Michael Shellenberger is an investigative journalist and founder of Public, a Substack publication, founder and president of Environmental Progress, a research organization that incubates ideas, leaders, and movements, and the CBR Chair of Politics, Censorship and Free Speech at the University of Austin. He is the best-selling author of multiple books, including “Apocalypse Never” and “San Fransicko," and is a Time Magazine "Hero of the Environment" and Green Book Award winner. www.public.news https://environmentalprogress.org/founder-president https://x.com/shellenberger Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Good to see you, man.
How you been, man?
Every day, every day. You've been neck deep in the chaos of the world. I made it to Brazil and back, so I'll put it that way. What was that like? It was intense, man. I mean, it's still going on. We did Twitter Files Brazil. Right.
And three days later, that was back in March, three days later, Elon just throws down and starts to attack this main Supreme Court justice, who's the guy that's now banned X. So X is banned in Brazil. They're in negotiations, but... It was very exciting to be there, and the Brazilians were just relieved.
They were like, everything that we thought was happening is proven by the Twitter Files Brazil. And they were just very grateful to Elon.
So it's been what did the Twitter fires. I know about the Twitter files America. I don't know about the Twitter files in Brazil.
So they this is like one of the most extreme forms of censorship we've seen in democratic countries. India has been pretty bad too. But this what they were the worst of it was that they were a sucker.
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