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Chapter 1: What led to the debate between Wesley Huff and Billy Carson?
What was his argument?
Apart from the fact that he was embarrassed that he lost.
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Well, the cease and desist letter, yeah. The cease and desist letter said, I don't want you to use my name or my face. In anything going forward and anything you've used up until this point, you need to remove. And I was given 24 hours notice to do this.
But if you're a public figure, he's clearly a public figure. Is that even, can you actually say?
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Chapter 2: What was the fallout from the debate?
Chapter 3: How did Wesley Huff prepare for the debate?
Yeah. Confidence is not competency.
Yes.
And unfortunately, those things get confused a lot.
It covers up for competency sometimes.
Yeah. In religion and politics and like all sorts of things. Right.
And everything.
Yeah.
And everything. I mean, I think it's I think because people want to look, it's very difficult to be an expert in a subject. And I think people want to believe that they are and they don't want to do the work.
Right. You know. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, I think that's why, you know, experts themselves feel a lot of inadequacy is because they study a subject and realize, like, I'm never going to get to the bottom of this hole. Right.
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Chapter 4: What are the implications of ancient texts on modern beliefs?
Yeah. I mean, this is the big debate with ancient languages. Like same thing with, yeah, arguably we don't know how any of this was pronounced. Right. I mean, modern Greek speakers get really mad at me when I say that because they're like, of course we know how it's pronounced. It's pronounced like we pronounce it. Right.
And on all my videos where I'm like site translating Greek manuscripts, there's so many comments of modern Greek speakers getting mad at how I'm pronouncing things. But realistically, yeah, we don't really know how most of the things are pronounced with anything.
But isn't that very bizarre when you're translating? Like if you go back to, like, say, the Epic of Gilgamesh. We don't even know what the words sounded like. We kind of know what they represent, and then we do a literal translation of what they represent. But if you've never heard, no one can speak ancient Sumerian.
Yeah. Well, Sumerian's a wild one because it's a language isolate. So Hebrew is an Afro-Semitic language. So Hebrew is related to all of these other languages like Aramaic and Akkadian. language isolates have no adjacent comparisons. So, because I tried to teach myself Sumerian and I failed and I just gave up because I couldn't do it because I had nothing to really compare it to.
So Sumeriologists are very like, they're a field of their own because I learned a little bit of Akkadian because I had studied Semitic languages and there's enough crossover between things like Hebrew and Aramaic and Akkadian, but Sumerian, you have nothing to compare it to.
What did it eventually become?
It just died. It just died? It just died. How? Do we know? I mean, the Sumerians lost to the Assyrians, and the Assyrians got taken over by the Babylonians. I mean, it's just the course of history where things happen. But there are a number of ancient languages that are language isolates, like linear Elamite. We had no idea what linear Elamite even said until 2021. Wow.
Well, I never even heard it until five seconds ago.
I know. There you go. Jamie, if you pull up, if you look up – what's it called? There's a cup, a silver cup. It'll come up if you Google image linear elamite because you think cuneiform looks wild. Linear elamite is completely different than that too. And there's a silver cup, which we had no idea what it said, and then a bunch of researchers –
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Chapter 5: How do ancient languages influence our understanding of history?
Chapter 6: What is the significance of the Dead Sea Scrolls?
Yeah. I mean, this is the big debate with ancient languages. Like same thing with, yeah, arguably we don't know how any of this was pronounced. Right. I mean, modern Greek speakers get really mad at me when I say that because they're like, of course we know how it's pronounced. It's pronounced like we pronounce it. Right.
And on all my videos where I'm like site translating Greek manuscripts, there's so many comments of modern Greek speakers getting mad at how I'm pronouncing things. But realistically, yeah, we don't really know how most of the things are pronounced with anything.
But isn't that very bizarre when you're translating? Like if you go back to, like, say, the Epic of Gilgamesh. We don't even know what the words sounded like. We kind of know what they represent, and then we do a literal translation of what they represent. But if you've never heard, no one can speak ancient Sumerian.
Yeah. Well, Sumerian's a wild one because it's a language isolate. So Hebrew is an Afro-Semitic language. So Hebrew is related to all of these other languages like Aramaic and Akkadian. language isolates have no adjacent comparisons. So, because I tried to teach myself Sumerian and I failed and I just gave up because I couldn't do it because I had nothing to really compare it to.
So Sumeriologists are very like, they're a field of their own because I learned a little bit of Akkadian because I had studied Semitic languages and there's enough crossover between things like Hebrew and Aramaic and Akkadian, but Sumerian, you have nothing to compare it to.
What did it eventually become?
It just died. It just died? It just died. How? Do we know? I mean, the Sumerians lost to the Assyrians, and the Assyrians got taken over by the Babylonians. I mean, it's just the course of history where things happen. But there are a number of ancient languages that are language isolates, like linear Elamite. We had no idea what linear Elamite even said until 2021. Wow.
Well, I never even heard it until five seconds ago.
I know. There you go. Jamie, if you pull up, if you look up – what's it called? There's a cup, a silver cup. It'll come up if you Google image linear elamite because you think cuneiform looks wild. Linear elamite is completely different than that too. And there's a silver cup, which we had no idea what it said, and then a bunch of researchers –
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Chapter 7: How did the translations of biblical texts change over time?
Petra's phenomenal.
Jordan was, I mean, Greece rather was fantastic.
They're all crazy.
God, it's just like when you're just there in the presence of these things and just trying to put your brain back thousands of years and imagine what society was like back then.
Wow.
And you're like, what? I can't get paint to stay on my wall for 10 years. And it's almost exclusively because of the climate. And it got buried in sand. But it's so wild. So wild.
When you say that 1% of ancient Egypt has been discovered, what do you really mean by that?
Of the percentage of what we know that happened in Egyptian history, 1% has been excavated in terms of what we can actually pull out of the ground and look at artifacts. So there's whole eras of pharaohs that we don't know where they're buried. Even when Tutankhamen was discovered, he was kind of a footnote in the pharaohs that we knew about at that time.
And we didn't know he was, you know, as extravagant, as rich as, you know, until we discovered his actual tomb. A lot of people at that time didn't even think it was, he was worth looking into because we have these lists of pharaohs. And the thing with the pharaohs is that they're always trying to, the next pharaoh is always trying to prove that he's the better one.
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Chapter 8: What parallels exist between the Epic of Gilgamesh and the Bible?
Yeah, for sure.
Because it doesn't fit the body.
It has much less erosion. But you could also attribute that to the different densities of the stone. Like that's one of the things about these layers of limestone. It's like some of them are much more porous and some they erode easier.
Yeah.
You do see that.
Yeah.
You know, and I think they're doing a terrible disservice by covering the Sphinx with like new stones. And, you know, they redid the paws and they're doing all that. Like, my God, people like leave it alone, like leave it the way it is.
Yeah, it's this tricky balance between.
Restoration and recreation.
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