The Ultimate Human with Gary Brecka
153. Patrick Bet-David: Fixing America’s Health Crisis and Biohacking Your Business
Tue, 01 Apr 2025
What if two opposites could fix America’s health crisis and spark your purpose? I sat down with Patrick Bet-David and explored how Donald Trump and Robert Kennedy Jr. united for “Make America Healthy Again.” Why care? We’re the sickest nation, ranked 66th in life expectancy, with soaring childhood cancer rates. RFK Jr. is right: there are no Democratic or Republican kids…just kids. Patrick risked it all by building Valuetainment. Authenticity and purpose drive impact and to find your “why” and go all in. So, what’s your “why” and are you bold enough to chase it, no matter who’s watching? Join the Ultimate Human VIP community and gain exclusive access to Gary Brecka's proven wellness protocols today!: https://bit.ly/4ai0Xwg Connect with Patrick Bet-David: Get Patrick Bet-David’s books here: https://amzn.to/42cZAeP Listen to "PBD Podcast" on all your favorite platforms! YouTube:https://bit.ly/44cyRS2 Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3RtB04k Apple Podcasts:https://apple.co/4jx9cIz Connect with Patrick Bet-David: Website: https://bit.ly/421BVOc YouTube:https://bit.ly/44cyRS2 Instagram: https://bit.ly/4iZji4T TikTok: https://bit.ly/3FQ3H95 Facebook: https://bit.ly/41Vmys5 X.com: https://bit.ly/4lc5fKE LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/4jfwMct Thank you to our partners: H2TABS - USE CODE “ULTIMATE10” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/4hMNdgg BODYHEALTH - USE CODE “ULTIMATE20” FOR 20% OFF: http://bit.ly/4e5IjsV BAJA GOLD - USE CODE "ULTIMATE10" FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/3WSBqUa EIGHT SLEEP - SAVE $350 ON THE POD 4 ULTRA WITH CODE “GARY”: https://bit.ly/3WkLd6E COLD LIFE - THE ULTIMATE HUMAN PLUNGE: https://bit.ly/4eULUKp WHOOP - GET 1 FREE MONTH WHEN YOU JOIN!: https://bit.ly/3VQ0nzW MASA CHIPS - GET 20% OFF YOUR FIRST $50+ ORDER: https://bit.ly/40LVY4y VANDY - USE CODE “ULTIMATE20” FOR 20% OFF: https://bit.ly/49Qr7WE PARKER PASTURES - PREMIUM GRASS-FED MEATS: https://bit.ly/4hHcbhc AION - USE CODE “ULTIMATE10” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/4h6KHAD HAPBEE - FEEL BETTER & PERFORM AT YOUR BEST: https://bit.ly/4a6glfo CARAWAY - USE CODE “ULTIMATE” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/3Q1VmkC HEALF - GET 10% OFF YOUR ORDER: https://bit.ly/41HJg6S BIOPTIMIZERS - USE CODE “ULTIMATE” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/4inFfd7 RHO NUTRITION - USE CODE “ULTIMATE15” FOR 15% OFF: https://bit.ly/44fFza0 Watch the “Ultimate Human Podcast” every Tuesday & Thursday at 9AM EST: YouTube: https://bit.ly/3RPQYX8 Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3RQftU0 Connect with Gary Brecka: Instagram: https://bit.ly/3RPpnFs TikTok: https://bit.ly/4coJ8fo X.com: https://bit.ly/3Opc8tf Facebook: https://bit.ly/464VA1H LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/4hH7Ri2 Website: https://bit.ly/4eLDbdU Merch: https://bit.ly/4aBpOM1 Newsletter: https://bit.ly/47ejrws Ask Gary: https://bit.ly/3PEAJuG Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 03:11 Patrick Bet-David’s Back Story 11:54 Power of Networking 13:59 Amplifying Your Message on Social Media 22:30 Using Social Media to Converse about Differing Political Views 30:58 Personal Decisions and Taking Risks 36:21 Advice for Couples Going into Business Together 43:30 Biohacking and Wellness Habits 47:50 Impact of Technology on Children 1:01:18 Creating True Sales Leaders 1:08:01 Final Question: What does it mean to you to be an “Ultimate Human?” The Ultimate Human with Gary Brecka Podcast is for general informational purposes only and does not constitute the practice of medicine, nursing or other professional health care services, including the giving of medical advice, and no doctor/patient relationship is formed. The use of information on this podcast or materials linked from this podcast is at the user’s own risk. The Content of this podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical condition they may have and should seek the assistance of their health care professionals for any such conditions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: Who is Patrick Bet-David and what is his backstory?
