Dr. Drew Ramsey
Appearances
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
Dr. Drew Ramsey, welcome brother.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
For the patient set that kind of comes to you, even though every person is different, what do you see as being...
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
Part of what I'm hearing you say is also if your sleep is messed up, that might be number one for you.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
Well, we're going to be talking about that new book. It's called Healing the Modern Brain. And we have a bunch of other things that I want to get a chance to ask you about that I've just been so curious. You've been on the podcast a few times, but now to have you back, there's been so much that's happened in that space.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
Yeah. You know, I want to talk about nutrition a little bit more. What would you say if I told you let's design a diet that induces depression in somebody and also increases their risk of Alzheimer's, other neurodegenerative diseases, what would that diet look like? There is one type of sweetener that I've always felt great about using and never felt guilty about using, and that is honey.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
And the kind that I use is called Manu Kora honey. It isn't your average grocery store honey. Manu Kora is next level. It's rich, creamy, insanely delicious, and it's packed with powerful bioactives that support immunity and gut health, which is great for cold and flu season.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
Just a little teaspoon of honey in the morning coats my throat and gives me a powerful dose of antioxidants and prebiotics to help me keep my defenses super boosted. Manucora has three times more antioxidants and prebiotics than regular honey. It also contains MGO, a powerful antibacterial compound from the nectar of the manuka tree.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
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Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
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Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
Yeah, and I think that, you know, when a lot of people listen to that, they probably know a couple people in their world who are eating a diet that looks not too dissimilar from what you've described. And, you know, people today are feeling... Regardless of what side of, you know, if you're an informed person in wellness and you care about wellness, it kind of feels like a national emergency.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
It's like, whoa, our society is being set up in a way that we're kind of poisoning ourselves. And nobody's really talking about, except for a few people, nobody's really talking about like just how bad this is. Do you feel that way at all?
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
What's controversial about that?
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
Let's talk about this idea that you address in the book. And it's that idea, some people might be familiar with it, that this whole idea of a chemical imbalance is a complete myth.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
But that a chemical imbalance is the root of all depression, and once that chemical balance of a single chemical or a couple little chemicals is addressed, then the depression goes away.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
And that one thing being serotonin.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
Was there this idea that one of the ways these medications work in addition to serotonin is that they lower brain inflammation?
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
You know, you mentioned something really important. I think a lot of people are at home scratching their heads and thinking, why are so many people having such difficulties with their brain? And why are so many of these mental health disorders on the rise? You mentioned there's a whole spectrum of them. Autism, Alzheimer's, neurocognitive issues, and everything else in between.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
I think that one of the feelings that is there is that I came across this, we're writing about it on Friday, I believe. There was this review paper by Nicholas Fabiano. Do you know him? He's with the metabolic psychiatry sort of work that's there. Canadian physician. And it was basically like, here's the prescription for working out, right?
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
Like if you were going to hand a prescription to working out to a patient, And in the opening in that review paper, we'll link to it in the show notes on the podcast, it was basically talking about, and you talked about this too, is that Physical activity and getting somebody out of a sedentary lifestyle is as effective as talk therapy. Not that it's about, hey, either or.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
It's as effective as talk therapy based on all the review of the data that's out there. And it can be as effective as an SSRI for depression. It was all about... What is the relationship between physical activity and depression? And I think, again, this goes back to a larger idea, what you're saying about foods is that nobody ever told you which foods have magnesium in them.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
You might have learned that magnesium is important, but nobody ever told you how important it was. And nobody told you definitely what foods to be getting them from. So I think when people feel and have their criticisms on foods,
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
on SSRIs and there's no serotonin deficiency in the brain, partly what I'm seeing that's there and anything can be taken in the extreme is that nobody really sat down and told the patient like, hey, physical activity actually could be a first line response. And that obviously plays into this whole idea, well, doctors don't have that much time. How much are they genuinely educated in that?
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
And also patients genuinely a lot of times want a quick fix. Most of them are not going to be in a position where they're even being shown that this is a particular option that they should put a lot of weight into.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
Depression, which takes a huge toll on our economy and the lives of people. When somebody comes to you and they ask you, why are people's brains so messed up in this modern day and age? How do you answer the question?
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
I'm not familiar with this. Why? What happened?
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
So you're saying that somebody who was taking maybe an SSRI all of a sudden couldn't get that drug?
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
Is it because of this whole telehealth revolution where there's all these new startups that are basically You don't even have to see a doctor. They just fill out an intake form and then all of a sudden this person's getting it.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
It's very hard to get motivated. I, I, I know that there's, you know, so many of my family being Indian, like is in the medical field, many doctors, and even people who aren't doctors, executives in the space, other stuff. These are people who genuinely care and it's okay to criticize the system and say that through lack of awareness, things just don't get priority. Right?
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
So there's a lot of people that listen to this podcast who have shared with me that they've gone to their doctor. You're in a completely different space, but they've gone to their psychiatrist. And Things have definitely changed in the last like couple years, but most people are going to the doctor and they've heard that food has nothing to do with their depression, right?
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
That's a common thing that is regularly shared with people that's out there, right? So I don't want to let people off the hook who are even still good intentioned is that yes, you can still be a caring human being, good intention, but you actually have no clue
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
You know, you have no training, you have no clue, you have no awareness of the fact that actually, you know, people can eat, you know, French fries a few times a week and literally feel more depressed, you know, and that there is a connection that's there.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
And one of those areas that I want to talk about is actually psychedelics. Because since the last time that we had a conversation, I've actually had my own experience with psychedelics. And I want to get your thoughts on the situation and where you see the movement going. But we'll come back to that a little bit later on.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
Happens in cancer, happens in, you know. depression, so many different categories.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
Um, coming back to these core tenants, you've been in this space for a long time. You have talked about the power of food throughout many of your books on your podcasts, on social media.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
Was there anything new in the category of food that you incorporate in this book that you thought, man, this is something that people, it may not be completely new, but it's not something that people are putting as, as much attention on.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
food, supplementation, any other kind of novel component that was even for a little bit for you as you're researching the book and putting together saying, man, people might know this, but they're not giving as much attention to it.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
That's great. I love it. The social isolation piece. I think a lot of people are in this category where as you are getting older, you're also taking care of your parents and whether or not you're directly taking care of your parents or whether you are just sort of. ushering them into the right sort of direction to prioritize their health.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
One of the biggest things that I see and I tell all my friends, especially in like my men's group that I have, that's been really close and we've been meeting for about 10 years now.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
I say, you know, anything that you can do, especially if your parents are living on their own, maybe they've lost a partner, maybe they've been divorced, like try to get them out of being isolated is one of the most important things. And it's tough because as you get older and in a lot of ways, you get kind of used to things.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
Even if you don't want to be isolated, a lot of parents end up just being used to it and they don't necessarily always want to try something new that's there.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
But when you can regularly get a parent in something that, or anybody, it doesn't even have to just be a parent, when you can regularly get them into some sort of social aspect of life, it's a complete shift in how they operate and see the world.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
What do you feel is the role of psychedelics in this process of us figuring out our mental health and up-leveling our mental health and going from mental health to mental fitness?
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
I think as anything is emerging, especially something that has been suppressed for such a long time, The research has been, you know, you couldn't do research on it for a long time. Stigma around psychedelics. You couldn't even have a conversation about, you know, exploring it. Even some of the other people, early people in the last few years, right? There's been different stages of it.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
you know, them even talking about it, wanting to be able to talk about it, discuss it. You know, even Michael Pollan talks about this in his book is that people would look at him like, dude, why are you going there? We already know what we need to know about this stuff, right? It's not a good idea. So anytime that happens, you get, you get,
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
the wild wild west and the wild wild west sometimes though is needed it's not is whether it's needed or not it just ends up happening because you end up getting people that have to push the boundaries in some aspects and then you get researchers that are fighting for you know like i've had um I'm blanking on his name, the founder of Maps on the podcast.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
Rick Doblin, right? He's seen as a very controversial figure to a lot of people because he has a lot of unique and interesting thoughts that are there. And nonetheless, he's created this organization. And sometimes I see it as like you kind of have –
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
mad scientist explorers in every field, it's not unique to mental health, it's not unique to psychiatry, that kind of gets something going, and then the community ends up deciding how they want it to be handled, right? Like, hey, we need more research, we need more standardization, we need more of that.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
So what do you think is worse? Doom scrolling or microplastics for the brain?
