The Ryan Hanley Show
Peptides Unleashed: The Ultimate Health Hack with Jay Campbell
Mon, 14 Apr 2025
Want to become a FEARLESS entrepreneur and leader? Go here: https://books.ryanhanley.com/ Hormones influence everything—energy, focus, performance. Optimizing testosterone can be the shift from surviving to truly thriving. Jay Campbell is a 5x international best-selling author, men's physique champion, and the Owner and Co-Founder of BioLongevity Labs. Widely recognized as a leading expert on hormonal optimization, therapeutic peptides, and biohacking for health and performance, Jay is on a mission to help individuals break free from the failing "sick care" system and take control of their health. Ryan relates his personal experience of hormonal deficiency and the profound impact of optimizing testosterone levels on his energy, mental clarity, and overall performance. Jay Campbell emphasizes the importance of taking ownership of one's health, given that many traditional doctors may lack the necessary understanding of therapeutic hormones and the endocrine system. This episode explores modern health challenges and solutions, including misinformation, sedentary lifestyles, and GLP-1 agonists. It emphasizes the dangers of quick fixes and the importance of spiritual and mental clarity. 🎯 Takeaways: Understand hormonal deficiency Approaching health optimizations with caution Healthy habits improve overall health 💬 Sound Bites: "Most people's default state in America today because of this poisoned environment that we live in is suffering." "So you gotta eat everything, carbs, protein, and fat, you know, regularly over your course of your life, or you retard different biological systems when you don't do that." "If you have high levels of triglyceride, that's bad, and you're at a seriously high risk level, but guess what, bro? That's completely changeable. 🔗 Connect and Discover: Website: https://biolongevitylabs.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jaycampbell333/ 📖 Chapters: 00:00 Unlocking Peak Performance with Jay Campbell 07:47 Hormonal Treatment Over Pharma Drugs 14:21 Choose Health Optimization Over Sick Care 19:58 Biomarkers, Metabolism, and Balanced Health 23:44 Low Testosterone: Symptoms and Misconceptions 29:59 Lifestyle Changes Lower Heart Risks 35:14 Wegovy's Transformative Effects Explored 37:50 High Cost of Diabetes Medication 45:39 Exploring Performance: Substance Use Impact 47:45 Caution Against Daily Substance Use 54:34 Ayahuasca Traditions and Nicotine Myths 58:40 Danger of Overusing Cognitive Enhancers 01:03:33 "Check Out JayCampbell.com" 📌 𝗙𝗢𝗟𝗟𝗢𝗪 𝗠𝗘 𝗢𝗡: Website: https://go.ryanhanley.com/ Course Page: https://masteroftheclose.com/ Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ryan-hanley-show/id1480262657 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5AZFuTiQsgS9hMQDDdtlOr?si=98432b7806534486 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ryan_hanley
Chapter 1: What are the benefits of hormonal optimization?
Hello, everyone, and welcome back to the show. We have a tremendous conversation for you today with Jay Campbell, five-time international bestselling author, men's physique champion, and co-founder of BioLongevity Labs. He is widely held as a foremost expert in hormonal optimization, therapeutic peptides, and overall healing. human performance.
If you believe as I do that your physical fitness is a competitive advantage, not just in the activities we do, but in business and in life, lock in.
This is a no-holds-barred, in-your-face episode that is going to give you some tactical guidance, particularly for men who are aging, who are looking to maintain their performance, their strength, their mental clarity into the second half of their life. Lock in on this episode because you are going to get everything you need to dial in your physical performance.
With that, I'm incredibly excited to share with you Jay Campbell.
In a crude laboratory in the basement of his home...
Jay, as someone who's been saying on this podcast for five years now that health is a competitive advantage in every aspect of our life, including business, I can't be more excited to have the conversation we're about to have today.
Thank you, my brother. It's an honor and privilege to be here, and I can't wait to go deep down the rabbit hole with you.
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Chapter 2: How can testosterone levels impact health?
Yeah, so I want to start on a very personal note. Some of the listeners of the show may have heard me talk about this in the past, but for those who haven't, I'll just hit it real quick.
