The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Most Shared Moment: How To Get Rich *SLOWLY*: Scott Galloway
Fri, 03 Jan 2025
In this moment Scott Galloway provides practical tips for building wealth and saving for the future. He explains why starting early, investing in low-cost index funds, and using simple tools like savings apps can make a big difference. Scott also talks about the benefits and risks of real estate and the importance of diversifying your investments. It's an easy-to-follow guide to managing money wisely and planning for long-term success. Listen to the full episode here - Spotify - https://g2ul0.app.link//s9EFhgMOPPb Apple - https://g2ul0.app.link//U7ZZBkPOPPb Watch the Episodes On Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/c/%20TheDiaryOfACEO/videos Scott: https://www.profgalloway.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What advice does Scott give for young investors?
The email I get most is from young men looking for guidance and mothers looking for guidance for their sons. The second most frequent email is the following. Is it too late to invest in Nvidia? And the honest answer is I don't know. I can imagine a scenario where it gets cut by 80%. I can imagine a scenario where it triples. So this is what you do.
Chapter 2: How to invest in low-cost index funds?
You invest in SPY because about 20% on the dollar will go into the Magnificent Seven because they're about 20% of the market cap of the S&P. SPY is, again, a basket of different stocks. It's an index fund that mimics the S&P. So there are 500 companies in the S&P. Nvidia is probably three or 5% of the total value of the S&P. So 5 cents on your dollar goes into Nvidia, right?
About 20%, is that right? 24, 25% is the Magnificent Seven, the tech companies we talk about. 25 cents on your dollar will go to them. So assume those companies double Great, you participate. But assume the other 493 companies finally get their time in the sun and those companies go down a half, you're still fine. You're still fine.
Again, you don't need to find the needle in the haystack and stop believing in a very American way that you can figure it out. I know the brightest people in finance. And my net conclusion is that none of them have any fucking idea. Some have a little bit more of an idea.
But if you look at the entire alternative investments industry, hedge funds, private equity funds, mutual funds, anyone on CNBC, if you took all of their returns in aggregate, they're less than the S&P by the amount of their fees.
It's one of the greatest grifts in the modern economy is believing that some guy who looks old and unhappy and has suspenders and went to Harvard knows more about the markets than you. All you need to know is diversification, right? SPY, start saving young. And then the next best piece of advice is if you can, if you can, force savings. 98% of us will spend everything we get our hands on.
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Chapter 3: What are the benefits of forced savings?
It is very hard to have the discipline to take money that is within your grasp and invest it. Forced savings plan. Find out at work if they have profit sharing or IRAs or Roths, whatever the, I forget what it's called here, where if you put some money aside, the government matches it. Pensions? Well, not only pensions, but there's something here, I forget what it's called.
If you save 5,000 pounds through your work, the government, I think, will match it, put in 1,000 pounds. There's all sorts of saving schemes at work. Acorns, the apps that round up to the nearest dollar and then immediately shoot it into SPY. Try as hard as you can to put yourself in a position where you invest despite your best efforts not to.
Because the majority of us will get that money and go buy a flat screen TV.
Chapter 4: How can apps help with investing?
And when you're saying investing, I think because it can sometimes sound complicated from someone that's so far away from it. There's apps on our phones now where we can, in a couple of minutes, invest in the exact thing you've just said. We can make an account in a couple of minutes and probably ask for our passport, take a photo of our passport.
$50.
Go to public.com. I mean, start with a basic low-cost ETF or index fund. SPY, if you want to take a little bit more risk and you want to be in tech, there's all sorts of ETFs and index funds around tech. Every young person, especially young men, is under the impression they're smarter than they are and that they can beat the market.
Chapter 5: Why is diversification important in investing?
So, okay, take 30% of your money, have some fun, buy Starbucks, Nvidia, Unilever, Novo Nordisk, whatever you think you have insight into so you can learn a life lesson that over the long term you don't know what you're doing and just put it in an index fund.
Because the marvelous thing about the human race is we become more productive and the Western economies, generally speaking, over the medium and long term are up and to the right. And again, and I'll go back to my algorithm or equation. Focus, find something you could be good at, maybe great, that has a 90 plus percent employment rate. Stoicism, we haven't talked about that.
