the most

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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barbaric, this is the scariest thing I've ever seen. So when I was like, no, no, no, this is how it's been for 75 years. And the reason for that is because of Israel, they were like shocked. And so many people left and so many fans of mine said, no, this is unacceptable.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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And I think in that process, I felt so discouraged about what I was doing because I was like, I've been saying these things for 10 years. I can't believe so many people would just be like, you're an Islamist fundamentalist terrorist. and you need to be de-platformed. That was when I felt so, that was the only time I felt discouraged where I was like, damn, what I'm doing is like, it's not working.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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Um, there's definitely an addictive quality to it. Was that mine or yours?

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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And I think people resent me for it, for my positions. And I don't know if I can like penetrate public consciousness. Now, obviously we're in a very different space now because 16 months later, everyone's like, okay, maybe you were right. You weren't that wrong.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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but that was when i all the attacks that i was getting smears i i wanted to i wanted to quit i wanted to go and ironically do what my dad's been asking me to do which is get a phd and maybe teach go to college

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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Yeah, you know, that paired up with like seeing the atrocities every day. I'm talking to people in Gaza and, you know, it was not good for sure. It was not good for my mental health. And I did this every single day, nonstop, regardless of the hemorrhaging of the audience or regardless of like people freaking out. And how did I deal with it? Being fucking stubborn. I was like, I know I'm right.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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No, my dad is, right as I was talking, my dad has just been like aggressively calling me and I don't know why. And I don't know why it's ringing. This has never happened in my entire life. I don't know what the hell's going on.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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And one day you will see that I'm right. History will vindicate me. And I just kept doing what I was doing regardless.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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And I think a big part of what reinstilled the confidence in me and what I was doing was when I, and this is something that happens frequently, when I went outside and went to the student encampments, I went to UCLA, and all the field marshals, all the protest marshals there, all the organizers were like, dude, we're here because of you. You have opened up my eyes to so many different things.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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You've been such a positive force. And seeing that in action, like seeing what I try to do in action in broad daylight, that is why I do what I do. And that was very encouraging, galvanizing.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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Yeah. Well, part of that is because as a as a leftist, I'm used to taking L's. I tell that to everyone all the time. I'm like, you're going to it's change is going to be marginal. It's not going to happen in a broad, sweeping fashion. Don't look to the right and assume that you can have a January six dollar situation.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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Don't look to the right and assume that you can have a Bernie Sanders presidency where he breaks the economy in the way that Trump is right now. In the time of us having this conversation, Donald Trump came out yesterday and did Liberation Day.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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He slapped on at least 10% tariffs to every country on the planet including all the way up to like 46% Or even higher for certain allied nations Trade protectionism of that sort is not a right-wing position at all He left leftist politician would be able to do that or should be able to do that But they would never be able to do they get assassinated before they even encountered such a such a thing such a move and Trump isn't doing it in the right way anyway, and that's besides the point and

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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No, no, it's fine. It's a FaceTime, family FaceTime. It's just annoying because I got a new phone. And I think the new phone does not... Do you need a minute? No, no, I'm good. I put it on do not disturb. My family loves having family talk. They love calling every morning and then having like a big FaceTime discussion.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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The point is change is marginal, and you should always maintain revolutionary optimism. That's something that I explain to people all the time, and that's something that's always in the back of my mind as well, because I know that my cause is just, and I know that my goals are to both self-improve and improve everything around me, albeit marginally, and leave it better than it was a day before.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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So that is what keeps me hopeful, even when I feel hopeless. And I guess I've grown accustomed to loss in that regard. So I don't expect it. I don't expect victories. So when they come, it feels great. And if it doesn't happen, then I was right.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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I've always been very aware that a big chunk of my identity or a big chunk of what I enjoy is directly tied to something that is unfortunately quantitative. And I say unfortunately because... Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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Thank you very much.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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Well, I don't mind it usually, but I have a very limited time frame that I can have these sorts of talks, and then sometimes they catch me while I'm on a podcast, and it's very embarrassing.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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Thank you.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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Yeah. I mean, it's a one-stop shop. It's a one-man media operation. So there's so much to talk about. And when I'm not talking about stuff, I'm playing games and things like that and doing fun, different kinds of fun content, like collaborating with other content creators. And I feel like that also serves a separate purpose. So it is addictive for sure.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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But I think I wouldn't be able to do this if I didn't have a moral compass guiding me. I would not be able to do this if I did not feel as though what I'm doing mattered to a certain degree and it gave me emotional fulfillment.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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If I just get addicted to working out and like eating right and working hard in general and bettering myself.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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Yeah. If I just focus on healthy vices rather than unhealthy ones like gambling, alcohol, getting laid, you know, things like that and partying, then I will be able to, I'll be very successful and happy as a consequence of that. And that's what it is.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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it ain't that hot I think but I don't know maybe people get really addicted to it so it makes sense but it's fun it's alright it's like I would say it's like Adderall but worse I wasn't asking you about cocaine anyway sorry

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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You know what came to my mind? Theo Vaughn talking to Donald Trump going, cocaine will make you feel like an owl, homie. And now he's the fucking president. That's crazy. That was my moment where I realized that Trump was probably going to win in the podcast circuit that he was doing. It was infinitely more successful than people realized. What were we talking about?

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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I talk about that stuff.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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I had really good friends. I got, ironically enough... I got pulled over for a DUI and arrested for a DUI when I wasn't drunk, but Um, I had definitely, uh, I had definitely been careless in the past, but that was my wake up call. I'm broke. I'm living in a frat house after college at this point, because it's like free, free board for me. Right. I'm making, uh, I'm making less than minimum wage.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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Basically I'm barely making ends meet. And now I have this thing. uh standing over me that is going to dominate my professional career for the rest of my life because at that time i was in in sales right and i i was like i gotta change my life this is over my life is over i'm done you know i don't have ten thousand dollars How am I going to pay for a lawyer? Because I got arrested.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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They made me blow on the field breathalyzer test like eight times until it was, I guess, over 0.08 so they could take me to get blood work done. And then the blood work showed at the end that I was actually lower than the actual legal limit. So they didn't have anything to prosecute me with. So they just dropped the court case in its entirety.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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but the arrest record is still there and i was in jail that night and and and for the months after uh the arrest like i thought you know there's gonna be a court date and i'm probably gonna have my life ruined like it's over it's over for me and so i that was definitely when i was like i'm done i'm quitting drinking and i did and i'm glad that i did because now

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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I can definitely see certain vices and certain addictions like get out of hand very quickly, but especially with alcohol, Every now and then as a social drinker, if I go to a party and I'm like peer pressured into it, I can just like have one drink. That paired up with the fact that I'm 33 and will be insanely hungover if I go overboard and have a couple has kept the demons at bay, I guess.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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And I never really want to drink in general. But yeah, I quit drinking for like two years in a row.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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Yeah.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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Nothing's more important than fun. But work is fun. That's the way I feel about it.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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pull of addiction. But my willpower overcomes it, but I'm able to overcome it through repetition, through tricking myself basically, slowly but surely into building that habit until it becomes almost addictive to follow through. But definitely the pull of addiction is my north star for sure.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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I guess. Well, one, I was always political. I was always interested in politics growing up in Turkey. So that's a big part of that. But then I started working on my uncle's and my uncle's startup called The Young Turks, 26 person media company at the time as a YouTube channel. and had a bunch of other smaller YouTube channels underneath that umbrella.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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Years. I mean, it's every single day. I started off on the content side. I started off. I was terrible unscripted. So I started out with writing a script and then doing a teleprompter in front of a green screen in this supply closet. That was all right. That was fine. And I actually got a lot of success when it was called a breakdown on Facebook.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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And I just knew that I had to keep doing it, whether good or bad initially. I just have to keep going and I have to keep doing it and develop myself and get better and better at it. Part of the reason why I started going, part of the reason why I got on Twitch as well was because I wanted to get better at unscripted talk.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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in contentious environments where i'm trying to entertain someone and i knew that if i were to because i was playing fortnite all the time with my friends anyway i knew that if i were to like just live stream that process and try to be entertaining that that would get me better off the cuff And, yeah, it seemingly worked.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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So that's how I built it for years and years, brick by brick, both improving myself and improving everything else that I'm doing on my output.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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First moment for first revelation was I walk into I think it was like Buffalo Trading Co or whatever. It was like a secondhand thrift store. This is like 2016, 2017. I walk in, I'm doing these videos on the Young Turks and these videos are getting like 30 million views a week because the Facebook video faucet had opened up at that time.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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It like literally made and then broke a lot of media companies like Upworthy. Right. You know, So at that time, I'm doing these Facebook videos, and they're getting 30 million views, and I'm like, I don't know if this is real or not. Is this real? Is there real motion here? Are people actually watching this, or is it just fake?

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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I walk in, and this dude is on the phone talking to their friend, completely oblivious that I'm there, about the video that they've watched, the last video that I put out about Tommy Lauren. That's when I was like, damn. It was kismet. It was luck.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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you know but this is actually penetrating public consciousness like this is something that people are that are interested in uh so that was my first like moment where i was like oh my god people actually do care about what i have to say this is crazy and then the the second thing was when i went full-time on my own in 2020 and i think like

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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while the George Floyd protests were taking place and everyone was at home and stuck and they were all looking for exactly what I'm doing, basically a sense of a place for a community of like minded individuals that are constantly going to keep you informed

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions - Hasan Piker

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And when my community just exploded in size in that process, that's when I was like, oh, okay, this is beyond what I have ever imagined what my career would look like or even have a real career in this.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

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I interned with him and then I wanted to live in L.A. and I had no job prospects. I lied to my family saying that I was going to take the LSAT and go to college and maybe even go to UCLA Law, you know, and that was a lie. I was not interested in that at all. I just wanted to come to L.A. because I wanted to leave New Jersey, which is, I think, fairly reasonable.

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Parasocial, but in both ways, where I'm parasocial with them as well as they are parasocial with me. It's definitely unhealthy. Because I talked about this in COVID, like my dog died during COVID in the first couple of months and I was alone. I was in my one bedroom apartment by myself and I had nowhere to go. Couldn't go to the gym. You know, demons start creeping in.

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I'm like, I got nothing going on. So I just poured myself into my work. 14 hour streams every day. The year of 2020, I streamed 42% of the entire year. 42% of the entire year, not like 42% of, like I was on camera for almost half of the entire year.

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Yeah, but I was doing that because I just didn't want to focus on how shitty everything was. Like, I wanted a community. I wanted to hang out with people. So that's why I did it. And it was, you know, it was fairly successful. But it certainly helped me as well. I mean, I've dialed a bag. I do like 38% of the year now, right? It's not 42%. It's fine. I'm moving in the opposite direction.

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I'm moving in the opposite direction.

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To a certain degree, for sure. I think, you know, I don't know them. I don't know them like that. They're anonymous, right? And they don't know me, but they think they do. I do put myself out there. Like, I am very... I'm very honest about... about who I am and how I feel, maybe to a fault, I should be able to hide it a little bit better.

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Yeah, they know me, but I don't know them. So their expectation is that I should almost, but also... No matter how well you know someone, you can read it incorrectly, right?