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
But sometimes these sort of fringe characters that have crazy ideas, sometimes it takes somebody a little bit out there, when I say crazy ideas, I know that's a very sort of loaded word.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
I mean, different than what people who are more established in the space, because I think sometimes people who are more established would say they wouldn't even have even thought to go down that route of looking into MDMA or ketamine or other things. Sometimes you need a little bit of a pioneer, even if that pioneer is not everybody's cup of tea.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
And then, you know, it's up to the community to decide, like, how do we want to handle this? Right. How do we want to create better ways of not stigmatizing anything or actually what's the most safest way to do this? Or how do we get the government to support research? So that's just my defense of the person who's a little bit of the Wild Wild West cowboy character. Yeah.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
I mean, it's just you look through history. We've always had people like that to kind of get something going when something has been, you know, a field that people don't want to touch for a long time.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
Oh, man. I had a friend from England who was, like, really wanting to do... You know, she was coming to a trip to Los Angeles. And this friend, she had had a lot of, you know, trauma in her life. She lost...
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
Her mom through a battle of cancer and it in particular really weighed on her because she was an alternative health care licensed, but alternative health care practitioner in England and felt like, how could this happen to my mom? And.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
You know, she really tried very hard to bring her to a lot of these more experimental treatments in Germany, you know, these medical centers that were there, and just really felt bummed about the whole situation that not just her mom passing, but just the fact that on top of that, the idea that, like, she was really...
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
the daughter, but also kind of like trying to be the mom's advocate for health, right? Anybody can imagine that that's like devastating enough to lose your mom, but then partly you feeling like, hey, I was responsible. If I knew better, I would have figured something out, right? That's just her thought. Whether that's true or not is a different situation.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
And she said, you know, I'm coming out to LA, you know, I really want to this. And it had been years since her mom passed away. And there was a few other things that were there. I really want to have, uh, like a psychedelic experience. And this was in like 2012. Yeah. And me, I've never, I didn't even grow up really drinking. Right. I didn't like the taste of alcohol, all this stuff.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
My, I never smoked weed. I just, I didn't have anything against it, but it was like, Hey, this isn't for me. And I don't feel like drawn to these things. Just like seem like, like unhealthy behaviors to you. I don't even know if I thought alcohol was unhealthy. I just thought like, I don't get it. Right. And, and maybe, yeah, I didn't, I didn't feel like I really, I really got it. Um,
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
so anyways, long story short, you know, I messaged a friend and said, Hey, listen, you know, she's, she's interested. Like, I don't know, like maybe let's try to create a little bit of like, uh, an intentional setting at our, at our place. And, you know, if, if some people want to have some, you know, magic mushrooms and, you know, have that. And, uh, again, this is just
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
know no understanding like i've had some really incredible people on this podcast uh that are like researchers in the space but this is just like oh we're just all friends you know doing some mushrooms right and man she had such a bad trip and since that time period you know she's never been the same and this is an extreme situation i think there's some other factors that play into it
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
Let's start off with some of the basics and the key concepts that you talk about in this book. And... I feel like some of those key concepts around the big lies that many of us have been taught when it comes to how to heal the brain and how to heal the body.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
This is an individual that probably was abusing marijuana. And I'm like very nervous about especially the abuse of marijuana these days. I've had multiple people in my life who seem to have, you know, weed induced schizophrenia.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
Yeah, so kind of a few different layers that were there. Obviously, she had a multitude of things going on. I've had plenty of people, you know, that have had
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
psychedelic experiences myself included i've shared on the podcast but two years ago i took my parents to a guided um psilocybin journey that was in maui with a group that had you know regularly does this where everybody had support there's a protocol heavy focus on integration the whole thing's like really done well recommended by a multitude of people and it wasn't for anything that was
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
wrong it was to have that journey and experience together and what was it like with how old were your folks when they did this my my my dad just had turned 70 and they're and they're both sorry my my dad had just turned 74 and my mom was just about to turn 70. okay and they had never done anything like this i mean you've never they don't even drink alcohol yeah i've taken psilocybin one time previously prior to that but nothing like it was more like a very small dose what was their intrigue with it
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
Their intrigue is they've heard... Man, I didn't take my nootropics this morning, so I'm blanking on a bunch. The gentleman from Johns Hopkins who passed away.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
Roland Griffiths. I've had him on the podcast, and I've had a few other people on the podcast. I had him on the podcast before he passed away. He was at the Functional Medicine Conference a few years ago. Got a chance to sit with him and interview him. And my parents listened to this podcast, and they thought... wow, this is something interesting.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
And at that time too, I believe it was Michael Pollan's Netflix documentary had just come out. And I was sharing that I was interested in having the experience and for a multitude of reasons. And they said, you know what, if you do it and you find a place that is recommended, we would love to do that.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
as well so there was a curiosity that was there and i would say that the real driver is one of the main things that roland griffith's research showed i mean he's done a bunch of it was in their national survey on psychedelic uh people who've had a psychedelic experience Um, he showed that, um, you know, I think it was like seven, five to 7% of them had had a bad trip.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
And most of those was in a setting that was not a safe setting was a party setting. It was combined with alcohol, all the things like that. But for the people that had a good trip, One of the biggest takeaways was people said it was the most mystical experience of their life. And my parents are very into their Hindu tradition, which is a tradition of not just religion, but mysticism.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
And I think that idea drew them in of like, wow, if people are saying that this is the most mystical experience of their life, what would that experience look like for them? What would come to them? So we all went to Hawaii. A couple of my friends, my wife came as well, my parents.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
And first of all, everybody's saying, oh my God, the fact that your parents are doing this, like that's, that's like wild. Like our parents would never do it.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
And I think that's, I don't even know if that's what I'm saying. I think that there's different tools for different toolboxes. So one thing is shout out to the group that was there, that was doing it. They screen everybody for, look, if you've got something major going on in your life or you're dealing with depression, there's other people that are there that might be there for you, right?
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
This, this is not the experience that's there for you. You know, it wasn't,
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
It was people that had a lot of clinical experience, but they're not in your boat where they're like their main thing is to be working with somebody who's depressed or dealing with some severe PTSD, although they did have a lot of experience working with veterans that were there with a different, you know, combining with a different group that they had support with.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
and so our thing was like it was more the thing with my parents my brother-in-law was there my my wife was there it was more of uh hey we're all good like we have good mental nobody's working through something right now and it's more that this is a mystical experience we want to have together right but Um, I don't think that that's the right fit for a lot of people.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
And I think that there's a lot. And the crazy thing was, is that here, especially in Los Angeles, I'm always amazed when I go to like events or a dinner party and somebody is like, oh yeah, you're, you know, we're going to do, you know, just some like major dose of, um, uh, ayahuasca or psilocybin or something just like off the cuff this weekend. And they did it a few weekends before.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
And I'm just like, man, after I had that experience, I didn't have the draw to even want it. I felt like good for a while.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
I felt great. And I think that that goes back to this. There's a lot of maybe escapism or other stuff or reliance. I'm not going to have any judgments on anything, but I am excited about the fact that one thing that seems even as controversial as an individual as you might be to some people and a lot of people on my podcast. You know, they listen from all walks of the political aisle.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
So people don't even like me mentioning this sometimes, but I'm still going to mention it. I think one of the things about having Secretary Bobby Kennedy in is it does seem on the roadmap, there is some hint to opening up more traditional research dollars to this whole area of therapeutic usage of the spectrum of psychedelics that might be there.
Dhru Purohit Show
How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
And I think that that's one thing that I am actually really excited about because I think we need more places like where I can tell a friend who's dealing with depression,
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How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
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For some things, right?
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The efficacy for that for people that have been dealing with post-traumatic stress is much higher than a lot of the options that are out there.
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I want to come back to the microplastics conversation because it's a hot topic right now, right? So many people are becoming more aware of it. Any other couple of things that you do to protect your body and brain from microplastic exposure? So you already talked about one. That's a no brainer. Don't microwave in plastic. Don't put foods that have been heated in plastic, right?
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Yeah. Well, we do have a long history. Previous heads of HHS been lawyers and other stuff and things like that. We'll leave that.
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So here's where I would push back just a little bit on that, right? Just because it's a podcast, we can do that. We can have this great conversation.
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I think where you have the other side of it is that you have people that are like the head of the FDA and then it's like, They're regulating things that are directly related to pharmaceuticals. And you have this revolving door where you have somebody then is a physician and sometimes not a physician and then goes and leaves and then goes and works for Pfizer, right? Or goes and works for Merck.
