Andrew Schulz is a stand-up comic, actor, and podcaster. He's the host of the "Flagrant" podcast with Akaash Singh, and the "Brilliant Idiots" podcast with Charlamagne Tha God. Look for his new special "Life" on March 4 on Netflix. www.theandrewschulz.com https://www.netflix.com/title/81741999 Try ZipRecruiter FOR FREE at ziprecruiter.com/rogan Visit www.squarespace.com/ROGAN to save 10% off your first purchase of a website. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: What are Joe Rogan and Andrew Schulz's thoughts on psychedelics?
the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day oprah's doing an episode on psychedelics how about that god bless that means she's definitely done it yeah you don't do a fucking are we rolling yet Are we rolling? Yeah? Yeah. Yeah, you don't do an episode on psychedelics unless you fucking visited the Maya. Unless you dabbled. Unless you got in there.
You think it's ayahuasca or mushrooms? Most of those fancy people like to do the ayahuasca. Yeah. You know, because then you can claim spirituality above all other people. Oh, you think there's like a pretentiousness? Oh, 100%. There's a... I've done it. I've done it. I've experienced the mother god. Yeah. The god. Yeah. I've experienced Gaia. Yeah, yeah. It's like, I think...
I think people do really do experience that, but also there's a certain type of personality that wants to let you know that they're enlightened. Yeah. They're further down the road than you, Andrew.
Yeah.
And one way to get instant street cred in the psychedelics world is to say you do ayahuasca. Yeah. If you do mushrooms, you might just be some asshole at a party. You and your friends are just fucking giggling nonstop on the couch. It could be that.
There's no points in mushrooms.
Right. You don't get points for that. Yeah. You can say you took a heroic dose. You'll get points amongst the learned. Yeah. Like, oh. Yeah, but the casuals don't give a fuck. The casuals don't give a fuck.
You do ayahuasca, we're going to pay attention a little bit.
Yeah, the casuals are going to go, why did you eat eight grams? Yeah. That seems crazy. But the other people are going to go, whoa, what was that like?
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Chapter 2: Why is Ayahuasca considered more 'spiritual' than mushrooms?
You can always tell the guys who beat themselves up because they beat other people up too.
what is it hurt people hurt people yeah the guys the guys who beat themselves up they're always like super critical about it but look at him yeah fucking bullshit did you ever go through a stage like that not really never no no i figured it out when i was 21 real lucky i talked about this the other day there was one time it was an open mic night and uh the guy went on after me i was hoping that he would bomb and i remember thinking that like what a bitch ass way to think that is yeah oh
Yeah.
That's such a bitch ass way to think. And I completely shifted my perspective because like you don't think like that with martial arts. Like you can't think like that. You know, you can't think like that.
Yeah.
You can't think like that ever. That's like a weak ass thought. Yes. And then I realized like, oh, this is like your brain trying to occupy itself completely.
with you know this time that's gonna be between you and your goal of doing something in comedy and it's so far away you suck you're 21 years old and you suck so everybody else gotta suck so you want people to fail and you want to do better yeah it's like it's just a total scrambly i don't know what i'm doing with my life thought yeah and i realized i was like oh that's a bitch ass thought
But that is very normal for human beings.
Oh yeah. There's a lot of bitches out there.
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Chapter 3: How does Andrew Schulz view the role of cynicism in creativity?
So if it does happen, how do you know? How do you know when that takes place? Now here's the question. Is that the ultimate progression of technology? Is the ultimate progression of technology transcending physical reality and becoming completely digital life? So if that is possible, how do we know if it hasn't already happened? How can we know if it hasn't already happened?
Well, one thing I would say that if this world was scripted, it would be filled with a lot of shit that's exactly like what happened. Trump would get shot in the ear and say, fight, fight, fight. You would have Elon Musk at the inauguration looking like he's on another planet.
Now, Joe, I just want to make the point here. You're making the argument for determinism. No, I'm not.
I'm making the argument that there's a conscious interface. There's consciousness and it's interfacing with something that's not entirely real. And that is the life that we're living in. And we think it's way realer than it actually is.
So is somebody in control of it or they're allowing us to have some semblance of control?
I feel like it might be controlled by the actual things that are inside of it. So I think our destiny is truly in our hands. I really believe that. I like that. And then if that is the case, how is that not real? Well, it is real in a sense, but I think that the actual way that things happen and work is dependent entirely on the level of consciousness that people have that are experiencing it.
This sounds like very hippy-dippy and wooey, and it all comes from a lot of different things, but one of it comes from Tom Campbell, who wrote this very fucking bizarre book that I've listened to on audiobook twice now. Okay. Where he's talking about essentially what we think of as reality is just a simulation. Okay.
The whole entire thing is our consciousness interpreting everything as we experience it throughout the day. But when we are not here, that is not the same thing. What do you mean, when we're not here, when we die, you're saying? If you're not on Mars, is Mars real? Or is Mars something that we agree is real? We agree it's in a certain space and it'll only be there when we get there?
Like if the universe is a true simulation, imagine what a mindfuck. You have a simulation where it's perfect in that it has all of these galaxies and supernovas. The moon aligns perfectly with the earth to cause eclipses. And without the moon being there, our entire atmosphere would fall apart. We would never be able to survive.
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