The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The Black McAfee Show (feat. David Samson & Jason Goff)
Thu, 03 Apr 2025
The 'bomb-sniffing dog for uninteresting' is here to ruin one of the most incredible things his sport has ever seen before we get to Jackie, the Crochet King, and Charlie's dad. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: Why is tequila's history important to this episode?
Now's a good time to remember where tequila's story truly began. In 1795, Cuervo invented tequila. Cuervo. What are you doing here? Cuervo. Anytime someone says Cuervo, I show up. Well, I do know that to be true, but even during ad reads, like... Cuervo. I think you could lay out, especially for one of our great partners. Sweet, delicious Cuervo. Since then, Cuervo has stayed true to its roots.
Cuervo.
The tequila that invented tequila. Proximo. Cuervo.com. Please drink responsibly.
Chapter 2: What makes The Big Suey podcast unique?
Welcome to the Big Sui, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Levitard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys?
I've done it. And now, here's the marching band to nowhere, fat face, and the habitual liar.
This episode of the Dan Levitard Show with Stu Gatz is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings, the crown is yours.
You can catch Pitch Clock later with Jeremy if you want to. But right now, we got my man, MVP of the last time I did a weak stint down here. David Sampson.
What's up, David? How are you, buddy? I am bursting at the seams right now. I'm drinking tea because I can't swallow exactly, but I'm watching the stock market plunge. I'm watching tariffs increase. I'm watching companies panic. I'm watching Mike Schur as the baseball expert of Metal Ark. Are you guys kidding me, Jeremy? Seriously.
I do have a question though. So today we start the show with you talking about how I guess your throat hurts or something. Yesterday you start the show. Do you remember what you said in introducing yourself yesterday? You said something about your bottom being clean? My bottom is fresh.
What does that mean? You took a shower? Today's bursting at the seams. So at the end of I'll tell you, you know, Dominique, I have no secrets from you. I do nothing personal live from 8 to 8.50 a.m. And during the course of the show, I build up sweat because I'm sitting and talking. So what I do in between shows is I freshen up.
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Chapter 3: Why is David Samson fired up about the Dodgers?
All right, David, so the Dodgers are off to an 8-0 start in Shohei. I hit a walk-off last night. What about the Dodgers? So strange. Yeah, you are so strange. What about the Dodgers has got you fired up right now, buddy?
I'm fired up that their fans are so ridiculous that they waited in line for a bobblehead that was being given away to all fans in attendance. What happened there? Why do you have to wait in line? Why do you hate fans? That's awesome. Like, they're excited. They're excited. But do they have that much time on their hands that they're happy to stand in line?
Listen, if you're the Marlins and you only give away 5,000 bobbleheads, because that's the most sponsorship you can get, and you know you're going to have a turnstile of 10,000, that means 5,000 people aren't going to get it. And here's a funny little side note. We don't actually give away all 5,000.
We keep a pallet for ourselves and our employees and the player and to give away if there's customer complaints, but nobody ever counts that. But if you give to every fan, why wait online?
So you're mad that fans are actually coming to the stadium on time. This is a shock to you.
You just can't fathom it. It's amazing.
They're not on time. They were early and they were doing it because the Dodgers previously, there were not enough fotani bobbleheads for everyone. And the Japanese sponsors said, we don't want unhappy customers. We want to pay for bobbleheads for everyone. Don't you think it should have been communicated that you don't need to wait online?
I think that you like sometimes something happens and then people have a genuine reaction to the thing that's happening. That reaction could be positive or negative. I believe that you wake up in search of things to be mad about. They are so good. There's a baseball team that is so good that has a player who's so popular that the fans show up early and wait in line.
And somehow I give you an opportunity to talk about how awesome this team is, how they're 8-0, and they could possibly surpass 13-0 for the first time since, I guess, 2023, which would be incredible. What does that matter?
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Chapter 4: How do tariffs affect the sports industry?
You're the only person on earth, David, who would somehow wake up having never lost a game with your giant star pitcher slash slugger, hit a walk-off home run, first pitch, walked out there. That was some cold shit. And you somehow are like, they should be despondent, despondent. I don't get you, David.
You just want to be angry. Be happy. I mean, I'm not happy with what's going on, but I'm so happy that we can be distracted by doing the show and not watching what's happening in the markets right now and the reality of what really what the tariffs mean to the sports world. It's a big story. And obviously we talk about companies and cars and manufacturers
These tariffs that were imposed actually impact sports and sports teams in ways as well, like bobbleheads. Bobbleheads just got more expensive, I promise you that, because they're not made in the U.S. of A. What? So, oh, no, they are not. They get on big, big... ships and they come across the water and then you have to get them through customs.
And then they're in big pallets that get delivered 50,000 of them to Dodger stadium. The size of those pallets people are, it's incredible when they get delivered and how you have to store them before you give them away. And then the forklifts you need to bring them to the different gates. It's a whole thing that happens.
He's legitimately excited about this part of it. Not about the Dodgers start, but just about the process of the pallets making their way from Long Beach up to Chavez Ravine.
You are like a bomb sniffing dog for uninteresting. Like I lay out the most interesting possible topic and you just... Let me find the part that can bore them. Let's talk about tariffs and pallets of bobbleheads.
So let me re-angle. This is a team that should be despondent, right? Which is the athletics of God knows what city. You're not allowed to say. They're not allowed to say what city. It's just the athletics, right? No, it's just the athletics. So the Athletics, who are playing in Sacramento but are not the Sacramento Athletics, playing in a minor league stadium that seats 14,000.