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We've seen that many times over. So I see it as like, let's judge each individual person as a person. I don't see any history that physicians themselves... Physicians are human beings, right? I don't see any history of...
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there's something that would make a physician more so wanting to keep that perspective i think when you have any kind of influence that can kind of cloud the waters and corruption can kind of come in regardless of where people are coming from you know you'll see that corruption come in and i don't think physicians are immune and i don't think physicians can be you know are uniquely immune from that i think they're just human beings just like everybody else
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uh who need help and don't know where to find a couples therapist a therapist a psychiatrist don't know even the next step to take care of their mental health and so i i do hope we end up with something much better than what we have yeah well i'm team human and i've seen uh you know anytime humanity deals with these various versions of crises especially here in america like i you know i feel like we'll figure it out we'll figure it out together
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and it's we can't you know going back to something you mentioned earlier you mentioned that you're really focused on what the individual can do right like the food system might be corrupt there might be big companies that are pursuing profits politics can swing this way or that way but at the end of the day what are the things the core tenants that people who are listening can do and i think that a hundred percent that is first and fundamental because if we're not an example in our own life
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if we're not sleeping better if we're not eating better if we're not then you know trying to help the people that are around us it's like All change really starts from there. So let's bring it back to the book. I love that tangent that we went on, and thank you for talking about psychedelics and everything else.
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How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
Yeah. Well said. Let's come back to the book. Especially right now. Who should be reading this book?
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How Inflammation, Microplastics, and Poor Nutrition Sabotage Our Brains and Make Us Depressed with Dr. Drew Ramsey
We actually have a retreat this weekend. We leave tomorrow.
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Yeah, absolutely. Talk a little bit about your world. You have a podcast that you launched since the last time that we talked.
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I love it. Well, the book is depending on the day that we air, it'll either be pre-order or order.
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I hope we'll do both. Well, depending on the day that the podcast comes out, you know, so you can either get it right now or you can pre-order it. Healing the Modern Brain. We have the link in the show notes below. Dr. Ramsey, thanks for coming back on the podcast. It's so much more fun to do in person.
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Thank you, brother. Appreciate it. Anytime.
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Yeah, that's great. And I think we didn't cover the basics, but a good water filter at home, right? Good reverse osmosis water filter. If you can get it, there's a bunch of great brands that are out there. And then also something interestingly that I've been seeing is that a lot of microplastics spread through the air.
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And so if you get new furniture, if you get nylon rugs or other things, you know, if you can splurge a little bit and get a good quality air filter, that's super helpful there.
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If you had to rank some of these tenants that you talk about, and even the sub-tenants underneath them, if you had to rank food, environmental toxins, sleep, and a sedentary lifestyle, let's just start with those four. Okay. Right? So food, environmental toxins, environmental exposure, sleep, and sedentary lifestyle.
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Yeah, that's the whole point. Mental fitness are the things that we do to build our mental health. And I formally define it as it's the knowledge, patterns, habits, and skills that culminate in a more enjoyable, more mentally sound life.
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and these include just in broad strokes here these include things like what like diet like sleep like i mean just like what are the the big buckets here yeah so there's some of the the classics of lifestyle medicine that you know everybody knows they need to do a little better job on probably whether it's in uh nutrition or sleep hygiene or maybe moving our bodies more
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So it's some of those ideas. I try to put those ideas in a new context for people, which is how it specifically relates to brain health and mental health and these new parts of mental health that people aren't really paying attention to that maybe we'll get into a little bit. The idea that our brain grows, that's a different motivation for sleep time.
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But along with these classic tenets of lifestyle medicine, sleeping better, eating better, moving our bodies better, i saw that some things were changing for my patients around a certain set of issues that when they invest time in you know let's say making better human connections or building more self-awareness or living a life with more purpose
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it just did transformative things for their mental health. And so it seemed that investing in these, if there was a bench press for mental health, like what would it be? I feel like these tenants help answer some of that, that we have a set of activities and a framework where we can, whether we have a mental health diagnosis or not, whether we can be making our mental fitness stronger.
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That's really easy. Mike, you have a hobby?
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That's great. Your risk of depression just went down by 30%. Have you eaten seafood in the past two to four weeks? Leafy greens and nutrient-dense stuff? Yeah. Yeah, your risk of depression probably just went down by another 30% or so. Do you have a life that you're living with a sense of purpose?
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Okay, well, you just have, according to the data, a bunch of factors related to both your biology, your brain health, and your risk of mental health illnesses, all of which look a lot better to me as a psychiatrist because of your answers to those questions. Not everybody's in as fortunate a position as Mike of having a great sense of purpose.
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And I think particularly when you've had some mental health struggles or when you're having mental health symptoms, which we know more than ever people are, those types of things can be a little bit elusive. And so these are some of the core tenants that I really want people to think about and focus on beyond, again, some of these standard, really important pieces.
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We also want people working on and thinking about things like living a life with purpose, having hobbies and being engaged in those hobbies, because these are really protective for our mental health.
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Oh boy, I'm so glad you put it that way because it blows me away that more people don't know about the connection. You know, it feels like so often folks know misinformation about food or fear mongering or, you know, something they're trying to avoid, but they haven't heard something like, wow,
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If you have clinical depression and you're in treatment and you're not getting all the way better and you start eating a Mediterranean-style diet, which means more nuts, more whole grains, more lentils and beans, more seafood, you know, tasty diet, about 32% of people in that situation will go into full remission from their depression. So that was a randomized trial called the SMILES trial.
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And there have been a number of these trials that connect our food to our mental health. So there are a lot of mechanisms by which this work. Number one is how our dietary pattern, the foods that we eat, affect the growth and repair mechanisms of our brain.
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this is called neuroplasticity and it's really cool cutting-edge neuroscience and it has to be how we start thinking about the care of our brains and our minds we want to think about our brain our mind not again this is like broken thing right struggling with our all these symptoms but is this dynamic organ that is growing and repairing itself.
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And we have with our activities, with our choices, we have a say in how well some of that goes. The other way is just people are missing a bunch of nutrients that are super important for mental health. A lot of Americans in particular like to kind of go on a, I don't know, supplement frenzy, but they're missing some things that really food is a much better source.
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Stuff like fiber, phytonutrients, which are all these cool molecules found in plants. I'd even argue just a lot of people are eating a diet according to the data, most recent research on the American diet, they're just missing a lot of nutrients like vitamin E or magnesium. And what I find really fascinating is a lot of us, a lot of eaters,
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don't know where to find the most important nutrients for our brain like if i started quizzing you mike on your top folate source vitamin b9 or we're like when i need a little b12 that's my go-to meal most of us don't have one and i think that's a huge red flag i mean if you're listening and you don't have a sense of some of these nutrients it's a huge opportunity
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in terms of a place whereby learning more, going beyond this idea that a multivitamin gives us an insurance policy, and just learning a little more around how to nourish our mental health. What I find is a lot of people know and like some of the top brain foods, whether it's wild salmon or pesto or white beans or sauteed greens with garlic.
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I mean, there's a lot of delicious stuff for your mental health. And then lastly, Mike, sorry to keep going on, but the microbiome, which is all of the organisms that live in our gut, what you eat directly affects the type of organisms that are living there.
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And if you just think about it in simple terms, having a diversity, certain sort of markers in your microbiome, that is really good for your health overall.
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It depends where you are for certain people. For sure, there'll be a profound change. If you really embrace this idea and you get off of a diet of highly processed foods, if you, with that, start probably eating more plants, better quality protein, losing weight, I mean, you're on the path to transformative health changes. I think that we do probably need to be serious.
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Everyone's kind of hedging like, oh, how much? It's like we do need to be realistic about where the health of this country is and why we're having such a problem. We don't need a lot of new research. I mean, it's not a mystery of what's going on, that as a populace, we really struggle with a lot of excess caloric consumption, a lot of excess alcohol consumption.
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A lot of people are still struggling with smoking. So we've got some massive health problems on our hand. I'm very convinced that food is medicine and that controlling what you eat is an essential step that I hope everybody listening feels very empowered to do. None of my food recommendations are onerous or boring. I believe, I grew up on a farm.
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I've grown a lot of food along with being a physician. And I think food should be simple. I think it should be delicious. I think it should be really affordable. Thank you.
