The Jamie Kern Lima Show
Chelsea Handler Pt 2: How to Be Yourself Unapologetically, Find Your Light & Raise Your Vibration!
Mon, 24 Feb 2025
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Chapter 1: How does Chelsea Handler stay unapologetically herself?
I feel very free. Yeah. I feel free. I don't feel beholden to anyone. It's about feeling free enough to be who you are and know that you're lovable. I have come to a place in my life where there is no shame in my game. You have to believe in yourself. You have to believe in yourself if anyone else is going to believe in you. Yeah. Yeah. And sometimes you have to be that for another person.
You have to tell someone, I believe in you when you see someone down or you see someone struggling.
Do you believe in God? You said that you believe that Roe v. Wade being overturned was a result of the Me Too movement. Yeah. You professed your interest in having sex with then New York City Governor Andrew Cuomo, and you guys ended up on a phone call and then sexting.
I was talking to Joy Behar and Whoopi, I think it was, and I said I would like to be penetrated by the governor of New York. Three days went by and then I heard from him. And I was just like, oh my God, I can't believe this is happening. I'm gonna become the first lady of New York. He was just very flirty. He liked it. Did you ever send pictures or anything back and forth?
Yes, I sent pictures and I pulled the top down of my bikini and I was like, and my brother Roy is taking the picture of me and I'm sure he probably had to delete that.
He made a poster out of it. Oh, yeah. Did he ever send any photos back? Did he, like, sex back? You were popping edibles to meet former President Bush.
I was very stoned when I met the former President of the United States, George W. Bush, and I told him so. I let him know that I was indeed very stoned, and he was very cute about it.
Do you try to avoid spending time around people who completely don't agree with what you agree with?
I can't really spend time around conspiracy theorists. That's a level that I'm not willing to expose. I don't need that energy around me. I find that to be very low vibes. You know the Earth is flat, right?
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Chapter 2: What role do drugs play in Chelsea Handler's life?
Chapter 3: Why did Chelsea Handler want to date Governor Cuomo?
I was talking to Joy Behar and Whoopi, I think it was, and I said I would like to be penetrated by the governor of New York. Three days went by and then I heard from him. And I was just like, oh my God, I can't believe this is happening. I'm gonna become the first lady of New York. He was just very flirty. He liked it. Did you ever send pictures or anything back and forth?
Yes, I sent pictures and I pulled the top down of my bikini and I was like, and my brother Roy is taking the picture of me and I'm sure he probably had to delete that.
He made a poster out of it. Oh, yeah. Did he ever send any photos back? Did he, like, sex back? You were popping edibles to meet former President Bush.
I was very stoned when I met the former President of the United States, George W. Bush, and I told him so. I let him know that I was indeed very stoned, and he was very cute about it.
Do you try to avoid spending time around people who completely don't agree with what you agree with?
I can't really spend time around conspiracy theorists. That's a level that I'm not willing to expose. I don't need that energy around me. I find that to be very low vibes. You know the Earth is flat, right?
By the way, I thought that for a long time, too. Did you?
Yeah, I thought the moon and the sun were the same thing for a long time. I'm a late bloomer. Anything involving science?
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Chapter 4: How does Chelsea Handler approach spirituality?
We could do it outside to be COVID friendly. And so all of these things I thought were in progress, but then once it became real and I was on the East Coast, I never heard from him again.
Did you ever, did he ever like, did you ever send pictures or anything back and forth? Yes.
I sent pictures, of course. Very flirty pictures. Of course. There was one picture I took, like, I think my brother took this of me because once he ghosted me and I realized like, okay, it's over. Like it's not happening. You know what I mean? Like once I accepted that.
Yeah.
Then I just kind of didn't care. And I was like, my brother and I said, I'm going to send, my sister's like, send him one more picture. So I'm like on my Vespa, I'm on a Vespa in Maine. We're renting this house. I'm in, I have a face mask on and a helmet, like showing him how safe I am because of COVID, you know. He was yelling at all of us about COVID at this point.
