The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
Wed, 26 Mar 2025
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D.!! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! Tune in to learn EVERYTHING mental health. Dr. Ramsey takes a deep dive into the importance of mental fitness, his NINE TENETS to building mental fitness, the role of nutrition in mental health, differentiating stress from mental health, stigmas around mental health medications, how to take control of mental health and so much more!! Dr. Ramsey also discusses his NEW book, "The Nine Tenets to Building Mental Fitness" DO NOT MISS THIS EPISODE!! Get a copy of Dr. Drew Ramsey's NEW BOOK, "Healing the Modern Brain"https://drewramseymd.com/books-publications/healing-the-modern-brain/Visit Dr. Drew Ramsey's Homepage Herehttps://drewramseymd.com/Follow Dr. Drew Ramsey on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/drewramseymd/?hl=en______________________________________________________________________Follow Dylan on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter and Tiktok @dylangemelliHuge thank you to everyone for the support! Please make sure to subscribe, like and comment!!Email [email protected] PURCHASE MITOPURE visit Dylan's landing page and use code DYLAN10 to save!!https://www.timeline.com/promotions/dylangemelliRSShttps://rss.com/podcasts/the-dylan-gemelli-podcastApplehttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-dylan-gemelli-podcast/id1780873400I Hearthttps://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-the-dylan-gemelli-podcast-249695201/Spotifyhttps://open.spotify.com/show/3In4QlJj4IvHqq0eduKj7mPandorahttps://www.pandora.com/podcast/the-dylan-gemelli-podcast/PC:1001096187Stitcherhttps://www.stitcher.com/show/1096187FM Playerhttps://player.fm/series/the-dylan-gemelli-podcastPodchaserhttps://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/the-dylan-gemelli-podcast-5933919Listen Noteshttps://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-dylan-gemelli-podcast-dylan-gemelli-HDjBueWOVvG
Chapter 1: What is the importance of mental fitness?
All right, everybody, welcome back to the Dylan Gemelli podcast. Now, today is a really special podcast for me because this is my first guest that will be focusing on the mental health side of things. So I cannot tell you how excited I am and how much I've been looking forward to this. So Today I have Dr. Drew Ramsey. He is a board-certified psychiatrist, psychotherapist. He's an author.
Now his work is very specific. It focuses on evidence-based integrative psychiatry, nutritional psychiatry, and also male mental health. He's founded the Brain Food Clinic. He's a digital mental health practice that he has.
And he also has a new book coming out here towards the end of March that we're going to discuss called Healing the Modern Brain, which I have had the privilege of already previewing and reading bits and pieces of. Thank you again and welcome Dr. Drew. It's great to have you, man.
Dylan, thanks so much. It's awesome to be with you. I'm so excited. Everybody listening to talk all about healing the modern brain and just what we need to be doing every day. Now we need to be doing something to take care of our mental health and build this idea, but I'm calling mental fitness, right? Just like your physical fitness, Dylan, you and I, I'm sure it could work out.
You'd have some tips. I'd have some tips. There's so many different aspects of our physical fitness, our strength, our endurance, our flexibility. The same really exists for our mental health. I call these tenets of mental fitness because a tenet is something we all know. It's something we all agree on. This isn't some secret little hack that I figured out.
This is something that you and I know is true about our mental health. And so how can we create frameworks that we're always taking care of that?
Yes, definitely. And that was certainly one of the things that I was going to get into because I am well aware of your tenets and different aspects of things you talk about. I've actually taken quite a bit of time to look into
what your beliefs are what you teach because it's very it's very intriguing to me to see different approaches and one of the reasons why i had wanted you on so much more and kind of went towards gravitated towards you was your approach and your belief system so i definitely want to convey that to the audience can we just i just want to start because you know thinking about why somebody
approached wanting to teach mental health and what drew you to that? All of us have some sort of backstory that led us into the direction we're going. So what exactly was yours?
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Chapter 2: How does nutrition influence mental health?
And I've treated a number of men in my career who have eating disorders, eating disorders, just so everybody listening, they generally in psychiatry, they fall into kind of more restrictive eating disorders where people are either over-exercising or aren't taking in enough calories and get, you know, very thin and dangerously thin.