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And I think that the real issue there is people develop parasocial tendencies, parasocial relationships, and then operate under the assumption that they do know you and sometimes get things off base, but then will still argue with you on whether or not this is right for you or not. And it's like, you're not. I'm a 33-year-old man. You're... You're not my father. I don't even listen to my dad.

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You know what I mean? Like, I got this. Don't worry. That's what I mean when I say it just gets to an unhealthy place.

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choices that you would have made uh differently no not really because i mean there's there's things that everyone would change about themselves i think you know um getting in get involved in something earlier than you would have or anything like that but i i choose not to do that because I'm very happy with where I'm at.

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um so i came out here i i worked for the young turks for years and in that process they initially started off on the sales side they didn't have any sort of like internal sales division so i basically built that i built the the client list i did the cold calling i did all of our advertisement operations at the time at the young turks um but the

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And I feel like I have a policy, a principle of never just looking back and thinking, oh, I did that wrong. And then like endlessly thinking about that over and over again, because I feel like it's unproductive. There's nothing you can do. It already happened. And you reacted the way that you did.

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You might as well focus on, learn your lessons from how you operated back then and make sure that it doesn't happen again. Improve yourself, but move on. So I rarely ever think about my mistakes in the past.

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I mean, I think it's the phones, it's the alienation, it's the atomization, it's the lack of hope that everyone is experiencing. But it's particularly bad for men. Because I think maybe, at least for women, it's like a relatively new thing where you get to just go to college and work and stuff.

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So maybe they're more appreciative, regardless of how shitty the material circumstances are, even for them. As opposed to men whose futures have been taken away from them, I think, especially men that mostly worked in the manufacturing base that no longer exist in this country.

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So that switch over to white collar jobs and professional fields has eviscerated a big chunk of the male job opportunities that were readily available in this country. We have a significant rise of underemployment in this country. where I believe it's like 23%, something along those lines, is a crazy number of people just doing gig economy work and basically nothing.

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Whereas in the past, I think a decent percentage of men could just get a job at a factory and it was fine. You could raise your children, send them to college even, you got the GI Bill. All of that stuff is gone. And I think young men feel that. They feel that. Young women feel it too. But I think it's particularly damaging to the collective conscious of young men.

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And young men, unfortunately, are also very susceptible to and very in that vulnerability, they're very susceptible to believing like just a guy that masquerades as a role model, but is a bad dude, you know, like Andrew Tate's of the world. And that is a real issue.

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So they find a sense of comfort in a guy that they kinda wanna be like, that is just like signaling all of the things that they care about, money, power, women.

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For sure. And I think it's a sense of entitlement that is unaddressed overall, broadly, for men. But as times worsen, as material conditions worsen, as people's hope for a better future becomes increasingly less likely, or you just can't even dream of a better tomorrow for yourself, you're never going to retire, you're never going to be able to own a home. I think that...

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But the whole time I was like, I want to do on camera stuff. So I would just like slot myself in wherever I could. And it's a startup. So that was there was an allowance there for me to be able to do so. And yeah, I started doing like the culture stuff, the media stuff on whenever like a guest host wasn't there. I would just fill in last second. And I was so bad. I was so bad on camera.

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creates this downward pressure on a lot of men because society does not match their expectations from their development, from their upbringing and what they're supposed to be at. And it breaks them.

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It breaks them and paired up with the with the lack of interest in self-examination and reevaluating where you are and how you got there, and instead just kind of holding it down and pushing it down to the best of your ability. What? I'm going to use a term here that's going to piss people off, toxic masculinity has, how toxic masculinity has harmed men in this way.

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When you factor all of that together, it's an atom bomb.

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No, I understand it. It is scary. They are like that demographic. I wouldn't say that this is my audience, but that demographic does do a lot of harm online and maybe sometimes in the real world as well. So, I try to steer them away from that to the best of my ability.

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Yeah. Just, I mean, that demo isn't just young men, though. That demo is just men, white men especially, but men across the board. Yeah. I was in an Uber going to the Bernie Sanders AOC rally in Nevada, in Las Vegas. And my Uber driver was talking about how he loves Theo Vaughn and Joe Rogan. And lo and behold, he was like, I'm so glad that Doge is cutting Trans Sesame Street or something in Iraq.

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Like, that's what they're doing in Iraq, Trans Sesame Street. and this dude was like i think he was a teacher or no he was a he worked in uh a western pennsylvania in a oil field initially he was a fracker and i guess he their company used to work on federal land and biden stopped offering federal land contracts uh and he lost his job but instead of carrying that resentment towards his boss

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for not doing right by him he just hates joe brandon he's like i hate joe biden and i think in that process he just like found podcasts and became this guy who believes in nonsense believes in falses because he hears the podcast guy who he's parasocially connected to tell him like this is what's going on and he just regurgitates that to feel smart about himself and it slowly but surely becomes a mantra that he believes this is a dangerous cycle

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That man was in his 50s. He was not a 25-year-old, right? So I think we have to examine a lot. A lot that has gone wrong.

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I would assume. Yeah. I try to...

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It was crazy. But I knew that I would just have to constantly train myself and constantly keep going until I would inevitably get better. And now I can't shut up. So I guess to a certain degree it worked out. But I was doing that at the Young Turks and at the Young Turks in that process I figured out like I need to have something for myself. And I also need to I'm a gamer.

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try to be like water i try to bruce lee this when someone comes at me with that i try to make a quick assessment of how much they care about this particular thing because if it's like borderline psychosis if you have a pathological obsession with trans people i'm not going to be able to shake you from that position that's like mental illness for the most part at that point right if you're like constantly worrying about that

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it does start resembling like and I'm sure people in your audience know someone like this whether online or in their real life where they're just like maybe a little too worried about this stuff where it's like there's like 30 of them calm down you know what I mean

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But I usually look to quickly try to understand whatever the key issue that we're talking about this time is like trans Sesame Street or whatever for USAID. And I try to see if I can just move him to reason. to find common ground and just like redirect all the force and anger that he has.

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Yeah, there's an endless faucet of right-wing reactionary sentiment. So that's not, I understand that that's just what the market looks like. And this is the outcome. People believe in nonsense. There's not much you can do about it. And this is what you do about it. You try to redirect those conversations and hope that that person

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will remember that conversation and will have a takeaway from that experience that is otherwise positive. So what I did with him was basically like, you know, set a trap for him. I was like, Oh, you heard about the Trump trans women in sports thing? And he was like,

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yeah you know i heard and uh and and uh you know he's like oh are you excited about this oh hell yeah thank god no more men playing against women something along those lines right like classic it's like like okay but the egg prices are dog shit what's up with that you know and and he was like oh yeah i guess you're right and i was like

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Yeah, don't you think that he's just like distracting you because he doesn't want to fix the egg prices? And he started thinking about it. I could see the cogwheels turning. And the thing that I said to him basically was like, how many trans athletes do you think participate in the NCAA? And he just had no idea. And I think, what is the number, 49? It's not very many.

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Yeah, so it's like you think there's more people standing behind him.

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signing that thing and there are trans athletes in the ncaa he's doing it because he doesn't want to fucking fix the egg prices he wants you to be locked in and laser focused on someone who has no power over you and i also uh told him because he said he was a theo von fan i was like go listen to my theo von interview and uh you know i think you'll like it and i and i basically say similar things in that conversation as well so i try to do i try to do that a lot because

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There are certain things that I think we delude ourselves into having firmly held convictions on when we just don't care. I think that's one of those things. These people don't give a fuck about women's sports. I'm sorry. You make fun of women's sports every goddamn day of the week and you say, women's sports, who's watching that? What am I, a pussy? What am I, gay?

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And then all of a sudden you're like, a high school swim meet?

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we have to protect women's sports the integrity of the high school swimming it's like what are you a pedophile what do you mean you high school swim meet of a high school you don't fucking go to get out of here you don't know that you don't know anything about the high school swim meet you shouldn't know anything about the high school swim meet why the fuck are you busying your brain with this because someone in a podcast told you this is what you have to care about and they're like oh i don't get it trans people are weird actually yeah maybe they're doing it for indecent purpose yeah they're transing themselves to win a fucking high school swim meet get out of here

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Why don't you do it then? Why don't you trans yourself if it's so easy?

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I the market at the time for gaming and commentary was heavily dominated by the right wing, which is not dissimilar to what it looks like right now. But I wanted to show that it wasn't just like woke SJWs like the left was much larger than this. It was a it was a diverse umbrella of people who are progressive minded but can also have fun.

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Because I think that the right had so successfully undermined the optics of the left in general by constantly presenting them as woke rad libs who never enjoy themselves, who don't want to have any fun, who are very censorious and yada, yada, yada.

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to be fair like that's how the right is as well and that's how they've always been and there was some truth to that in general but i think that it was so uh successful as a as a mechanism of pushback is so successful as propaganda that a lot of young men responded to that and I wanted to tackle that. I wanted to penetrate that.

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And I wanted to show people like, no, you can have progressive politics and like still have fun. This is ridiculous. And all these guys that are actually pointing the finger at blame at the left and saying that they're annoying and woke scolds are actually just neck bearded losers themselves. And they also are hysterical quite frequently. And that's how I got on Twitch.

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Thank you for having me. This is very exciting. Yes, you don't know anything about sports. No, I don't. Self-admittedly, my interest in sports begins and ends and exclusively revolves around LeBron James and defending LeBron James' honor and talking about LeBron James in general.

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Um, I think they kind of gave up on me, so that was fine. I, I think I'll just say it like this. Every phone conversation that I had with my dad when I was working at the Young Turks and until I would say 2021. every foreign conversation was, when are you going to get a PhD? Like, what are you doing? When are you going to get higher education? You have to get higher education.

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My mother's a professor. My father's a professor as well. He's not a scientist. He is, because I don't think, you know, being an economist is a real science. They're both have PhDs. But yeah, that's, That's basically what it is.

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Yeah, we call it the golden bracelet. Golden bracelet. Engineer, doctor, lawyer. And lawyer is like the worst one out of the two. It's like three. You got to go either engineer or doctor. My brother's an engineer. So they were... I mean, they love me. They're very supportive. They were not ashamed, I don't think, or if they were, they were hiding it very well.

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No, but it was a gentle nudge in the direction of getting a PhD. Every single time we had a conversation, it was like, come on, come on. Cut it with the shit. Cut it out. This is done, right? It's over. And now what? I think... I don't know the exact moment when it changed, but I think, like, once I started showcasing that I was financially stable, they were like, okay, this worked out. It's fine.

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Because I went full-time in 2020, and, you know, you got all these articles coming out. I was actually financially stable and very successful in the last election cycle in 2020. So I think that's when they were like, okay, this is a serious job, I think. I mean, it's volatile. It's scary. But I...

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it has the the fixings of what looks like a profession so i think that's what it was where does the work ethic come from um i don't know that's actually a really interesting question because i don't think i've ever thought about that and i think i've ever answered that but i've always i've always been a very stubborn guy growing up and i always felt like i had so much more that i could achieve

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And so I would spend all of my time trying to self-improve, all of my time trying to improve myself, like day in, day out. Because I'm not a naturally gifted person. There are a lot of people who are. There's a lot of fantastic, charismatic individuals who are just like, you can tell. It just clicks. You tell them to tackle a task they've never encountered before, and then they just can do it.

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But I am open and unashamed about the fact that I very rarely watch even basketball. I play basketball all the time. I play it weekly, but I don't watch professional sports at all.

