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PDB Afternoon Bulletin | March 25th, 2025: LEAKED! Trump Officials Text Houthi War Plans To Journalist & Russia, Ukraine Agree To US Brokered Black Sea Ceasefire

Tue, 25 Mar 2025

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In this episode of The PDB Afternoon Bulletin:   First, the Trump administration is in hot water over an explosive report from The Atlantic, which revealed the publication’s editor-in-chief was accidentally added to an encrypted group chat on the private messaging app Signal, where more than a dozen top Trump officials allegedly discussed sensitive military plans. Later in the show, after meetings with officials from the Trump administration in Saudi Arabia, Russia and Ukraine have tentatively agreed to a limited maritime ceasefire to ensure the safety of shipping in the Black Sea. To listen to the show ad-free, become a premium member of The President’s Daily Brief by visiting PDBPremium.com. Please remember to subscribe if you enjoyed this episode of The President's Daily Brief. YouTube: youtube.com/@presidentsdailybrief Birch Gold: Text PDB to 989898 and get your free info kit on gold Stash Financial: Go to https://Get.Stash.com/PDB Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What explosive report is the Trump administration facing?

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It's Tuesday, the 25th of March. Welcome to the PDB Afternoon Bulletin. I'm Mike Baker, your eyes and ears on the world stage. All right, let's get briefed.

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First, the Trump administration is in hot water over an explosive report from the Atlantic, which revealed the publication's editor-in-chief was accidentally added to an encrypted group chat on the private messaging app Signal, where more than a dozen top Trump officials discussed sensitive military plans.

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Later in the show, after meetings with officials from the Trump administration in Saudi Arabia, Russia and Ukraine have tentatively agreed to a limited maritime ceasefire to ensure the safety of shipping in the Black Sea. But first, today's afternoon spotlight.

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President Trump is downplaying the alleged leak of sensitive military plans by senior administration officials on an encrypted group chat that included a journalist. The conversations took place during the run-up to the Pentagon strikes against Yemen's Houthi militants, but Trump said the disclosures are being blown out of proportion and didn't put any military operations at risk.

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Chapter 2: What were the details of the leaked military plans?

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Now, to bring you up to speed, the Trump administration suffered a major embarrassment on Monday when Atlantic editor Jeffrey Goldberg revealed that he was inadvertently added to a group chat on the private messaging app Signal that included more than a dozen top Trump officials. He was allegedly accidentally added by National Security Advisor Mike Waltz.

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Well, that doesn't sound like a National Security Advisor thing to do. Just hours before the administration began their bombing campaign on the 15th of March against the Houthi militants of Yemen. Did you get added? I'm just curious. I mean, I didn't get added to the chat group. And frankly, I'm feeling a little left out here.

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According to the report from Goldberg, the group included Vice President J.D. Vance, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Waltz, and others, including CIA Director John Ratcliffe. In the messages published by The Atlantic, Hegseth, Vice President Vance, and other officials debated their plans to launch airstrikes against the terror group.

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In messages Goldberg withheld from publication, he alleges that Hegseth also disclosed, quote, operational details of forthcoming strikes on Yemen, including information about targets, weapons the U.S. would be deploying, and attack sequencing, end quote.

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Well, as you might imagine, the report sent shockwaves throughout the Capitol, with lawmakers on both sides of the aisle, along with Pentagon officials, expressing concerns about the judgment of those involved. Oh, look, they've come to a bipartisan agreement on something.

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It was not immediately clear if the specifics discussed by Hegseth were officially classified, though experts note that such plans often are and are at least kept secret to protect personnel and operational security, according to a report from the Associated Press.

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Others called it an extraordinary breach of American national security and questioned whether the actions violated the Espionage Act governing the handling of classified information as the conversations took place on a commercial app outside the secure government channels that would traditionally be used for war planning.

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Former national security officials told the New York Times that the use of a commercial app was particularly irresponsible given ongoing Chinese hacking efforts. It's worth noting that government officials often use Signal for organizational discussions, though we should also stress that the app is vulnerable to hacks.

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The White House and National Security Council subsequently confirmed the authenticity of the chat, though disputed the Atlantic's account of what was discussed.

Chapter 3: How did President Trump respond to the leak?

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Trump expressed full confidence in his national security team, saying the incident was, quote, the only glitch in two months and it turned out not to be a serious one, end quote. Well, look at that. Only one glitch in a couple of months.

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White House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt later said that no classified material was sent to the thread, but said the National Security Council is investigating how Goldberg's number ended up in the group chat. Still, congressional Democrats and critics of the Trump administration are acting furious over the ordeal, with many calling for the president to fire Waltz and Hexeth to resign.

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Seriously, you should never let a crisis go to waste. Senate Democrat leader Chuck Schumer, who's frankly never met a camera that he's now willing to leap in front of, called it one of the most stunning breaches of military intelligence he's ever seen.

