The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Dan Interviews Dan: A Live Show About Love, Loss, and Laughter
Mon, 10 Feb 2025
It was a night to remember in New Orleans as we heard from an industry titan, a man who conquered sports television and reinvented sports radio, a pillar and a trailblazer who lights up the room the second he walks into it. And also Dan Le Batard was there. Le Batard interviews Dan Patrick for over an hour in front of a live audience in New Orleans for Super Bowl Week about his life and career, the most important choices made along the way, and how he built one of the most powerful empires in sports media. The duo also shares how their friendship formed and the ways they've supported one another throughout the years. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: Who are the Dans behind the microphones?
Please give a thunderous welcome that properly expresses how eternally grateful we are for these legends' bountiful contributions to sport and society. Here is Dan Patrick. And Dan Levitar.
Oh, come on, man. Come on. Come on.
Thank you, Dan!
Thank you, Dan!
Thank you, Dan! Can you hear us okay? Is his mic okay? Is his mic okay? I say this sincerely, what a magical thing. And you say, so I would also ask you, what is it? Do you know? Do you know what is it? Do you know what we're doing here? The reason I want to explain what a magical thing it is, do you know what we're doing? Like really, do you know what we're doing?
How many times are you going to ask me if I know what we're doing? No, I don't know what we're doing.
And neither do I. And this is what I would say to you. It's a fairly amazing thing. I know how much gratitude he has for you. I know how much gratitude I have for you. You're here because you trust us. You don't know what this is. You paid money. You made a pilgrimage because you spend hours with us every day. And now you're giving us yet another hour because you trust us.
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Chapter 2: What is the bond between Dan Patrick and his audience?
And this is one of the few people in the industry who is simpatico with me on what his audience is. And he has a value and appreciation for what that trust is because he's climbed to the top of the business. This business, the Shoutfest, that is the ocean of debate with fairness and decency. You trust him to be credible. Everybody hates the media.
They don't hate him. You're bringing the vibe down here, Dan. Come on, let's go. Let's have some fun here.
I want to talk to them about radio, though, and I want to talk to them about what your community means to you, because I don't think they understand. They may feel it, but you're a repressed Irish Catholic. You don't necessarily, you might not tell them how you feel, but I know how much he values you. I see it in the care he exhibits and the product he insists on giving you.
Oh, was there a question?
Sorry.
That's by way of introduction, I really admire him. The second half of his career is more impressive than the first half, and the first half he changed sports television. So tell me though what your relationship is with your radio audience, because it's more intimate than anything else, and you do a radio show before anything else.
TV star, but radio is what, like, that's where the connection is with you guys who are here to see him.
Yeah, that was always the important thing that I did SportsCenter, but I didn't know you. Radio, I know you. Whether you email, you call, you tweet, even just interactions when I go out to sporting events, that's the friendship that you have. Like, you feel like you're partners every morning. You're watching, I'm there with you. You allow me into your home.
Into your car, that's as intimate as it can get. I mean, I can't blame some of the ladies if you hear this voice in the morning in your car. Yeah. It's smooth. It's good.
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Chapter 3: How did Dan Patrick transition from ESPN to independent success?
No, he's not friends with Greg Cody. He's only friends with me.
No, I think that we struck up a relationship that allowed us to kind of unload on each other. And we just connected for some reason. I never would have thought that because I didn't know if he would take an interest. But that's one of the great things about him is he truly cares. And Dan said, can you describe me in five words? And I said, I can try.
No, what you said is relax, Larry King.
I did. I did. That's what you said. That is true. I did. But, you know, when you start to think about friends and how many friends you have in your life, in this business, I mean, this is a, we're cannibals. This business is not for the meek. It's not for the young. I mean, and if it is for the young, you know, hopefully you get older so you can survive all of the stuff that you go through.
And we just had this relationship where we connected and we just spoke about sort of what we do every day. How are we doing it? Why are we doing it? How do you get better? Like I'm 68 and I'm still every day. I just I want it to be better than the next day and the next day and the next day. Thank you. And but but that's. I can't do it any other way.