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I'm not like that. I'm like the ugly duckling or whatever. you know, just uncoordinated and without tact.

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No, they were very open-minded when I was growing up, I think. They were very, like, they kind of let me do my own thing. And I spent... most of my childhood and high school years, almost the entirety of it, drawing. I was obsessed with drawing. I would just draw video game characters and anime, things like that. That's all I did.

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And it's interesting because I never do that anymore now because my dad was like, you got to cut this shit out. You're not going to be an artist. What are you doing? You're not going to make any money if you do that. Which is ironic because I think that paired up with my first freshman two-dimensional visual design class made me realize I can't do this. The art stuff is crazy.

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I didn't even think about it like that. That's all I cared about was drawing. Every class, I would just sit there and draw. I wouldn't even listen to what the teacher was saying. I wouldn't take notes. I would just draw nonstop. And I stopped in college. I mean, I draw every now and then, but I think the creative bones have stayed in me, and it helps with the other things that I do.

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But it's definitely not there in the forefront as it once was. Why am I bringing that up? I'm bringing that up because I think I just have an obsessive nature. Very stubborn. Some people might say it's autism. I don't know, maybe. But that's what it is. There's a constant want inside of me that I have never really examined. where I always want to do more.

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I always want to be better than who I was the day prior. And that's been the case since I was a kid.

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I think that a lot of people from the house, I would say you're very hard on yourself.

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Yeah, I wouldn't say I'm... too hard on myself necessarily, because I understand that it takes time. I understand that change requires, like hard work is not going to happen overnight. So I feel like that is the reason why I'm not super hard on myself, because I'm very happy with what I've achieved. It's not like I'm like, oh, I'm such a loser.

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Yeah, no, I don't play in a weak way, no. I mean, I do have, like, people call me the Turkish Jokic, but...

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Like, I need to to get better, whether it be playing basketball and like trying to dunk again. Right. Or whether it be working out, physical fitness, trying to hit certain PRs, like trying to achieve the the same.

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like physical uh prowess that i demonstrated when i was 26 at the age of 33 maybe 34 in the future uh all of that stuff i am aware takes takes a lot uh to accomplish and so i take the the gains that i make in the short term and i don't take it for granted i that that keeps me very motivated and very happy so i don't think i'm too harsh on myself were you bullied as a kid oh yeah Oh yeah.

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Um, I mean, Turkish bullying is different. Like it was pretty violent, you know, pylons just beating the shit out of someone. You know, I also was the, uh, the rich kid cause my family initially is very affluent for Turkey. And, uh, my father lost all of his money by the time I got to college, but that's besides the point.

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But in that process, they took me out of private school in third grade and sent me to public school. And Turkish public schools are, you know, that's like the Turkish income inequality is something that is very different than even American income inequality, even though America is now more, America is now resembling Turkey a little bit, the Gini coefficient. But

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Would say that that wealth disparity was so severe that means that like someone like myself going to public school in Turkey was almost controversial at the time at least for middle school Because public schools, when you go to high school and college, are the best schools in Turkey. Because we have a nationalized education system. But in middle school, it was like, I guess, unique.

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It feels like I made so many requests where I'm like, oh my God, I need to have my dog here, all this shit. No, dude, I'm just saying it's all stylish.

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Like you go to any outlet, most of them are going to rule it a suicide. No critical, no critical reporting on it whatsoever. Just unconditionally saying like, no, no, no, it was definitely a suicide. Like the average American doesn't feel that way. And also there's very valid reasons as to why they don't feel that way.

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Israel is another great example of this where, like, it was like 80% of Americans wanted a ceasefire. And yet, if you look at all the way from CNN to Fox News, every single outlet was just like, no, no, no, you don't understand. Israel has to kill these children. Like, please. No, you don't understand. Like, can you imagine? You got...

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imagine a role reversal in that situation where like you got you got uh osama bin laden's best lads on cnn immediately after 9-11 being like listen like we we had to blow up the twin towers like you you don't the world trade center it was it was right there it was asking for it one of them was a little askew yeah yeah we had to fix it um

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It was almost just Sinclair Broadcasting. Yeah. So that's actually that's ironically a lot of right wingers spread that one. Is that true or not? No, it is. But that but that's right wing. That's Sinclair Broadcasting. It's like a right wing media company that basically bought out all the remaining local news broadcasters. Wow. So it's like an umbrella.

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Right-wing media is all over the place, actually, and a lot of people don't realize it. Whenever Fox News talks about mainstream media lies, I'm like, bro, you are the most popular news network in the country. What do you mean mainstream media? You're dominating everybody else.

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This is the top. I mean, both are Japanese, I think, actually. Oh, yeah, that's what it is. Yeah, it's a Japanese brand called Color with a K. And the pants are Adidas Y3, Yoji Yamamoto collab. Damn. You don't fuck with fashion at all. I mean, yeah, I don't. I mean, you got a look, though. I mean, I don't like to have a lot of... Should we save this for the pod? That's normal. Oh, we're rolling?

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Yeah, right-wing media is so dominant. And in the independent side, right-wing media is dominant as hell too. But like on the mainstream side, right-wing media is incredibly dominant. They dominate the local news with Sinclair Broadcasting and also all the way up to Fox News, which is the most famous, which is the most like successful network news broadcaster in the country.

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

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Is Fox News the most watched news network? Yeah. By widest margins. Really? Yeah, it's not even close. CNN and MSNBC, Trump always talks about how CNN and NBC are, you know, in the pooper. Their ratings are awful. These guys love presenting themselves as vulnerable victims, and I really always get annoyed by that. Like, they say that about... They used to always say that about like Facebook too.

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They're like, oh, they're banning stuff. And I'm sure they banned like vaccine denial or whatever, right? Because Facebook wanted to be woke and liberal until Mark Zuckerberg got hit with the Dominican ray.

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They are. No, no, for sure. Like a lot of like the New York Times, you got CNN, ABC, CBS, like NBC. These outlets are liberal. Now, obviously, I'm a little bit of a radical, I guess. So I'm definitely not fond of the Democratic Party either, even though my criticisms of the Democrats are because of their closeness to the Republicans in general. But yeah, they are.

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I would say that they're definitely liberal, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they're like on the side of the people or anything like that or on even the progressive side of many, many of these issues. And that's why I said there is this uniparty attitude like liberals and Republicans. They basically come together and agree when it comes to giving more money to Israel.

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Yeah, not not the voters. I'm talking like institutions. I'm talking politicians.

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Trump. The other day, Trump was like, yo, we can't give any more money to Ukraine, right? You're done. He's like, Zell Disney, you're out. And then he turns around and he's like, also, we're sending $3 billion of weapons and bulldozers to Israel pronto. Did they really? Yeah. Bring that up. $3.4 billion, I believe, on the same day. Yeah, Rubio bypasses Congress to send Israel $4 billion in arms.

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They were like, oh, we have to expeditiously send this out to Israel. Arms for what? What do you mean? To continue killing Palestinians?

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Yeah, there's still a million plus Palestinians in the Gaza Strip. They're basically just like living in the rubble, trying to rebuild. I mean, these are some of the most resilient people on the planet. Like they just, they've been through hell a million times over, you know?

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Yeah, I think that was real though. I don't think that was AI. I saw people taking photos of that. Yeah. I mean, also the other side of this is like the Gaza strip is, is like overwhelmingly children. Like we're talking like the average age is 14. People are on like 50 plus percent are, are minors.

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No, I mean, look, I've been actively and openly pro-Palestinian emancipation for the past decade, and I've seen a major attitude shift.

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Wait, what do you mean? Because he, yeah, he's been. When I was in third grade, I thought I was gay. Did he do that? That's what his song was.

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Oh, okay. All right. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. My bad. That's why I didn't have it on the... That's why I didn't have it in my mouth because I thought we weren't filming yet.

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Yeah. I mean, look, I'll never, I'll never discard allies. I'm, you know, that's an amazing thing to, to look at the situation with clarity, with moral clarity and just be like, listen, I didn't know enough about this. And now I've recognized the cruelty of, of what we are doing.

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Like, cause that's the other thing, like America, whether we agree to it or not, or whether we recognize it or not is like participating in this in a pretty meaningful way. They're offering political cover at the UN. They, uh, You got the basically war crime cops out there at the ICC and ICJ, the International Court of Justice, which prosecutes state on state prosecutions.

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You have the International Criminal Court, which is a court that prosecutes war criminals. Right. And both of them have issued for Netanyahu to be prosecuted. Yeah.

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So South Africa has a case against Israel for genocide. That's ongoing at the ICJ. And at the ICC, the International Criminal Court has a prosecutor that has issued arrest warrants for Benjamin Netanyahu and Yoav Galan for the crime of doing a genocide, for being war criminals, intentional starvation of a civilian, captive civilian population. It's a pretty obvious war crime. So –

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Do some covert op shit. But just to be like... No, their military is ass, though. That's the problem. They just have like... They just have... Overwhelming firepower and air superiority. That's it.

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No, I think we are complicit. I mean that's how I feel about it at least. But that's why I actively urge people to protest and do everything in their power to try to put an end to this because I think we have a lot of power in this regard in the United States of America. I don't think that America is like a true democracy by any means and this kind of stuff basically –

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uh puts that on display for everyone to recognize um or you know whenever people go hey can we get health care and the government's like fuck you then you're like what like this would be nice to have you know socialized medicine um but uh but you still you still got to keep trying it's that time baby it's that time to get that thing on you get that thing on yeah

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I wouldn't say it's like complicity in terms of like your hands are bloody individually, but the least you can do is not actively champion America doing this stuff and also go out and protest and try to give a voice to voiceless people that are just being massacred for no reason. Yeah.

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Candace Owens got a lot of thoughts on that stuff. I think I think there's like two different camps here. You got people who critically analyze the relationship with Israel and you got people who are like, it's the Jews. You know, I am in the critically analyzing the situation camp rather than just being like, oh, it's Jews because they got mind control powers or whatever the fuck people say.

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It's because it is an unsinkable aircraft carrier in a resource rich region. And it has its own espionage facilities. And that is the reason like we basically carried over from the British this this settler colony in the region that we can just kind of use or have a collaborative relationship with. And it's incredibly valuable for us. So valuable that like.

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I mean, Israel's blown up USS Liberty like an American Navy ship. And basically... That was in the 50s, I think. Yeah. In that process, it was an incredibly valuable Cold War ally because we were terrified of Israel going and collaborating with the USSR. You got pan-Arabic nationalism happening all around the region.

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All these countries that are developing nation states are doing so on the boundaries of defeating... They're colonial occupiers, whether it be French colonialism or British colonialism. And simultaneously, they're looking to the USSR. Right. And they're like, you know, maybe you guys will help us out. This seems like a cool thing that you guys got going on over there.

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The socialism stuff ain't too bad. America goes, fuck that. And they basically hit the Israel button as hard as they could, where they were just like, you guys are going to be our extension. It's like some of my friends say there are favored client states and then there are client states that America just discards.

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Bro, you got to look. You can't be saying I need to get into fashion and you're making a deliberate choice to not have a mustache and grow a beard out. You think so? I feel like that's a look.

