The Tucker Carlson Show
Bishop Barron on the New Pope, the Foolishness of Atheism, and Why Young Men Are Turning to Christ
02 Jun 2025
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Do you think that Christian persecution is on the rise?
Oh, I know it is. It's documented. 20th century was the worst century for Christian martyrs of Christian history, all the previous centuries combined. It's the most persecuted religion. If two friends like each other, that's fine. But Aristotle says that won't last, that relationship. What makes it last is when the two friends together fall in love with a transcendent third.
And now together we look to that. Now we really find a bond. When the bride and groom together look to Christ, now they'll stay married. If they're just looking to each other... it'll founder.
The Catholic Church got super liberal. And then all of a sudden, everywhere you look, people you know are converting to Catholicism with a pretty kind of traditionally Christian orientation.
This is how I would characterize ecclesial liberalism, a tendency to reduce the supernatural to the natural. That was going on for a long time. Yes. In very recent years, there's been a keener interest in the supernatural dimension of the faith.
I don't think I've ever received more texts about any guest than I did about you. From Catholics I know, from non-Catholics I know, but the Catholics all wanted to hear details on, you know, factions within the church, and I'm not going to ask you any questions about that because I don't understand any of it.
Good.
I want to start as broad as I possibly can, which is, it seems like a lot of people in the West are unhappy, and it's measurable, suicide rates are. Yep. at record highs and birth rates are at record lows. And those are not signs of confidence in the future. Those are signs of despair.
Why are people unhappy? Well, they've lost a sense of God. I mean, God is the supreme good. And when you lose that sense of God and you collapse back in on yourself, that St. Augustine defined sin as curvatus in se, I'm caved in around myself. When you do that, you are by definition unhappy.
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