He shoots the podcast in his hangar because we're right next to the private FBO here. But this is a guest that I've wanted to have on for a long time. I actually connected with him face-to-face for the first time at a UFC fight. Dana White introduced us backstage, and we agreed to get together. It was a hard time lining our schedules up, but now it's finally happened. I could not be more excited.
Welcome to the podcast, Patrick Pitt Davis. It's great. to be here, man. Dude, it's great to be here. We just shot your podcast with me.
Two and a half, which, by the way, was absolutely sick. Everybody in the back is just talking still about how to podcast. I drank hydrogen water for the first time. Yes, you did. How did you feel? I feel great.
Yeah, I told you. It drops your inflammation. It gives your brain that break that it needs. It kind of wakes you up. It's almost like caffeine, but it's non-stimulatory. I'm a huge, huge fan of hydrogen gas, hydrogen tablets in your water. I'm going to go 30 days. I'm committing to it. 30 days. All right. I'm going to send you a 60-day supply. You go 30 days.
And you let me know honestly what you think after that 30 days.
I definitely will.
I promise you it's such a game changer. There are so many directions that we could go on this podcast. I mean, I've actually been a fan of yours quite a while. I love the authenticity in your message. I love how direct you are. You're an incredible interviewer.
I mean, it was one of the best podcasts that I've ever been on because I felt like you really drew out of me what the audience wanted to hear. One of the common themes that I find runs through all of my podcasts is you know, and I interview some of the brightest minds in longevity, aging, bio-optimization, whatever you want to call it, is that they solve some kind of major problem in their life.
And because of that, they're so passionate, they're so driven, they sort of find God's purpose for them in some kind of event in their life. And there was a tipping point. A lot of times it's, you know, they had Lyme disease, and they couldn't get help from the modern medical system, and they fixed it themselves.
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Chapter 2: How did Patrick Bet-David build his media empire?
For me, I really needed my military. Drill sergeants put me in my place. Drill Sergeant Green and Drill Sergeant Purtle. I was able to find Purtle on Facebook, but not Green. They put me in my place. It was very, very good for me to be in the military. Then I got out. I said, I want to win Mr. Olympia.
So I went to the Mr. Olympia, and I started asking the guys, all these Aaron Baker, Cormier, all these guys. What do I need to do to compete? What do I need to put in my body? And then I have to go in there. We're very honest about it with me. I'm like, dude, I'm six, four and a half. I'm tall. Most of these guys are five, eight, five, nine. And bodybuilding, you can't be too tall.
If you are, you have to be 350, 400 off season. That's too much weight on my heart. My dad had a heart attack. So I'm like... I'm not doing bodybuilding. I got out of bodybuilding.
I started working on Morgan Stanley Dean Woodard day before 9-11, went into financial services, eventually started my own insurance company, grew it from 66 agents to 50,000 agents, and I sold it two and a half years ago. And part-time I started a media company, then consulting for a minute, and now we have this whole playground here that we're building.
Yeah. I mean, you've got a true media platform. You know, some people think of it just as a podcast. I actually just joined your Manect, which is pretty incredible. It's just a way for you to have more and deeper, meaningful connection with your audience, because I'm always trying to amplify my message. And I was really fascinated by this.
this app that you've developed because it allows people to have direct connectivity to you and allows you to kind of scale your voice. So I appreciate that. So what is the impact, the direction? What is the meaning behind all of this? I mean, in a perfect world, is Patrick Beck David going to Train entrepreneurs, inspire entrepreneurs to build better businesses.
You know, what's the objective of what you're building here? That's a good question.
So for me, you know, I've made money, and I've made money. I've had exits. I've had eight-figure exits, and then we had our multi-nine-figure exit, which was life-changing. So when you have a life-changing situation like that, I didn't buy a new car when I sold my business. I didn't buy a new house. I was already living in my house. There's nothing...
that I bought, which was significant to change my lifestyle, right? Yes, you know, minority owner of the Yankees. I had two rounds that I was able to buy into, great. So spring training right now, I'm talking to the CFO of Yankees to see when I'm going to be going to be there to see the games and the players and all this stuff. That happened. A few things that happened. But for me...
