Garry Nolan, PhD, is an immunologist and professor at Stanford University School of Medicine. He is also a business executive and Executive Director of the Board of the Sol Foundation, a research and advocacy center focused on UAP studies. www.thesolfoundation.org Hunt with confidence using onX Hunt. Start your free trial today at: https://huntsmarter.smart.link/srwbpznr2 This video is sponsored by BetterHelp. Visit https://BetterHelp.com/JRE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Yeah. Very nice to meet you, sir. Nice to meet you as well. Thank you for doing this. I really appreciate it. Tell everybody what you do. Tell everybody what your official position is. You're a professor at the School of Medicine at Stanford. What do you do?
So my day job is in cancer research and cancer biology, mostly immunology and cancer. Much of what my laboratory does is not so much the biology of cancer, but developing instruments that create the data that allow us to analyze the complexities of how the immune system interfaces with tumors and how tumors... basically re-enable the immune system to help the cancer itself.
So the problem has been we don't have the ability to collect enough data, or not until recently, to collect and understand what all of that means. So we've been kind of poking in the dark for decades. And so probably for the last 20 years, I've developed a number of instruments and turned them into companies that allow everybody to access a level of information they couldn't get before.
Explain that. The immune system allows the tumors?
So what happens is that there's sort of a dance between the mutations that initiate a tumor and then sort of an evolution of how the tumor eventually learns how to trick the immune system to not recognize it. So we have all kinds of internal—I mean, literally every day, every person, you'll develop five cancer-like objects inside of your body.
But the immune system and your body has a way of shutting it down very quickly. But with enough time and with enough variation, tumors will eventually evolve in a way—
that trick the immune system not only into not recognize them, but in fact to help them and feed them in a way to create an inflammatory environment that actually then the tumor uses to propagate its own cell division and then metastasis.
So it's a normal function of natural human biology to create tumors.
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