José Andrés is a chef, restaurateur, TV host, author, and founder of the nonprofit organization World Central Kitchen. His new book, "Change the Recipe: Because You Can't Build a Better World Without Breaking Some Eggs," is available now. He is the co-host of NBC's new cooking competition show "Yes, Chef!" instagram.com/chefjoseandres Don’t miss out on all the action - Download the DraftKings app today! Sign-up using dkng.co/rogan or with my promo code ROGAN. GAMBLING PROBLEM? CALL 1-800-GAMBLER, (800) 327-5050 or visit gamblinghelplinema.org (MA). Call 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY). Please Gamble Responsibly. 888-789-7777/visit ccpg.org (CT), or visit www.mdgamblinghelp.org (MD). 21+ and present in most states. (18+ DC/KY/NH/WY). Void in ONT/OR/NH. Eligibility restrictions apply. On behalf of Boot Hill Casino & Resort (KS). 1 per new customer. $5+ first-time bet req. Max. $200 issued as non-withdrawable Bonus Bets that expire in 7 days (168 hours). Stake removed from payout. Terms: sportsbook.draftkings.com/promos. Ends 5/18/25 at 11:59 PM ET. Sponsored by DK. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: Who is José Andrés and what is his background?
It feels like it's a lot of steakhouses. A lot of steakhouses, yeah. Not a lot of great ones, though. A lot of women.
Overall, it's good.
I'm not going to be the one saying it. You can. I'm not going to be the one.
There's a couple of good ones.
I'm not going to be. I mean, listen, it's a great chef. My friend Tom Colicchio has one. What's that one? You don't even know that. It's so many casinos. I don't know. But Tom Colicchio, the chef, wow, you know everything. Yeah, that's the one we've been to at MGM.
Oh, that one's great. Tom is a great guy. What is it called? Craft Steak? Craft is a craft one.
I think Wolf and Pack has another one. Anyway, it's many other ones with names, with chefs behind, with no chefs. Yeah. Big name chefs. I like Cleaver's great.
It's off the strip. I should go.
Very good. Yeah, people... This is good you mentioned that because when we go to Vegas... We stay in the casinos, and we go to the casinos, hotels, and that's it.
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Chapter 2: What inspired José to start Bazaar Meat?
Yeah, on that I feel I'm more in your club. I think the best university is the university of life.
Yes. As long as you're really engaging. As long as you're really doing something and really challenging yourself and really applying yourself to something. That's, yeah, I agree with you. And, you know, you have to have a lot of, I think the more interest you have, the more things you're fascinated by, the broader your understanding of human beings will be and the better your life will be.
Yeah, and engaging. Yes, engaging. I know lately I've been... you know, taking the taxi ride or the Uber ride. I drive myself sometimes, but I'm realizing, for example, the most fascinating moment is when I go back to use the subway. It's just... And just talk to people.
It's just great.
Or see people, people watch. Well, I mean, in your case, everybody will recognize you. In my case, yeah, people may recognize me too, obviously in D.C., New York. And then things happen. So you have to engage for all these things of education, as you said, to happen. Because, yeah, it's the only way things happen. I mean, you know, I have this new book.
This is another commercial, Change the Recipe, which I'm touring right now. And I say one of the quotes I give is very important to me. I mean, it's a phrase probably you heard often many times before that life starts at the end of your comfort zone. You and I were talking about education. That means that the true education happens at the end of your comfort zone. Right.
Because if you are not pushed to the limits... What it is is what it is and that's it. You don't need to know anything else. You don't need to learn anything else. You're in a safe space. You're in your cube. You're in your room. Everybody's protecting you and the system protects you and you are okay. The only thing, the only moment will become interesting is when you leave that room of comfort.
You go to the edges of that horizon And you cross that line of the horizon. That's the moment that life gets really interesting.
Yes. Yeah, I agree. I think just a lot of people that don't have experience challenging themselves, they get fearful. They get fearful. They anticipate things. They get anxiety. And they just never learned how to challenge themselves. That's the problem. They never walked out on the end of the pier. so to speak. They never push themselves. And because of that, they're terrified of it.
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Chapter 3: What is the significance of food in our lives?
Oh, yeah. I think we're just little babies, and they're not ready to let us know yet.
That's what I think. I'm sure they're trying. Some of them, I think.
They're trying to contact others like we are. I think some of them have been here. I had a guy on yesterday. His name is Hal Puthoff. He's a physicist that's been working with the government with this stuff forever. He said they have 10 retrieved crafts that are of non-human intelligence, 10 that the United States is in possession of.
And he said during the Bush administration, during George Bush's administration, they were contemplating disclosure to the American people And they wanted to get all these physicists and scientists and psychologists involved.
to make a list of things that would be negatively impacted by disclosure and things that would be positively impact by disclosure and give them a numerical value, like a zero to 10 value. And when they calculated it all up at the end of the day, the cons outweighed the pros and they decided not to disclose.
So during the Bush administration, during George Bush's administration, during 9-11, during that time, that time period, They were contemplating – this is 2004. They were contemplating having disclosure and releasing to people the fact that we are in possession of non-human intelligent crafts.
They have recovered biological entities, meaning beings from another planet that are preserved that we have and that non-human crafts are visiting this planet. Or might not even be visiting. They might actually be here. They might have bases in the ocean. They might have bases somewhere in the mountains. But that this is a real thing. So he started working on this in 2004.
And he's, you know, 100% convinced that we're not alone. There's been movies about it. This is... How do you call it? Some 51. Area 51.
Area 51. Listen... Nothing will give me more joy. As a young boy, I always thought, man, could I be the guy that finds E.T.? It wouldn't be cool. And especially if scenes is a good alien species that is an alien species of goodness. Imagine it's a science fiction movie and planets like us is part of... Yeah, let's say they're here. And let's say that all the...
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