So I was wanting to be responsible. And I had a bikini on and I pulled the top down of my bikini. And I was like, and my brother Roy is taking the picture of me. And my sister Simone walks out and she's like, What are you doing? What are you doing? That is your brother. But at that point, I just thought like the idea.
The idea of a topless photo of Chelsea Handler somehow accidentally going through the governor's phone and then landing on one of those like big screens during like his early morning COVID briefings on CNN or Fox or MSNBC just brought so much joy to me. Like the idea that I could possibly disrupt the country in that way and give everybody a little ounce of laughter. Yeah.
So I didn't care at that point. But no, that didn't happen. That picture wasn't transmitted onto MSNBC.
Did it ever surface anywhere?
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Chapter 5: What is Chelsea Handler's perspective on female empowerment?
I'm going to find someplace and I'm going to do it. And even if it's only a hundred people, like this is a, this is a special I need to get out. I'm ready to put it out there. And we did, we found this beautiful old historic train station in New York. We had like 150 people outside and we shot that special and it was on HBO max. And I was able to get that done, you know?
And I think that's a very also important thing that I always want to share with so many women is you have to believe in yourself. You have to believe in yourself if anyone else is going to believe in you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And sometimes you have to be that for another person.
You have to tell someone, I believe in you when you see someone down or you see someone struggling so that you can infuse them with the self-belief that they're lacking in that moment.
Yeah.
You know, that's so good. Do you believe you're also divinely protected? And what I mean by that is, you know, in your book, which everyone needs to grab right now, I'll have what she's having because it's so good. One of the things you talk about is, you know, after the Governor Cuomo thing, when then the whole scandal broke about him. And I think it was...
your sister suggested your mom in heaven intervenes and make sure that, you know, nothing bad happens to you, that you stay on track. Do you believe that you're divinely protected by your mom, by your brother? Do you believe in God? And what's your role and faith in your life right now?
Um, I believe that there's a lot of stuff that we don't know. I do believe in magic and spirits. And I don't think that energy dies. I don't think it doesn't. It transforms. So I think when someone dies with my mother, I believe that she is around me. I feel her around me all the time. Yeah. I have this symbol between my mom and me.
When I see oranges out of place, that's my mom telling me it's okay. When I see two oranges, it's my mom and brother telling me it's okay. And I can't see them in a grocery store or in your kitchen. But if I see them, I was skiing once on my birthday. I believe it was like my 44th birthday. And I was in Whistler. I'm always there for my birthday, except for this year because my book release.
But, and I was skiing through these trees with a girlfriend of mine and there was an orange in the middle of the trees. And it was, I skied into it and it popped up. And it was like a snowy day. So there was a lot of snow. Like I wouldn't have seen it unless I skied right into it. And there was an orange and it was my birthday. And I knew right away, my mom was there. I just knew it.
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Chapter 6: How does Chelsea Handler maintain positivity and productivity?
It's the place to be, and I sure hope you'll join me there. So if you're not on the list yet, You can sign up for free at jamiekernlima.com or click the link in the show notes below. And here's to becoming unstoppable together. And now more of this incredible conversation together. Speaking of sunshine, I want to ask you, you're close friends with the Bush twins.
And I just did a Hoda and Jenna's show and Jenna's so great. So I just met her. She's so lovely. She's so sweet. I want to ask you about the time when you were popping edibles to meet former President Bush and were worried about it because you disagree so much.
Well, we were renting this house in Maine and then sissy Barbara Bush. I call them both sissy because, you know, it's just easier to call women sissies instead of trying to remember everybody's names. We're all sisters. So I they had heard that I was in this place and I was it was called Biddeford Pool where I was staying. And Kenny Bonkport was only like, I don't know, 30, 40 minutes away.