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These are some of the core tenets that I really want people to focus on, say, making better human connections, or building more self-awareness, living a life with more purpose. If there is a bench press for mental health, these tenets help answer some of that.
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And there's nothing worse than struggling with your mental health when you feel there aren't answers, you know, nobody's figured this out. So I really wanted people to see both the research, but also I'm glad the tone comes across because when I meet people and they're struggling with mental health and I don't sit there thinking like, wow, what are we going to do?
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Usually there are a number of really clear steps. One of the tenants, the first one is self-awareness. And I talk about this thing. Everybody listening can see this in their own life. It's fascinating to me. I'll sit with a patient and they'll tell me, tell me the whole thing. Really great detail about what's going on, what the problem is.
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A lot of times, like what the solutions and next steps are. And then they'll look me right in the eye and they'll say, I don't know. Kidding me? Is it like a most beautiful illustration of what you know, what to do? I'm kind of almost bearing witness of the solution in progress. Right. And it really, in the book, I talk about this called disavowal.
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where we really lose our sense of agency, our sense of knowing things. And so I ask people to look for this tick when you find yourself kind of rattling off of these things, and then you say, I don't know, I don't know. And if you switch that with like, I'm really clear about, or I really know that,
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And repeat some of the things you've just said, because the idea is in a very kind of micro acute way to get more confidence in your ability and in your perspective on the challenges in front of you. Yeah.
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This is something that you and I know is true about our mental health. And so how can we create frameworks that we're always taking care of that?
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Well, I think one, when I see it, I point it out to people right away. Yeah. The benefits of being in therapy and is that some of what we struggle with is just on display for you and the therapist. Yeah.
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and ideally right that's and so you can kind of observe it in real time and so i'll get curious on whether people you know first of all have awareness of it because a lot of times people don't um i'll note hey you know it's interesting you told me a lot of things it feels to me like you know and that you know about the situation you ended with i don't know and it really echoes this feeling you have yeah you know this is an unknowable uh
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kind of situation or that you're not prepared in some way. You know, this is certainly also a symptom of clinical depression. I treat a lot of clinical depression where people really lack self-esteem, they lack confidence in their opinion.
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And so I don't want to belittle this or make light of it that it's, you know, all you do is decide that, you know, and now it's all fine, but it's more of how mental fitness works, which is seeing this, right? That your language and your kind of automatic language is, contributes or degrades, contributes to the degradation of your self-esteem.
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If you have a powerful voice constantly telling you that you don't know things, especially when they're things that you obviously know. Yeah. I kind of want to clean that up as much as I can for somebody so they can be more in the language of confidence. They can be more clear. Sometimes we don't know. Right. We don't know anything. That means we're not sure. That means we only know some of it.
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And even that, I mean, not to sound silly, but not knowing, not being fully sure is That's a very common state for all of us and one that's really important to be clear about. It's not like a binary thing where we know nothing and we are all knowing and omnipotent, we know everything. Usually we're kind of in this mix of things we're very clear about and things we're wondering about.
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We call that being defensive or defensiveness, I feel. And so psychological defenses usually, almost always, are because there's something that we're insecure about. The question bothers us. If we're really secure and you ask me about something, I answer. If there's something I disagree with. But if we're struggling, if we're insecure, if we're not sure, sometimes those questions...
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uh you know kind of hit a nerve and and so i this is really in some ways central to this tenet of self-awareness if you find yourself we sometimes call it being activated or being triggered or having a powerful emotional response to someone's questions. I love these moments because they tell you something. They tell you something more is going on.
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There's something going on underneath the surface. For example, you're at work and you keep getting into it with women who are a little bit older than you are. Just kind of... Boy, you know, I'd want to really quickly start to understand more about your dynamics with women, more about the women in your life and how they've helped you out and how they've let you down, right?
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There's a pattern going on here that's going to undermine your professional success. Now, it's probably something very personal and sensitive. And if I came to you and said like, hey, I think you've got issues with women at the workplace, you'd probably get a little defensive and you'd probably employ what happens a lot where people start externalizing. Well, you know best, she's really tough.
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Well, you know, I think about defensiveness and being triggered as those are symptoms, right? That's a symptom of something. It's a signal in some ways, more than a symptom. It's a signal that something is going on underneath the surface. It deserves your attention. And you're going to be motivated and driven by that. Let's say insecurity. Right. What do you want to be?
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
Everybody listening, I'm going to be clear with you all. The reason I wrote this book is I think you have some mental health struggles. And I think a lot of them are maybe subtle and they don't get talked about. And you might never meet criteria for depression or anxiety, but I think your mind and your mental health are worth the effort and they're worth your attention.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
So I appreciate what Dylan is kind of illustrating. And I hear this a lot from patients. You know what? Is it a problem? Is my drinking a problem? It's like only two beers a night. And so how we kind of draw that line, hey, you've got a diagnosis. You meet five out of nine criteria for depression. In some ways, I appreciate that model. I work in that model.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
But if you have three out of nine symptoms of depression, I want to talk about them. I want to hear what's going on. If those three symptoms are irritable, you're hopeless, and you're not sleeping at all, I think you're going to have a few more criteria pretty soon. And so as a psychiatrist, when I sit with individuals, I'm thinking about a few kind of arenas.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
I'm looking for people's mood, their mood stability, their mood resilience, the range of their mood. Are they feeling good? Are they feeling bad? Are they appropriately maybe sad or tearful as they're telling me about a trauma? Are they excited and full of good feeling as they're telling me about work promotion or their kids?
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
So you're paying attention to someone's kind of feeling and mood state and how they describe it. We pay a lot of attention in psychiatry to someone's thought process, whether it's goal-directed, whether people are distracted, whether folks are overly inclusive or go off on tangents a lot or just are a little disorganized in their thought process.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
We pay a lot of attention to what people are saying, the kind of thought content in terms of whether people are focused on, say, negative things or really fixated on their worries. Then we're also paying attention to things like insight, like how much awareness do you have about the problems
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Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
If you come in and you're describing a problem and really don't seem to have some insight into your own maybe role in it. We think a lot about people's judgment and the decisions they make.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
So those are kind of some of the parts of what we call the mental status exam, where I'm sitting with an individual and I'm thinking about really how they're presenting, what they seem like, how they're thinking, and really trying to do this in a way that doesn't seem in any way like you're judging or scrutinizing anyone. We really... want to be in a collaborative conversation.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
To get to the meat of your question though, when do I get worried or when am I concerned? I get concerned about functioning when people begin to, their symptoms of depression or anxiety or other mental health concerns interrupt their ability to engage in productive work, whatever that is, whether they're an artist or an energy healer or a massage therapist or a doctor.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
And then when things interfere with relational functioning, which is quite common that when we have a lot of, mostly focus on anxiety disorders and mood disorders, but when people are struggling with a lot of symptoms of anxiety or panic disorder, or they're struggling with a lot of symptoms of depression, of course it makes it harder and more challenging to engage in work, engage in relationships, feel your best self.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
And so those are some of the kind of in some ways criteria. Depressive disorders are usually around kind of symptoms that have to do with mood and how you're feeling, how hopeful and positive you are. But also there are a lot of symptoms of depression people don't know about.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
Like depression often, clinical depression affects appetite, affects sleep, causes us to gain weight or lose weight, can involve scary symptoms like suicidal thoughts. Whereas usually anxiety disorders are much more around kind of worry, catastrophic worries, panic attacks, specific phobias, things like that.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
Well, I think it's right what you say, that everyone has a backstory. And so I've always been very interested in our stories and how they influence our health, the stories of who we are and where we came from, the stories of how our minds work, what we tell ourselves, our belief systems.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
I think about mental health as kind of a state that you have and are working towards improving. I think almost all of us with our mental health, even if it's okay, we're often working on some aspect of it. Because so many different aspects of life and different phases of life challenge our mental health.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
If you're middle-aged like me and you're kind of in that caring for elderly parents, caring for kids, the mental health challenges are different than when I was a medical student. And the challenge there is studying and getting enough sleep and just keeping your nutrition up and trying to see your friends.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
So stress, and one of the reasons that I hope Healing the Modern Brain is a really helpful resource to people, stress is just going up. And whether it's the stress of you realize you just have been on the potty for an hour doom scrolling, or whether it's the stress of all of the news that you're sharing in disasters and events happening all over the world in real time.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