There's a cost, though. There's a tax, like I would say. It's not a serious thing that we do, but it is if you care about craftsmanship.
Well, no matter what your job is. It doesn't matter. It's how serious, how do you take it? When you bring it home, can you leave it at work? All of those things. I never can do that. Never able to do that. When I did SportsCenter, I couldn't. I bring it home and I analyze everything I did.
Every SportsCenter I did for years, I get the videotape of SportsCenter and I would sit down after I did an hour-long SportsCenter and I would watch the entire SportsCenter to see what I didn't do right. Every single night. And the fun part of it is whatever you do wanting to be great, it's being able to turn that off at times.
And that's the toll that it takes where I'm already thinking about questions for Joe Burrow tomorrow morning as we sit here. Now it's not fair to you, but that's how my mind works. You're thinking constantly and it's hard to turn that off to have quality of life. I didn't have quality of life when I was at ESPN, But I didn't know I didn't have it. I was working second shift, four kids.
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Chapter 4: What challenges did Dan Patrick face after leaving ESPN?
I'm grounded by my family, my wife, my kids, my brothers, my sisters. I grew up in a family of six. You know, they're nothing special. Nobody got anything. I didn't get my driver's license till I was 18 because we didn't have a car. So you didn't need a license to ride your bike. So I'm like, well, why? I rode the bus my senior year in high school.
No one rides the bus their senior year in high school. I would stand out there with freshmen and I would be there, you know, these little guys had pimples on their face. I'm like, I'm a big basketball star. Like, what am I, how did I get here? But I came from a very humble family. And it keeps you grounded, but it reminds you of that, of who you are. Hey, you handed out a Super Bowl trophy.
Great. Go get me a beer. But that's the environment I grew up in.
It was three Super Bowl trophies. Four, to be honest.
What did love look like in the household? I never saw my parents kiss.
Old school somebody.
Old school somebody. I never saw them kiss, which uh i don't know sounds mind-boggling but it it was like i don't know you just kind of back then my parents let us do stuff and trusted us and you got home and you you know you you i don't know there was so much leeway but they also gave you that where you i had a head start when i got out of college I'm on my own. I've been on my own. I'm okay.
It's instead of, you know, let me be careful holding you in case you fall. But love was there. It was in a different definition of love. My dad would do whatever to always be there.
And my mom. I'm trying to figure out why you're as driven as you are. At ESPN, obviously, you enjoyed the success. You enjoyed the fulfillment. But did you enjoy the doing of it? Or were you too busy trying to win? Or trying to criticize every broadcast that the cost, the tax on what you were doing is that you couldn't enjoy it?
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Chapter 5: How does Dan Patrick balance personal stories with professional life?
You don't have to have the answer. Even if I know the answer, because sometimes somebody will go, hey, what do you think of that Luca trade? Because I think Dallas did pretty well here the first couple of years, but then the Lakers went, what do you think of that Luca trade? Just ask, what do you think of the Luca trade?
Having that and being a good listener is really, really important because most of the people I speak to don't wanna tell you something. They'll be on TV or radio, but they gotta be careful with what they're sharing, unless it's Charles Barkley.
all bets are off but listening it's amazing what people tell you when they're not trying to tell you something and i want to get you talking and when i get you talking it's amazing what you'll say that you don't even know you've said the commissioner of the nba the other day when i said give me the wildest thing that's come across your desk and he goes Well, here's something I like.
Okay, now, simple question. And then he said, how about we do 10 minute quarters? Instead of playing 48 minutes, we play 40. Well, it got picked up, it exploded. But it was a simple question at the end of the interview, and you just take a chance on something like that. And you also build up a rapport with people that you interview that they'll trust you. You can ask a tough question,
and and they'll respect you for asking that but I think in a way that you ask and and listen to what they're saying and I know it sounds crazy but if you try this with your kids or you try it at work or try it with your wife when you ask a question make it open-ended we got to the point where if I said to my son how's your day good then I said tell me what was the best part of your day
Well, then he was talking to me. And that's what you need to do. My girls, same thing. I just want you talking. And I think the interviewers who ask a question, why did you kill that person? They might say, I didn't. Why do people say that you killed somebody? Whatever it might be, getting people to speak. And I didn't realize it until this guy, John Swatsky, and he was from Canada.