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Chapter 3: What are the challenges and impacts of discussing politics publicly?
This guy, he just posted a video on Instagram.
150,000.
Okay. I want you to see this. Look at my phone here. Look at my phone over here. How many likes is that? 8.8 million? 8.8 million likes. Look how many comments. Can you show the comments, Rob? 880,000 comments. What? That video got. Look at the number of views it got. 327 million views. Holy cow. By the way, it is the most viewed video on Instagram in 2025. What? This is the power. So watch this.
And it's in Portuguese. I mean, the Portuguese distribution. That's the point. It's a smaller distribution than what we have. I'm in Brazil with them, in Brasilia, the capital. We're walking around with them. You can't go anywhere without people stopping this guy. No one knew who this guy was. Like this. Why has he exploded? Because today, if you have a message, the audience will find you.
Ron Paul told me maybe one of the most profound things when I interviewed him seven, eight years ago. I said, Ron... You're a person that delivers babies. How did you go from being this guy to now end the Fed, economy, libertarian, all that? How did that happen? He says, when I'm delivering babies, one day there's a speaker about finance and friend invites me to go listen to him.
So I go listen to him. When I listen to him speak, This guy's phenomenal. He starts recommending me books. Every single time he speaks, I order all the books. One by one by one, I'm reading the books. And I go back a month, two months, three months, six months. He says, eventually, I am so obsessed, I cannot get this information out of my mind. I said, so what did you do?
He said, so I went back to ask the guy a question. I said, hey. I'm a doctor. I'm a gynecologist. I give birth to babies. But I can't stop thinking about all this stuff you do. What do I do with all this information? The guy gave him the most profound advice. He said, let me tell you how the world works.
As long as you talk about what you believe in and you do it enough times, the right people will find you and learn how to use you. Wow. What happened to Ron Paul? Doge, the Department of Governmental Efficiencies, may be an idea that Ron Paul came up with many years ago. Think about it. Think about what his son does. Think about what happened to him writing a book, End of Fed.
He's one of the most influential politicians in the last 10, 20 years. This guy ends up raising $6 million on MySpace in 24 hours, breaks the record for $6 million before he ran for president. I think this is in 04 or 03. Ron Paul is who we're talking about. Where am I going with this? You have a message. And the audience keeps finding you. And we're going to come to you to find a message.
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Chapter 4: How can authenticity drive business and personal success?
He's trying to reduce the rates of childhood cancer, trying to clean up the food supplies, trying to get the corruption out of our nutritional research. You know, how do you watch and listen to that man? Now, if you want to talk about what he thinks about big oil and green energy, I get it. You know, or, you know, transgender women in sports. These are these are like hot topics, you know, abortion.
We're talking about the nation's children. He says things like there's no such thing as Democratic or Republican children. There's children. And you look at the state of our nation right now, ranked 66th in the world in life expectancy, spending the most amount of money of any other civilized nation in the world.
How is it that people are so myopic that they can actually hate this person for being politically affiliated with somebody else and not see the message that he's driving?
Yeah, so, I mean, a part of that is normal. You know, I remember when everybody, when I started talking about politics on PBD Podcast, I'm like, look, I want to talk current events. I got some questions. I got some thoughts. If you like it, great. If you don't like it, let's see what happens. You know what happened? Initially, I took a massive dip initially. It was scary. You're like, whoa. Yeah.
What just happened? That's what happened to me with that picture. That was weird. And then all of a sudden, Gary, the level of people that came out because they felt that you had, the brass to talk about things that matters to them, they're like, let me just tell you, I used to follow your business content, but the fact that you went over here, I'm like, what is he doing with this stuff?
I respect the fact that you're talking about because I'm going through it right now. It's very important. When people stop me now, they don't stop me for the business content. They don't stop me now for entrepreneurship. They don't stop me. They stop me purely for what we talk about on Peabody Podcast. I can't even tell you how much that is right now. I'm not even kidding with you.