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Ukraine is obviously a non-favored client state, and that's what happens when you're done with Ukraine, where you're like, I'm done with this, you know, pack it up, give me all your minerals, even if you have any, who knows, I don't care, you know, know your place. America does this to the Kurds all the time as well, where they'll just like arm them and be like, yeah, you guys need to get...

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You guys need to develop a nation state. It'd be nice. Kurds are an ethnic minority in the region. Okay. In where? 35 million people. In what region? In the Middle East. Okay. 35 million people don't have a nation state. A lot of them live in Turkey. So kind of homeless kind of? Iraq. Well, yeah. Yes and no.

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And there's like varying degrees of cruelty that they're subjected to in these countries as like an ethnic minority. My country included in Turkey. Wow. And... They want to they want to build a nation state. They got an autonomous region in Iraq now. They're in Syria as well. They're in Iran as well. And then they're trying to figure it out. Turkey. Yeah.

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So America will go up to them and be like, we're going to arm you guys. We're going to train you guys. Go fuck shit up. And then as soon as they're done, they they just discard them. And they're like, OK, go. You can they'll tell Turkey you can go and bomb these villages that they're in. Who cares? It doesn't matter anymore.

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I never thought about that. Yeah, I guess. You got the flannel. It's that little bit like a sock for your chin kind of, I guess. Yeah. That's brave, by the way. I just got to say. To do just this? Yeah, I think it's brave.

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No, I get it. What you're exhibiting is a very normal contradiction that a lot of Americans – When faced with the reality of American foreign policy, they come to terms with this. They try to resolve this contradiction where on the one hand, you're saying, well, I'm an American. I like the security blanket that I exist under, right?

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But also simultaneously, you're like, but damn, we're doing a lot of fucked up shit around the world. I mean, look, I'm a... People always yell at me and say, oh, Hassan, you only say America bad. But I don't just stop at that. I want America to be good. I think America has an incredible potential. It's the wealthiest nation on the planet.

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It should be doing so much more to help its own citizens and so much more to lead the way, pave the way for a new evolution of the way that we look at international relations than the way that we engage with conflict. The reason why America is the way it is is because I see it as basically 50 corporations in a trench suit.

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It's a holdover to extract tax revenue from everyday Americans and then give it directly back to corporations in the form of subsidies without ever regulating them and demanding anything in return. I think one of the best examples of this was when Russia invaded Ukraine. And then Russia is also part of OPEC+, so they went back to Saudi Arabia.

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Why are you throwing them under the bus? I know. I am. My bad, guys.

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Is that right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Basically, exactly. It's a cartel.

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That's what it is. It's a group of countries that have oil reserves that basically set the price of oil barrels. Okay. And Saudi Arabia is pretty dominant because they have... Um, you know, I mean, they, they are the oil gods basically. Yeah.

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And yeah, the organization of petroleum exporting countries and, uh, Russia basically went back to OPEC and was like organization of petroleum exporting countries. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. At the time, Russia had a lot to, you know, a lot to gain from and all these other countries had a lot to also gain from basically limiting the price of, or limiting the supply of oil.

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Sometimes. I mean, we don't got Amish people. Normally, the only time you see the beard and the no mustache combo is if they just go with the full one. Oh, yeah. And it's just like, I don't know why they do that.

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Um, you know, we're in the post COVID era too. And then like, they're also, They were also making a lot of money or they had lost a lot of revenue. So they wanted to recoup because nobody was like flying around or using oil because everyone was like starting home. So they were recouping on those losses by just basically saying demand is on an all time high. We're not going to produce, you know.

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We're not going to keep up with that demand to make sure that we stabilize the prices.

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Oh, yeah, they could have produced way more. Right. So the point I was going to make is Brandon went back to Saudi Arabia. You know, he shook hands with MBS and was like, hey. Who did, Brandon? Brandon, Joe Brandon, Joe Biden. Oh, Joe Biden. Yeah, he went to Saudi Arabia. He was like, come on, Jack, you know, produce more oil. Come on, don't do it. And they were like, nope.

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The reason why I'm telling this convoluted story is because then we have American oil and gas industry providers, right? Like we have our own oil. Everybody always talks about how we have independence, like energy independence in America. So he went back to the American oil and gas industry and was like, all right, you guys have to produce more oil because you have to offset what OPEC is doing.

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And you know what they said? Fuck you. That's what they said. They rely, the oil and gas producers in this country, the fossil fuel industry gets 80% of our energy subsidies. It's like billions of dollars that they get.

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Not even a kickback, like government collects taxes and then government gives these companies, whether they're in agriculture or whether they're in the oil and gas industry, they give money to these companies to keep prices relatively low, to keep up with the cost of the production. Right. They're like, hey, we're going to give you this money. So you keep prices low.

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Yeah, exactly. I didn't even know that. And they didn't provide – they just didn't supply the federal government with more oil. Like they just did not – They did not produce more in the time to stabilize prices. And you got like the oil lobby guys going on CNBC and actively being like, we have a fiduciary responsibility to our shareholders to maximize profit.

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We don't care if the you know, we don't care if the prices are high, you know, sucks to suck because our profits are great.

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and the reason why i explained all this is because i think that's a perfect demonstration of how america operates like the american government operates rather where it serves corporations not the people and then you got china on the other hand where like it's you know they got billionaires too they got massive corporations too but those corporations serve the government

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Now, that can be bad, but if the government is interested in uplifting the public good and doing even development or whatever, then ultimately they just can force corporations' hands to do whatever they want.

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No, it does. Yeah, no. What you're describing, like I said, is what leftists call living in the imperial core. Because if you're in the heart of empire, you at the very least don't suffer the repercussions of being the victims, right? Right. Like you're not in Guatemala, so you're not getting destabilized by the American government in many instances, or at least throughout your history.

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So you haven't been kept down. And therefore your situation in comparison to them is going to be a lot better. And then what do I want my life to be like day to day?

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Yeah. So that that that what you were describing right there is is basically the heart of I wouldn't say the problem necessarily, but that that is why a lot of people just like tune out because they feel just powerless at the end of the day. You know, you got your protests, you vote, and then these guys do whatever the fuck they want to do.

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What am I supposed to do is like the the attitude that the average citizen has in this country, right?

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and you know that's why things slowly but surely seemingly get worse year over year maybe not for you and i because like i mean we're relatively successful but for like average people for everyday people shit is fucked up and they recognize it but they don't know who is responsible for it and they become so malleable and so open uh to to responding to anybody that will look at

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Anybody that will recognize their frustration and say, it's actually because of this and that. And I think Trump tapped into that so perfectly. And that's why he won. That's why he defeated the Democrats so handily. Because he was like, yes, you're angry. I'm angry too. Why are you angry? Because woke libtards, because DEI, because trans people, because undocumented immigrants.

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undocumented immigrants aren't your fucking landlord. They're not the one who's raising the price of rent. They don't own the, they don't own the mega corporations. They don't, they're not, they're not sitting at the board of BlackRock. You know what I mean?

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It's not a Guatemalan migrant that's sitting at the board of BlackRock, uh, purchasing all the fucking houses or they're not the real estate developers that refuse to, you know, uh, uh, add to the like much needed supply of housing.

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i don't know man but no you're probably the most style i'm trying to think of somebody else more stylish that's come in here oh here's some facial hair types right here this is very important bro this is like that that russian ethnicities uh photo grin you know what i'm talking about like in the ussr this is crazy it does look like yeah they're like they're showing us the different kinds of armenians it does look like 40 degrees of uber that's what it looks like yeah see look that's what i'm talking about

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Yeah, he did, like, a fake State of the Union. It was a joint congressional address. Joint congressional address. Yeah. Because he talked about some of those things, like DEI. Yeah, bro, they cut DEI. Now planes are fucking falling out of the sky, man. We need to bring Pete Buttigieg back as the transportation secretary. He needs to fix the problem. Was he a dog in there? No.

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I don't know about the jumping. I don't know how they would factor into the pilot program.

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Now I think, you know, if I get on a plane and I see a white man, that dude better be in a polyamorous relationship, okay? I need that dude sucking dick, okay? No, dude. I need something. If he's straight and he's a straight white male, that plane is falling, dude. That's what's going on. Trump came in, he killed DEI every day. There's another fucking plane crash. What?

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but is it white dudes doing it here's the thing i'm around it's not i'm not being serious even though even though republicans do think that that is real where they're like oh if there's a black woman pilot that's why planes are falling it's like no dumb ass it's because of capitalism like they've they've literally undercut every aspect of production to make more money they constantly outsource they constantly send certain aspects of manufacturing to to other countries where there's like less regulation and less restrictions that makes them more money

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And that's why fucking planes are, you know, the doors are exploding and shit while they're flying. Is that one of the real reasons you think it's going on? That's 100% the reason why it's going on.

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Well, that's also because, you know, minor incidents happen all the time. But the media hyper focuses on them when it becomes like a hot button topic. That's what it is. And there are obviously freak accidents as well. Like they all freak accidents happen. But I think there's never really like a like a perfect example, like a perfect demonstration of why these things are happening more frequently.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, but the difference is the... the severity of like one big crash and then people hyper focus on it. This happened with, uh, Palestine, Ohio. Uh, remember when the train derailment happened and everybody was like, why aren't they covering this? Well, you know, I'm, I'm a little bit of a foamer. I love, I love trains.

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Maybe it's because of the autism, but like, you know how many train derailments happening every year, every single year, a thousand. Some of them are minor. Some of them are major. Um, Right. So every single person hyper focused on this, understandably, because like they try to do a shitty ass cover up for it and be like, oh, no, everything is fine. And there was gas leaking.

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Yeah, there was death. Oh, you just feel itchy. It's normal. Yeah. Keep drinking the water. It's fine that it's green. You know, shut up. But.

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uh because of that then everybody started focusing on all these derailments and they were like what the hell is going on and it's like there's a lot of that that happens all the time it's just the media doesn't pay attention to it because if you paid attention to it all the time you go crazy it's like crime right crime in big cities it's a constant oh yeah you know that is uh a buddy of mine was staying with me and he's from like the suburbs of portland right just like a very white neighborhood

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and i'm living i live in the middle of west hollywood and you know la is not like new york or whatever but it's still a city right every time he heard firecrackers or whatever like uh fireworks or whatever he would freak out he's like is that gunshots i'm like no man that's just fireworks like what are you talking about And then he would hear ambulances or police sirens, and he'd freak out.

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Because if you live in a suburb and you hear police sirens, yeah, something crazy happened, right? But if you live in a city, you hear it all the time, this background noise, because you know there's always shit happening. There's tens of millions of people around. So how are you saying that relates to this? What I mean by that is,

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if you pay attention to it with apps like, you know, next door and citizen and ring and all this stuff, you start realizing that like it's happening all the time and it makes you go crazy. Uh, same with train derailment, same with plane, uh, you know, plane crashes and whatnot. There are, there are normal part of this process and you got to look at the data and, and,

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No, no. This is like look at all the different ethnicities in the USSR. It's to be better at racism.

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Try to figure out if this is like truly unique or not. And in terms of the plane crashes, the deadly nature of some of them is unique. There have been some big ones, right? Like with the Ronald Reagan Airport one. But outside of that, like, you know, minor bumps at the Seattle airport or whatever, like that's normal.

