The Ultimate Human with Gary Brecka
169. Robert F. Kennedy Jr.: How to Fix America’s Health Crisis as HHS Secretary
Tue, 27 May 2025
Imagine a world where health agencies serve people, not profits…could that be the key to ending America’s chronic disease epidemic? In this episode of the Ultimate Human Podcast, I sit down with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. (RFK Jr.), HHS Secretary and the leader of the Make America Healthy Again (MAHA) movement, to unpack the shocking truth behind our $1.9 trillion sick care system. Don’t miss this episode for a deep dive into fixing America’s health crisis! Subscribe for more health optimization content, and join the movement to reclaim your vitality. Are you ready to question Big Pharma’s narrative and take control of your health today? Ready to take back control of your cellular biology? Join my FREE 3-Day Ultimate Detox Challenge starting June 23rd. Sign up here: https://bit.ly/3ZgCW4u Join the Ultimate Human VIP community and gain exclusive access to Gary Brecka's proven wellness protocols today!: https://bit.ly/4ai0Xwg Get Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.’s books here: https://theultimatehuman.com/book-recs Connect with Robert F. Kennedy Jr.: Website: https://bit.ly/4jUg5UK YouTube: https://bit.ly/43sBcrm Instagram:https://bit.ly/3RY6WOF Facebook:https://bit.ly/42Q2fNc TikTok: https://bit.ly/455VRCN X.com: https://bit.ly/4k7rq3l Thank you to our partners: H2TABS - USE CODE “ULTIMATE10” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/4hMNdgg BODYHEALTH - USE CODE “ULTIMATE20” FOR 20% OFF: http://bit.ly/4e5IjsV BAJA GOLD - USE CODE "ULTIMATE10" FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/3WSBqUa EIGHT SLEEP - SAVE $350 ON THE POD 4 ULTRA WITH CODE “GARY”: https://bit.ly/3WkLd6E COLD LIFE - THE ULTIMATE HUMAN PLUNGE: https://bit.ly/4eULUKp WHOOP - GET 1 FREE MONTH WHEN YOU JOIN!: https://bit.ly/3VQ0nzW MASA CHIPS - GET 20% OFF YOUR FIRST ORDER: https://bit.ly/40LVY4y VANDY - USE CODE “ULTIMATE20” FOR 20% OFF: https://bit.ly/49Qr7WE AION - USE CODE “ULTIMATE10” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/4h6KHAD HAPBEE - FEEL BETTER & PERFORM AT YOUR BEST: https://bit.ly/4a6glfo CARAWAY - USE CODE “ULTIMATE” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/3Q1VmkC HEALF - GET 10% OFF YOUR ORDER: https://bit.ly/41HJg6S BIOPTIMIZERS - USE CODE “ULTIMATE” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/4inFfd7 RHO NUTRITION - USE CODE “ULTIMATE15” FOR 15% OFF: https://bit.ly/44fFza0 GENETIC TEST: https://bit.ly/3Yg1Uk9 Watch the “Ultimate Human Podcast” every Tuesday & Thursday at 9AM EST: YouTube: https://bit.ly/3RPQYX8 Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3RQftU0 Connect with Gary Brecka: Instagram: https://bit.ly/3RPpnFs TikTok: https://bit.ly/4coJ8fo X.com: https://bit.ly/3Opc8tf Facebook: https://bit.ly/464VA1H LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/4hH7Ri2 Website: https://bit.ly/4eLDbdU Merch: https://bit.ly/4aBpOM1 Newsletter: https://bit.ly/47ejrws Ask Gary: https://bit.ly/3PEAJuG Timestamps: 00:00 Intro of Show 06:17 US Healthcare Budget and Death Rate Ratio 11:48 Tobacco Industry Diversifying into the Big Food Industry 14:19 FDA No Longer Serving the Public Interest 17:51 Reorganization of the Agency to Recalibrate 23:17 Taxpayers Paying for Big Pharma’s Advertising 28:03 Addressing the Corruption in Nutritional Research 35:11 Ending the War with FDA against Alternative Medicine 37:38 What does it mean to you to be an “Ultimate Human?” The Ultimate Human with Gary Brecka Podcast is for general informational purposes only and does not constitute the practice of medicine, nursing or other professional health care services, including the giving of medical advice, and no doctor/patient relationship is formed. The use of information on this podcast or materials linked from this podcast is at the user’s own risk. The Content of this podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical condition they may have and should seek the assistance of their health care professionals for any such conditions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What is America's health crisis and its impact?
The food that we're eating is not food anymore. It's a food-like substance that was manufactured or created in laboratories. It is not nutrient dense. It's nutrient anemic.
And you're not releasing any GLP-1. You're not getting any satiation. You're not nutrient dense, so your body's not saying, hey, I'm full. I'm satiated. I should stop eating.
The tobacco companies, they would mimic the taste of things that are very appetizing. They would do it with chemical compounds, and they switched to doing that for food. And they started developing all of these chemicals that hijack your brain and trick your body.
Well, we have an agency that stands between us and those people, so those things would never make it into the food supply.
The FDA was no longer serving the public interest or public health. It had ceased being a public health agency.
