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Chapter 1: What was the recent court ruling against Donald Trump?
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, my client was found liable for putting his finger in E. Jean Carroll's vagina without her consent and sexually assaulting her. But he claims that his reputation was harmed by the implication that it was his penis and not his finger. As a result, my client has been severely damaged.
Sure, he's on audio recording talking about touching and grabbing women without their consent in their genitals. Sure, there were other women who have come forward with statements. Sure, Donald Trump has engaged in all this other conduct that reputationally would come in in a case like this. His friendship with Jeffrey Epstein, all of that. But ladies and gentlemen, he's claiming he was injured.
Trump's going to sit there at that trial? Do you know what that deposition of Donald Trump would have looked like that ABC ran away from? Because I think them and their lawyers knew, who were good lawyers too, they knew that they would have humiliated Trump at that deposition.
The door would have been open to all of Trump's sexual conduct because Trump is claiming reputational harm on the basis of the technical difference in New York between sexual assault and rape based on finger and genitals and saying that that's what's harmed his reputation. That's what he's going with. So it's just extra frustrating.
I think that ABC and Disney would settle that case knowing with this coming out. But I could have – we told you that this is where this court of appeals verdict outcome was going to happen, that they were going to affirm the verdict. And I think it also shows people too – That even with Trump winning the election, notice they refer to him as Mr. Trump, not President-elect Trump in the ruling.
And notice that they didn't bend over backwards to bend the knee. They found that he lost. And I think that's a good sign. The judiciary helped. Yeah.
The key thing that we see over and over and over and over again is if you do bend the knee to Trump in these situations, that is how you lose, that is how you get humiliated, and that is how you actually cause serious damage. But what we've seen time and time again is if you actually stand up to him, then you win more times than not, because for the most part,
Donald Trump is all bluster and he is just trying to bully, bully his way around the situation. And that is exactly what he's doing here. And one of the frustrating things about this right here is that you know that ABC and Disney made a calculated decision.
in the way that they settled this case because donald trump won the election if donald trump did not win the election i don't think they would have settled the case i think they would have um not been as fearful and i think they would have then pretended to stick to their principles but i think they really showed their cards by doing this because they clearly want uh
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Chapter 2: How is the MAGA movement divided?
And look, thanks to our pro-democracy sponsors, you know, we don't have outside investors here on the Midas Touch Network. So we get scrappy with it. You know, we got to find ways that we can keep on competing with and beating Fox and ABC and CNN and all those networks on digital. We do that through Patreon.com slash Midas Touch and MidasPlus.com.
We do it with those pro-democracy sponsors right there. Shout out to everybody there. Let me walk you through this thought experiment here. Now, what if President Xi Jinping of China started posting on his official social media accounts that he was considering conquering Japan? Thereafter, he posted some meme of himself, AI, hoisting a Chinese flag on top of a Japanese building in Tokyo.
Then he did another post where he talked about turning Japan's leaders into governors or members of the CCP, just right after each other like that. Do you think Japan would be taking that as a joke? Do you think the international community would go, oh, that's just Xi. He's a troll. Xi the troll. Or do you think that, wow, there must be an attack On Japan, that is imminent.
Okay, I think you know the answer to that hypothetical. So that's both why you need to and we need to take Trump's threats seriously when he threatens about conquering Canada or Panama or Greenland, right? You should take that seriously. And if it's just a troll and Trump does not back it up, which he does, Doesn't usually, he just goes and plays golf after making posts like that.
Do you see why that would make him look so incredibly weak to people like Putin and Xi and Kim Jong-un and MBS? If you can't back up fight words like that, and it's just, oh, that's just him, he's a troll. That's not some form of sophisticated negotiation, okay? That's just being a freaking idiot. and that's as weak as you can get.
Similarly, when I teach negotiations in my law school classes and even in my undergrad classes that I teach, I always tell people that time is one of your biggest allies in a negotiation and you need to use time to your advantage. The worst thing you can do as a negotiator
is to create some arbitrary self-imposed deadline that you can't meet and that your adversary in a negotiation is aware of because they know that you're working under a constraint that if you fail you will get embarrassed or lose the negotiation so oftentimes when i teach negotiation or i'm involved in a negotiation i want to test people utilizing time
as a negotiating tool so trump creates a self-imposed deadline of his negotiations with vladimir putin over ukraine and trump announces that he's going to get it done within 24 hours of winning the election which he's already failed to do that so assume that he's now claiming i didn't mean after the election i mean 24 hours after the inauguration Now put yourself in Putin's shoes.
So Putin knows that if Trump doesn't get that deal, Trump is going to be mocked mercilessly here. It'll be viewed as a failure. And people are going to say, look, you didn't deliver on that. I mean, perhaps. Putin would be viewing our media as though our media will actually hold Trump accountable.
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