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What do you consider yourself? No, I'm a leftist. That's what I say, where I'm very critical of both parties in general. I don't think that either party really represents my interests. The Democrats sometimes will point to things that I care about, and they are, I guess, a little bit closer to the way I see the world than the Republicans are. But, you know, I'm actively critical of both parties.

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Yeah. Because I don't care. I don't care about party affiliation. I care about like doing right by people. I care about, you know, helping putting the interests of people over the interests of profits for corporations.

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Yeah. I think that there's one thing that transcends party boundaries, and I feel like you exhibit that tendency as well, and that is dissatisfaction with the government and the two-party system anyway.

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And I think Trump also captured the attention of a lot of people by making it seem like he was totally outside of this dynamic, where he was like, I'm an independent, I'm a billionaire, I'm rich, I don't give a fuck about either of these parties, vote for me. And that's why you have a lot of people who love Bernie Sanders, Because he's he's earnest. He's honest.

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And it's obvious that he's not like, you know, a Democratic Party dick rider. And he has a long track record of like constantly doing right by others, constantly advocating for things that like, you know, help people, even if he doesn't have much success. That earnesty has, I think, created this this unique phenomena of people that like Bernie and also Trump, people like yourself, who are

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Yeah, I hate that. God damn it. Racism needs to be so easy.

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who think, well, these guys are anti-establishment.

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Yeah.

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You want to know something crazy about The Apprentice? It was one of the most diverse shows on network television at the time. It literally was one of the first shows that prominently featured a bunch of black and brown people in it. A bunch of gay people in it, too. He was woke as hell. That motherfucker was doing DEI before anybody else. Now he's switched up. You see this?

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Yeah. But then he was president for four years and people were like, oh, okay, maybe this wasn't so good. And then what did the Democrats do? Who did the Democrats put forth? They put forth a cadaver who was like, no, we're going back to business as usual, baby. And Americans were so fatigued by Donald Trump, but they were just like, I don't want to pay attention to the television anymore.

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Yeah, I think it's just extra difficulty now. That's what it is. So you have to be smarter as a racist.

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Like, sure, I'll vote for this guy instead. And then Brandon wins. And then everyone's like, oh, my God, things are awful. Wars all over the place. Biden, you mean? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Biden. I just keep saying Brandon. I'm sorry. I'm so used to I'm so used to calling him Brandon.

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But then I just don't want people to get confused. Yeah, my bad. So Biden comes in and, you know, wars everywhere, cost of living crisis, like a lot of the resentment and anger that people felt in 2016 towards Hillary Clinton because their situation wasn't so great that caused them to vote for Donald Trump. Never. It was left unexamined. Like it was never recognized. It was never fixed. Right.

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So when all the stuff piles on, people are resentful again. And lo and behold, they want to put that mallet, they want to bring the mallet back in to just like hammer the federal government because there's like, we fucking hate this. We hate the way things are going. So we'll give this guy a shot again. And that's how you arrive at Trump too. And now he is doing the mallet.

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He's ripping over the administrative state. He's doing mass layoffs of the federal regulatory agencies. And it's crazy to me that people don't understand that like these are the same people

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problems that have persisted that he's basically worsening um by by also you know removing tens of thousands of people that work for the federal government with like decent paying jobs i'm a big advocate for more government employees i think we should have millions more Not less. Give everybody a fucking job.

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Yeah, yeah.

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They would never do that, though. That's the problem. There was a case for it at one point. Yeah, I know, but I'm saying Republicans especially, Democrats won't do either because both parties kind of like the austerity stuff.

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Austerity is belt tightening, like fiscal belt tightening, as in lowering expenditures and cutting social safety nets, basically.

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Yeah, there's a there's a barrier entry to doing racism. It's like it's unironically a more difficult process now. But what I was going to say is if you want to go back to the to the facial hair chart, bring it up again, please, because I want to know what we're doing.

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Yeah. And that's just what it is. Yeah. It's never been about people, in my opinion. It's like. New Deal with a lot of like socialist communist pressure at the time. FDR's New Deal. Yeah, FDR's New Deal. What was it? Bring it up. FDR's New Deal definitely brought forth a lot of prosperity to America, like got us out of the muck of the Great Depression.

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The New Deal was a series of domestic programs.

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Yeah, he did a lot. Look, he dealt with the pressing bank crisis through the Emergency Banking Act, 1933 Banking Act, Federal Emergency Relief Administration. We set up Social Security. I mean, there's so much. There's so much that they did in that era because Americans were experiencing tremendous, tremendous hardship. So you're saying a lot of this felt like it was done for the people, right?

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Yeah, it was done for the people because it was a necessary... It was basically necessary for them to do this at the time because of all of the deregulation in the banking side with oil barons and all these robber barons basically picking apart... and dominating everyday American existence and the economic collapse that came with that. And then someone had to come in and fix this shit.

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And I think Donald Trump is basically not doing the FDR thing, but the reverse. He's fucking it up and taking it back to like a pre-New Deal era. And giving it more towards corporations, you think? Oh, 100%. I mean, you got Elon Musk right there. He's the richest guy on the planet. He's just... Putting his dick through his weird, ugly, egg-shaped penis through every single regulatory agency.

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Have people seen his penis? I haven't seen that. I don't know. I don't see that kind of stuff. Yeah, they were saying he's got a weird dick. Really? I believe it.

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See, that's the problem. We already have an auditing agency. So these guys unironically created an additional agency, which is redundant, to eliminate redundancy. That's interesting. The unfortunate side of this is that... they don't know what the fuck they're doing.

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So they go in and they just like pull data and they basically make these public declarations about, you know, a billion dollars is going to this or that. Like they, they straight up lied. They were like, Oh yeah, we already cut like $200 billion of funds. And then like the New York times and all these other like actual investigative reporters went in, looked at the data and they were like,

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No, no, that was just a USSR race chart.

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Dude, that's a lot. Like, there's one instance where they claimed that they cut $8 billion, and they actually cut $8 million. Like, how do you carry over so many goddamn zeros? They're just like, ah, fuck it. Who cares? No one will fact check it. No one will look it up.

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I'm not saying all that's true. I think it sucks now. I used to love Twitter. Twitter's gotten bad. It's scary. It was already like – Kind of lame because, like, yeah, when it was owned by liberals, it was, like, also – it also wasn't, you know, the most fun platform, I will say.

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But at least there was, like, some semblance of regulation where it didn't feel like, you know, it didn't feel like the madhouse that it is now where – I mean, I know that it's like my algorithm as well, I'm sure, because I'm in politics. So I see a lot of political shit. But bro, there's like, I mean, here, I saw this this morning.

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There's a guy who straight up said Adam Schiff raped a minor at Chateau Marmont. And it has 70,000 likes. And I'm like, what the fuck? It's like a QAnon thing. I know. I saw that. There's so many. No, it's not even this. There was a dude who like. No, this is. That's not even Adam. That is. That's fucking. If you look at. No, no. That's Anthony Bourdain.

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But what is this one? What do you got? You got the chin curtain? No, you got the goatee. That's what you have.

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They're saying Anthony Bourdain saw him rape the minor. And that's why they actually killed Anthony Bourdain. That's their. QAnon loves talking about how Anthony Bourdain saw like Hillary Clinton chop babies up or whatever. And he was right about to come out against them. But if you look up Truanon, Truanon actually, no, no, Truanon on Twitter. What is Truanon? Is it a cool source?

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Truanon is my friend's podcast. It's the number one anti-pedophilia podcast out there. No way. And then keep scrolling. They posted it. Oh, here it is. Here it is. Awakened Outlaw. That's the one. The witnesses anonymously. One of the most persistent QAnon beliefs is the huge number of people think that, you know, some of us remember when you raped a dead child. 76,000 likes. Bro, that's crazy.

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Like, I fucking hate Adam Schiff, okay? Yeah, Trump's funniest thing is when he calls him Adam shit, okay? I hate him. He's my fucking congressperson. He sucks, all right? Massive pro-Israel guy. That's an insane thing. You are a fucking schizo.

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hypothetically got molested by a... By a sitting American congressperson? Yeah.

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But that's what I mean. It was... It was different crazy before. It was definitely not whatever the fuck this is. And there's so much bottom of the barrel shit too because of the monetization stuff. People...

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One of my favorite, funniest things that I experience all the time on Twitter is, like, you got, like, you know, Genoa Radio or, like, Saving the White Race or We Gotta Save the West accounts, right? Like, they have all these fucking accounts. Every single motherfucker on those accounts is from India.

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Every single motherfucker that does the We Must Preserve the White Race, every single one of them is operating those accounts out of India. Wow. Why, I wonder? What do you mean? Cause you make like 10, $15. That goes a long way in India as opposed to, as opposed to like a, like a real racist in America at another level. Yeah. They're using all of those accounts.

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Like there's all of those big prominent, like, you know, uh, white culture. Oh yeah.

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Well, I don't know about the honkies one, but cause honky seems like, uh, you know, I don't think a dude in India knows what a honky is, but, but I'm talking like the, the, um, the cultural critique, uh, save the white race accounts and all those like defend Europa accounts. Like every single one of them is like, it's like a Malaysian dude. You know what I mean?

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And he's just like, yeah, I'm gonna make $50 this month. That's a big, you know, that's good. Yeah. Yeah. And, and, you know, they post like the, the shittiest fucking videos as well.

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There's so much porn, too.

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Bro, that's.

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You got to resolve that, man. There's nothing wrong with jerking off, especially before you go to sleep. You know, it's like a nightcap.

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I don't know. I mean, I've never – I feel like there's a time and place for that in my regimen, you know what I mean? It's like right before I go to sleep. That's the perfect time to do it. There's never been a moment where I like in the middle of the day, I'm like –

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Shit, I got to crank it. But I feel like a lot of those like porn addiction guys are like that. So I'm like, yeah, it's not it's not for me, but maybe you should stop porn. That's how I feel when I when I hear about some of their stories.

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what the yo that dude needs to be institutionalized what do you mean no put a fucking stray jacket on that motherfucker stop you he's gotta he's gotta be put in a room like like train spotting like he's gotta quit cold turkey like he's quitting heroin in soho that's considered off broadway yeah no no way dude no render him immobile for like a week and Oh, my God.

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The amount of energy that he probably has in there, trapped in there, if he doesn't jerk off for a week, he's going to start levitating. He's going to come out of there like a god.

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Yeah, he's the man. I love Bernie.

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Yeah. Yeah, I love that, especially when, like, dudes have that situation going on, and then they'll just, like, grow out their beard and basically try to, like, line it up so that there's, like, a chin there. It's like, bro, you are not fooling anybody. And I don't even know what to do in that situation. Like, if you got that no-neck edge shit, then you're kind of cooked regardless.

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During RFK's hearing, he claimed that Bernie was taking money from him. Yeah, that's not correct. He never got money from the pharmaceutical industry, like from the big corporate lobbyists. He probably got – So the way this works on open secrets is like – Let me just read it.

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So what that is is the way that when you make a donation to a politician as an individual, it gets filed with the FEC, right? And in that filing, you write what your job is, right? And if you work in the pharmaceutical industry, if you work for Johnson & Johnson as a janitor, that basically gets tracked as like Johnson & Johnson in the...