Those are the stressors I think about as the waves that are crashing on the shore of our mental health.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
that stress is always coming and a measure of your mental health is how you deal with those stressors you know when you are struggling with anxiety depression or other mental health disorders stressors get overwhelming really quickly because you're just working on keeping your head above water feeling good getting through the day
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
I talk about in the book a couple of my patients who... I kind of meet them or sort of walk into a clinical scenario where someone's sleep starts to deteriorate because they start working nights. Right. And how that, you know, that's a stressor in some way, right? It's a shift. But over time, if it's not managed properly, this person is inevitably going to have mental health concerns.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
I think everybody varies. I mean, it's one of these, you know, we know people who are really, let's call them stoic, and they don't seem to be bothered by stress. And then, you know, lo and behold, we learn that You know, they are really struggling. We see people who are just great at this. They just, you know, thrive on stress, people will say.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
But it's something that everyone agrees when it comes to your mental health. Learning better coping skills, as we call it, to deal with stress and learning some of the techniques in healing the modern brain, which, you know, are really designed around the management of stress.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
So I got really interested in mental health because I've always felt it's the most important aspect of health, especially when we look at the data. We look at what causes disability in America. So often when it comes to health, we focus on cancer and heart disease and diabetes, and these are important, but these are things that kill us.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
If you're sleeping better, moving your body, if you're unburdening your traumas in appropriate ways, if you're building more connections with people, these are all these fundamental tenants that inevitably help you managing stress.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
Well, I don't know how frequent it is. I think that there is a lot of value culturally that's been placed on being more stoic, especially for men. Yeah. I got to interview Jimmy Butler, the basketball star. And we were talking about vulnerability and everybody, all the guys were talking about, oh, vulnerability is so great. Vulnerability is so great.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
And he was like, you know, vulnerability is really dangerous if you don't do it right. Right. You can't just go and share everything with everybody. And so I think stoicism, if stoicism is our selective ability to express our emotions, as long as you get to the expression part, what I think about stoics in general that isn't really particularly interesting is when there's a denial of emotion.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
If you're weathering it thoughtfully, carefully, you're journaling about it, and you don't express a lot of feeling or you're a little more reserved, kind of classic stoicism, okay. But I think a lot of times people aren't expressing emotion, as you say, because there's stuff going on. Usually, and especially for men, it's because the experience of sharing emotions has gone crappy.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
A lot of patients use this phrase to say, why would I give someone a stick to hit me with? Right. And that's their experience of sharing emotions, right? When you ask them how they're doing, how they're feeling, what's going on, and they get up the courage to tell someone.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
A lot of men have a kind of trauma of either not using the right words or having things misinterpreted, but not having that feeling of like, wow, I was vulnerable and I shared and now I feel better known and safe. And so I think that's where, you know, these kind of stoic attitudes of not sharing emotion over time. No one...
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
What actually makes our life more difficult, what is the biggest drag on our economy, what really I would argue is the biggest danger to you and a kind of healthy, vibrant life are mental health concerns. And we know mental health concerns are challenging for a variety of ways. One is there's a lot of stigma. If you're struggling with your mental health, it's hard to get help.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
I would say that Stoics wouldn't want to be exactly categorized that way. I think the modern Stoics really think about a deep thinking state and a state of control over your emotions and understanding your emotions. But that kind of classic, not sharing your feelings, not expressing emotion, I tend to think that's not so good for you because it shuts down the quality of your connections.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
Now, certainly there's situations we're all in where we want to be a little bit more stoic. Yeah, I'm in a clinical scenario a lot. And so, you know, it's very important that if I'm struggling in some way that that's not a prominent piece of the session, right?
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
So that type of functional stoicism where you're going to weather the storm, I think it's one of those skills we really want people to build. I think that stoicism, that more cliche where people aren't expressing emotions, aren't feeling emotions, I don't think that's healthy for you in any way, but I'm a feelings doctor, so I'm a little biased, right?
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Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
So, um, Well, Dylan, it means so much coming from you. And I really appreciate you talking about your own mental health in this way. I think for all of your listeners and everybody listening, you know, we just know it's true. It's a hard thing to do to find that space, find that language in some ways, like find the confidence that Dylan has to not live in the dark with this.
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And I think you're exactly right, Dylan. There are people listening, there are men listening who've never thought that eating disorders were something that happened to men. And you've just opened the idea. Maybe it's just a Google search tonight. Maybe they just talk to another friend. Maybe they start making some changes. Maybe they book an appointment with someone. Yeah.
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Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
Two, there's a lot of controversy on what's actually a mental health problem. So I got really interested in this probably because of my own family's history. As so many people get interested in mental health, we got a lot. And so I wanted to understand everything I could about that.
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Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
I want to take care of this privately. I've never, ever talked to a mental health specialist. I think I have an eating disorder. I love those sessions, by the way. Anybody out there who's scared of seeing a mental health professional, I got to tell you, you know, We're a lot different than we've ever been. The mental health clinician population, it's just there are more of us than ever before.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
I know it can be hard to find the right fit. That's really the most important thing that you're looking for in a treatment is somebody that you vibe with. Training is really important too, but that vibe, somebody you can be accountable for and trust and talk to openly is And so, you know, owning what you've got and being clear about it, and that's really at the heart of self-empowerment.
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Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
And the more that we can stand up and be clear, as you say, you know, none of us are perfect. I think we've all learned that lesson over and over again. We see all these people we idealize and look up to, and then we see, oh, they struggle, right? Whether they're wealthier or more famous, and yeah, they still have struggles. It's something kind of universal for us as humans.
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Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
Not that we all have mental health problems, but it's a wonderful gift having this human mind. It's also a bit of a burden. And so the hope of healing the modern brain is to give people some frameworks, some areas or arenas to work on.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
And to not only do that in the stance of, hey, this is a treatment for depression or anxiety or mental health problems, but that these are absolutely essential in the modern world.
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Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
if you don't take more proactive steps to care for your mental health and build your mental fitness, you know, there is more coming for it than ever before, whether it's the devices and the phone, or whether it's the way that just socializing is a little harder. I have so many people who tell me, you know, I just, I never really recovered from the pandemic. I got isolated. I got Netflix.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
I got on the couch and I'm just not as social. I feel that in my own life sometimes. I used to love to throw a dinner party. Well, you know, I've done a few of those, but not as many as before the pandemic. And so that real necessity these days, right? Nutrition's a great one. 80%, 70, 80% of the calories that most people eat are ultra-processed foods.
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Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
Ultra-processed foods and a dietary pattern that revolves around modern food increases your risk of clinical depression and clinical anxiety. Period. Right. You can debate on how much, but it's just the data seems pretty clear in that. So it's just that kind of idea, right? If you don't do anything active, you're going to end up eating most of your calories from ultra processed foods. Right.
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So it's very exciting when it's like, hey, actually, in one of the studies, the SMILES trial, they took people with clinical depression and who were in treatment. and put them on a Mediterranean style diet, 32.3% of them went into full remission from their depression. And on top of this, they saved about $140 a week.
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I also just got really intrigued by the notion of being a physician, being a healer, and that I had the equipment that I needed, I just had to train it. So learning to train my mind to help other people with their minds was really a very exciting idea to me.
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So, you know, you have this, this kind of really cool data now, you know, similar data comes up with a depression and exercise, right? When you look, you compare the antidepressant Zoloft to exercise. Now I'm not talking like, Oh, a little bit like regular, you know, uh, several times a week, vigorous exercise, you find that they're about equal. What I love about these studies is like, great.
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You know, Zoloft and exercise go really well together. So there are lots of interventions, whether it's our food, our movement. Sorry to keep going on and on about this, but it just gets me excited. This notion of like, you know what, what do we know the modern world does?
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Makes us more isolated, makes us stuck on our screens, makes us not have the type of depth and intensity that we have in our relationships. And you can do something about that. You can do something about that today, right? It can be as simple as, I do this all the time, especially as I'm busy, where I have a little math of the people I'm really wanting to deepen things with.
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And I'm making sure, I tell those patients all the time, I'm putting points on the board. Points on the board, it can be a text, it can be a call, ideally, or a video call I like a lot more so I can kind of see my friends and my family. You know, simple stuff. nobody's really keeping track, but if you don't do it, you feel it.
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You see it in your life, your connections, the quality of them, the intensity of them, it dissipates. And that then begins to create risks for us when it comes to our mental health.
