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Chapter 1: Who is Kaitlyn Dever and what are her notable roles?
But I had so much fucking fun on tour. Like I really, really learned how to like balance stuff on the road. And, you know, like I finally I worked out. Like, you know, I feel like I handled myself better. This week's therapist is with Caitlin Deaver. She is in one of my favorite TV shows of all time, Dope Sick.
More recently, she was Belle Gibson in Apple Cider Vinegar, which is about a real person, Belle Gibson. And she basically pretended that she cured her terminal brain cancer first.
through like healthy eating and it was a crazy story and she's from Australia but yeah that's what Apple Cider Vinegar is about so Caitlin Deaver plays this con woman Belle Gibson and like through her lies and eventually being found out and it's fascinating she's also recently announced that she's going to be in season two of The Last of Us which is one of my favorite shows as well and
I just think she's so talented and I'm so happy I got to talk with her. I think she's so fucking cool and like so humble and like awesome. I'm just, she's great. And I'm really excited for you guys to get to know her if you don't already. To see if I'm coming to a city near you, go to pastthatpuss.com and click live with Jake Shane.
And to submit a tell me what's wrong, go to pastthatpuss.com, click tell me what's wrong and tell me what's wrong. Submit a name and number if you're feeling fancy. Enjoy the episode. I love you pussies. Hi, pussies. Welcome back to Therapist. Today, we have one of my favorite actresses. I fell in love with her in Booksmart and Dopesick, but I recently got to see her shine in Apple Cider Vinegar.
She has also recently announced that she is going to be in the new season of The Last of Us. And I think this is announced, right? That you're in the new Godzilla?
It is announced.
It is announced? Great. And she's also in the new Godzilla. Welcome, Caitlin Dever.
Thank you so much.
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Chapter 2: What is the story behind Apple Cider Vinegar and Kaitlyn's role?
So you were just in apple cider vinegar.
Yes.
Which I recently just started.
Right?
That is the craziest story of all time.
It really is. It's a little bit... It's really such a whirlwind kind of story.
And it's based off a true story, right?
Yes. Yes. Well, so yes, it is a true story. We're kind of saying it's a true story based on a lie, is how they started off every episode. But it really... I really felt like a lot of freedom in taking on the role because the...
writer creator sam strauss was so um adamant about creating our own version of bell gibson right right um so i didn't feel like so much pressure to like you know because i don't even think we'll we will ever really know who the real bell gibson is um but it is a she really did do that she really did did she has she said anything about the show
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Chapter 3: How did Kaitlyn prepare for the Australian accent in Apple Cider Vinegar?
The opposite of Australian. No, you're from Arizona. I'm literally from Arizona.
Not Australia. Both start with A's. But was it hard to go in and out of that accent? Like from take to like not take?
Yeah. Yeah. I was deciding what I was going to do beforehand. I was like, I've never had to do this kind of accent before. So I really was like, there was no real formula for, for this or for me specifically, or I didn't know what was going to be right for me. Um, and I kind of thought about that. I just don't know if something about that felt like, I don't think I can actually do that.
Cause there's so much of the like working experience and being on set is, is to me really the community and, and, the family that you build when making these things. And it would be really hard for me to feel like I'm really connecting with my peers and the people at work if I'm, like, in the accent the whole time. Because it's not who you actually are.
Right.
And that would be really hard for me. And, yeah, so I didn't. I stayed away from doing that, so I was popping in and out. And I think I had, yeah, like, I go back to the music thing because I think I really was memorizing it. almost like a song and like the accent felt like singing like notes to me in a lot of ways. Um, so yeah, but I, I, I was going in and out and that was fun.
Like it wasn't, it was, that wasn't too hard. I think it was just like the emotional journey that, that I had to go on and that show was probably the hardest part from day to day.
What was so hard about the emotional journey?
It's really just, like, such a roller coaster. She's all over the place. And, you know, within a day, I was, like, you know, singing a cappella in front of a group of, like, Katy Perry and a group of people. I was, like, crying and screaming and yelling all in one day. And it was just kind of, it was just, like, just a lot to... handle and manage.
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Chapter 4: What challenges did Kaitlyn face portraying complex characters?
How do you switch your mindset from... Remind me, sorry, I watched Opsic when it came out. What was your character's name in it again? Betsy. Betsy. How were you episode one Betsy and then episode eight Betsy in the same day? Because as for those who don't know, the character takes a very intense journey throughout the show.
It was really bangs, no bangs, really. Right, yeah. No, it's much darker than that. Um, I think it was, yeah, I wanted to keep track of the time, but also the withdrawals that she was going through. So sometimes she was like doing a lot better and she was on the up and then she'd have relapse and withdrawals were really intense again. So I felt like I really needed to
keep track of that and um but yeah a lot of it was like oh this is bang betsy and then this is no bangs what was it like working with michael keaton i love that i love him he's honestly like he has been and and and always like just been my one of my favorite actors ever i think i He's kind of I mean, he's done so much work, but I also feel like we haven't gotten enough of Michael.
Agreed.
But I think that like that's why we love him so much. I think he like he does this like amazing movie and then he kind of like tucks away again. And there's something that I feel like I don't know. I really admire that about him. Did you ever see the movie Jack Frost?
Okay, no. And I feel like that's crazy of me because I feel like everybody's seen Jack Frost.
Yeah.
What's Jack Frost about again?
