The Money Mondays
The MARKETING Expert's Guide to Making More Money | Neil Patel 💵 109
Mon, 17 Feb 2025
Want to boost your income? In this episode, marketing expert Neil Patel shares his best tips and strategies for making more money through smart marketing and investing.---Neil Patel is a digital marketing expert, entrepreneur, and co-founder of companies like Crazy Egg, Hello Bar, and KISSmetrics. Specializing in SEO and content marketing, he has helped major brands like Amazon and HP boost their online visibility. Patel is known for his data-driven strategies and shares marketing tips through his blog, podcast, and YouTube channel.---Like this episode? Watch more like it 👇Shark Tank’s Daymond John: Life, Best Sales and Business Strategies: https://youtu.be/RkHBezJ3n8s"We Did $4.5 Million In Sales Without Running Any Ads" - Neel Dhingra: https://youtu.be/1XT4_gMJ450Peter Voogd & Dan Zrihen: Sales Strategies That Made Them Millions: https://youtu.be/HlT3MVS1jigWhat Erik Huberman Knows About Marketing That You Don't!: https://youtu.be/aN-prmzV20YWatch ALL Full Episodes Here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLs0D-M5aH-0IOUKtQPKts-VZfO55mfH6k---The Money Mondays is a business podcast here to teach you how to make money, invest money, and donate money by showcasing some of the world's most successful people and how they do the same. Hosted by serial entrepreneur Dan Fleyshman, the youngest founder of a publicly traded company in history, this money podcast gives you an exclusive behind the scenes look at how the wealthiest celebrities, entrepreneurs, athletes and influencers make, invest and donate money.If you want to learn more business and investing while you work to improve your financial life, you're in the right place! Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/@themoneymondays?sub_confirmation=1Dan Fleyshman,The Money MondaysLearn more here: https://themoneymondays.comWatch all the podcast episodes: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLs0D-M5aH-0IOUKtQPKts-VZfO55mfH6kLet’s Connect...Website: https://themoneymondays.comPodcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-money-mondays/id1663564091Twitter: https://twitter.com/themoneymondaysLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-money-mondays/about/TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@themoneymondaysFB: https://www.facebook.com/The-Money-Mondays-110233585203220/
Chapter 1: How does Neil Patel evaluate investment opportunities?
When I used to invest in companies, I would look at things like, first off, is it a big TAM? TAM stands for Total Addressable Market. It doesn't matter how good you are at execution, if you go after a really tiny market, if you capture 100% of it, you're only going to make so much money. So you want to go after big markets where people are spending hundreds of billions a year.
If someone captures 1% of it, you're generating a billion in revenue a year. That's a lot of money.
Larry Ellison calls from Oracle. He wants to buy NP Digital. He's going to offer you a billion dollars. Would you sell it?
No.
love what i'm doing ladies and gentlemen welcome to a very special edition of the money mondays we are here inside of the rv motorhome parked right outside of ty lopez's house because there's an event going on inside so we pulled up the rv right into his driveway and i've been doing back to back to back to back podcasts with local friends luckily neil patel
happens to live nearby in Beverly Hills. And so I was super excited to get him over here because he's a very, very busy character. He's built some amazing companies over his career, from Kissmetrics to Crazy Egg and everything in between, been acquiring companies left and right.
And so we're going to ask him three core topics, how to make money, how to invest money, and how to give it away to charity. Without further ado, Mr. Neil Patel, give us a quick two-minute bio so we can get straight to the money.
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Chapter 2: What is NP Digital and how does it operate globally?
My name is Neil Patel. I am the co-founder of NP Digital. We're a global ad agency, have a few software companies, and we spend our time just helping companies grow, drive more traffic, lead sales, and pretty much it.
The fastest intro in Money Monday's history in 109 episodes.
On like two minutes, I'm like, I already dragged it out. I'm like, I got like two seconds, but all right.
Okay. Walk us through what is NP Digital? When you say a global ad agency, what does that mean?
Yeah, so we are in, I think, 20-ish countries, 19 or 20, something like that, or 21. We have people all around the world. And let's say if you're a company like L'Oreal, which we work with, or Adobe, or pick a name, you know, where they say we need to do marketing to sell more cosmetic products or software or enterprise security, whatever it may be.
We market to companies and people within all the countries that they're targeting.
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Chapter 3: When should a company consider hiring a marketing agency?
So why do Fortune 500 companies that have zillions and zillions of dollars, why don't they work in-house? Why do they hire ad agencies or why do they hire firms like yours?
They typically have people in-house and then they hire companies that specialize in certain things that they can help their internal team just get faster results and better results.
So when a company is first getting going, they're doing their first million, five million, ten million, they're really getting their bearings about them. When do you think it's time to start to consider to hire an agency?
You can hire one at any stage. I don't necessarily know if everyone needs one, but like for example, if you're at a million, $2 million, there could be a contractor that you know that will charge you $2,500 a month and can do really well and just drive a ton of Facebook ads and drive you more revenue. And that's great.
If you hire someone full-time internally, it may cost you a hundred grand a year. Why not pay the person 2,500 bucks a month, which ends up being $30,000 a year, which is way cheaper than hiring that full-time person for a hundred grand a year.