Last January, so I live in the north, live in Albany, New York, and used to the winters, used to the normal kind of decline that you feel when you haven't seen the sun for, you know, 100 days and all that kind of stuff. you know, and have developed ways of getting through that. But last January, it was like, I ran into a brick wall. It was like, I'm 43 years old at the time.
And it's like, it was as if there was nothing there. There was nothing to pull from. You know what I mean? It's like, normally, you know, you have a good day, you have a bad day, whatever. But like, there was just, there was, I had zero and I couldn't figure out what it was. And I heard, I think, Atiyah or Huberman on one of the podcasts talking about testosterone and different markers.
So I got tested, and my testosterone was 70, which put me in the seventh percentile, according to that company or whatever, of all men. And I got on an oral kind of... I have the name. I took a picture of it so I could share it with you here. The name of it is enclomiphene. Enclomiphene. Enclomiphene. Yep. So just under the under the tongue oral non, you know, I wasn't taking shots or whatever.
And that helped a lot. And then my doctor also put me on some oralin. um, as well. And the combination of those two things brought my numbers way back. I, you know, depending on, you know, I've gotten tested a couple of times.
I'm usually between like seven 50 and 900 in terms of a testosterone now and feel, I mean, just different world in terms of, of how I feel in my energy, but also brain activity and, my ability to focus, like all these things came back in waves. And I have been trying to get as many people as I can, like yourself, who spent, this is what they do.
This is our life's work is helping people optimize their health to talk about these topics. Because as you said, and I would love for you to share this stat again, most people just go through life and feel like this is the way I'm supposed to feel. Like they just don't understand what is possible if they dig a little deeper.
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Chapter 3: What are the dangers of quick fixes in health?
Yeah, I mean, you know, what you experience is actually commonality now in the West. I tell people all the time that 80%, and that's a strong statement, but I mean, I can correlate it and, you know, people can fact check me just by my business model, by what I do, who I interact with in the world. 80% of society that is in the West that is an adult over the age of 35 has a hormonal deficiency.
It's not just men, it's men and women. The biggest problem, Brian, is that we don't have a lot of physicians that understand how to handle the situation. The average doctor, general practitioner, PPO, HMO, insurance doctor, has no understanding of therapeutic hormones or the endocrine system from medical school. And again, this is all purposeful.
We could go down the serious rabbit hole and talk about why they don't understand anything about hormone optimization if we really want to. But to continue on this path is... You know, once somebody gets to 35 or 40 in the West today, they're dealing with a massive onslaught of, you know, phytoestrogens, endocrine disrupting chemicals, plastics, neurotoxins, phthalate, BPA.
atrazine, glyphosate, you name it. I could talk for an hour about all of the things that are attacking us biologically. And so once that happens, regardless of whether you were a former pro athlete or a flaming dumpster fire of obesity and insulin resistance, you have most likely a hormonal deficiency.
And when you go to the doctor, if you go to the doctor, because a lot of people, like you said, just sit and suffer. Most people's default state in America today because of this poisoned environment that we live in is suffering, right? They don't even know how to not suffer.
But if they're lucky enough to go to a doctor or the wife pushes them to go to a doctor or, you know, they're like you, they figure something's going on. And they go to a doctor. It's unlikely the doctor can even diagnose the problem because they don't understand anything about hormones.
In fact, what doctors normally do is they write you a script for an SSRI, which is obviously an antidepressant because your mood is altered. You're depressed. You have low energy. And then they also will address the erectile issue because usually you have sexual dysfunction, right? So you can't get a good erection. So they'll give you a blue or pink pill, Viagra, Levitra, Cialis, whatever.
There's other ones now. And so you're never addressing the fundamental root cause, which is a hormonal deficiency. And what ends up happening is when you're taking an SSRI, and also what are called PP5 inhibitors, which are Levitra, Cialis, and Viagra, over time,
your hormonal deficiency becomes worse because SSRIs change brain programming and actually lower your hormones even worse and make it worse. And then the sexual dysfunction even gets worse because if you're taking a higher dosage of all those inhibitor drugs, you eventually develop like a desensitization. So you don't get the erection quality or strength.
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Chapter 4: What are the common symptoms of low testosterone?
