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Dems Unleash Brutal Cross-Exam of GOP Witnesses

Wed, 07 May 2025

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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Democratic Congress Members expertly cross-examining Trump cabinet members like Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent and Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem during critical hearings that took place. DeleteMe: Today get 20% off your DeleteMe plan when you go to https://JoinDeleteMe.com/meidas and use promo code: MEIDAS at checkout! Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Chapter 1: How did Democrats cross-examine Trump cabinet members?

0.209 - 11.115 Democratic Congress Member Garcia

The second form, ma'am, reclaiming my time. Ma'am, please, ma'am, reclaiming my time. I'd like you to avoid the filibuster so I can get to all my questions, please.

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11.455 - 33.166 Ben Meiselas

The Democrats were ripping into Donald Trump's cabinet members testifying on Capitol Hill with some powerful cross-examination. You saw right there, Democratic Congresswoman Escobar from Texas cross-examining the dog killer, Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem. More on that cross-exam in a little bit.

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33.506 - 51.716 Ben Meiselas

I now want to show you Democratic Congress member Mark Pocan, his cross-examination of Treasury Secretary Scott Besant, where he basically just asks Besant the most basic question, who pays for Trump's tariffs? Watch the response. Let's play this clip.

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51.916 - 53.717 Mark Carney

Who pays tariffs, Mr. Secretary?

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59.44 - 60.06 Scott Besant

No, no, no.

60.14 - 63.201 Mark Carney

Answer the questions I ask, please. I only have five minutes. Who pays tariffs?

63.521 - 64.121 Scott Besant

Sorry?

64.441 - 66.702 Mark Carney

Who pays tariffs? Mr. Secretary, please.

66.802 - 67.222 Scott Besant

Excuse me.

Chapter 2: What was the exchange between Mark Pocan and Scott Besant?

312.507 - 337.275 Democratic Congress Member Garcia

on deaf ears and just blanket refusal on the part of my Republican colleagues to engage in any kind of debate. So what I will just do, I will give my Republican colleagues an opportunity to explain to their constituents, to their colleagues and to the American people why they believe this amendment should not be approved by the committee.

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343.612 - 366.193 Ben Meiselas

Then we have Democratic Congress member really grill into Treasury Secretary Besant right here about Scott Besant's employment of this guy, Marco Elez, who made all these doge worker who made racist post. And then Besant tries to play dumb about it. Great cross-exam skills here. Play this clip.

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367.154 - 396.773 Democratic Congress Member Garcia

statements that Mr. Ales had made in the prior year. One was, you could not pay me to marry outside my ethnicity. Another was that he wanted to normalize Indian hate. A third was, just for the record, I was racist before it was cool. And another was, I just want a eugenic immigration policy. Is that too much to ask? This man resigned shortly after that article was published.

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396.793 - 405.319 Scott Besant

But you don't recall him being there? Congressman, I did not recall that individual's name, but that individual was terminated. He was terminated.

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405.399 - 415.646 Democratic Congress Member Garcia

Okay. I appreciate that. Although it appears that he then later turned up, that he was rehired, I guess, and that he's continuing.

415.666 - 416.466 Scott Besant

Not by Treasury, sir.

416.566 - 443.5 Democratic Congress Member Garcia

Okay. But he was continuing to do work. But in this instance, HHS and three other departments. I have no idea. I didn't follow his career. OK, well, you didn't catch J.D. Vance saying that he didn't think he should be terminated. Did you miss that, too? I don't recall that. All right. Do you recall Mr. Trump saying that he. should have a second chance. I don't recall that. No, okay.

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