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The New Yorker Radio Hour

From the Archive: Elvis Costello Talks with David Remnick

Wed, 18 Dec 2024

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Elvis Costello’s thirty-first studio album, “Hey Clockface,” will be released this month. Recorded largely before the pandemic, it features an unusual combination of winds, cello, piano, and drums. David Remnick talks with Costello about the influence of his father’s career in jazz and about what it’s like to look back on his own early years.  They also discuss “Fifty Songs for Fifty Days,” a new project leading up to the Presidential election—though Costello disputes that the songs are political. “I don’t have a manifesto and I don’t have a slogan,” he says. “I try to avoid the simplistic slogan nature of songs. I try to look for the angle that somebody else isn’t covering.” But he notes that “the things that we are so rightly enraged about, [that] we see as unjust . . . it’s all happened before. . . . I didn’t think I’d be talking with my thirteen-year-old son about a lynching. Those are the things I was hearing reported on the news at their age.”  Costello spoke from outside his home in Vancouver, B.C., where a foghorn is audible in the background.This segment originally aired on October 16, 2020.

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What is the significance of Elvis Costello's new album 'Hey Clockface'?

823.416 - 833.623 Elvis Costello

Well, we also dug up one of the earliest recordings of you, where you're singing backup vocals for your dad. It's the theme music for a soda company. I think it's called Secret Lemonade Drinker.

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833.663 - 839.347 Elvis Costello

It's wonderful, yeah. We're doing the background voices on it. It was my first paid recording session.

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839.707 - 842.869 Unknown Speaker

I'm a secret lemonade drinker. All right.

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845.934 - 846.995 Unknown Speaker

That's not bad at all.

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862.799 - 881.911 Elvis Costello

Well, here's the weird thing, isn't it, about the Elvis name is my dad is affecting this Elvis inflection. Exactly. He's a very good mimic and he could do comic mimicry like that. And that's why I had such a rich record collection, because every week you would get given a stack of hit parade singles because this dance band just played the hit parade.

882.531 - 907.56 Elvis Costello

It's hard for Americans to understand, but we didn't have the 24 hour pop radio that you all had. And everything was decoded through a series of other interpretations. So you would hear these very bizarre versions of The Four Tops or The Who played by a Glenn Miller-style swing band with a guy who was – A really elderly guy who was like 35. You know, my dad was about 35 when he was doing this.

908.14 - 929.194 Elvis Costello

You know, it seemed really weird, but that was the way I saw music first. I would go to the dance hall with him on a Saturday afternoon. I'd go to the radio broadcast when school schedule would allow it. which was get there at 8 in the morning and watch a bunch of musicians smoke cigarettes and scratch themselves until it was time to go on the BBC and play an hour-long show with guest singers.

929.234 - 947.428 Elvis Costello

And those guest singers could be anybody from the Hollies to Engelbert Humperdinck. But it was a glimpse, and it took away some of the mystique, but it also made me realize this strange exchange between the mundanity of the workaday job and the magic when the light went on.

948.484 - 957.863 Elvis Costello

Elvis, you've done a new project called 50 Songs for 50 Days. And these are political songs, a lot of them. What role does music play in politics for you?

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