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incorporating my teachings now you know and i'm it's it's amazing to this one of those cool things i mean hey i think a lot of people listening probably too where we don't quite put it together like we all know when we eat better we feel better but we don't explicitly put mental health risk right and our risk of disorders like depression in uh you know in with our nutrition we don't look at our plate and think okay this food is feeding my mental health or my brain or not
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Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
Sometimes we joke, right? We'll look at the cake or the ice cream or the soda or the beers and be like, oh, mental health meal here. But I feel like it's something that we all intuitively know.
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But that thing you said has always intrigued me, where even educated folks like yourself, they don't correlate mental health risk and nutrition, even though your brain is the most metabolically active organ you have, your nerve cells, your neurons, your brain cells. They consume more of your food than any other cells. It's about a fifth of everything you eat. It's a fifth of all your calories.
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And then I'd been in a lot of psychotherapy in medical school and in college, and I found that to be a really engaging conversation really helpful.
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It's just three pounds. And so it's this really like huge opportunity for us to expand really. I mean, the book, we didn't get into this too much, but the book really asked people in the very beginning, Hey, The way you're thinking about anxiety, depression, and mental health, I think is probably wrong.
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I think you're probably thinking about it as like serotonin and meds, and there's so much to our mental health. We need to up-level your knowledge. I ask people to really look at these tenants and their mental health through these three new lenses. One is neuroplasticity. It's a fancy word that means your brain continues to grow in adult life.
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So stuff you do, choices you make, as I say, mental fitness, right? The skills, the patterns, the knowledge, the right choices there actually creates more brain growth and more brain repair. It's via this molecule, usually BDNF, brain-derived neurotrophic factor. We know that goes up when you exercise. It goes up when you eat a Mediterranean diet. It goes up when you take antidepressants.
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It goes up when you're in psychotherapy. It goes up when you have more connections. What hurts brain growth? Isolation. So all these ways that, again, looking through our mental health through the lens of brain growth and brain repair, that's one lens. The next is inflammation. Big word that's thrown around all the time now in relation to all kinds of health concerns.
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Inflammation is when our body's alarm systems just get a little bit out of whack. You're just setting yourself up where, sort of joke, I say it's like going into school and you're going to take a big test and the fire alarm goes off. You're just not going to do as well on the, you'll probably finish it, but you're not going to do as well because you're so distracted by all this excess alarm.
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And then the sprinklers go off. How do you feel in the bubbles? So that's the example of inflammation. We just know a lot of people are leading their lives where they're, you know, Being overweight causes an extra inflammation. Being socially isolated causes extra inflammation. Eating a low-fiber, high-sugar diet leads to more inflammation. So not sleeping well leads to inflammation.
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So inflammation and the regulation of inflammation is something that's a big focus of the book. And then the last is the microbiome. It's this... kind of wild to think that our mental health and our brain health are involved with and even dictated by some of the organisms that live in our gut. But that's what microbiome is. It's all the organisms that live in our gut.
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Boy, there's so much complexity here, but the advice is pretty simple. Eat more plants, eat more fermented foods. But it's very exciting to meet folks when they have not heard about fermented foods. They've not thought about the microbiome just again, as an intervention to, and is something potentially that might help out.
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So I've been in that kind of integrative space for a long time, and I came into this really wanting to make sure that all of the things that we know help mental health, whether it's meditation or yoga or having a spiritual life, get included. What I found is that there's a real bias against any type of psychiatric medication to the point that it's almost impossible for someone to take one.
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And I'd ask everyone listening to name in the history of humans something that has been less expensive and more effective than SSRI antidepressants for public mental health. You won't find anything. You won't find anything that helps 50 to 60% of people with clinical depression and anxiety. How do we know this? Well, I tend to trust women over 50. I just do. I feel like they've seen a lot.
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They know a lot. Why do I say women? Well, I just think the women in our society in general, I call them the matriarchs. They are just paying better attention than the men a lot of times. I guess that's maybe a controversial statement, but I'm just going to say it. I don't disagree. What percentage of women over the age of 50 are taking an SSRI antidepressant in America? It's one in four.
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People hear that and they freak out. And I just think that's misogyny right at its core. What if we just trusted two things, really? Trusted, one, that women are suffering maybe more of a mental health burden for some very specific reasons of how we treat them. And two, that they take them because they work. Do they work perfectly? I don't think they work perfectly, no. Do they have side effects?
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Yeah, they have some side effects, some that are concerning them. You're helping someone with their depression, but you're making the quality of their orgasm worse. That is not a great compromise any of us want to make, but it's the situation with some of these meds. I think what you're talking about, the ubiquity of them,
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Because we have a massive mental health epidemic and we don't have a lot of solutions that our society has been oriented towards. Who is prescribing all of these antidepressants? It's not psychiatrists. It's our primary care doctors, because you come in for a few minutes, you describe horrible anxiety. They've got seven, eight, 10 minutes. What do they have besides Zoloft? Very little.
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Most primary care docs I know, they don't have a deep well of mental health clinicians who have an opening right away. So when it comes to symptom reduction, and again, for some patients, and I think these patients are highly discriminated against, some people just do a lot better on an antidepressant medication. They have less anxiety. They have less fearfulness.
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They have less sadness and depression. They have less fearfulness. And I think right now, and particularly in 2025, there is a real big push. There's a big anti-psychiatry push that these meds don't work. that the serotonin hypothesis of depression is false. I get into this in Healing the Modern Brain because I really want people to know more about the truth.
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And the truth is none of us who are in clinical practice and prescribing antidepressants have thought about depression as a serotonin problem for decades. No one. No one. We use the idea of a chemical imbalance to help people understand there's biology involved in clinical depression. If you get the flu today, Dylan, tonight you're going to be depressed. You're going to feel sad.
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You might feel a little tearful. Why? Because interleukins cause you to feel more depressed. If you're walking around with chronic inflammation all the time, you have a bunch of untreated medical conditions. Sure, we feel maybe we know more of the root cause there, but A lot of folks will do much better with an antidepressant. Why? This is also one of my favorite stats. You know what Prozac is?
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Well, let's start there. The first objective, everybody listening, is I want to get into your mind a little bit and pester you about taking better care of your mental health and building your mental fitness. I think that there are so many people who are Kind of asking for a person's ear and have information and a lot of misinformation these days about mental health.
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It's a massive central, meaning brain, anti-inflammatory. It never gets pitched like that. All you're hearing these days is all these soundbites about the antidepressants don't work and big fun and all this. And it's a bunch of hooey. It's really, really damaging for patients. I have a patient right now who has been on and off of antidepressants, Lexapro, for decades.
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She does incredibly well on the medicine, feels better, doesn't have the same types of thoughts. You know, the idea that like we haven't figured out the root cause of her depression and she shouldn't take medicine anymore. Like every time a New York Times article comes out questioning the meds, she tries to stop.
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And slowly, you know, the way that we recommend people taper off these meds and her symptoms come back. She has multiple people in her family, many of whom are resistant. They've done really well.
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So I'm not here to tell people to take meds or not take meds, but what I would like, Dylan, probably in the world, if I could order it up, I really would like for all of my patients who take medication, I wish that we lived in a world where they could just do that without so much stigma and judgment. And whether it's the pharmacist, oh my gosh, pharmacist, oh, you're still taking this?
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Or whether it's the friend, oh, my gosh, are you sure you need something that strong? It's just the amount of crap that people have to deal with to take care of their mental health and to really have freedom of choice. Again, name any mental health intervention that costs five, 10 bucks for one year of treatment.
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Like for a while, all the big box stores were, you know, you could get a year of an antidepressant for about, I think it was five or seven bucks. That was a few years ago. Yeah. And so I'm not trying to kind of give carte blanche and say everybody should take these meds.
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I'm just saying I'd like to live in a world where patients could actually make a freaking choice based on what the evidence says. And that's not, you know, it's funny. I was really disappointed. I had a lot of wellness influencers, you know, they trot out these stats about serotonin that are totally irrelevant. They love to say like 95% of serotonin is in the gut. Uh-huh.
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There's 500,000 serotonin neurons that innervate our brain. They're different than the ones in the gut. But it's just kind of like it's saying, you know, there's a lot of iron in other parts of the body. It's like, it's not really like... It makes it sound like somehow the serotonin in the brain and the serotonin in the gut have something to do with each other. Right. And they kind of don't.
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They're separate pools. Or when anytime there's a statistic about antidepressants working or not working, you see the people in the wellness community who love to spread Sigma, where they love to jump on this and kind of make it a big pharma conspiracy. And it's just... It makes me frustrated because I'm, by the way, everybody listening, I don't take any money from big pharma.