They actually kind of stop working as you titrate the dosage up higher. So we are just like in this morass, you know, in this like dysfunctional society where people are not being treated in the right way. And, you know, I could go down the path. Obviously, I've written many books on it. But like if you treat someone's hormones initially versus giving them those other big pharma drugs.
and again, you do it right, which is also a big question, you will actually eliminate most of the issues that are being faced in society today from a disease state. And I mean, type two diabetes, heart disease, type three diabetes, which is really neurodegenerative disease like Alzheimer's, dementia, autoimmune disease, all of these things stem from a hormonal dysregulation.
The hormonal dysregulation causes inflammation and insulin resistance, and then obviously obesity and metabolic disease and disorder. And so you have this, again, society of people who are sick, fat and depressed. and they're not getting the hormonal treatment necessary to make them feel better, which you did. And again, you're lucky.
You're one of the lucky few because most guys don't, you know, most guys, if they're lucky enough to have a wife to say, you're not right, you know, what's going on. Um, you know, they push them down, like to go to the GNC and they buy like the over the counter bullshit testosterone boosters that don't do anything.
So thankfully you did see a doctor and they did give you in clomiphene, which is a, you know, FSH follicle stimulating hormone, a luteinizing hormone. Um, analog, which will help, you know, increase certain things to increase your endogenous, which is your natural testosterone production. You also took a growth hormone agonist peptide like sermorelin, which helped.
But again, most people, Ryan, don't get this kind of help and it just becomes worse and worse and worse. And again, walk around in America today, go to an airport, go to a stadium, go to an event with a lot of people, and all you see is default suffering, fat, inflamed, sick, and depressed. That is the average default person in America today.
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Chapter 5: How can lifestyle changes reduce heart risks?
Jay, here's the scary part. Everything I take today, I have no, like I've had to piece together. Your comments on my general practitioner. So my general practitioner is a perfectly fine human being. But... For lack of a better term. But essentially, like... I don't even know why I go to her. You know what I mean?
And I mean that with all due respect to her, but like, you know, if I go, I get my own blood work. So I pay for these. So I've essentially had to, and again, this is the scary part, is like I have had to piece these things together by listening to people like yourself, reading tons of articles, researching companies online, talk, you know what I mean? Like this is only because I am this person
psychotic neurodivergent. Once I have a bone, I can't let it go type of human. That's the only reason I've gone down this path. Like the amount of work and I, and I don't know shit. And I'm fully aware of that with the amount of work I've done to still feel like, I don't know. That's the scary part. And it's why to your point.
And, and, you know, I talk about this with some of my friends, like, you know, so my kids play baseball. And I coach and I love it and whatever. It's all good. I look around and my kids and I are very into being fit, you know, whatever. And freaking everybody's got a dad bod. Everybody. My son said to me the other day, and he wasn't being a jerk, right? I mean, he's just aware and noticing.
And he said, he goes, dad, You're the only one here without a dad bod.
I know.
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Chapter 6: What are the implications of using GLP-1 agonists?
Out of all the parents, all the fans, all the coaches, all the parents, the entire place, I was the only one that didn't have a gut sticking out of the front of my shirt. And I don't mean that to be so negative for those of you who are listening who may have that going on, but my point in having individuals like yourself in these conversations is that shouldn't be acceptable.
Like, not just because of the look. I don't mean it that way. It's not a judgmental on the look. It's... The reason you wake up feeling hung over, even though you didn't have a drink the night before, is because of what you're seeing in your midsection.
Chapter 7: What is the cost of diabetes medication?
Dude, 100%. I mean, look, like I told you, I'm in Mexico right now. I just did a big retreat in Tulum with a bunch of other influencer, biohacker influencers. And, you know, the people that we attracted were not that type of person. But, like, I just go down to the pool in my hotel here in Playa del Carmen. And, like, when I take my shirt off...
and you know, I'm super fit dude, obviously, but like people look at me like I'm an alien, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, as you know, cause you're just 10 years younger than me, I'm 54. It used to be the other way around, right? Like people would look at people like us and be like, damn man, impressive. Great job. How do you do, you know, what do you do? Do you train?
Do you, you know, how do you eat? Blah, blah, blah. They would ask you questions, general questions about like, wow, you know, and now it's the opposite. Because now fit people are completely the neurodivergent mutants. And so it's truly bizarre. We've really changed the world again. And again, the reason this is, it's no confusion. We live in a toxic society. The food is toxic.