It's a very different thing that happened. However, so let's go through it. So in life... You're either going to find people that are interested in wanting to improve and entertain other ideas. You know what? Let me see what he has to say. Let me see what he has to say. Let me see what he has to say. You're going to have people that want to have nothing to do with you if you choose a side, okay?
And you're going to have those that are going to be with you no matter what, your ride or dies. Your ride or die community is always going to be the smallest community, okay? The people that want to have nothing to do with you can change their mind years later. They may start off saying, man, I can't stand what he has to say. You know what? He's growing on me. You know what? I like the guy.
I like the guy. It's kind of what happens, right? I don't go away. I have the same message over and over again. So the part with the audience is that's their choice what they're going through. Also, sometimes as we're living our lives and certain things happen, There are certain shifts that happen in business and in life.
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Chapter 5: What is the Make America Healthy Again movement?
create a legacy after you've already built the enterprise. I've also heard you talk a lot about the impact of social media on your kids, most of the time referring to your daughters. What are some of the things that you do to kind of limit their exposure to social media or kind of curtail what they're going on without being the bad dad? You know, the big Grinch.
It is tough. And I've talked to my wife, my nanny, and my dad. And I tell them, I'll have serious conversations with them. I said, guys, please do me a favor. I don't mind being the bad guy. Just prevent me from always being the bad guy. Don't always call me to be the bad guy. They're not going to take a shower. They're not getting up. They're not doing this.
Why don't you find a better way to do this?
You better wait until your father comes home. That's it. My mom used to say that my whole life growing up. I hated it. I know.
And I don't want to be that all the time. I'm very comfortable being it, but I don't want to be that all the time. So what does it mean to do? Our kids, you know, I have a 13-year-old, 11-year-old son, eight, three-year-old daughter, right? Every one of my 13-year-old sons all have cell phones, smartphones. Every one of my 11-year-old all have cell phones except for one.
The eight-year-old, most of them have cell phones except for two or three. And then obviously three-year-old is a three-year-old. None of my kids have a cell phone. And the oldest is 13. They don't have a single cell phone, not a smartphone, not a cell phone, nothing. They don't have anything. And so they're not accustomed to what it is to have a cell phone. It's very intentional.
I read a book called – what is the name of the book, Rob? The one – What is the name of the book that has to do with cell phones and women and kids and girls that I always talk about? What is the name of that book? It was written by Jonathan Haidt. The moment you see it, you're going to be like, I can't believe it. Anxious Generation. Anxious Generation. Have you ever read that?
No, but I believe just in the title I'm going to love it. Let me tell you, you will not be able to put this book down. I can't tell you how many times I've driven parents to read this book. He breaks down all these systems.
What's the overview of it say right there?
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Chapter 6: How to amplify your message and build a community?
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Make sure you get the ultimate human version. Now let's get back to the ultimate human podcast. You know, I find myself involved in the journey of so many entrepreneurs. I mean, there's sort of two times that they plead for me to come into their life. One is, you know, they're on their journey and something about their current state of health is interrupting their business journey.
And they're usually not paying attention to it beforehand. They're paying attention once something becomes serious. You know, they went and got a cardiac exam, they found they had a blockage or they could diagnose with an autoimmune condition or they just look in the mirror one day and they're like, holy cow, I'm 48, 50 pounds overweight. I don't even know how I slowly got here.
And they'll solicit my help and we'll go on this journey together. But interestingly, as... My message has grown and the caliber of people I interact with has grown. A lot of the entrepreneurs that I'm starting to find in my sphere are people that have actually had a big exit. and now struggle with finding a purpose. And so I wonder if you might talk about that.
Like everybody talks about the journey. Nobody actually talks about the post journey, right? It's like, how do you find validity? And how do you find?
So it's two years ago, I'm hosting my vault conference. It's a conference we host every year. We had The Rock at the event this last year at Palm Beach Convention Center. We had Tom Brady at the previous one, and then we'll do the next one at Gaylord. I think I saw Tom talk at your thing. Right, and then we're doing Gaylord Orlando this September. We'll have 12,000 people there in September.
But two years ago, I won the events. I'm walking around. Everybody gets this 200-page playbook that everybody fills in. It's very intense. So I see one guy is not filling nothing out. I said, what are you doing, bro? I said, you bought a pretty expensive ticket here. What are you doing here? I said, fill out the stuff. He says, look, I just, I really need to talk to you.
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