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Democrat members of the Senate Armed Services Committee said they'd be intensely investigating the matter, not just investigating, but intensely investigating. Look, it's been a while since Democrats have had anything to cheer about, so their glee and their rush to the cameras to announce that the sky has fallen shouldn't be a surprise.

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Chapter 4: What are the implications of using commercial apps for sensitive discussions?

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Republican lawmakers, well, they were more muted in their criticism, but many still expressed concerns and said they'd be looking into the incident on a bipartisan basis. In a statement about the incident, a spokesman for the National Security Council framed the conversations as a, quote, demonstration of the deep and thoughtful policy coordination between senior officials, end quote.

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Well, I wonder if he was referring to the deep and thoughtful criticism of NATO allies being tossed around in the group chat by some of the participants. The spokesman added, quote, The ongoing success of the Houthi operation demonstrates that there were no threats to our service members or our national security, end quote. Hmm.

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OK, look, setting aside the partisan outrage, which is really the fuel that powers Washington, D.C., and the Trump administration's downplaying of the situation, the reality is top U.S. government officials in highly classified positions dealing with highly classified information on a regular basis should be using their NSA-approved and provided comms devices to conduct any remote discussions.

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Signal and similar apps are discrete and more secure than an open line to be sure, but they are vulnerable to hostile actors, and, in today's world, there are a number of hostile actors out there with hostile intent. You want to create a party line to talk about military strikes or to slag off our European allies? Eh, use the Securecoms that are there for just that purpose.

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Coming up next, after meetings with officials from the Trump administration in Saudi Arabia, Russia and Ukraine have agreed to a limited maritime ceasefire proposal that would ensure the safety of shipping in the Black Sea. Well, Russia has sort of agreed. I'll have those details when we come back. Hey, Mike Baker here. Look around the world. What do you see?

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In what may be movement toward a broader ceasefire, the U.S. announced Tuesday it had brokered parallel agreements with Ukraine and Russia aimed at securing safe navigation in the Black Sea and instituting a mutual freeze on strikes against energy infrastructure.

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The Trump administration, eager to demonstrate progress on its campaign pledge to end the war swiftly, adopted a dual-track diplomatic approach, pushing limited highly specific truces as building blocks for a more comprehensive peace deal.

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The maritime and energy ceasefires are, at this stage, the clearest indication that Washington could be inching toward a negotiated off-ramp to the three-year-old conflict. But Moscow is still keeping one hand on the brake.

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Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov made clear that the Kremlin has no intention of locking itself into compliance without further guarantees and, more specifically, significant financial sanctions relief. In addition, in an address on Russian state television, Lavrov said Russia would only consider the maritime deal binding if Washington explicitly orders President Zelensky to uphold it.

Chapter 6: What security measures should officials follow when discussing classified information?

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Lavrov stated, quote, the guarantees can only be the result of an order from Washington to Zelensky and his team to do one thing and not the other, end quote.

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Kyiv, for its part, confirmed that it had signed on to both the maritime and energy infrastructure agreements, but Ukraine's defense ministry warned that it would view any unauthorized Russian naval movements in the Eastern Black Sea as a breach, resulting in grounds for immediate retaliation.

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As part of the arrangement, the US also agreed to facilitate the expansion of Russian grain and fertilizer exports, nodding to a long-running Kremlin grievance that Western sanctions have choked off its agricultural sector.

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The move appears designed to replace the defunct Black Sea Grain Initiative, which had enabled Ukraine to export over 30 million tons of grain before Moscow unilaterally pulled out in 2023. Well, that deal fell apart because Moscow at the time unsuccessfully demanded additional financial sanctions relief.

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As we reported here on the PDB, President Trump last week proposed a 30-day ceasefire in what was an idea welcomed in principle by Kyiv. But Russia quickly responded with a list of demands, including that Ukraine abandon its NATO bid and cede control of four Russian-occupied regions in Ukraine, effectively forcing U.S. diplomats back to the drawing board.

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Since then, the strategy has shifted to more incremental gains. While Trump has struck an optimistic tone about the diplomatic gains, European allies, well, they remain wary. There are growing fears in Brussels that the White House may be moving too quickly, making side deals that could inadvertently compromise NATO's long-term security posture.

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Talk of freezing battlefield lines or cutting side arrangements outside the NATO framework has raised alarms among Kiev's European backers. Zelensky has repeatedly warned that any agreement involving territorial concessions would amount to betrayal and has questioned whether Russian President Putin can be trusted to honor even the most basic terms of any peace deal.

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For now, the Black Sea and energy ceasefires remain tentative but symbolically important. Whether they hold will depend on Washington's ability to walk the tightrope between Ukraine's concerns and Russia's demands. And that, my friends, is the PDB Afternoon Bulletin for Tuesday, the 25th of March. If you have any questions or comments, please reach out to me at PDB at TheFirstTV.com.

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And of course, as the old saying goes, to listen to the show ad-free, well, become a premium member of the President's Daily Brief by simply visiting pdbpremium.com. I'm Mike Baker, and I'll be back tomorrow. Until then, stay informed, stay safe, stay cool.

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