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I'm not on the dole of any big pharma. I'm just a doctor. I prescribe these medicines. I see them work. I'm in private practice. Nobody would come back to see me ever, right, if what I was doing wouldn't work. I'm expensive and I'm in private practice. So the idea, I'll just say, to get back to mental fitness, is whether you need meds or not, It's not the question of this book.
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And so my motivation was really to inspire people and to give them clear things to do. If you're struggling in your self-awareness, I've got some ideas for you. If you don't really love exercise, that's great. Data says, by the way, in terms of depression, the most effective intervention is to go dancing.
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The question of this book is, can you improve your mental fitness? Can you be more diligent in the care of your mental health? Can you engage in the tenets of mental fitness in a way that helps you achieve your goals? That's more than the debate about meds. What I really wanted to illustrate in this book is that there's so much we can do for our mental health and that it's urgent we start doing it.
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Well, and I also think you're pointing out something that a lot of people who are talking online don't actually treat patients.
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Those of us who are in clinical practice, I've been in clinical practice for 20 plus years. What that means is that there's someone sitting on that couch. and they're looking at me, telling me their problems and their symptoms, and it's our job to come up with a set of solutions together based on their values. If you come in to see me and you never want to take a medicine, okay, let's get to work.
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If you come and see me and you want to learn about medicines, hey, I'm going to share with you everything I know. But really, I think what you're speaking about is that it's easy to find some studies that say antidepressants don't work. It's easy to find some studies that say they do. Well, the art of medicine has gotten lost in all this.
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The art of taking care of people, the art of healing the modern brain involves a lot of different factors for many people. And I really hope that and I think people more than ever feel the wake up call. And we've got to take control of our mental health. It shouldn't be a debate of like meds or no meds anymore.
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It needs to be a conversation about what you're doing in your everyday life to improve your mental fitness and build it just like a muscle. And I think everybody has the capacity for that. I know that even with all of my years as a mental health clinician and been in therapy forever, all that stuff, I still find regular challenges in my daily life, whether it's
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quite seriously so there's research like this that i found exciting or intriguing and i think part of the motivation for me is is you know people really don't like coming to see me so it's a bummer of this profession in some ways you know uh that you know a lot of times people are in a crisis they're rock bottom uh you know and they're really struggling and i
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how I want to be a better parent and more oriented. Realized the other day, like I hadn't really studied my daughter's science with her. I love science. I love middle school science. It's like the cell. It's like my favorite stuff. And it's just kind of embarrassed Dylan. Like what the hell am I doing? Right. Crap. I'm not like helping my daughter with like this. Yeah.
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It was like my favorite subject. And I just like, that's it. That's the tenant of engagement for me. That means that I'm very engaged. I work all the time. It just means that the pull of maybe some of the things calling my attention, it's not oriented with my values as much as I want it to be. And so I really made it this week in particular.
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I really have made it in this week, getting ready all this book stuff. making sure to check in every night, right? Making sure I've understood also this problem I had, like I'm used to studying textbooks and everything's on the iPad. So I was like, man, do I need to order a big science textbook just so at least we can flip through it together?
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Like, how am I going to get more engaged with this aspect that I think is so important? So that's an example, I think, of mental fitness in my own life. And I just illustrate that, tell people that, you know, sometimes you think it, you know, it's this like very abstract or obscure concept. It's like, no, it's right in front of you.
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It's that if you don't have a connection in your marriage, it's like it's right now. It's today. It's that phone call. It's setting up that date night. It's maybe getting something nice on the way home. It's saying this isn't where I want it to be in terms of how my life is feeling.
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And I'm going to take proactive changes, small little steps, like I said earlier, points on the board to move this in the right direction.
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Yep. And I really love that idea. It's like I say, like they say in the New York subway, if you see something, say something. Yes. I believe it's that way with mental health, you know, and I think everybody listening, you know, the subtle nice language to say, right? We start something like, hey, you know, I care about you and I'm, you know, I want to know how you're doing.
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You've seen this or that. not to have people feeling judged or watched, but having people feel seen. Yes. And if you're struggling in some way, people often wonder where to start, right? Do you start with a therapist? Do you start with your primary care doctor? These are all great places to start.
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I also think starting with that friend in your community or in your group or your tribe who's a little maybe mentally health savvy or who has a therapist, that can be a place to start. That notion of who you share this with, it's really scary initially.
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And so picking somebody who's either a professional or picking somebody who you know has an empathic ear towards these types of issues is really important. And not being alone in it. I mean, Dylan, that's the thing that I said earlier. However you're struggling, please don't think you're alone.
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I get a little envious of my other colleagues who, you know, I get to see patients in preventative ways. And because almost everyone I meet, if you start telling me about your mental health, start telling me about some of where you're struggling or where you might need a little bit of help. almost always there's a great conversation to be had and a lot of evidence-based recommendations.
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Something that's often helped me in my life is I think whatever, you know, these things that I'm working with, struggling with, that there is a long line of people who have also struggled with them and overcome them. And it's important for us to remember that.
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Hopefully everybody feels the same way, Dylan. And you guys are eager to check out the book healing.
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Yeah. I also have an e-course up on my site, but then same name, but I'd love to come back. I love folks like yourself who, as you said, some of these things you know about, you're a nutritionist, so you hadn't quite put the nutritional psychiatry piece in there that lentils and folate, it's not just great for our blood cells. It's like the nutrient that's most tied to clinical depression.
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And what I think is great about nutritional psychiatry and the opportunity, and what I found is So many of us have no idea where to find that. Like you asked a doctor, you asked a psychiatrist, you asked somebody with depression, like, hey, what's your favorite folate food? Like right away, everybody should say lentils, right?
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Because lentils is definitely the best folate food in my humble opinion. But most people are like, ah, prenatal vitamin, ha, ha, ha. We don't actually know where to find these nutrients. It was part of my crusade of my first books. It was like, when I say magnesium, I want you to say beans and greens. When I say omega-3 fats, I want to hear a chorus of anchovies, sardines, and mussels, right?
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And wild salmon. Because if we don't know where to find the nutrients that our brain needs, it kind of feels like, I don't know, kind of go back to square one. You got the gift of a human brain. It's like the most incredible. It's better than AI. I mean, it is the most incredible thing the universe knows. It's human consciousness. I mean, it's like amazing.
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Shouldn't we know the nutrients it needs and what foods to find those in? It just seemed like a basic thing that informed the nutritional psychiatry work. And I hope people feel that same kind of passion, but also the same kind of... There's a way that when you hear lentils are like the top folate food, man, they're on your grocery list. There's a way that when you hear like pesto, pesto, pesto...
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
I haven't thought about pasta in a while. It's a great thing to drop on those white beans tonight. It gives you something to do. I hope you will feel that same enthusiasm around these other tenants of mental fitness. Just like I want to upgrade your food. I want to upgrade how you think about movement and connection and engagement. So you are really pushing the limits of mental fitness.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
I think no matter what comes your way, because I think I also want to be clear, maybe this is a depressing place to end. No matter how much you do, no matter how great my mental fitness is, I have tried to work it so hard, Dylan. I still might really, really have problems. I still might have a horrible depressive episode. I might really have to start drinking again.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
You know, all kinds of things can happen to us. And the reason to have mental fitness, I think the motivation is is when those moments do happen, because they do happen, that we have a robust set of tools, right? That we're not caught off guard, that we've got community, that we've got a sense of purpose, that we have a lot going for us so we can overcome that mental health challenge.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
So you don't have to fully meet criteria for depression or anxiety to start working on your mental health. And in fact, if we're gonna be preventative in our country, we're actually gonna give people tools so their mental health is stronger, more robust, more resilient, We've got to do it preemptively and preventatively. And we're just not. There isn't a preventative model in mental health at all.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
That's really my hope for everyone, is just like if you had this huge physical challenge and you'd been working out and work on your flexibility, you'd be ready for it, right?