I don't know. He like turns into a snowman. He's like a man turned into a snowman. Is it a Disney one? I have no idea, honestly. But I just remember having this, like, image of him as a snowman. And, like, when he turned into a snowman, he still looked like Michael Keaton because they still kept his eyebrows somehow. But, no, I just was a fan of his.
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Chapter 5: How did Kaitlyn start her acting career and what inspires her?
No, they definitely want to be in the film industry, I think, for sure. My middle sister is an amazing screenwriter, and then my littlest sister. By the way, when I told her, I was like going down the list. I was not fully aware of your podcast. I'm just not with it and what's hip, and you're so hip. Oh, thank you.
And my sister turned red when she thought, when she found out that I, yeah, she was like, no, you're not. She was freaking out. Jane, shout out to Jane. She was like, she was so excited that I was going to be on your podcast. But yeah, she wants to be in like, um, she's actually styling, helping me get styled right now and picking out clothes for me. She makes her own clothes. She's, she's amazing.
She's an amazing woman.
How old are your sisters? Um,
jane is about to be 21 maddie is 26 i always have to figure that out because i'm 28 and we're always just we're just under two years right right right anyway um the stage the stage back to the stage so you guys would write your own plays we would put on our own plays and I really loved like performing with them. And I just loved, like, I don't know.
I just, I really just, I loved singing and kind of making a fool of myself all the time, embarrassing myself, um, And I really, yeah, I, I, I really want it. I, I knew acting was like a thing that you could do. And it's crazy to think back on, you know, being that young and knowing that this is what I want to do. Cause that does not, I know I realize how, how rare that is. And that doesn't,
happen for everybody. And I, I really can't explain why I wanted to do it. But my, my mom, when I first, I mean, she actually told me this like four or five years ago, she was like, um, cause I used, she said I used to stare at people, uh, like when I was little and she almost like, it got so bad at a point where she was like, I feel like I got to like tell her, she can't be doing that.
Cause that's a little bit, she was like, this is This is really becoming like a consistent thing. And then she she told me that I realized you were probably doing I didn't ever stop you because I realized you were probably doing it for a reason, which really is like so I think is so beautiful. But also, yeah, I really did.
I was fascinated by, like, people's mannerisms and the way people walked and the way people sounded. And I would make fun of my, like, elementary school teachers all the time. Like, I, you know, I just, like, I don't know. I was just fascinated by people and the idea of playing different people. And I think I... And really, yeah, I wanted to explore that. And thankfully, my parents allowed me to.
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Chapter 6: What was Kaitlyn's experience working with Michael Keaton and other actors?
I really... It was such a cool experience. It really was. It was such a privilege to get to kind of step into this new world that is so loved, so deeply loved by so many people who are fans of the game. And then there is a whole group of people that are also just fans of the show who haven't played the game.
so it really is so it feels so massive and that's the first time i've really ever done something like that and to get to be a part of that is really cool um and my dad is a really big fan of the video game oh really yeah he loves the video game so much so getting to like take on the role of abby he was like so stoked that i got this part um
And yeah, I think I, I, it was a crazy, honestly, to be quite honest on this podcast here, I, it was, it came into my life at a really crazy, really just insane time. I had, I had lost my mom back in February of last year and I was, I like had already started prep on this show and before my mom had passed and then she passed away and then I had to literally like go and shoot right after.
And I was like, it was such a, it was such a, like truly such a whirlwind. And, but I remember talking to my dad about like having to go to work after something so catastrophic and, And my dad was like, I don't think there's a group of people that could have been better for, to like carry you through that time.
It truly was like, it really felt like I was being carried through in such a gentle and beautiful way. And I don't, Yeah, I don't know what that would have been like had it been another job, truly. I loved the group of people that I got to work with. Craig Mazin is amazing. Neil Druckmann is incredible. Bella is so sweet. And Pedro, I just, yeah.
Pedro, I really, really connected with him in a really big way. He seems awesome, yeah. He's everything you want him to be and more. I mean, truly, what a special human being.
And the last of us coming out this spring.
Yes, April 13th.
I'm like on edge here myself. I'm like, I don't know. I don't know what I'm allowed to say. But no, it's coming out April 13th.
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Chapter 7: What is Kaitlyn’s involvement in The Last of Us and how did she prepare?
Yeah, today is Monday, and yeah, it is Tuesday there. Do you feel like so... Glad we got that cleared up.
You feel like fast-forwarded there?
Yeah, you feel like it's because you're ahead in time, you're a whole day ahead, but also... you're physically so far from like California. Like I was, it's, it's, it's a long way home.
What's the food like there? Is the food good?
It's great. The weather was great. I think I've shot, so I shot Apple Cider Vinegar in Melbourne, which is very different from Queensland, which is where I'll be again for Godzilla. Queensland, I was, I shot Take It to Paradise, should I say.
Wait, so you've like been to Australia?
I've been, yeah, I've been, I was just there. For what? For press.
Oh, got it, got it, got it, got it.
Yeah. yeah, I go, I go there a lot. I go there a lot.
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Chapter 8: What upcoming projects does Kaitlyn have and what are her thoughts on filming in Australia?
I love McGee.
Oh my God.
Louise loves McGee too.
Did you see McGee's SNL performance?
Actually, yes. I remember seeing him perform on some TV thing. It was definitely SNL.
Have you seen Are You Looking Up YouTube music? No. The YouTube music video?
Have you seen that?
I've never seen it.
Oh, God. I'll have to, like, send it to you because I'm going to get your number after this. Yay! But if that's okay. Yeah, but yes.
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