The Rest Is Classified
46. The Leak That Changed The World: Snowden On The Run (Ep 4)
Tue, 13 May 2025
The world has met Edward Snowden and now he fears repercussions. How will he escape Hong Kong? Where will he go? And will any nation be willing to risk the fury of the USA and help him? Listen as David and Gordon continue the story of Edward Snowden and the leaks that changed the world. Exclusive INCOGNI Deal: To get an exclusive 60% off an annual Incogni plan, go to https://incogni.com/restisclassified Get our exclusive NordVPN deal here ➼ nordvpn.com/restisclassified It's risk-free with Nord's 30 day money back guarantee ✅ ------------------- To sign up to The Declassified Club, go to www.therestisclassified.com or click this link. To sign up to the free newsletter, go to: https://mailchi.mp/goalhanger.com/tric-free-newsletter-sign-up ------------------- Order a signed edition of David's latest book, The Seventh Floor, via this link. Pre-order a signed edition of Gordon's latest book, The Spy in the Archive, via this link. ------------------- Email: [email protected] Twitter: @triclassified Assistant Producer: Becki Hills Producer: Callum Hill Senior Producer: Dom Johnson Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
What was the NSA's Verizon phone records collection program revealed by Snowden?
The National Security Agency is currently collecting the telephone records of millions of U.S. customers of Verizon, one of America's largest telecoms providers, under a top secret court order issued in April.
The order, a copy of which has been obtained by The Guardian, requires Verizon on a quote, ongoing daily basis to give the NSA information on all telephone calls in its systems, both within the U.S. and between the U.S. and other countries. The document shows for the first time that under the Obama administration, the communications records of millions of U.S.
citizens are being collected indiscriminately and in bulk, regardless of whether they are suspected of any wrongdoing. The disclosure is likely to reignite longstanding debates in the U.S. over the proper extent of the government's domestic spying powers. Well, welcome to The Rest Is Classified. I'm David McCloskey. And I'm Gordon Carrera.
And that, for those who have been listening to our series on Edward Snowden, is the first time, thank you, Gordon, that I have not been forced to read an opening quote from Edward Snowden's memoir, Permanent Record. That is instead... a quote from an absolute bombshell of a new story dropped by The Guardian on June 5th, 2013.
And I will note, though, Gordon, in my effort to take extreme offense at all opening quotes, that this story was broken by a British newspaper, which is also offensive to me. But also an American journalist.
Buy an American journalist for a British newspaper.
That's right. That's right. Well, and for those tuning in here, we are on our fourth episode of our journey into the darkness of Edward Snowden's leaks.
He's bringing stuff to light, David, rather than darkness.
And we are now finally at a point in the story where after Edward Snowden has taken this information, He has got about one and a half million documents on various sort of SD cards and hard drives. He is in Hong Kong now, sort of ensconced in a disgusting hotel room filled with cartons of takeaway food.
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