They couldn't even sell that out for opening day.
Well, that includes 3,000 standing room down the line. So they did sell out all the actual seats, but because it's a AAA stadium, there's a bunch of places you can go to engage with the game but not actually have a seat. which doesn't work well when it's 100 degrees outside in the middle of summer.
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Chapter 5: Why is the Saudi influence in sports a hot topic?
Well, you know, we're old, David. Yeah, all three of us. And Dominique. So what we see now more so is when people are taking pictures, young people especially, some of them like to make the handgun gesture and, you know, let you know that, you know, I keep it loaded even though no one is shooting anyone with handgun gestures. The problem I have with it is who has John Morant seen this work for?
Right. Like like after a while, you got to you got to study the behavior and think, oh, I've seen this work for Jordan. I've seen this work for LeBron. And even if you don't want to be those people, look at Isaiah Ryder's career, like look at certain careers where you're like, oh. Maybe I want to stay away from this.
And if his goal is to make as little money off the court as possible, then knock yourself out, player. But I don't get it. You know, I got an eight-year-old son. I try to teach him certain things. I'm sure John Moran's dad has tried to teach him certain things.
But once a guy gets this position and has been emboldened by as much money and also the talent that he carries and the impact that he has on that city, you just got to hope he grows out of certain things. But the gun gesture thing – I mean, I remember when Chris Webber was doing a throat slash, and people were upset with that.
So I don't know how this is ever going to work out in his favor, except for the people who are telling him it looks cool on the outside.
The funny thing is, I'm hesitant. Obviously, there's plenty of people to talk about how ridiculous it is. It does clearly seem like it's an assault rifle gun gesture. I understand. I appreciate, David, you acknowledging that you may not be sure, but it feels like it falls specifically in that category. Yeah.
But I also think about John Morant, and I think Zion falls in this category also, and Anthony Edwards falls in this category. I complain often about the early professionalization of youth sports and how we get kind of all these athletes who are trained to be boring. Robots. And uninteresting, and they play that way, and they act that way. And John Morant's not one of those guys.
And so I appreciate that John Morant skyrocketed in his popularity because of the way they played, and not because of the gun stuff, but because he was interesting. And I like that. But sometimes what comes along with that is he hasn't been polished.
He's a rougher rock that hasn't been through this AAU, this Nike circuit that 12-year-old talented basketball players have gone through, which is how you end up with a player like Jason Tatum, right? who plays incredibly well and says nothing that I care about.
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Chapter 6: What are the implications of Ja Morant's gun gesture?
Yeah, with Kyle Anderson who's plus 47 over his last four games.
There we go. Dominique, go on game time. Can you say that again for me? Go on game time. You can get tickets right now. That's Irvin Sampson right there. I like it.
I like it. Oh, my gosh. All right, David, before I let you go, is there anything you want us to know before you go? You want to throw out a plug for your show? Tell us how clean or dirty your bottom is, whatever the things are that you like to say.
Well, I've got a good schvitz going because I'm drinking tea right now, so it will require a post-show cleanse. But I will say that I appreciate you helping and having me and paying attention to nothing personal, but I leave you with this. Okay, leave it. The Dodgers are 8-0, the Braves are 0-7.
The likelihood that either one of them will win or lose 116 games continues to be low, low like likely never to happen. Therefore, when you're feeling so good about something and conversely, you're feeling so bad about something. Just know that feeling is what gives you the frame of reference when things get better. Words to live on. I love it. See you, David. Way to go, David.
100%.
I did. I needed it. I didn't quite get it. Like, what I was trying to do was, like, let's get excited. And David was like, hey, you know what? Don't be happy. Don't be happy. It's dark out there. Like, what I need, like, if I were. Time for a passage from David's Red Book. I was saying, like, look, I'm not a big baseball guy, but Shohei got my attention. Of course. The Dodgers may be chasing 116.
That'll get my attention. I care about it. The guy who we bring on this show who's supposed to be the big baseball guy is like, you know what? That's never going to happen. They're not going to win 116 games. And they lined up for the Shohei bobbleheads. What trash is it? That's not what I was looking for.
I'm a realist. You want pie in the sky. You want all things, you know, seashells and balloons. It's not like that. And the moment that you get out of that world and get back into the reality of David Sampson and the great people here at the Dan Lebitard Show. You're a star.
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Chapter 7: What lessons can be learned from David Samson's perspective on sports narratives?
I haven't been yet. Denny's is like 2 a.m. back in the day.
Oh, yeah. We got greasy spoons. You know what I mean? And you can't get shot at at Denny's. I'd like to go somewhere where there's a little bit of danger.
I would go to IHOP, but not Denny's.
Yeah, IHOP. Yeah, I have been to IHOP. Last time I was at IHOP, I was a kid, and then we dined and ditched, unfortunately. Which is always the uncomfortable, who's going to be the last person at the seat kind of vibe. Enough time's passed. I think you're good. Yeah, statute of limitations.
You know, IHOP puts pancake batter in their omelets to make them fluffier.
Shut the front door. Yo, Jess, yo. This is the oracle. Like, there's information that I get from Jess that I didn't know I needed. You know, Cody, Jess, you know, you got Bam out of Biostats back there from Jam.
What's my name?
Okay.
I got it.
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