That's the difficult part for an agency like yours to get into the private sector.
First of all, the pharmaceutical companies are advertising products that are being paid for by the taxpayer. And they advertise all these drugs on television. The person who's going to get the bill for that drug is my agency.
There's so much going on in the media and in this Make America Healthy Again movement, what they can expect to see from a public policy perspective.
Chronic disease is the destination of most federal expenditures in terms of health care. The etiology ultimately of all that disease is...
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Chapter 2: How does the FDA serve the public interest?
During COVID, we have the highest death rate of any country in the world. That's astounding. We had 16% of the COVID deaths, and we only have 4.2% of the world's population. We literally had the worst record of any country in the world. It's a wonder that people are getting awards and recognition and kudos for managing COVID. Whatever we were doing, it was utterly wrong.
And if you ask CDC, you know, why did we die at higher rates? We died at rates that were, in some cases, like Haiti had a death rate. Haiti, if you remember at the beginning of the pandemic, we were told the poor countries of Africa are going to be devastated by this because they can't get a hold of the vaccines. Haiti is the poorest country in the atmosphere. It had a 1.3% vaccination rate.
So virtually nobody got a vaccine. Right. They had a COVID rate of 14 deaths per million population. We had a death rate of 3,000 per million population. American blacks had a death rate of probably 3,600 per million population.
That is incredible.
We had 200 times death rate of Haiti. We had 200 times death rate of Nigeria, which had a 1.4% vaccination rate. Oh, and there's other reasons for that. Those are younger populations, which were less affected by COVID deaths. They're out in the sun more and they've got a lot of other, you know, advantages in that situation. But, you know, there's something wrong with our country.
Africa is a whole at about 360.
There were high morbidity death tied to deficiencies in vitamin D3.
There was a direct inverse correlation between vitamin D saturation and COVID mortality. And we're the only country in the world that has, and in history of the world, where obesity is also correlated with malnutrition. Because the food that we're eating is not food anymore. It's a food-like substance. And a lot of it was manufactured or created in laboratories.
And that no longer, it is not nutrient dense. It's nutrient anemic. And, you know, I watched this happen because I was part of the tobacco litigation back in the late 1980s. And the tobacco companies at that point were the most cash-rich companies in the world. They were the richest in terms of their cash resources. It was an immensely profitable industry. Yeah.
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Chapter 3: What role does Big Pharma play in healthcare?
Chapter 4: How can we fix the nutritional research corruption?
The biggest agency of government. It's twice the size of the Pentagon. It's got a $1.9 trillion budget. And, you know, the irony of that is we spend more on health care in this country than any other country in the world per capita. Two to three times what most European countries spend. And yet we have the worst health of any country in the world.
We have the highest chronic disease burden on Earth. And that, as you know, bleeds over into infectious disease, which has been really... Infectious disease has been the focus of most federal expenditures in terms of research. Chronic disease is the destination of most federal expenditures. in terms of healthcare.
We have a sick care system in our country, and the ideology ultimately of all that disease is corruption. And it's the capture of these agencies, the industries they're supposed to regulate, those industries, the pharmaceutical industry and the medical cartel,
have transformed NIH, CDC, FDA, and ultimately CMS, which administers Medicare, into essentially sock puppets for the industry and profit centers. And they've commoditized the American public and turned us all into patients. Yeah.
Profitable patients.
Yeah, it's been very profitable for them. When my uncle was president, I was a 10-year-old boy. And during that era, we spent zero on chronic disease at that time in history. There really were no cure. The first treatment for chronic disease was, ironically, it was the pill. Yeah. It was the first time you took a pill, you know, regularly.
Well, the first treatment for chronic disease was the pill.
Well, yeah, it was the first kind of long-term treatment that you took over a prolonged period of time. And we spend, when my uncle was president, we spent zero on chronic disease in this country. Today, it's probably $1.6 or $7 trillion a year. It's about 90% of our healthcare budget. And we have the highest chronic disease burden of any country in the world.
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Chapter 5: What are the statistics on chronic disease in America?
Because if you get NIH funding, it is anointing you as a good, legitimate scientist. I
love that that now our public policy research institutions can actually be the hallmarks of of properly conducted research and a place that we can actually rely on information i'm i'm there is nothing i hate more than having to to divert this podcast i know we we've got a ufc fight that we're going to first of all this was totally spontaneous you know you you came to my house today before the before the fights and uh we had some fun biohacking with you and your family uh
And, you know, by the grace of God, you agreed to come in and sit down with me for a few minutes. And I know that my audience in the market really appreciates it. But Robert Kennedy, you are doing God's work.
And there are a lot of people in this country that are praying for you and for your success and, you know, praying for you to stay strong and stay on your purpose and your passion and your mission. I was particularly touched by your testimony to Congress when you were going through your hearings.
One of the comments that you made, which I think just exacerbated your conviction to helping heal America, was how you woke up every morning and you dropped to your knees and you prayed for the opportunity that God would give you to be in the position that you're in now. Now here you are. And it's a great honor to just sit across from you and have gotten a moment to ask you a few questions.
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And, you know, I thank you for what you're doing. And we're going to end the war at FDA against alternative medicine.
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