Realize there's some things you can't control. Focus on the things you can control. One thing that is within your control is spending. Try and find a partner. Try and gamify spending. I spent $78 a week my summer between my junior and senior year, including rent, because I needed $3,300 to go back to school.
I partnered with five other guys in my fraternity, and we gamified who could spend the least amount of money. Find a partner who's aligned with you around spending and saving, right? Realize no one's as impressed or thinking about your shit as much as you are. Try and find reward from exercise, from relationships, not from signaling wealth with kind of stupid shit. I call that stoicism.
It's really more about discipline. Develop a savings muscle. One, an appreciation for time and how fast it's going to go. I was stupid. I remember my best friend, Lee Lotus, picking me up to go to the beach when I was in college, and he was scrambling to find $2,000 to put into something called an IRA Roth, where his company A bank he was working for, he was just out of college.
If he found $2,000, they would match it with another 2,000. I thought, I said to him these exact words, if 2,000 bucks means anything to me when I'm older, shoot me. I have made so much more money than Lee Lotus and he is a multimillionaire now, so am I, but I've endured a lot more risk and a lot more ups and downs because he was that lame guy scraping together $2,000 when he was 23.
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Chapter 6: What mistakes should new investors avoid?
I went out and spent my first bonus check at Morgan Stanley. I got $28,000 my first year out of college, Morgan Stanley. $28,000 check. I go out and I buy a $35,000 BMW, hung swim goggles from the rear view mirror thinking that would impress people. I don't know what I was doing. I figured out if I had bought a Hyundai...
for 9,000 bucks, which you could get in 1987 or whatever it is, and invested the other 20 in SPY, never looked at it again, I would have enough money now to buy 11 Ferraris, including that new electric Ferrari that for some reason appeals to me, which makes no sense, an electric Ferrari. Anyways. You're going to love this.
I tell the people that work for me that I drive up in a Ferrari and I say, if you work really hard, someday, someday, I'll have two Ferraris. I don't have a Ferrari, by the way. My other joke about a Ferrari is Ferrari is like having a long, consistent erection. I don't have a Ferrari. Anyways, where were we going? Realize people aren't as impressed with your shit as you are.
Chapter 7: How does compounding interest work?
Recognize the power of time. And then the thing where I really screwed up, Steven, diversification. Take some money off the table. Invest in... I'm hearing from employees at NVIDIA, we talked about this, diversify. You get... It's such a bulletproof Kevlar for your mental health. You get risk-free return. Nobody knows, anything can happen. Amazon 1999, again, lost 90% of its value.
Do you know the kind of mental anguish when you go into a stock like Amazon and you lose 90% of your investments? So if you wanna have some fun, ring fence it to 30% of your savings, pick some stuff, and it'll be a good life lesson for you. You may get lucky, more power to you. Over time, you're going to realize nothing beats over the long term.
Warren Buffett, what are the third wealthiest man on the world? I'm giving you the same answer he gives. If someone has 10,000 bucks, how do they invest? And he's like, low cost index funds. It's a two and a half hour conversation. It's okay. Put it in the low cost index. I know it's, it's the boring shit that makes you rich. Yeah. It's also, I advise a lot of CEOs.
It's the boring incremental stuff to move shareholder value.
No, it's so true. So one of the things that stopped me when I was young from doing exactly what you just said is I didn't think that the $500 I had or the 500 pounds that I had was enough to get started. So I said to myself in my head, I thought, okay, when I get a million, I'll become an investor.
And I think a lot of people actually listen to these kinds of conversations and go, okay, once I've, once I've got, 5,000 pounds disposable income a month, then I'll do what Scott said. But there's no point in doing it with a small amount of money.
I wanted to use this little bucket of sand here as an analogy for this, because my team brought a bucket of sand to illuminate the power of compounding interest when you invest in these S&P 500 companies. And this glass represents investing $1,000 a month in the S&P 500 over the course of 12 months, starting at the age of 25. Right.
But if you left it and kept investing at that rate, by the age of 65, it would look like this. You have Zuma Beach.
Oh, my God. Thank God that's you.
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