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Chapter 1: What is Dan's accusation against Jeremy?
I am so disappointed that there has been a lack of evolution in America and in 2025 and with our show that makes it this many years after Jackie Robinson that Jeremy and Pitch Clock are segregated. What? baseball lives over there.
Chapter 2: Why is baseball segregated on the show?
Baseball lives in a segment that Jeremy wants to do with others, not with us, because nobody around here wants to talk about baseball, wants to be excited about opening day. I've got a room full of people who don't care about baseball. Billy cares about it, but the Marlins have broken his soul.
I mean, I'll be there. I'll be there supporting the team. But, you know, I'm biased, of course. I'll be there taking it in.
You want to do pitch clock next week? Well, I mean... Segregated.
Here's the problem with pitch clock. Because you're saying no one wants to talk about baseball. Is it possible no one wants to talk to Jeremy?
Segregated. I think we should do... All right, I'm going to head out. I think we should just... No, you're not going to head out. You're going to be here. You're going to do Pitch Clock in 15 minutes.
Well, that's over in Studio B. I can get ready.
Okay. I mean, look, I don't think it's very friendly what they did there. I believe, though, that Pitch Clock... When has this show ever been friendly to me? It's never been segregated. It's never...
Well, I got sent to the penalty box a lot, man. There was a time when I couldn't say anything. I was like, I mean, go to the penalty box. It felt a little, you know. The implications. Yeah, the implications.
We've got a penalty. Five minutes. Major asshole. Jeremy, right? Jeremy. Get out of me.
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Chapter 3: What are the details of the Cain Velasquez incident?
We all know that's true. Just because Amin was black. That's it. Yeah, born on third base. That's the only reason I did it. This Cain Velasquez story, if you guys have not been reading it, Cain Velasquez, a very menacing man, UFC heavyweight champion.
And I'd like to get the details right on this because a lot of parents in the audience, OK, because I don't know what it is to summon this particular rage. I do not have kids, so I cannot find in me anything that would make me react the way that Cain Velasquez did, where my rage consumes me in such a fashion. that I stop thinking about consequences at all.
Cain Velasquez was so infuriated that his son had been molested by an adult that he tried to start shooting him in the street while chasing him and I cannot imagine a lot of things scarier than an enraged Cain Velasquez who's not thinking about consequences
trying to shoot me and accidentally shooting others and now he goes to prison for five years at least and i'm guessing a lot of parents in the audience might understand the idea of getting so beside yourself outside yourself with rage that you decide to try to kill somebody
And you stop thinking about what that means because your love and protection is such that that is the worst thing that you can do to somebody. The worst thing an adult can do to somebody is take advantage of someone vulnerable to be the protector of that person.
And to feel responsible for allowing that to happen in any way, I think anyone listening to this can understand how a rage would consume you that would make you stop caring about consequences.
Well, clearly, Cain had to go to prison because he had an innocent bystander. But as a parent, for the person who did that heinous act, that right there is justifiable homicide. And I don't think any jury in the world, if the person who committed the heinous act, if I had actually killed that person, would convict me.
I don't think that's, is that legally right? I don't think that's legally right.
I don't think so at all. I'm pretty sure you would still, like, justification be damned. I think you would still get convicted.
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Chapter 4: How does the show handle sensitive topics like justice and rage?
Well, it's yes, blindly. But in this case, Dan, to assist you here, in this case, it was not only blindly where it just happened at a happenstance or like a matter of a second. This was prolonged blindness of I'm going to chase this guy in his car for 11 miles while I shoot.
several shots out of a .40 caliber handgun into the car that also has his mom and his stepfather and the stepfather eventually getting struck with non-life-threatening shots. But that's where the attempted murder comes in. That's where all of these firearm charges and whatnot comes in.
But the issue is, and how to tie everything together, is the man who was accused of molesting his son, the parents who were in the car owned a daycare that the son went to. And that's kind of the connection point where they were all in the car. He went out there and tried to, again, avenge his son for what had happened. And the prolonged nature of 11 miles. Right.
And we're talking about, I believe, in California, that's probably through traffic. That's a very long stretch of road.
It's a long stretch to not consider consequences. Exactly. Like it is premeditated. Well, it's not just premeditated. It's a weird thing to say about rage. Right. Because I would say that rage is not premeditated, that by definition, what rage is, is something that cannot be controlled. I'm just trying to think of an example that I could come up with for me as someone who does not have a child.
That would summon such an anger point on data that I would not consider that the moment that I try to kill this person, I am now going to lose my freedom and things in prison would not... They'll go better for Cain Velasquez than they will for me. Much better. But... but that I would not consider the consequences of that.
I don't know, if I ask the audience for a hypothetical, have you ever been that enraged? Have you ever been so enraged that the consequences are just intergalactically stupid on what it is that you're doing?
Because I think people listening to this would understand so much what Cain Velasquez did that they might make up the law the way Roy just did and say there isn't a jury that would convict somebody for that. But my guess is, let me ask you guys this. If I put you in the jury box. If I put all of you in the jury box and say, hey, you got to come back with a verdict, where are we going with that?
It's really hard, especially if you get the jury pool of parents, to come back and be like, yeah, he was in the wrong there. By the law, yes, in the wrong. But there's got to be some sort of nuance to exactly what's going on where the matter of, again, I don't know the legalities of what happened on the other side, right, with the guy who was actually molesting his son.
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Chapter 5: How do the hosts plan live events like F1 in Miami?
Well, I'll tell you exactly what it's like. You guys would be talking, and in the background, you go... I mean, that's no different than the air conditioner here.
Is the race going on, or we're just going to be at the event? It's a lot different than the air conditioner here. Or the plane that we hear periodically that flies over. It's no... He said that as if he would. He said it like the stat of the day. Go be segregated. I want you to leave right now. Go do pitch clock. Get out of here. Just go be segregated.
This has been a really awesome tease for the pitch clock this hour.
Sorry I didn't help you. It was as good as oddballs. We do a good job promoting other shows. Jessica. We've broken her. It took four years. Here's Pitch Clock. What are we doing with the bet in the postgame? And before we get to the bet in the postgame, I want to ask this question.
Please forgive my ignorance on this because there may be an answer to this that's emotional, sentimental about his father that I don't know. When did it become Jimmy Butler III? Like with, like, I didn't know, I didn't, but I didn't know when seeing it in print and whatnot, I did not know we've made him RG three. I did not know that this was JB three.
This is something, this has not been something in print that I have seen. This is a recent thing. It has not been the entirety of his career. And I'm asking, when did that happen?
When he went over to Golden State, he, I think, informed them he wanted to say Butler III on it because his first game that he was on, it just said Butler, and then they added the third, and it was very off-center. So I think that, like, day of game one, he informed them he wanted that because the jersey didn't seem ready for the first game, and then by the next game, it was already good to go.
So it's just he wanted to change his name. Well, it's his name.
He's not changing it. He just wants to go by that.
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Chapter 6: What is the trivia challenge on the Pitch Clock segment?
Chris, you'll reveal first this round. Pujols. Pujols, not on the list.
What?
Okay, I also had Pujols. I can't believe I didn't put this other guy. This guy could have been retired by now, but Jim Tome. Really? Jim Tome, not on the list.
I had Jim Tome also.
Wow. Wow. That's weird. Barry Bonds.
When did he retire?
Did you have Barry Bonds on the list? No.
Barry Bonds was not on the list.
Was he retired at that point?
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