The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
Raging Moderates: SCOTUS Blocks Trump’s Deportation Efforts
Tue, 22 Apr 2025
Scott and Jessica unpack the Supreme Court’s decision to block Trump’s use of a centuries-old immigration law, the unraveling of Ukraine peace talks, and Pete Hegseth’s involvement in a second Signal chat sharing classified military plans. Plus, David Hogg sparks generational drama in the Democratic Party—does challenging seniority politics help or hurt the left? Follow Jessica Tarlov, @JessicaTarlov. Follow Prof G, @profgalloway. Follow Raging Moderates, @RagingModeratesPod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: What was the Supreme Court's decision on Trump's immigration policy?
But if you can't tell the difference between being sent to your home country and being sent to a life sentence in a foreign gulag, then I think that it's beyond repair. And that's what I'm really concerned about. You know, as a Democrat, always up for the self-flagellation, you know, what did I do to make this outcome happen?
And they will say, well, you let millions of people stream across the border. Right. I think as eight point seven million is one of the counts, though I saw there was a CBO estimate that actually reduced the deficit by nine hundred billion by having those people come in here. But that's neither here nor there. So Biden lets in all of these people and they now think.
that they have license to do whatever they want because two wrongs make a right, I guess. I thought it was, you know, an eye for an eye, it makes the world go blind, et cetera. And I don't know if that is actually fixable.
And the New York Times did an interview with 13 independent voters who had gone for Donald Trump and, you know, about how they think the administration is doing, talking about tariffs, Elon Musk, immigration, et cetera. All of them used... pretty harsh language for some aspects of how Trump is governing and talking about, you know, being depressed, sad, etc.
Not a single one would change their vote. And this 29-year-old Black construction manager, I thought this was really important or explained a lot of what's going on. He said that the second term is much more about power and loyalty. And then when pushed About how he feels about that, he said, although there are some hard decisions, a couple of friends that have been deported, stuff like that.
So I'm sad at the same time and also not regretting my vote. So these are people who have friends that are being deported and are still saying they don't regret their vote. I think Democrats are doing a little bit of an idiotic dance about all of this. If you're thinking in pure electoral terms and there is a moral argument obviously to be being made about this.
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Chapter 2: What were the reactions to the Supreme Court's ruling?
But I feel like this is going to go on for months and Trump is still going to be leading on immigration by 10 points.
Well, there was a, there was a TikTok that really struck me and at first I didn't get it. And then I thought about it and the guy said, he said, just keep in mind one thing. Auschwitz was in Poland. And me being kind of thick, I didn't put two and two together.
And I thought, wow, you know, suddenly I figured it out that it's easier to escape any sort of moral standards that have been or barriers to maintaining or preventing you or guardrails from excising those moral standards by putting centers of depravity outside of your borders, right? And it takes a different complexion. Rounding people up takes a different complexion.
The targets are obviously different, but this is what we're doing. We are rounding up people and we're sending them to the equivalent of kind of black sites outside of the jurisdiction of the U.S. And this is where I am so disappointed in the Democratic Party.
I believe that Senator Schumer and Leader Jeffries or someone running for president should say the following on their media platform every day. Okay, dear El Salvador, you get a billion dollars in aid from us. You get tremendous help fighting rebels and terrorism. You have tremendous economic aid from us. We are a trading partner.
you continue this shit and you don't acknowledge, you don't acknowledge or at least invite some democratic representatives to express their concern and you don't show any respect or reverence for those opinions, in 21 months, I am gonna so fuck with your nation. You wanna see inflation? You want to see what it's like when I literally turn off.
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Chapter 3: How does Leader Jeffries address immigration issues?
This is, in my opinion, Leader Jeffrey should have the legislation drafted. The El Salvador—call it something flowery and wonderful, like we're helping them.
Like where it rhymes?
Yeah. In 21 months, if we take Congress, which we will, this is the legislation I'm passing— And I'm going to fucking bankrupt your country. And when countries go bankrupt, they come for their dear leader. And that's you, my friend. This is my phone number. Give me a call. But in this nation, we have elections. And if you think what he's doing to you feels good, right?
The reach around he's given you, I'm about to snap it off and eat your fucking testicles in 21 months. Who is saying that on the Democratic side? Instead, we're talking about liberty and constitution and these guys with, you know, these poor men. I get it. It's time to go gangster. This guy's not going to respond to AOC talking about humanity. We are going to incite a revolution against you.
You don't think we can do this? When we're in charge of the CIA, do you know how much really fucking crazy, nasty shit we have imposed and levied on Central American and Latin American leaders? That's going to look like a fucking Easter Day parade compared to what Democrats are going to do to you in 20 months, three weeks, and three days.
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Chapter 4: What is the significance of the recent immigration debates?
Enough already. Let's actually... Let's actually, it's like, okay, do they make that for a man? And when I say a man, I mean, Senator Klobuchar or anyone or AOC is showing more balls than anyone right now. Someone has to stand up and say, all right, all right, El Salvador, this is what we have planned for you. This is what is coming your way.
And we absolutely have, you think this feels good right now? Enjoy it. Anyway, and we don't seem to be capable of doing that. When the Germans rolled into Poland, they met the Polish cavalry. The Polish army decided to fight on horseback. That's us. We're the Democrats fighting on horseback right now. Enough already. Enough already.
Yeah. And that was definitely the vibe that I felt the audience was giving us at the Y, right, where they were saying, I want to get in a tank. I don't want to be on horseback or on a little scooter, that these are, this is war, what's going on. And I was thinking about you mentioning how the first big company, right, that comes out to push back against Trump is going to be a sea change.
And then I said it should be more than just one, right? You're going to have these universities now band together. And I don't know if you saw David Brooks's op-ed. in The Times, but he's called, love him, but also he's calling for a comprehensive national civic uprising.
He says, "'It's time for Americans in universities, law, business, nonprofits, and the scientific community and civil servants and beyond to form one coordinated mass movement. Trump is about power. The only way he's going to be stopped is if he's confronted by some movement that possesses rival power.'" And that's what you're talking about, right?
These representatives that are going, and I should note, another four congresspeople just landed in El Salvador. Max Frost, the youngest guy in the House, is part of that delegation. But I feel like David Brooks is saying something out loud that a lot of us have been discussing around our dinner tables.
This kind of like, what can we do and what would an uprising that is meaningful actually look like? Because we have very little at our disposal. And Leader Jeffrey is, you know, saying, well, to enforce the Supreme Court, you really need the executive branch and we need to look at what would happen to U.S. marshals, etc., like everything. None of that is going to be allowed.
The person in charge of the executive branch is the one causing the five alarm fire. So what options are left for us? And I think taking to the streets is— is a big part of it. And we saw that there was this case up in Sackets Harbor, New York, that I mentioned last week, where the ICE picked up an innocent family and a thousand people came out and marched and that family was returned.
And though we've seen these, they're not uprisings, but these marches, sorry, I'm like losing my English. I'm like so upset about this. I feel like I can't even find my words and I don't even have people screaming at me as I'm talking. But people are taking to the streets. And I think it does make a difference.
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