So Barbara Bush had heard that I was there. She said, she texted me and she's like, we hear you're here in Biddeford pool. We're here visiting a friend. We're going to come over. And I was like, come on over. And, and I am friends with her and her sister. I love them. And I just love sisters, you know, like I come from sisters. I love sisters. And, and, And then the first lady came over.
I didn't know she was coming. And I was like, whoa, you know, this is right after or right before the 2020 election, maybe. I don't know when it was. Around some time where Trump was around, you know, lingering. And I was like, I wanted... And George Bush hadn't come out and said anything, you know, to denounce him or... And I... And obviously, I'm a very outspoken Democrat. And I...
Ended up going. She wanted, they were having a pickleball. They wanted to have a pickleball tournament with all of our friends that were at my house and my brothers and sisters were all with me. Yeah. They wanted to have a pickleball tournament at, at Kennebunkport. And I was like, listen, I can't be seen with your father, first of all. Like our political ideologies are so vastly different.
And I don't really trust myself, quite frankly, in someone else's house. I don't want to insult your father on his own property. So like, it's better that I don't come. And she's like, oh, come on, Susie, you've been through all this therapy. Come on, you're a different person now. And I'm like, I don't know that I am. Like my outbursts are as much of a surprise to me as they are to others.
At that point in my life, I was just learning how to harness my reactivity, you know, and learning how to like be discerning about when I want to drop in my opinions that are unsolicited most often, oftentimes. And so I did, I took my, but my one sister was like, don't take this opportunity away from us. Like, you know, take one of your drugs and subdue yourself. Yeah.
So my other sister's like, take two. My brother's like, take four. Take four of your edibles. That's how many you need to just calm down. So yes, I was very stoned when I met the former president of the United States, George W. Bush, and I told him so.
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Chapter 7: What advice does Chelsea Handler have about handling rejection?
And what I wonder about, Chelsea, I'm so curious about your opinion on this, is that we're in this time where so many men have been raised to go, well, if I'm gonna be a good man, I have to protect and take care of You know, in that example, the 95% of women that raise their hand because they often feel unsafe walking down the street.
But then we're also in this time where women are stepping into their power and actually processing that Oftentimes in boardrooms, they're not even allowed to speak or their opinion isn't taken seriously. So we're at this sort of like thing where not dissimilar in a way from Me Too, where you have men then going, what do I do? What do I do? What's my value? What's my value?
And also like, am I totally damned if I do and damned if I don't? Am I not a good person if I don't try and protect this woman in whatever case, whether it's paying a parking meter or whatever it is? Or am I... Am I saying she can't handle things herself if I try to step in and help her? So I feel like it's this interesting spot. And I just wonder your thoughts on if because we're in that
you know, where so many women are realizing for the first time they're worthy of being on their own. They don't need a man to do what they want to do in life, whether it's to have a child or anything else or a career or neither or any of it. And I just wonder if part of that also you see someone who is so extreme in the other direction.
So I wonder if there's, yeah, what are your thoughts on that? Because you have this story that is so empowering, right? Where you're like, I don't need you to help to tell me I need to pay the parking meter.
And I actually don't need you for anything. You know what I mean? With regard to men, like in relationships, I've always had this dynamic, you know, like since I am so independent, since I am self-sufficient, since I am self-made, nobody, you know, I've had help along the way, but nobody's ever, no one's responsible for my success as much as I am.
Yeah.
And there are so many women like me that are doing it their way without the help of a man, without a husband, without, you know, and realizing that maybe being a mother isn't for you. And you learn at a very young age that your value comes from becoming a mother and a wife. Like, I didn't like that. No, I don't think so, you know? And so...
In relationships with me, I've always found even people who are really successful, men who are very successful, once they realize that I don't need their protection or their money or their gifts or any of that, like what I'm really looking for is like a spiritual connection. Like I want to love you up and I want to be loved up and there's nothing else I need from you.
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