Dr Humphries is a conventionally educated medical doctor who was a participant in conventional hospital systems from 1989 until 2011 as an internist and nephrologist. She left her conventional hospital position in good standing, of her own volition in 2011. Since then, she’s been furthering her research into the medical literature on vaccines, immunity, history, and functional medicine. She is the author of "Dissolving Illusions: Disease, Vaccines, and the Forgotten History." http://dissolvingillusions.com/ Save $20 on your first subscription of AG1 at drinkag1.com/joerogan 50% off your first box at https://www.thefarmersdog.com/rogan! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: What are Dr. Suzanne Humphries' views on vaccines?
the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day you just said something that's like very important you can't be dogmatic when you're talking about vaccines or about anything
Yes, it is good to keep an open mind, isn't it, and be flexible and look at a 360-degree view of things rather than your tunnel vision and what you're indoctrinated into, isn't it?
Yeah. And especially if you know that that indoctrination has been on purpose and profitable. And, you know, one of the great things about your book is, first of all, your book's called Dissolving Illusions.
I know I've talked about on the podcast a bunch of times, but you you also highlight a lot of things that we know are beneficial that somehow or another get lumped into nonsense, like even cinnamon.
Yeah. Cinnamon is a powerful herb, actually, and it's known to be helpful in glucose handling for a lot of diabetics taking it in capsule form now. I noticed at the end of my nephrology career. that a lot of my own patients were taking cinnamon capsules. But it also has a lot of vitamin C in it, and I think that was probably one of the keys.
A lot of those old remedies that we wrote about, the magic in them probably was the vitamin C in them.
I dismissed all that stuff as total nonsense. I was like, oh, that's hippie nonsense, like echinacea, like get out of here. It's hippie nonsense. Garlic, come on, get out of here. Then the more I've read things, especially like garlic is incredible for staph infections for some reason.
It is. And it doesn't develop drug resistance like a lot of the drugs that are engineered for it. Yeah, the hippies seem to have got it right, I think.
Well, that whole idea of natural remedies is so just universally dismissed by non-silly people. When you say natural remedies, that's great. If you have a heart attack, go to a doctor, stupid. That's generally people's appeal to authority. But the doctor should be recommending those things too. They're good too. Like vitamin D, super important. Vitamin A, super important.
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Chapter 2: How do natural remedies compare to conventional medicine?
The playing field, the goalposts, everything was changed so that despite the fact that there was more paralytic polio in the years after that vaccine was introduced, they were able to show a complete cascading drop of paralytic polio simply because of the way they changed the definitions of what polio is and what could cause it.
And they started testing for the virus, where before they would never test for the virus.
And when they started testing for the virus later, what they would find that people had Guillain-Barre syndrome, they didn't have virus, or they had Coxsackie virus or echo virus, or they were lead poisoned or mercury poisoned, which was the mercury and lead were the leading treatments of the day, including bloodletting.
Yeah.
They were literally blowing smoke up people's butts. Like that's where the term comes from. Because if you want to Google that now, you'll see that there's an instrument that does it. So the polio story, where to even begin. And so there's about 70 pages. And so that became my obsession. So. When people said, what about polio? And I started digging this up. I went deep into it.
Did you dive into pesticides?
Yes. Yes. You have to dive into pesticides because the tonnage of production of DDT absolutely mirrored the diagnosis for polio in the days. And the countries that still make DDT today is where we're still seeing this paralytic polio situation happen.
And also, weren't the first cases, did they break out in a rural community?
The first cases of polio, yes.
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Chapter 3: What are the historical controversies surrounding vaccines?
It sounds like a cult. It sounds like a crazy cult that the whole world's been sucked into. Giving a COVID shot to a baby today is insane.
Three of them. They get three by the certain, you'd have to look up the schedule, but I believe it starts at six months and they get three of them kind of boom, boom, boom. Are doctors really recommending this? It's on the, look, there's a group of people called ACIP, the doctors, usually with vaccine interest in their bank accounts that make the recommendations for the vaccines.
And they've recommended vaccines. that six-month-old. So if your doctor is following the ACIP program, you have to be offered that vaccine. And now that doctor, this is another part of the story, is that doctor's likely to lose $250,000 a year if they don't do that because there's incentive given to
hospitals and doctors, which is what naively I was on the other end of when I woke up in 2008 and said, wait a minute, why are we doing this stuff to my sick, inflamed patients? You're giving more inflammation. It's because the hospital would lose something like $40,000 if they didn't give a vaccine within the first 24 hours of admission.
Oh, my God.
And they would get $40,000. It was all a money game. That's really the bottom line of it. And I didn't know that until a nurse years ago who was a high-level administration. She said, Suzanne, this is why they did that to you. Oh, wow. Okay. Well, at least it makes sense now.
Nobody wants to think of it as a business. Nobody wants to think you're making business decisions at the expense of someone's health and possibly whether or not they make it. Like, what are you doing?
Well, that's been the case since basically the medical profession was infiltrated in the early 1900s by high-level interests that didn't want us thinking for ourselves and carrying on with the natural cures that actually work. carrying on with normal midwifery.
There was just so many changes that happened as a result of best practice medicine, not to mention the forming of the AMA by a couple of real quacks. That's a really good story. And the AMA would give their stamp of approval. So say you created an infant formula, well, it would say AMA approved, and your infant formula would sell even better. Remember when doctors smoked camels?
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