The Boys are back and they’re diving into ‘The Last of Us’ Season 2 Episode 3. They discuss Ellie’s and Dina’s travels to Seattle and how the show is starting a new plot line almost midway through the season. (0:00) Intro (7:50) Spoilers ahead (9:41) Initial reactions (22:33) Tangent 1 (29:03) Character relationships and lore (45:03) Tangent 2 (49:48) Seattle (52:23) Last thoughts Hosts: Van Lathan, Charles Holmes, Jomi Adeniran, and Steve Ahlman Producers: Aleya Zenieris, Jonathan Kermah, and Steve Ahlman Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: Who are the hosts and what is 'The Midnight Boys' podcast?
welcome into the ringerverse this is of course the ringer's next podcast feed for all things fandom we are steve the architect almond the builder and tinkerer of things we are tell me explain it dinner on you've got questions he's got answers old man van he of the resurgent hairline coke baby chuck 24 karat closer together we are known as about midnight boys also socials insta twitter facebook and tiktok joey yo
It's popping off over here. Last of Us and or Thunderbolts. Don't get left behind.
What do you mean? Don't sneak Thunderbolts.
It's coming right up. We're going to talk about it. If you don't want to miss it, lock in. Come on, Chuck. Come on, Chuck. Come on, jump. See, there's a... Come on, jump. Come on, jump. Chuck saw all the good news and he was like, nah, nah.
No, you tried to sneak in. We have two good shows. Thunderbolt still has to show and prove. But at this point, I done seen 45 minutes of the movie already from the fucking trailers.
Yeah, you got to keep your eyes closed. You can't. We're on YouTube. Like, comment, subscribe, share. You can watch every Midnight Boys and House of Art episode on youtube.com backslash at ringerverse. Also on Spotify, programming. Oh, programming reminders. I watched the movie before we get into it. A quick tangent, an early tangent. I watched the movie. I saw the TV glow. Oh, yeah. Great movie.
What'd you think? How fucking disturbing is a movie supposed to be? I submit that that movie, did you see it? God, no. Oh, it's good. It's really good. I submit that that movie is the only movie that has disturbed me to that degree since Donnie Darko came out. Really? It is Donnie Darko level. Is that your pitch? The vibes are there. I'm not saying the movie's not good.
The movie, Justin Smith, Jesus Christ, bro. He's going for it. Good, man. Like, the movie is good. Like, it's good, and it's a descent. But I haven't been that, like, Jesus Christ, creepy crawly. What the fuck is going on since Donnie Darko?
How do you get to that? Like, who recommended you, like, you need to see us on the TV show?
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Chapter 2: What are the initial reactions to The Last of Us Season 2 Episode 3?
It came from a Wikipedia dive that I did. Oh. Wait, where'd you start on the Wikipedia dive? I cannot remember. So I can't remember where I started on the Wikipedia dive. Uh-huh. Right? And I ended up on the page of I Saw the TV Globe. And something that happens to me sometimes when I'm reading the plot of a movie, I'll read the first couple of lines and then I'll stop.
Because I'll be like, I gotta see it.
Gotta lock in. If the first couple of lines, people should pay attention to this as you're writing these Wikipedia pages and stuff and these synopsis. If the first couple of lines are like,
intriguing enough I'll stop and go like I gotta watch it so maybe like the first half paragraph four or five lines I'm like oh let's put this on so I put it on and it was fucked up it was a fucked up movie is it really good wait I will say there is a scene towards the end where like is this
It's that one, and then when he's in the bathroom, and it's like... Fucking spoiled it. You don't know what I... Son of a bitch. This has been out for a year. Let's not spoil it. But I will say, now that you're talking about Wikipedia, back when I couldn't, like, we didn't have that much money. I remember for fun, sometimes I'd just, like, click on a movie and just imagine it in my mind.
I'm not even going to try to attempt to see this, so let's just read the Wikipedia.
Yeah, I'm just going to read a Wikipedia about a random movie. What a freaked out fucking movie, though.
I'm glad you guys had that experience.
You didn't see it?
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Chapter 3: How does the episode handle Joel’s death and its impact on characters?
I will say, I think J.B. Smoove is the funniest sitcom character ever. Act like we've ever had. Like, I'm just like, when he shows up on the show, I'm just like, oh, shit.
Like... I'm willing to do this. Everybody pick a show. We'll have a battle of Midnight Boys. Whoa. Like, rumble.
Should we have either a... I feel like we should do a draft of the funniest TV shows.
Oh, we should. That's a good one. You know? That's a good one. Martin's in there.
Martin's in... Wait, no, wait. All right, wait. Curb is funnier than Martin. Damn. There's not a lot of shows funnier than Curb. Like, I don't... It's hard. It's very hard. Oh, no. No. I think early office is like. I just. I think early office. It's up there.
The office is funny, but it's levels to this.
Oh, I think New Girl is funnier than.
Okay, no. Never seen an episode. New Girl is great, but it's just a warm blanket. Shout out to Lamar.
I'm about to say, that's your best.
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Chapter 4: What new plot lines and character developments are introduced in Episode 3?
We are only spoiling the game up to the show, so you don't have to worry about any of our gamers here on the Midnight Boys spoiling something that would happen in the future. But we are going to be spoiling stuff that has happened on the show. Steve, run the spoiler warning.