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uh section of like whichever sector you're a part of so like uh a lot of nurses gave donations to bernie sanders so that's like technically still lobbed under like health care and uh it was not yeah it was never it was never from like the executives it wasn't like executives giving millions of dollars it's like the fucking janitor works there or like you know like an accountant that works for this company but it gets filed yeah so that it looks like that in some sort of

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well they just it's good to have like uh knowing what sectors are donating knowing what sectors are donating but yeah there is room for nuance of course there and um and rfk was falsely claiming that he was getting money from like ceos and like the industry uh industry packs or whatever when that wasn't the case it was just like random people that work for these companies you know

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Yeah.

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I think RFK knows better. I don't, I don't trust any of these guys. I'll be honest with you. Like whether it's RFK, Trump or any number of these people or, you know, Democrats as well, like Kamala Harris, like I think RFK definitely knows better. He's just saying that because it's a good line and people will believe him. And I mean, look, that's how it works.

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I know because like Joe Rogan talked about it, too, where they were talking about like Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders getting money from like these, you know, big pharmaceutical corporations. That wasn't the case, but it got a lot of mileage on that side of the Internet. That's the other thing that I am frustrated by, where there's, like, no consensus on this stuff anymore.

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Like, what does a consensus mean? Like, we all agree on one thing? Yeah, and you don't have to agree on one... Like, not everybody has to get together and agree on the same thing, but, like, there's no established truth anymore, where everybody's just, like, operating on whatever the fuck they think is the truth and heavily leaning into their biases. And I feel like the internet has become...

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way more echo chambered in that regard. And it's very frustrating to see, you know, there's no, there's no,

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But, I mean, good luck. I don't know.

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Yeah, but we're dumbasses. I agree. You know what I mean? I'm stupid. I can't gut check everything. Dude, I can't even fucking keep up with you, dude.

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I think it's good to have a healthy diet of both. You still need to have trusted resources that you can go to and rely on that will every now and then be like, that's wrong. You know what I mean? And I try to urge people to not get their media diet exclusively from me either for that reason. And even my media diet itself is incredibly diverse.

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I probably watch more Fox News than I watch CNN and shit, partially because they're more entertaining. But, you know, I look at everything so that I can develop a better understanding of like what people are saying and what people are believing in general.

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Yeah.

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My my the way I see my goal, like the way I see my job is to basically get people to understand why they're angry and then get angry at the appropriate vectors like where who's actually causing harm in their immediate lives. That's why I actively urge people to unionize and work to organize in their communities and organize in their in their workplaces in general.

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So they have a network of support with like. Not necessarily even like-minded people, but like people that have the same interests, right? You don't have to like your coworkers all that much, but no matter what, your boss is still fucking you over in the exact same way, right? He wants you to work the most amount of hours for the least amount of pay.

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You want to work the least amount of hours for the most amount of pay. This is a contradiction, right? So how do you resolve that? The only way to overcome the unlimited amount of power that your boss has over you is by getting together and being like, hey, man, you got to give us a better contract, right?

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Like those are the things that I advocate for so that people develop a better understanding of who's actually harming them and they improve their lives immediately in the short term and then build on that momentum, right?

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with that said do you think we should have like a higher minimum wage you feel like I mean I think that's one part of this uh story but I do too I've thought about it a lot I've listened to people talk about it yeah I think it's good but that's still a band-aid solution I think like there needs to be more uh labor-backed control in general like unions and stuff yeah labor unions yeah we have we have uh 10 union participation rate in this country is lower

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than other countries that we fucked up, like Chile. We fucked up Chile. We did a coup there. We set up a dictatorship in Chile. And they still were able to unionize more than us. Yeah, and we rewrote their constitution. And they still have a higher union participation rate than we do. They have 15% in Chile. We have 10%.

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Oh, yeah. You have Sean O'Brien? Yeah. He was interesting. I've interviewed him before. I've had some convos on him. He has a podcast now.

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Yeah, otherwise they're going to clean out your pockets. Look, every union member will tell you the motto for unions is united we bargain, divided we beg. You can either go and be like, I'm such a good guy. Please, look at how hard I'm working. And then in the off chance, maybe get recognized by your boss and maybe get a little bit extra money on the side.

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Or you can get together and engage in the act of collective bargaining and force the company's hand into offering you better benefits and basically claw back the profits that you're generating for them. Because without the workforce, you got nothing. What do you think, the fucking CEO is going to build the table? No. You know what I mean?

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He doesn't know the first thing about building tables, right? All it's going to be is a bunch of wood on the factory floor without you, right? Yeah. Workers are the ones who add the value, who generate the value.

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Yeah. So, I mean, AI is a perfect example of this, right? Like it's very disruptive to the to the environment. I don't like that. But more importantly, also on top of that, it's used as a way to displace the existing labor force. Right. Because now you can just get the machine to do the job of the person that was doing the job beforehand. Right.

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I'm an advocate that like, no, you should still keep that person employed, pay him the same amount of money, make him work less. Why? I mean, why are you firing this person now? Because AI is a tool, right? But the way that we, the way that companies work under capitalism is whenever there's a technological advancement like this, Right? This has allowed us to be on 24-7.

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Now you can have so much more output as a worker. Right? You can be online at all times. Productivity rises in that process. Your boss can get a hold of you at all times. Yeah, your boss can get a hold of you at all times. You're more tapped in. You're more aware of what's going on in the world. And you can be a better worker because of that.

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But in that process, bosses look at that and go, okay, now I can make one guy do the work of five. I'm going to fire four fucking people and I'm going to make the one guy do the work of the other four people. And that is how that is under capitalism.

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That's how it works, where they use technological advancements that increase productivity to displace the existing labor force to just basically fire them. And instead of lowering the hours that the existing workforce worked and maybe even increasing their pay in the process, because basically, they're still doing the same work. You know what I mean? And cause they're fucking human beings.

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People call me radical for that.

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count or one of the one of our like bosses or whatever like i want to know what why see because that is fucking overthrowing the system i know but think about the way you presented that you want to count or a boss to to be the leader of the revolution somebody's gonna have to have some sort of i agree but it should be people back revolution

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Oh, yeah, people, but one of us gets mildly elected or something. Yeah, but not a boss or a fucking politician or a count. It's going to be an organizer, an activist, someone with a background, someone who understands the needs of the people.

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Yeah. I mean when conditions worsen to a certain degree, yeah, people go, all right, enough is enough. We're backed into a corner, and they start recognizing that they're being fucked over. But that can also lead to a dangerous path where – Tell me about that.

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Well, the dangerous part about that is like if there if the people are not steered in the right direction to recognize who's actually doing the harm to them, they can be deluded by misinformation and think it's the Jews or think it's fucking Anthony Bourdain.

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Or, yeah, I think it's Adam Schiff who's apparently having sex with dead children in their minds or think it's like the Guatemalan immigrant. You know what I mean? That motherfucker is not controlling your life. He is worse off than you, and he has the exact same interests as you. He just wants to put food in his belly and to have a roof over his head.

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Yeah, yeah. That's what I mean. Like, a Guatemalan immigrant or a Honduran immigrant is not like... He's not dominating your life at all. They're not here to do evil. They're not here to do bad. They're here to just like work. They're fucking pick strawberries all goddamn day. So our asses can eat those strawberries cheap as hell. You know what I mean?

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And then we turn around and we're like, yeah, they're all rapists, drug dealer murderers. We got to fucking purge the country of these people. And it's like, it's really fucked up.

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Trump had them at the victims at the congressional – joint congressional hearing.

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Oh, like the maple version like that? Yeah, the 365, the Whole Foods, that matte finish one. Yeah, the one that looks like a liquor bottle. Yes. Yeah.

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Think about that. We say there's 20 million undocumented migrants in this country. They come from every part of the planet. I agree. They do, no doubt. And to think that they're all one collective hive mind that's here to do evil rapes and shit is psychotic. I'm like, bro... Like, they don't even speak each other's language. Like, what are you talking about?

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Like, they have no unified hive mind here. But you basically learn to think that way. You learn to hate in that regard. And I think the media plays a big role in this, like right-wing media specifically. Is it hate, though, you think?

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That's why they also factor undocumented migrants into the census as well. But if they're fearful of the federal government, if they're fearful of the federal government, they're not going to open the door for a census guy. That's part of the reason why sanctuary cities began to begin with. It was actually advocated for. This is something that this is old lore.

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People don't even know this at this point because everybody thinks like, oh, sanctuary cities is woke, libtard bullshit. Bro, it was the fucking cops and the FBI that was advocating for Sanctuary Cities. Why? Because whenever a murder or some kind of violence happened in an undocumented neighborhood, cops would come in and nobody would talk to them.

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Sanctuary Cities initially were proposed by law enforcement because... they realized that whenever there was violence or drug dealing or a murder that took place in an area where the witnesses were undocumented migrants, they wouldn't talk to the cops because they were fearful that if they talked to the cops, they were going to get fucking deported.

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So in order to open up more collaboration and actually solve crimes like rape, murder, and all these other violent crimes, they were like... We have to tell every undocumented migrant, we're not going to arrest you. We're not going to collaborate with ICE or INS at the time before ICE existed. We are just here to serve you as public servants.

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And that was the reason why it was law enforcement that initially suggested sanctuary cities. It wasn't like woke activists or whatever. And it's so interesting that like now Republicans say – use that as a catch-all term to be like, oh, you're letting criminals go basically. That's what they make it seem like. That's what they imply.

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But they've come to support them for public safety reasons. In the 1980s, when churches in the United States provided refuge for individuals escaping civil unrest in El Salvador, sanctuary cities specifically emerged from protests against federal immigration policies that denied asylum to refugees.

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However, many law enforcement officials, including police chiefs, have advocated for sanctuary policies.

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That's interesting, man.

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Yeah, this is perplexity, but they have all the sources cited.

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I'm not saying one is right or wrong or anything. I don't think it's a bad thing anyway because I'm an active amnesty advocate. I think if – first of all, this is a civil offense. Amnesty. Crossing –

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He didn't seem—he didn't strike me as, like, a very nice guy, but, I mean, who knows? Oh, I'll jump on a hate wagon in a heartbeat, dude. Oh, I know.

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crossing the border is a civil offense right right and you have a five-year period where if you haven't done any crimes like the statute of limitation is over now there's different legal uh there are different legal interpretations of this and people go back and forth on it but like the way i think about it is like if a dude is in here and they're working right and they're not trying to do a you know they're not here to do evil shit they're here to just simply work and

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Give them documentation. The difference between an undocumented migrant and a documented one is just a piece of paper. It's paperwork. Process these people and allow them to contribute to our coffers in more meaningful ways because they already pay taxes, but they could be paying more taxes as well. Do they pay taxes if they're undocumented? Yeah.

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Because they still, I think they still pay into social security because they have to get a social security number, some sort of social security number. They pay for sales taxes, things of that nature. You know what I mean? Like there's a bunch of different contributions that they make and they can't take advantage of any of the government programs anyway. That's why a lot of Republicans lie.

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They'll be like, oh, undocumented migrants are like stealing our, you know, our social safety nets. And I'm over like, I'm over here like, what the fuck? What social safety nets do we have? We don't have health care. Are they taking advantage of health care that we don't have? They don't have health care. The thing is, Republicans will literally factor in their natural born U.S.

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citizen children into the equation to be like, see, they're sending their children to public schools. It's like, bro, that's an American citizen.

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Yeah, one in 15 households in this country is a mixed status household. One in 15.