The water is toxic. The air that we breathe is toxic. All the chemicals in our modern society are toxic. You get in your car, whether it's a Tesla or a BMW M5, whatever it is, and the petroleum distillate in your car has fumes that come out when the sun hits it through the windshield, that's sickening you, right? The blue light from your nav screen or your flat screen or the Tesla is...
irradiating your optic nerve. It's generating all sorts of bad stuff for your biological system. So the modernization of today cannot be avoided. You know, we can't go into the forest and live like a monk a thousand years ago. Those days are over. I mean, you can, right? You want to move to the Aboriginal outback of Australia, which I was just in Australia like three weeks ago.
And, you know, I saw some crazy stuff, but I mean, it's not relative to most people in modern day society. So the only thing you can do, Ryan, is do what you do. And truthfully, I'll give you credit because you're actually not dumb. I mean, you actually know more than 90% of doctors already. And look, we're not going to disparage doctors. Doctors go to medical school. They get brainwashed.
They have to regurgitate all this nonsense. I mean, dude, I mean, I don't want to go rabbit hole, but like think about with AI and how AI is infecting the world now. I mean, imagine where education is going because bro, people don't even think we can talk about that in a second. But people under the age of 30 now, Ryan, literally don't even think. They use AI to respond.
You probably get emails right now back from people who are responding with AI. It's all so insane. But back to the doctor conversation. Your doctor... You shouldn't go to, I say this all the time, unless you're bleeding out, gut shot, you've been in a serious accident. You have shrapnel that is stuck out of your body.
Doctors in the allopathic quote unquote, sick care, you know, illness medicine world should not be gone to because if you went to your doctor right now and say, Hey doc, I want to live to 150. Tell me what to do. They would literally look at you dumbfounded. They'd be like, what are you talking about? are you sick? You know, open up your tongue and stay off. You know what I'm saying?
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Chapter 8: How do cognitive enhancers affect health?
Yeah, it's a good question. And let's even go back and go deeper meta. So There's a bunch of companies online right now, private MD labs, discounted labs, direct labs. There's other ones I'm not talking about that any man or woman can go directly to and with no knowledge whatsoever, but a checking card or a credit card or a wire transfer or a cash app.
can order a comprehensive lab for their age and their sex, right? And those comprehensive panels are going to measure everything, inflammatory markers, endocrine function, which is your testosterone, your estrogen, your progesterone, which estrogen and progesterone are really important in women, a little bit, almost equal to testosterone.
And then estrogen and testosterone in men are a little bit more important than progesterone is in women. But thyroid markers, obviously your metabolics, your CBC, like your liver panel, your kidney panel, all these things are so simple that you can measure, right? So at that point, then whatever one you pick, there's also coupons. I mean, I have a deal with Private MD Labs, you can get 15% off.
And I even also set it up so that if you're broke as fuck, you know, you can do a basic evaluation. If you have money, you can get an intermediate.
And if you're like super down the rabbit hole and you're like, I want to know everything about myself and I want to know my DNA and I want to know like, you know, food and sensitivities, you can spend 1500 bucks and you can understand 90 different biomarkers, right? So it's up to you where you want to go and how deep you want to go.
But bro, you just said it and I'll get the free testosterone and total testosterone. But once you understand how to read these biomarkers, Now, there's a big component of, okay, understanding is great. Are you also taking care of yourself, which we can get to, which is, are you exercising daily?
Are you doing a combination of obviously resistance training, which is weightlifting or some sort of bone-bearing training versus cardiovascular training? And then are you what I call living insulin controlled, which is essentially regulating your carbohydrate consumption around your activity level.
There's too many people out there that are afraid of carbohydrates and they go down the whole carnivore, keto, if it's your macros, Atkins, zone. What really it's all about metabolic flexibility. So you got to eat everything, carbs, protein and fat, you know, regularly over your course of your life or you retard different biological systems when you don't do that.
So all these people that focus on carnivore and keto are really that we're going down rabbit holes. They don't want to do because when you don't eat carbs for a long time, your insulin metabolism becomes retarded. Literally, I mean, it stops working functionally and you end up having all these problems. But without rabbit holing, insulin controlled, lifting weights, doing cardiovascular,
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