We're getting ready to talk about The Last of Us. You're listening to a reaction podcast.
The spoilers are coming. Begin our reactions. Got to put you in the know. Only way to do that is the Midnight Manifest. Only person who can do that is Chuck White.
Chapter 5: How do Ellie and Dina’s journey to Seattle begin and what challenges do they face?
Chapter 6: What are the key character relationships and lore insights discussed?
Oh, yeah.
Andor and his adventures are back. I want to say something. I want to start doing, before we move on. This is tangent number two, by the way. This is tangent number two. I want to start doing just Midnight Defense episodes. So I want to come on here, and I want to make a statement. I just want to spend the whole hour. It's not a midnight court, just talking about the statement.
So what I want to do, I submit to you right now that Curb Your Enthusiasm is the funniest show that has ever existed on television. All right, not true, but I want to hear you defend this, because I love that show. Okay, so we can't do it now. Right. Well, this can't be post-credits. Can't do it now, because I need more time. I submit to you. You got to gather the defense.
There are a couple of shows that are in the zeitgeist that are legit. I'm not talking about, hey, I'm talking about legitimately hysterical. So you're saying Curb is better than Seinfeld? Yes. I'd agree with that. By a significant degree. By a significant margin. I would think that. Really? Seinfeld is funny.
No, Seinfeld is funny, but I feel like it's more contained where it's like Curb. Curb is long in the tooth. There's a lot of seasons where I'm like, eh.
That's true. Also, I'm talking about all shows now, right? Okay. So, Early Chappelle Show is in this conversation, right? Early Chappelle Show is in this conversation. Curb is in this conversation. I, anyone... Give me something that's funnier than Curb and the ridiculous ways that that show is fun.
The first three seasons of Arrested Development. All right, Steve. You've ruined it.
I will say, I think J.B. Smoove is the funniest sitcom character ever. Act like we've ever had. Like, I'm just like, when he shows up on the show, I'm just like, oh, shit.
Like... I'm willing to do this. Everybody pick a show. We'll have a battle of Midnight Boys. Whoa. Like, rumble.
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Chapter 7: How do the hosts compare The Last of Us narrative to other TV shows and movies?
There's police. He becomes a cop.
He falls in love with a white girl. No, she's not white. Wait. No, no. He falls in love with a professor. That's enough.
Oh, yeah.
This is post-credits now. Sorry. But on today's show, we give you our instant reactions to the latest episode of Last of Us. Guys, we're about to talk about Last of Us, and we're going to spoil stuff, but we promise. We make a promise. So you put this in the document. I think it's very apt.
We are only spoiling the game up to the show, so you don't have to worry about any of our gamers here on the Midnight Boys spoiling something that would happen in the future. But we are going to be spoiling stuff that has happened on the show. Steve, run the spoiler warning.
We're getting ready to talk about The Last of Us. You're listening to a reaction podcast.
The spoilers are coming. Begin our reactions. Got to put you in the know. Only way to do that is the Midnight Manifest. Only person who can do that is Chuck White.
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Chapter 8: What are the hosts’ final thoughts and predictions for the rest of the season?
All right, here's your Midnight Manifest for The Last of Us episode three of the second season, directed by Peter Hoare, written by Craig Mazin. Ellie wakes up from the death of Joel screaming, and then we flash three months later. The town is still struggling after the Hoare attack from the previous episode. Ellie is given a clean bill of health and returns to Joel's house unharmed.
grief-stricken and alone. Dina arrives to reveal she lied to Ellie and does know more about Abby and her group. Then she led on at the hospital. Abby is part of the Washington Liberation Front, a small regional army based in Seattle. Tommy says Ellie has to ask the council about her Seattle revenge mission.
Unfortunately, the council decides that the town doesn't have the resources to allow her to take a 16-man unit to Seattle in order to execute the Abby and the WLF members that murdered Joel. Ellie decides to take matters into her own hands with Dina and and homophobic Seth and take on the mission herself. Ellie visits Joel's grave for the first time and then sets out with Dina on the road.
But before they get far, they run into a group of murdered cult members in the forest. That's been your Midnight Manifest. My first question for you, Van. Obviously, second episode of this season was kind of everything that we've been waiting for. Super explosive. How do you feel like the creators...
Did they land the plane on the third episode in terms of just like getting us where we need to go for, honestly, the second version of this show, a new version of the show?
They did something that was very important to do. They got us right back into story, which you would think would be difficult after losing such a major character. But you have to get right back into story. You have to say that this is a story that's worth telling without Joel.
okay um which a lot of times with your main characters it's hard to do yep it's hard to imagine the Sopranos without Tony Soprano it's hard to imagine uh Breaking Bad without Walter White Succession without Logan Succession without Logan we've talked about this it's hard to imagine however this show is not about Joel it's about he was the anchor of the show it's really about the world and the choices that the characters have to make so they have to
reorient us to get back into the show uh without him and they do a good job two things that they do that to me are very effective and i'm wondering what you guys think number one starting us with just a hint of the trauma from joel's death tommy looking at his body watch things of that nature
Then a little time jump to where you assume that people have processed things a little bit more and you see that literally Jackson is blooming again. The season has changed. But you still have people that are still negotiating the scars of not only what happened to Joel, but the attack, and they don't know how to move forward. So I thought that the episode had to do that, and it did do that.
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