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Mixed status, like as in one parent is undocumented, like a non-citizen. Oh, yeah.

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Yeah, I mean, there's definitely an incentive structure among politicians to advocate for certain things. But ultimately, I don't really care what the incentive structure is. If the if the legislation is good, if it's a good thing, if Trump were to do a good thing, I would advocate for it as well. You know what I mean? Do you think that's true? Because it seems like I have.

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In the past, when Trump, last time he was president, when he basically said, I'm going to back away from this North Korea, South Korea shit, and I'm going to let you guys handle it on your own. And in the process, he actually reduced the military campaigns that were taking place around the Korean peninsula to allow these two countries to talk to one another.

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It's one country, technically, that we fucking cut in half, but that's a long history lesson I'm not going to get into. North Korea and South Korea? Yeah. Yeah. And that was an objectively good thing. I said it at the time. And Rachel Maddow was very mad. He was like, oh, you're doing this because you love Vladimir Putin or whatever the fuck. But no, that was not a bad thing.

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Let these guys hash it out and let them rebuild their nation. Why the fuck are we... Why do we have 80,000 to 100,000 troops stationed all the time? Yeah, I mean...

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Yeah.

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I'll tell you what made recruitment numbers explode.

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I mean, I know where you're coming from, but what made recruitment numbers explode initially was 9-11. That's it. People joined after 9-11 and after 20 years of just like going out there and guarding like poppy fields and getting your dick blown off by some fucking dude who's hated you because you invaded his country when he was like 14 and probably killed his cousin, you know,

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After 20 years of doing that, everyone was like, oh, this shit sucks. We kind of lost it here, huh? Like we did a Vietnam in Afghanistan and we had to pull out. So and that was a good thing. Objectively, I think it's good that we pulled out of Afghanistan. But I think that's the real reason why people are like, why the fuck would I join the military?

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I can't even get a fucking Charger anymore, you know? A Dodge Charger? The Dodge Chargers. Or was it the Camaro? Were they giving those out? That's the common military car. Oh, that's true, huh? You sign off on one of those. The worst loan of all time. Oh, yeah, dude. I would... And then your high school sweetheart is fucking the neighbor while you're out there. Sometimes, I mean, yeah.

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While you're out there jerking off in a fucking bunker in Korengal.

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That's what I mean. You're like, why the fuck are you doing that? And then you come back and the American government's like, all right, we'll give you healthcare. But now you're busted. You need it desperately. And they're like, all right, we'll pay for your college. Okay. You go to college. You get a communications degree.

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Now you're six years behind the rest of your counterparts, and you're in the same shit-ass job market, sucking the man's dick every day, working a dead-end job that you despise. And you're fucked up. And now every time you go to the grocery store to pick out cereal, you're having a crisis, like a mental health episode. It's fucked up.

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Yeah, I do a little bit of everything.

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Yeah, no, for sure. I don't think that regimen is bad. I'm a very regimented person. I just think that the military's output overall is you're just sending poor people from different parts of the country overseas to go dominate some other poor people so that rich people in fucking California can make more money. So the Raytheon can send more missiles and make more missiles.

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And you got to use those missiles when you make them. If you don't use it, you lose it.

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yeah oh your missiles are going yeah there's somebody said there was an email one time that like oh your missiles are expiring soon you should use them it's like what the fuck but they do that they they any uh if you got homies who uh were active duty they'll tell you like you just dump so much money because they know that like it's gonna go bad yeah like you just fucking shoot it out into the sea if you're in the navy you're just like pop

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that bitch off get out there after lunch today yeah we're gonna fire a couple of these off at an island you're like that's an island like nobody's there yeah you're dumping payload into an island that is more than your salary times 10 because it's gonna go bad how is that not waste and fraud and abuse why the fuck are they not working on that my argument always is this the american military is a jobs program

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you seem very poignant but also like aggressively open to things you know which I think and that's a judgment and maybe I shouldn't have said something like that but anyway I just admire the way that you do things dude so I appreciate you coming and hanging out that's all I should have said thanks for having me I think streamers are basically like the bottom of the totem pole as far as content creators goes like it's definitely laborious but I wouldn't say that it's like super difficult because like

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That's what it is. I think it's the second largest hiring body in the country after Walmart, if I'm not mistaken. It might be the largest. And I think instead of making those guys, making these corn-fed boys from Arkansas go out and force them to eat MREs all goddamn day and be constipated for a fucking week... Make them build shit, you know? Make them build shit in America. It's a jobs program.

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Who cares? Make the output be good rather than bad. That is what my argument is. The world's biggest employer is the Ministry of Defense, U.S.

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Yeah, the Indian Ministry of Defense is the largest, and then the world's second largest employer, I guess the U.S. Department of Defense is bigger than Walmart. Walmart and Amazon.

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I just want like, I, or how things you've learned. I don't hate people. I just want them to, to have better lives. You know what I mean? Even people that I disagree with vehemently, like, I always stress this point where I say Medicare for all means for everybody, right? Even if you're a fucking Nazi, you're going to get health care.

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Even if you don't want health care, I'm going to fucking give you that health care. I don't give a shit, okay? You can cry about it all day, every day. It's just... And I think that's the attitude that other people are supposed to have in this process, too. Like, there's got to be a universality to these proposals because, like...

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I think we got to do right by others, and we are not doing that right now. The American government is not doing that at every step of the process. And that's why the military is a great example of this. We're just using and abusing these dudes and making them do a whole lot of awful shit overseas. So that some rich asshole can make more money, you know? Yeah.

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And then they're broken in that process. They come back. There's no way of, like, repairing them. And we basically lie to them, too. We're like, oh, yeah, you'll get a great job. You'll go to college. You'll be able to uplift yourself. And it's like that should be available without you having to serve in the military. Yeah.

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But if that was available, if free college existed, if free healthcare existed- You wouldn't go to the military. And no fucking buddy is going to the military. Why the fuck would you do that?

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But I mean, yeah, those guys are- But I'm saying you would still have some.

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I don't know. I'm fairly tapped into all of the shortcomings of the American government. And yet I enjoy myself. I mean, I still jerk off before I go to sleep. I still watch anime. I play basketball. I focus on myself. I think like there are certain things that you have control over. And that is your own body, right? Your immediate friends and your family.

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And you should actively work on those things.

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Overall, a Hollywood production, if that is the highest stage of content creation, and you have hundreds of people working all around the world, working around the clock to put two and a half hours of content together where everyone's going to sit there and watch, Twitch streaming is the lowest of the low, where it's just a dude like me, half the time, picking at his crotch, watching YouTube videos, picking his nose.

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to to to basically not lose sight of your own humanity because it's easy to get lost in the sauce in the everyday cruelty that you that you recognize is happening all around and it makes you go crazy and in order to combat that i always urge people to to engage in self-improvement set goals for yourself and try to achieve them that's at least how i've always managed this stuff

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And also being around other people who aren't immediately agreeing to your worldview. Like, I love parks for that reason. I love third spaces. Parks and recreation? No, not like parks and recreation as in like the TV show. I mean like literal public parks. Oh, yeah, dude.

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No, no.

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Trump is firing those guys too, by the way, right now. Like the Army Corps engineers is like what you just described. When there's a flooding happening, like they build the levees, they build the bridges, right? Trump literally is firing those people too. It's crazy. Why is he doing it? Is it because he hates the Army Corps engineers? No, because he doesn't give a shit. That's my point.

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He doesn't care. He's like, yeah, go Elon, do whatever you need to do. Fire these probationary employees. nobody knows what probationary means. So they think like, Oh, you know, it's good. It's good that we're like downsizing a little bit. It's like, no dude, you're going to start slowly, but surely five years down the line, notice it.

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You're going to start noticing that things are just not working. Like air traffic control is a great example of this since the Reagan era. Um, Like the numbers of air traffic controllers, even though air traffic has increased, the number of air traffic controllers have not kept up with the increase of air traffic. So you got towers where there's like one dude.

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There's got to be like 30 dudes in that tower. I don't want the fucking plane. I don't want planes to crash. You know what I mean?

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If that's true, is there less FAA people? No, there's probably more FAA people, especially with like TSA and whatnot. But I'm saying that it hasn't matched up to the rate of air. Like there's more planes in the sky is what I'm saying. When there's more planes in the sky, you need more air traffic controls.

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where she was like, oh, we didn't actually cut the LAFD budget. They did. They cut the support budget. But when you cut the support budget, yeah, sure, you're not cutting the actual firefighters, right? You're not reducing their numbers. But when you cut the support staff budget, you're cutting mechanics.

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When you cut the mechanics and your fucking fire engine is busted, you send it over and it just sits in a goddamn yard for months because now there's no fucking mechanics to fix the goddamn car. So all of a sudden you're down one fire engine. It all works together.

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Trump is a major Israel dick rider. He's not changing that at all.

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Yeah, no, especially in the American government. It's really, really awful. Yeah. Um, I, I want things to get better and I hope it does. But the reason why I say I'm certain that it won't is because like of what you just mentioned, right? 800 billion, $800 billion of Medicare and Medicaid that I want to cut.

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And it's, you know, it's you have to be on for eight hours at a time. And it's like usually one person doing that. And that's annoying. And you got to be like constantly listening to people chirp at you. And that part sucks. But overall, I would say it's like the lowest tier of content, lowest effort of content. Would you say that it's the purest of content, though, in a weird way?

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Mike Johnson goes on stage, says I, uh, goes on Caitlin Collins on CNN and says, Oh, there's a lot of fraud happening. Uh, there's not fraud happening in Medicare and Medicaid on the point of the recipient. It's happening on the point of the providers. And that's why I got banned recently on Twitch yesterday. I saw you got banned, and I saw you just got back.

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Yeah, Libs of TikTok was posting about how I said something, and they misconstrued it as though it was a call to action to assassinate a sitting U.S. senator. Because I said... Um, to Mike Johnson, because I was listening to him back and forth. I said, like, if Mike Johnson actually cared about Medicare fraud, he would tackle Medicare fraud happening at the point of the providers.

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But he's obvious that he doesn't care about Medicare fraud, because if he did care about Medicare fraud, he would break Scott. who is responsible for the historic $1.7 billion worth of Medicare fraud. And is he still working? Bro, he was a corporate executive at HCA at the time in the 90s. The DOJ came after him, and he basically quit his job.

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He got a $10 million compensation package after doing $1.7 billion of Medicare fraud.

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worked in the private sector he got 300 million dollars in stock options didn't see a fucking moment of jail time for that okay and then now and then he became florida governor and now he's a fucking florida senator and he's a prominent figure in the republican party i think he was like their head of their fundraising or some shit i forget what his uh position in the trump campaign and the republican party is beyond the fact that he's a senator

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Oh, for sure. I mean, that's one aspect.

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That guy should be in jail. That's what I think. I think if you do $1.7 billion in Medicare fraud, you should be in fucking jail. What are we talking about? You shouldn't be a Republican senator from Florida.

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Um... Yeah, I mean, look, I don't necessarily care about how much money people have. I care about how they make their money. But no, I agree. How does this guy, how do you keep from... Like this LeBron James. Right. 50,000 points. He crossed over that boundary. 20 plus years of dominance in the league. He gets paid a wage.