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
I hope people, everyone, you hear that my recommendation is not like go bench 500 pounds. My recommendation is like you should take up a dance class or you should start a running group. When you think about nutrition, again, I don't have an extreme plan. I'm not asking you to eat all plants or all meat, but I'm asking you to look at a few foods that are what we call more nutrient dense.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
These give you more nutrients per calorie. Those are the ones you should eat. And so it's like that with each of the tenets. Really trying to inspire you to reach for that next rung and to have the humility that I think we all need when it comes to mental health. We don't know everything. We don't know why people feel everything they feel. I try to understand that as much as possible.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
I spend all of my career trying to understand that with people. And I love that quest. But we do know we do have a lot of science and evidence around things that protect our mental health and build our mental fitness. And I hope this is a wake up call for those of you who need it right now. Hey, your mental health matters, matters more than anything else. And I want you to take great care of it.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
I hope it serves as an inspiration that there are things we can do. We didn't talk about some of the favorites like nature. When you go into the forest, you breathe in molecules that causes your brain to – it enhances brain growth. When I found that, I was like, does it get any cooler than that? Does it get any more exciting to go out for a walk in the woods where it's like –
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
You breathe in that big earthy smell and it's like, wow, that just doesn't feel good for no reason. It feels good because it really is enhancing my health and my mental health. I mean, it's very, very cool science in the book. So I hope people will check it out.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
It's invigorating. I mean, there's a difference between you're out there and shivering and you know, you probably have on like the good gloves and a little headband and you know-
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
We're really focused on things like suicide prevention and treatment, which we should be. But I want people engaging in their mental health in a more active way earlier in their lives, building more clear skills that we know help people take better care and have more mental health.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
And it's just, well, I really, I appreciate the interview, but I also just appreciate you being so open and just saying that it's a, you know how it is when you put something like this out in the world.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
Uh, as much as I've worked on my mental fitness and my confidence, uh, you know, you sit here with patients for a couple of decades and you hope the ideas resonate, but it means a lot to be speaking with you. And I hope everybody listening. Thanks for hanging in this long.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
I really hope you'll check out the book, but more, more than anything, I hope that some of these tenants will inspire you today. I hope somebody will see some lentils on the plate. I hope maybe you'll get a little seafood going.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
I hope maybe you'll go watch that sunset or you will reach out to somebody that you have a meaningful relationship with and just reconnect and you'll do it and that you'll feel it. Yeah.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
So, yeah, well, thanks so much to everybody. I'm Drew Ramsey, MD and drewramseymd.com is my website. I've got some free downloads there for you of some of my favorite antidepressant foods and a perfect mental fitness morning. I've also got some e-courses. The book Healing the Modern Brain is available for pre-order right now. But if you're watching this after March, it's available.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
It's up Barnes & Noble, Amazon, Books A Million, all the spots. You can read more about it on those websites or on my website. And I hope you'll check out the book. Check out the e-course, which is a little more intensive and involved. And Most importantly, everybody, please take great care of your mental fitness today and tomorrow and every day after that. You deserve it. We deserve it.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
Because when you're in that mentally healthy state, that's when you're doing your best stuff. So I hope this book and this idea helps you get there in some way. Dylan, thanks so much, man, for sharing. It's a great way to just get inspired and excited about the book. And I really appreciate your enthusiasm. It means a whole lot.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
Well, there's no, I always tell people, there's no greater honor than being the first psychiatrist you've spoken to. So I really appreciate that, everybody. Thanks so much for your time and we'll see you on down the road.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
Yeah, well, let's start where most of people found me, which is through food. And nutrition is a great example. Lots of people eat whatever they want throughout their lives. They never have any mental health problems. You know, they may be running into some problems with their physical health. We've all kind of separated things like that, right, Dylan?
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Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
But when you kind of walk that back, you can't have a physical problem without having a mental health aspect to it. You can't have heart disease without it doubling your risk of depression. Same thing with diabetes, same thing with obesity. And so, you know, there's this false dichotomy we've made, right, that the physical health is somehow separate.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
In terms of preventing mental health, as I said, a lot of people know about nutritional psychiatry these days, this idea of what we eat really influencing our brain health, and that's The arena I've really been working in over the past decade, my last book, Eat to Beat Depression and Anxiety, right? It puts it right out there. I think you can eat in a way that helps you beat those illnesses.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
And I think you can eat in a way, based on the data, that promotes those illnesses. And so... I think the nutrition example is kind of perfect, right? You can eat in a way, Mediterranean diet is what seems most clear, but let's just break that down, right? That means more plants than most people are eating. It means healthier fats than most people are eating.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
It's less sugar, less refined carbohydrates. It's gonna be more fiber than the vast majority of Americans are eating. more B vitamins, particularly things like B9, folate, and B12. There's a set of nutrients that we've kind of identified that are particularly important for our mental health, and most Americans aren't getting enough of those.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
Now, that doesn't mean you're instantly gonna have a mental health problem, but it does increase your risk. So that's a great example of prevention. Similar thing with movement. If you get depressed, what's one of the most powerful, reasonably low cost, side effect free interventions that we have for clinical depression? It's exercise.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
why would we want to wait until you're really, really depressed? Because by the way, that's a real hard time to start exercising to get you into some habits, get some patterns in your life where I call it movement in the book, because I think exercise is hard for some people. Yeah. Just getting in the habit of you're always moving your body.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
You're stretching at night, maybe a little stretching in the morning, you're going out for walks. Maybe you're, as I said, going dancing, uh, These are the types of ideas in terms of, again, prevention of building a set of healthy skills. I had the pleasure of interviewing Scott Galloway, the great business marketing influencer.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
He has this dialed in plan when he starts to feel what he calls when he's depressed, he calls it hollow. And he has this dialed in plan. It's like he starts to got to go sweat. It's the first thing I got to go get a good sweat. And so he's in the habit of that. He knows that. And it's an example of where then he can mobilize that more for his mental health.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
When he finishes that workout, he knows he's doing the right stuff for his mental health, even if he doesn't feel better right away. And almost all of us, once we get some movement, some exercise, we feel a little bit better.
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Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
Dylan, thanks so much. It's awesome to be with you. I'm so excited. Everybody listening to talk all about healing the modern brain and just what we need to be doing every day. Now we need to be doing something to take care of our mental health and build this idea, but I'm calling mental fitness, right? Just like your physical fitness, Dylan, you and I, I'm sure it could work out.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
Well, Dylan, first, I just appreciate you being upfront and honest about it. Eating disorders, something so often we think about is eating. you know, in the land of women.
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Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
And I've treated a number of men in my career who have eating disorders, eating disorders, just so everybody listening, they generally in psychiatry, they fall into kind of more restrictive eating disorders where people are either over-exercising or aren't taking in enough calories and get, you know, very thin and dangerously thin.
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Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
Anorexia nervosa is actually the most lethal of all the psychiatric disorders. About 5% of people who have anorexia pass from anorexia. And then there are the more binging type and purging, more bulimic type eating disorders, as well as some not fully meeting diagnostic criteria right now, but something like what's called orthorexia, where people have a set of food rules that really
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
prevent them from eating a well-rounded, healthy diet. But these are all around rigid ideas around food that prevent people from taking in the healthy nutrition that they need.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
So Dylan, again, just thanks for saying something because being open and honest about ourselves is something that, you know, at times we all can struggle with, especially when there's something that is challenging like an eating disorder. It reminds me of the tenet later in the book. One of the tenets is about unburdening. And Dylan, I think you just gave a really good example of that.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
You're on the other side of something that for years you probably wouldn't imagine you would never tell anyone. And now it's something that, as you say, you just started talking about it. You kind of put your foot down a little bit and you said, you know, it's something that I am talking about now. And so, you know, in terms of your personal mental health evolution, having that out in front of you
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
And having your loved ones and people that you're eating with and your community and your friends know about that. It creates a milieu or an environment where you're really able to set a new set of mental health and mental fitness goals for yourself. You're not spending time with the secret. You're not spending time, you know, kind of figuring out how to facilitate these behaviors.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
You'd have some tips. I'd have some tips. There's so many different aspects of our physical fitness, our strength, our endurance, our flexibility. The same really exists for our mental health. I call these tenets of mental fitness because a tenet is something we all know. It's something we all agree on. This isn't some secret little hack that I figured out.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
You're spending time, I would guess, when you're having challenges, talking about them with people.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Episode #14 Featuring Dr. Drew Ramsey M.D PART 1 ! THE MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE! The importance of mental fitness, the role of nutrition on mental health, stress vs. mental health, stigmas with mental health medications, his NEW BOOK release and more!
So it's appreciated. Thank you, Dylan. I appreciate that. And I know that these are hard things to talk about. I've had a lot of different mental health things in my own life and in my own family. And there's nothing worse about these conditions than than when we feel we're alone with them.