Tom Sandoval and Tom Schwartz's namesake bar Schwartz & Sandy's closing after just 2 years (Page Six) (20:08), Kristen Doute Is Pregnant! (PEOPLE) (23:58)'Holding Space' for 'Defying Gravity': Viral 'Wicked' Journalist on Getting Recognized in Public, Selling Merch and What on Earth She Meant (Variety) (27:28)Hugh Grant doesn't remember making out with Luann de Lesseps in the Hamptons (Page Six) (34:16)Kylie Kelce is launching her own 'brutally honest' podcast (NY Post) (39:03)Glen Powell Says Lookalike Contest Winner Gets 'Their Parents or Any Family Member of Their Choice' a Cameo in His Next Film (Variety) (48:41)Dear Toasters Advice Segment (54:00)The Toast with Jackie (@JackieOshry) and Claudia Oshry (@girlwithnojob) Lean InThe Camper and The Counselor by Jackie OshryMerchThe Toast PatreonGirl With No Job by Claudia OshrySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Chapter 1: What is the celebration for this episode?
Welcome back to The Toast, and happy Tuesday that feels like a Friday, because we're fucking celebrating. Bitch, that's right. It's the last toast of the week, and while you might be crying, I am singing, because my work week is over. Yours probably isn't, and I'm really sorry, but mine is. Even though I have so much work to do tomorrow, I actually, like, I'm working a full day tomorrow. Right.
Really sorry that we had the foresight, couple of geniuses here. We had the foresight to take off the Wednesday before Thanksgiving. And I just want to say thank you to Jackson Claude of yore who made that decision. But the good news is I know you're probably like, what the fuck? Like I wasn't ready. The good news is there's so much good news.
First of all, Claudia and I recorded a Patreon episode yesterday. That's going up tomorrow morning. So if you need your daily dose of toast. Head to patreon.com slash the toast. It's a really fun episode because unlike other toasts, it's the fast five stories that you need for the Thanksgiving dinner table.
A couple of, you know, ice breakers, non-divisive things to talk about with your family and friends.
It's an annual episode. Jack and I record every year, just try to leave you guys for the holiday season with like good non-hot topics to talk about, like literally moronic things going on in the country that you can bring up with like family you hate, family you disagree with, family you feel awkward around. The episode was so funny.
And then we also go into, of course, like what are we thankful for this season? It was a very beautiful way to tie up So if you're looking for an episode tomorrow, you still have to work. It'll be released at 9 a.m. It's already been recorded. And then Thursday is Thanksgiving. I know some people do have to go back to work on Friday. So we also have an episode coming out Friday.
Me and Ben Soffer Celebrity, we are podcasting together. We haven't heard from him since the big news. And I know we haven't heard from the two of you together.
I'm sure he talks about it on Good Guys. I heard he said like some nice stuff.
Yeah, he did.
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Chapter 2: What news do we have about Schwartz & Sandy's closing?
But that's what they... That's what they deserve after being on 12 seasons of reality TV. And so they're paying like millions in cast salaries. And it's just, that's not. That's a good theory. A good financial decision. So even though everybody wants to do it and everybody is doing this next season, she said everybody is doing this next season. So that like includes Ariana.
And Tom, it's just too expensive of a show. And when you think like how these reality shows start out, it's people making $20,000 a season. Not even like production, like the budgets for the show are low. The overhead is low. They take road trips.
It gets just too big. And that's what we're seeing. That's a very good theory. And I could see that. Even if it was like a successful show at Bravo, I think it gets really hard with reality shows just in general being less popular, like cable network reality shows. So you really can't, like a new show, that's why like Roni, I think that probably had a lot to do with why Roni Legacy.
They were all OGs. They were all getting paid at least a million dollars a season. And now you're paying Rebecca Minkoff $10,000. Like you start fresh.
No, when you start over, you get to start fresh. It actually makes a lot of sense as to why shows would start over even before,
they need to. Yeah. And even a successful franchise, successful is different than what it used to mean. And I don't think even a successful franchise can make money or be successful when you have that much in cast salaries. That's a very good point.
Yeah, so even though some of them might now go over to the Valley, like, they might have to take a pay cut. But I actually think, now in thinking about it this way, it's worth... Yep. Say you don't make a lot of money from your season of the show. The opportunities that it brings you, like, and the potential for earning, I think is worth doing the show.
A thousand percent. Other reality shows, Instagram, followers, appearances, one thousand percent.
I think things got, like, a little out of control, and... People are making like them. But that's also what happens when you bring on like the Denise Richards is and they're making $2 million just to come on the show. And then the people who built the show are like, well, we want more than.
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Chapter 3: Who is Kristen Doute and what is her pregnancy news?
oh i feel like she is like that five seconds that we got of her like now we're getting an extrapolated version and like it's the same but the good news is it's like she has a sense of humor about it like she thinks it's awesome she also they were asking what's next you're gonna sell merch like you know they're comparing it to like the eri demir very mindful yes that there hasn't been a viral moment like that since then so she's uh said that um she's a little slower than the internet friends of hers were telling her to get a merch store up and running she said she's already seen t-shirts and ball caps
She said she has not considered the full breadth of what this might be. I had a podcast with The Advocate several years ago. So who knows? Maybe a little podcast.
Stop.
I love her.
Jackie, like I feel for anyone who works in media, like to get this kind of recognition, like you can't even dream of attention like this. Yeah. But also she's really become like a gay icon, which I feel like for a gay woman is probably like the best thing that could happen to you. Like everybody's wearing t-shirts with her face on it. Like everybody's quoting her.
Like I'm actually like so happy for this lady. And the more I hear from her in this interview, she sounds like... To me, I'm getting, like, the person who I saw in that interview, I was like, she kind of seems insufferable. But now hearing from her, it seems like it was like this total accident. She wasn't actually asking that as a question.
I was like, oh, she's more normal than I thought she was going to be. And I'm so happy for somebody I've never met. And speaking of Jameer, do you know that... Merriam-Webster word of the year. Yes, that was a story that got booted. Well, you know what? I'm glad we can talk about it now because I think it's A, a good word. Like it was an underrated word in the language. Agreed.
And having it be brought back to the forefront, I appreciate. And I feel like sometimes they make word of the year like riz. Like that's not a word, okay? No, but you know what is a word?
The rizzler. I have like fallen down a rizzler rabbit hole.
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Chapter 4: What insights does the viral journalist share about holding space?
Yeah. Turk.com. Yeah.
Turd and branch. Yeah, probably. Oh, so many words. So many years. Are you ready for our next story? Hugh Grant is responding.
I hate him.
To Lewontin Duel of the Seps. I have to just like share his half of the story.
His truth.
Just, like, for, like, journalistic integrity. But it kills me to, like... I wish the fantasy ended yesterday. It kills me to cast any doubt on what Luann said.
And I just want to say, Hugh Grant is 1,000% telling the truth. Like, 1,000%. And he delivered it in the nicest possible way that he could have. But I wish he just shut his mouth, you know? Yeah.
Yeah. I wish he didn't. I wish like he listened to the toast and like knew how well this reflected on him. And like, even if none of it was true, like to let us say less. Yeah. So he screenshotted the people magazine story about Luann recalling heavily making out with him. And he. Posted on X. Steady on. I do remember meeting a charming Roni. No. Rennie. Rennie. A charming Rennie in a restaurant.
But I'd like to stress it was about 15 years ago. I don't recall shots or kissing, but her memory might be better than mine.
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