We invited him to ESPN, and everybody had to take this seminar. I thought it was wonderful. But it was something so simple that was right in front of me that we're taught differently on how to ask questions. And if you can interview Mike Tyson or Dennis Rodman, go down the list of all the people that I've interviewed over the years that are tough interviews.
If you ask the question in a correct way, you'll get interesting answers. And I didn't know that until later in my career at ESPN. But we do it every day. We take great pride in the guests. When somebody says you ask great questions, and I always say, what was the answer? Because it's not a great question unless you get a great answer. And sometimes we in our business get caught up in,
Hey, I'm asking great questions. Or how did that sound? Or I sounded like I knew what I was talking about. How, when, where, why, who? Those are the best questions you can ever ask.
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Chapter 6: What is the dynamic between TV and radio personalities?
In the original incarnation of our radio show that was going to be on television, the producers of PTI came down and were going to see how they could televise that show. They came away five minutes, they packed up their stuff and they're left. They can't do that.
They're like, they're talking to Jim Brown about his penis size because he was in Playgirl magazine and he was trying to make a woman jealous by posing in Playgirl. We can't televise this on Disney. But the thing that they left with was seeing Stugatz in the hallways and saying... It's real. That thing is real. It's not playing a character.
It's marching up and down the hallways trying to pull a grift on somebody. And if there's one thing he's doing, he's turning nine and a half up to 10 on occasion because Mike Ryan's yelling at him that he's got to. Just stop being lazy and turn it up to a 10. He's got some interesting opinions on Stugatz. I'm sure he's never shared with me. He hasn't.
Like, he hasn't told me anything about Stugatz, but I can just imagine what he thinks of me needing the crutch of Stugatz in a way that noble, noble pillar of professionalism, Dan Patrick, wouldn't need a Stugatz to run around as a court jester to fool people into making him more entertaining than he actually is.
At his wedding reception, Stugatz showed up late. He missed the wedding. And he was there for the reception. And then he offered to give me a ride back to my hotel. And then he proceeded to ask me for a job. See? See?
It's real. It's real. It's lovely. It's funny. Thank you guys for coming tonight. And thank you, sir. Yeah, thank you. For trusting me with this. Thank you. We appreciate you making the journey. I don't know the proper way to say goodbye. How do we properly say goodbye to you and express our gratitude? I don't know what the greatest compliment is that Dan receives.
We often tell people that the greatest compliment that we receive is when listeners come through and say, hey, you helped me during a dark time. You were a bit of medicine for me, I will tell you, over the last three years. that the audience has been medicine for me during a great deal of pain. And so, if I tell you in a vacuum, this over here needed help and was helped by this.
This over here needed help and was helped by this. Are those people friends? Pretty close. Pretty close, so thank you. I say with genuine sincerity, on behalf of him, I'm as grateful and he's as grateful for what it is that you do for us, supporting our businesses, as we are for you. Because it's not a joke. You're the reasons we can do this.
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Chapter 7: How did Dan Le Batard and Dan Patrick become friends?
It's not normal to have an allegiance and a stickiness who wants to come out and listen to us for yet another hour. It's so... Like, my gratitude is sincere and I don't think his is any less than mine.
No, thank you. This is the reward when you get people to come out and that we do hear what we mean in your life. Whatever it is, sometimes we don't find that out. But sometimes when we do, it's very, you know, rewarding because...
that's what you're trying to do we're connecting with you whatever you're going through if we can help you through that we can make you laugh uh make you cry uh make you angry whatever we can do to get a reaction out of you but you allow us still to be in your life like i don't get along with my brothers all the time but they're my brothers and i love them we won't always get along but as long as we still believe that we're related there's a relationship there we'll be together forever so thank you
Thank you. Thank you.