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America’s Obesity Crisis: Is Ozempic a Cure or a Cover-Up? | Calley Means and Tyna Moore

Mon, 17 Feb 2025

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The rise in obesity and chronic disease over the years is alarming. Rather than genetics, it can be attributed to environmental and dietary changes, emphasizing the role of food quality over quantity. And while GLP-1 agonists like Ozempic may show some promise in addressing metabolic dysfunction, concerns about long-term effects, muscle loss, and cost highlight the need for a more nuanced approach. Ultimately, a holistic strategy that includes diet, lifestyle, and personalized interventions is essential for sustainable health improvements. In this episode I discuss, along with Dr. Tyna Moore and Calley Means, the complexity of obesity, moving beyond the simplistic "calories in, calories out" model to focus on factors like insulin resistance, ultra-processed foods, and metabolic dysfunction. With nearly three decades experience in the medical world, Dr Tyna Moore is a leading expert in holistic regenerative medicine and resilient, metabolic health. Traditionally and alternatively trained in science and medicine as both a Naturopathic Physician and Chiropractor, she brings a unique perspective to those wishing to build a more robust foundation in their health and well-being. She is a podcast host, author, speaker, kettlebell devotee and mother. She is a fierce advocate for health autonomy and personal responsibility, which she helps others improve through her many offerings at drtyna.com and on her podcast, The Dr Tyna Show. Her true passion is coaching healthcare practitioners to utilize social media and build the online business of their dreams so they aren’t shackled by illegal mandates and can enjoy more time, money and autonomy. Calley Means is the founder of TrueMed, a company that enables tax-free spending on food and exercise. He is also the co-author with his sister, Dr. Casey Means, ofGood Energy: The Surprising Connection Between Metabolism and Limitless Health, and is now available for pre-order.Earlier in his career, Calley was a consultant for food and pharma companies and is now exposing practices they use to weaponize our institutions of trust. In the past year, he’s met with 50 members of Congress and presidential candidates advocating policies to combat the corruption of the pharma and food industries. He is a graduate of Stanford and Harvard Business School. Full length episodes can be found here: Can Ozempic Fix Our Obesity Crisis Ozempic: A Weight-Loss Miracle of Metabolic Menace? The Science of Weight Loss: What You Need to Know This episode is brought to you by BIOptimizers. Head to bioptimizers.com/hyman and use code HYMAN10 to save 10%.

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic of this episode?

0.249 - 14.513 Dr. Mark Hyman

Coming up on this episode of The Dr. Hyman Show. Now, according to this theory, as long as you eat fewer calories than you expend, you'll lose weight, right? Well, it doesn't matter if the calories come from a thousand calories of soda or a thousand calories of broccoli, all calories are the same in this model.

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Now, the implicit message here is that you're overweight because you eat too much and you don't exercise enough. In other words, it's your fault because you don't have the willpower. And the subtext is that you're lazy glutton. I don't believe that. This is just nonsense. You know, I often remind people that sleep is not just a luxury, it's a necessity.

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And if you're looking for curated, trusted supplements and health products for your health journey, visit my website, drhyman.com, for my website store and a summary of my favorite and thoroughly tested products. How did obesity triple in the last 60 years from about 13% of the population to 43% of the population? I can guarantee you it's not an ozempic deficiency.

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Functional medicine provides a better framework for understanding root causes, particularly around obesity, metabolic dysfunction, and type 2 diabetes, and provides a way more sustainable and affordable treatment that works. I've seen this over and over again. We're going to talk about that in a minute. So let's get deeper into what's going on here in America.

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Why is this drug important and why are we seeing such increased use of it? Well, we have a problem. There's no denying that. As I said, 93% of Americans have some type of metabolic dysfunction because of poor diet and lifestyle. That means only 6.8% of Americans are metabolically healthy, meaning they're not somewhere on the continuum of

Chapter 2: Why is obesity increasing in America?

1780.788 - 1796.683 Dr. Mark Hyman

But the truth is, they're both right, because Darwin is about gene changes, and Lamarck is really talking about epigenetic changes, which can happen from generation to generation. And I think one of the things we're seeing now is generations of kids who are born to obese parents.

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1797.424 - 1812.374 Dr. Mark Hyman

And the consequences of that, the epigenetic changes in the womb that happen from the environment that the baby is bathed in, from processed food and sugar and starch and lack of exercise and stress and all the things, environmental toxins, all of that is programming these children.

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1812.394 - 1827.024 Dr. Mark Hyman

And we know this data from many, many epigenetic studies is programming these children to be obese, have heart disease, have diabetes, end up with cancer and many other problems. And they're kind of screwed before they were even born. So these kids come into the world and then they're,

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more likely to be obese or more likely to have these programmed epigenetic changes that maybe are affecting the expression of the genes. So the genes don't change, but the expression changes. And that's an important point.

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1840.675 - 1848.002 Calley Means

And I agree, Kelly. But they could change if that child is provided a whole food diet. That's right. Epigenetic changes can be reversed. Is exposed to sunlight.

1848.582 - 1866.453 Calley Means

So we have an Orwellian situation where we have such a crisis in America that children are in utero developing metabolic dysfunction because we're being, our food is so toxic and we've had a sedentary lifestyle and aren't looking at the sunlight and being, you know, sleeping, dysregulated sleeping, chronic stress with our phones.

1866.733 - 1883.54 Calley Means

So we have such a bad metabolic health environment that we have an epidemic of kids being born, you know, born with metabolic dysfunction. So it is societally vital. There's nothing more important than this. So we have an opportunity. It's not a both-and.

1884.221 - 1907.551 Calley Means

Are we going to, as a matter of public policy and as a matter of focus in that country, change that dynamic of changing our USDA guidelines to say that that two-year-old shouldn't be eating sugar? When you go the route of Ozempic, when you go the route that this is so bad that we need to jab those children at six. That's a different route. That's a different prioritization. It's not both hands.

1907.631 - 1913.655 Dr. Mark Hyman

I'm not so sure I'm up for giving kids six years old. That's another conversation. I think that's a little extreme.

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