So someone's fresh out of college and they're making a decision. They want to go get a job working for NP Digital or they're going to go start their company, start their business, be an entrepreneur. How does someone make a decision for themselves? Should I get a job? Should I become an entrepreneur? Should I sit home and do nothing? Should I travel the world?
What would you say to someone that's first trying to figure out their life?
do whatever you're passionate about. If you already know you love something like cooking or making necklaces or hats, go do that. If you're like, one day I want to start a business in this space, instead of just going off and starting a business, I highly recommend working for someone for a little bit. Ideally a fast growing growth stage startup, not an early startup, but a growth stage one.
So you can learn from a lot of their mistakes and also build up your Rolodex and gain connections from working there for a little bit. And then go venture off on your own because you'll avoid making a lot of the common mistakes.
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Chapter 4: Should you pursue a job or start your own business?
So that's on the making money. So let's talk about the investing side. Someone, they went out there, they got their career, they started making six figures a year. Their value in their house went up a couple hundred grand and boom, they got some capital. Now they got a couple hundred grand to work with.
How do you start to think about when is the first time I should be investing my money, whether it's into my brain or into investments?
If you have a few hundred grand, I would recommend investing in yourself. You're gonna be the best investment, hands down, whether it's leveling up your skillset, your knowledge, your Rolodex, your connections, whatever it may be, invest in yourself.
If you wanna park money somewhere else, stock market, startups, or whatever it may be, I would actually start off with the companies that you use on a daily basis that you're super passionate about. So for example, if you know all you and your friends are addicted to buying on Amazon instead of going to Walmart, then just buy a little bit of Amazon stock. For sure. It's a really simple model.
But if you're the only friend that's really into something, let's say like this energy drink, and you're the only one really consuming it and no one else is, you may want to be careful putting your money in that. But if it's an established company that you know everyone uses and loves and they're continually growing, park some of your money there. Not a lot.
If you have 100 grand, you can park 3%, 4%, 5% max into something.
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Chapter 5: How should you start investing your money?
Fun fact, since you just mentioned it, do you know what the number one performing stock in human history is?
I think it's Monster Energy?
Monster Energy Drink. Yeah. That's right. It's real life. When you see something like Monster Energy Drink, when you go to a store and you see Red Bull, Monster, and Rockstar, you've seen those same brands for over two decades. Yeah. It's just math and time compounds. They're in hundreds of thousands of stores in America, millions of stores around the world. Math and time compounds.
Okay, so on the investing side, you must get bombarded over the years because you're one of the most famous, your top five most famous on social media from the business category. You get hit up nonstop left and right. How do you decide if you're going to invest into a company when you get pitched by someone online or in real life?
I haven't invested in a company in ages. I stopped because it was too much work and I don't have the time. But what I started doing was just investing in funds and then let them pick and choose. I started dealing with all the K1s for tax time. When I used to invest in companies, I would look at things like, first off, is it a big TAM? TAM stands for Total Addressable Market.
It doesn't matter how good you are at execution. If you go after a really tiny market, if you capture a hundred percent of it, you're only going to make so much money. So you want to go after big markets where people are spending hundreds of billions a year. If someone captures 1% of it, you're generating a billion in revenue a year. That's a lot of money.
You got a business that can sell for a crap ton of cash for that. So first is a big TAM, second is a team. The team needs to compliment each other and they need to have ideally experience within that category. And the third thing I look for is traction. If someone can't build something or create something and get it out there without money,
they're not going to usually do well with money because most businesses, unless you're trying to create like an open AI where you need tons of data centers and computing power, you can just get something out there and figure out ways to get the money. For example, don't eat out as much for a few months and use some of that money to start your idea up.
If someone's not willing to go above and beyond to just get something out there and get traction, they're not going to do well with someone else's money. They're more likely to just burn it.
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Chapter 6: What factors does Neil Patel consider in acquisitions?
The other type of company we look to buy is not necessarily regional based. It is, let's call it industry specific based. So let's say we only offered SEO and we offer more than that, but for this example, let's just go with that. And let's go back with, let's hypothetically say we make 90 million a year. And let's say someone else offers paid advertising services and we don't.
And let's say they also generate 10 million a year in revenue. If we know we can take all our customers paying us 90 million a year for one product and say, hey, what's the demand for paid? And let's say it's 30 more million bucks. We close that business and we get another $30 million. We're now at $130. We take their customers that are paying $10 million.
Maybe we get $5 million in revenue from selling them SEO. Now we're at $135 million. And that's the model with M&A that we really optimize for.
So your acquisition is almost free because you're kind of choosing your own adventure, right? Yeah.
Yeah, but sadly, you still have to pay money for it up front. Sadly. Yes. But if you use bank debt, a bank usually can lend you, if you have no investors, two and a half to three and a half times profit, assuming you're at scale. Scale being, call it $20-ish million minimum a year in profit. And if you're buying a company, if we call it six, seven times, eight times profit...
and you can double, triple and cut the cost down. Well, maybe at the end of the day, that six times turns into three times because of the growth and the cost savings, the bank will float it all.
So in that example, like a $10 million business, let's say they're netting around $2 million, right? Yeah. What's the ballpark? Obviously, there's a wide scale depending on the industry. What's a ballpark you would pay for that company?
$2 million, assuming they're growing at a good pace.
Gross $10 million, netted $2 million.
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