Anorexia nervosa is actually the most lethal of all the psychiatric disorders. About 5% of people who have anorexia pass from anorexia. And then there are the more binging type and purging, more bulimic type eating disorders, as well as some not fully meeting diagnostic criteria right now, but something like what's called orthorexia, where people have a set of food rules that really
prevent them from eating a well-rounded, healthy diet. But these are all around rigid ideas around food that prevent people from taking in the healthy nutrition that they need.
So Dylan, again, just thanks for saying something because being open and honest about ourselves is something that, you know, at times we all can struggle with, especially when there's something that is challenging like an eating disorder. It reminds me of the tenet later in the book. One of the tenets is about unburdening. And Dylan, I think you just gave a really good example of that.
You're on the other side of something that for years you probably wouldn't imagine you would never tell anyone. And now it's something that, as you say, you just started talking about it. You kind of put your foot down a little bit and you said, you know, it's something that I am talking about now. And so, you know, in terms of your personal mental health evolution, having that out in front of you
And having your loved ones and people that you're eating with and your community and your friends know about that. It creates a milieu or an environment where you're really able to set a new set of mental health and mental fitness goals for yourself. You're not spending time with the secret. You're not spending time, you know, kind of figuring out how to facilitate these behaviors.
You're spending time, I would guess, when you're having challenges, talking about them with people.
It makes it a lot easier. Yeah. It's taken a long time to, I think, A, to just come to grips with it and to accept it. Because like you said, it's more of a female type of thing in terms of perception, not necessarily in action, but perception. What I found is that in it, you know, I've been in fitness and health. And so I understand the male problem with it because I've been surrounded by it.
I've coached it. I've dealt with it for 20 some odd years. So to me, it's very common in both men and women, but the normal perception for the rest. And so it does make it more difficult and challenging.
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Chapter 3: What are the tenets of mental fitness?
Chapter 4: How can we prevent mental health issues?
Well, I think one, when I see it, I point it out to people right away. Yeah. The benefits of being in therapy and is that some of what we struggle with is just on display for you and the therapist. Yeah.
and ideally right that's and so you can kind of observe it in real time and so i'll get curious on whether people you know first of all have awareness of it because a lot of times people don't um i'll note hey you know it's interesting you told me a lot of things it feels to me like you know and that you know about the situation you ended with i don't know and it really echoes this feeling you have yeah you know this is an unknowable uh
kind of situation or that you're not prepared in some way. You know, this is certainly also a symptom of clinical depression. I treat a lot of clinical depression where people really lack self-esteem, they lack confidence in their opinion.
And so I don't want to belittle this or make light of it that it's, you know, all you do is decide that, you know, and now it's all fine, but it's more of how mental fitness works, which is seeing this, right? That your language and your kind of automatic language is, contributes or degrades, contributes to the degradation of your self-esteem.
If you have a powerful voice constantly telling you that you don't know things, especially when they're things that you obviously know. Yeah. I kind of want to clean that up as much as I can for somebody so they can be more in the language of confidence. They can be more clear. Sometimes we don't know. Right. We don't know anything. That means we're not sure. That means we only know some of it.
And even that, I mean, not to sound silly, but not knowing, not being fully sure is That's a very common state for all of us and one that's really important to be clear about. It's not like a binary thing where we know nothing and we are all knowing and omnipotent, we know everything. Usually we're kind of in this mix of things we're very clear about and things we're wondering about.
So here's something I'm wondering. When you have patients that come in and they kind of do that, for instance, that I don't know, or do you find that people that are maybe struggling more with their mental health or like borderline depressive or there's clearly a problem or more like impatience, for instance, if you start...
I'm sure in your profession, you've got to dig and you've got to ask a lot of questions to get to the core roots of a lot of problems. Maybe some are easier to ascertain than others, but I'm sure that you have to ask a significant amount of questions. Do you find people that are quick to be impatient or snappy with their answers or maybe suffering a little more or having more of an issue?
How does that correlate? Because I guess from what I observe with people, I see a lot of people that are so quick to just like get angry or upset if you ask a question. And then I have to ask myself, like, why? Because questions are good and we're trying to get to the core of the problem. So what does that mean to you?
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