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He's a, what is known as one of the few people is like a wage billionaire, basically. If he makes that kind of money, that means he's making somebody else a fuck ton more money, right? And I don't mind that he's getting paid these big bucks, partially because he's my goat and I love him. Okay. And I think he deserves it. But also partially because...

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Like because it's... You can't hide. Yeah, what I do is AM radio. But what I do is basically AM radio, but for Zoomers. That's the way I describe myself. I'm sure you know Rush Limbaugh. Yeah. That's the way that I describe what I do to older people in general, where I'm like Rush Limbaugh, but without the brain rot. Yeah. Quite literally and figuratively. I mean, he did die of brain cancer.

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he's not making that by like hiring people and then forcing them to work to the bone. He does have businesses. He's also obviously an owner of capital as well. So he does a capital accumulation as well. But ultimately I just want people to be comfortable. And I think that if you are working a job and, Like, you should be able to have a house. You should be able to live comfortably.

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And it doesn't matter what job it is. You could be picking up trash. I think that's still obviously valuable. It's worthwhile. Also, I guess sanitation is one of the worst examples because they do have pretty solid unions. Yeah, we had a garbage man on.

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So that part, that's what I'm saying. That part I don't agree with. But I'm saying if he was just making all of his money from just balling and he's getting a wage, who cares? I don't have an issue with that. Especially if the – hold on. I got to open my door. Sorry. Sorry. I got FedEx at the door, and it's raining. I feel bad. Oh, it's raining out there, huh? Yeah. All right, I got it. I did it.

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I did it. We brought them inside. We know who sent the rain in probably, too. What, the weather machine? Oh, the juice?

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See, like, this is another example of, like, you know, you could normally, under normal circumstances, you can make this joke, but then, like, then there's motherfuckers who really believe it. When there's, like, dudes who are like, no, you're... Marjorie Taylor Greene was talking about how they have a weather machine. She wasn't saying Jews, but she was like...

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That would be the saddest. I agree with you. I love comedy. You know, Bill Burr is my goat. Yeah, dude. I think he is, you know, I mean, you're a comedian as well. I'm obviously very good friends with Stavi as well. I know you always link up with him.

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Oh, dude, me too, yeah.

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No, I'm joking. It was so sweet of him.

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Did he also shill his fucking calendars? His naked calendars? Those shits have been sitting on my desk every time. I'll have like... Bro, I'll have, like, you know, prominent figures like activists and shit at my house, and I'm interviewing them. Like, there was Motaza Ziza. I'm interviewing him. He literally survived the genocide. He's a photojournalist from Gaza.

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And fucking Stavi's naked body is just sitting there on the fucking desk. I'm like, oh, my God. Like...

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That's the other thing, yeah. Stealing my people's food, saying it's his.

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It's Turkish.

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Fuck yeah.

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No. I mean, I've talked – well – I mean, you talked to Sanders.

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I talked to Bradley Martin multiple times after. Like, I mean, he – Like I'm not above like going on, you know, right wing podcast. I'm not above talking to people who talk to Trump because I think like I don't care about like the partisanship angle of this at all.

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Did he?

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I want to be able to communicate to people exactly where the problems are and why people like Trump, just like people like Kamala, are not the perfect solution to any of these issues. And I would talk to Trump. I just don't think he would come on my stream like because he is at the end of the day.

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Yeah, he also had a, yeah, he had a hole, I think, in his brain from all the perks. He was perked up. He was a perked up shouty.

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He wants to go on a he wants to go on a show where they're not going to like, you know, push back too much. Right. He wants to come across as like he wants to be humanized. And he wants to come across as like a personality that is not devoid of charisma. And he's very telegenic. It was actually my turning point when I listened to him and you talk about cocaine.

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When you were talking about doing coke and he was like genuinely expressing interest in it. I was like, oh, fuck, this motherfucker's going to win, dude. This podcast shit is working so good. Because first he did the Aiden Ross thing and that was like a bit of a dud. Yeah, I thought that was kind of weird. Because that just like didn't work out at all because it wasn't like a normal conversation.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Yeah, like the whole dancing and stuff in front of the Cybertruck with the photo of him getting shot. I didn't love that either. Like, that stuff, it didn't work at all. But then I saw your podcast, and I was like, oh, my God, this motherfucker is going to win the goddamn presidency.

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Yeah, but that's also because, like, you're not—

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Because you talked to Bernie Sanders like a week before, no? Yeah. That's what I mean. That's what I mean. So it's like you're not going to hit him on shit. You're not going to hit him on stuff that he has no answer for.

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My podcast is a cooperative corporation, so everyone has equal say, equal pay. Yeah. And there are different formations of that. You don't have to make it equal pay, but I just thought it would be the best possible way to go about it. But most importantly, aside from the equal pay, the equal say part is really important. We get together, and if someone has an obligation... They're not showing up.

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It's fine. You know, we make do. We figure it out as we go along. And I think that's how you get the most successful business, like for sure. That's something that I stand by. And we still obviously have to hire contractors every now and then too. Yeah, for sure.

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I don't know. I feel like those guys don't fuck. I don't know why. Unless they're... Unless they're gay. The gay conservatives, like the ones in the closet, like they fuck. Okay, never mind. She's kind of a looker, huh? I mean, she's better looking than him. I mean, that's not saying much. That's true, but still.

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Like the other... uh the other day i had the the no other land the the palestinians who who made a documentary about like they were on your show yeah i had them no we tried to get them i had them on my i had them on my house like i they they rolled up deep they had like 10 people like the whole family was there dude no other friends that's what i'd say dude the fucking we invited

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to you guys yeah they I mean they also like straight up came from you know occupied Palestinian territory like they flew into America and and you know we were chilling we were just like talking about talking about their experiences and I interviewed them and then in the process like the organization that actually brought them here who works with you know a lot of Palestinians on the ground like they were like oh can you share this link to fundraise

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So I did. And in the hour-long interview that we did, we fundraised $100,000. Now it's sitting at $135,000. But that's the type of stuff that I love being able to do because I feel so powerless a lot of times when I see all of this death and destruction. And I feel like it's a meaningful way to be able to help, to actively fundraise.

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It gives myself and a lot of people that watch me the opportunity to say like, You know, at least we're trying to do something, anything. You know what I mean? So I try to do that to the best of my ability. We've fundraised for Palestinian aid organizations to the tune of, I think, like almost more than $3 million at this point since October 7. Wow. Yeah.

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And obviously the margins are incredibly slim for that reason. American Giant? Is that dude does your merch or no? No, it's Bayside. It's my garment manufacturer. My garment provider. It's one of the only union shops that is a garment manufacturer in the country that can like keep up with the demand that we have. Because there's a shit ton of people that are buying the t-shirts.

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And sometimes I'll just... Like I will fundraise like by, by saying all the proceeds, like every single point of profit is directly going to a labor union. Like we, uh, I gave, uh, the Amazon labor union, uh, I think it was like $170,000 or something like that off of just that. Um, we fundraise like, I think Amazon packaging. The Amazon Labor Union, yeah.

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Like the people that work at the distribution facilities. Another thing I did this past year was for, I don't know how to say the name correctly, but RAICES. It's an organization that works with undocumented migrants in Texas specifically. And they give them, you know, translators and lawyers and, you know, they pay for lawyer fees and stuff like that.

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So I'm actively working on fundraising initiatives like that. Uh, because I feel like there's a lot of stories that don't get told in mainstream media. That's why I, uh, interviewed the incarcerated, uh, firefighters, uh, that were combating the wildfires in LA. You know, there's prisoners that fight wildfires, right? Oh, they send prisoners out to fight. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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There's like a training program and stuff. I'm working with, uh, with an organization, uh, to, to go and actually see them at their prison, their training camp. Fuck. Yeah, dude.

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It's so creative, man.

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She kind of looks like, in that photo where they're kissing, she kind of looks like Walter White's wife. You know what I mean?

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No, I love it. The things that I just told you in the last three minutes is exactly why I love what I do, because I have a giant community with a big heart, and I think that that is... What makes everything worth it? Because like I said, there will be people swearing up and down that I'm the worst person that you've ever met, no matter where I go. It's just noise.

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It's mostly people that are online. That doesn't translate to real world experiences at all. But...

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um in spite of all of that in spite of like people constantly working to actively smear me to say i'm anti-semitic or i love terrorism or whatever the fuck with clips out of context and all this shit at the end of the day i get to make an impact and that's how i see sleep soundly at night you know yeah where i where i know that uh all of this is worth it why did jewish friend recommend you to me who's the jewish friend about podcasting they said do not name them

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From Breaking Bad. The blonde-haired lady?

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Yeah. But, like, hotter.

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Yeah, I mean, it'd be weird if you were just like out there Googling Rush Limbaugh's wife. I do that all the time. I look at all my favorite conservative commentators' wives.

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Yeah. I'll say it like this. Back in the day, Joe Rogan used to always talk about how when you do a three-hour podcast, there are so much that people can just clip out of that and then take out of context, like rob it of its nuance and rob it of its context. And it was funny because at the time when he was saying this, podcasting was a relatively new medium.

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I'm talking like 2014, 2015 when he first was building out the Joe Rogan experience, right? Mm-hmm. Every other week, seemingly the media would yell at him over some shit that he said on his podcast. And he was like, we're having an honest discussion. It's three hours. It's back and forth. It's going to happen. Like things are going to get taken out of context.

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I think for Twitch streaming, that's tuned up to 11, where not only am I live, I'm talking about politics, which are, you know, I mean, I'm talking about some really crazy issues, hot button topics. And also, I'm doing that with a live audience who's constantly chirping at me in real time, trying to constantly piss me off.

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And then when they do successfully piss me off, they'll clip that shit and post it on Twitter, post it on Reddit, be like, call out post, call out post. This guy's bad. Look at what he said. And, you know, when you got like crazy dedicated haters, too, especially because you're doing politics in general, you're going to have a lot of crazy dedicated haters.

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They they just do you know, they just compile all of that to be like, this is a bad person over and over and over again. You'll see it in the in the comments section of this video. There will be a ton of people who are going to come in and be like, this guy is a bad dude. Like he said this, he said that because like. The major reason, obviously, for that is because I'm anti-Israel.

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Like, I'm pro-Palestine. I've been pro-Palestine for quite a while, and that really brings out the crazies. Does it really? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You haven't encountered this? I mean, you had Gabor Mate on. Yeah, we had Gabor Mate. We had a rabbi...

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No, for sure. I mean, that's how it's always been though. It's not just for Israel. It's just in general, like when it comes to American foreign policy, the American media is fairly one note. Our politicians are one note on it too. They're bipartisan on that. Right.

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Yeah, yeah. They all agree. It's always uniparty when it comes to American foreign policy, when it comes to giving money to Israel, when it comes to a lot of that stuff, like going to war with Iraq, right? You got the media also presenting that lie that they have chemical weapons, they have weapons of mass destruction, and uncritically reporting on that to justify going to war

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With Iraq going and invading a foreign nation that we had no business invading. Right. So that is that happens all the time.

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Oh, for sure. I think that... Just because people have a voice. Yeah, the independent media sphere definitely is like dominating partially because of that reason. Sometimes for bad reasons, people have lost confidence in media when they just don't like what they're reporting, even if they're reporting the truth. And then there are plenty of major reasons like... Like Jeffrey Epstein's death.