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The Fight Over Fluoride

Fri, 04 Apr 2025

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For decades, the majority of Americans have been drinking tap water with added fluoride to improve oral health. But WSJ’s Kris Maher says that backlash to fluoride is spreading. Nearly 20 communities have halted the practice since October and Utah has now banned adding fluoride to water across the state. This comes after a landmark ruling by a federal judge that the mineral poses an “unreasonable” risk, and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has spoken out against it. Ryan Knutson hosts.  Sign up for WSJ’s free What’s News newsletter. Further Listening: -The Fight to Kick Soda Out of Food Stamps   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What is the current controversy surrounding fluoride in drinking water?

5.68 - 8.881 Ryan Knutson

So, Chris, how are your teeth?

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10.181 - 15.042 Kris Maher

So, you know, I grew up having a number of cavities, actually.

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15.902 - 31.645 Ryan Knutson

Our colleague Chris Marr has been reporting on one of the biggest debates in teeth, whether or not fluoride should be added to drinking water. For decades, municipalities around the U.S. have been doing this to improve oral health. But recently, fluoride has become more controversial.

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32.731 - 40.914 Kris Maher

I have done a lot of reporting on water, but really, to be honest, fluoride never really hit my radar as an issue until last year.

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43.135 - 47.697 Ryan Knutson

Over the past year, communities across the country have started to reconsider fluoride.

48.377 - 59.142 Kris Maher

There's a shift in tone where I think there's just more credence to the position that, you know, fluoride may have been a good thing in the past, but it just may not be necessary now. It's really gaining some momentum.

59.983 - 65.987 Ryan Knutson

And last week, Utah became the very first state to ban local governments from adding fluoride to water.

66.407 - 70.309 News Anchor

Utah taking a side in the renewed debate over fluoride in drinking water.

70.449 - 74.232 News Anchor

Utah's now the first state to ban fluoride in drinking water.

Chapter 2: Why did Utah ban fluoride in drinking water?

698.495 - 705.999 Dr. Johnny Johnson

And he was serious about his support for fluoride. People die of dental infections that get into their bloodstream.

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706.059 - 718.525 Kris Maher

He showed some slides that showed some mouths that had been really horribly decayed. And I think those were striking for people to see. That's horrible. We don't like to see that at all.

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719.625 - 740.289 Kris Maher

He and other dentists argue that especially low-income people may really be the ones who will lose out from fluoride being taken out of water because they don't have the best access to dental care necessarily, maybe not even to fluoride toothpaste. From that perspective, this is potentially very risky for a large segment of the population.

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743.334 - 754.281 Ryan Knutson

Does Johnson or the rest of the dental industry have any financial incentives here? I mean, like, is there sort of like big fluoride that's trying to protect their business in some way?

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755.161 - 764.227 Kris Maher

Really what they're saying is that, you know, it's not a financial issue. It's the patients that they treat. It's the suffering that they see. They don't want people to get cavities.

764.747 - 771.231 Ryan Knutson

But is anybody making money off the fact that there's fluoride in the water? And is that influencing this debate in any way?

772.546 - 788.13 Kris Maher

No, I mean, you take a town like Bartow or some of these other small communities, they're not spending a ton of money on fluoride or this chemical that creates the fluoride. They're spending maybe $20,000 a year. So it's not a tremendous amount of money.

791.872 - 802.907 Ryan Knutson

At the town hall, after Johnson finished speaking, the anti-fluoride camp took the mic. One person there to represent it was Florida's Surgeon General, Dr. Joseph Latipo.

803.348 - 815.873 Dr. Joseph Latipo

Dental health, very important. Fortunately, there are alternatives, right? There's toothpaste. There's mouthwash. This isn't expensive stuff. I mean, this is stuff that people of all income levels can afford.

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