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The Daily Show: Ears Edition

Trump’s “Big Beautiful Bill” Passes House, Takes From Poor, Gives to Rich | Dawn Staley

Fri, 23 May 2025

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Ronny Chieng covers the House passing Trump’s “Big Beautiful Bill,” trading Medicaid, food stamps, and the national debt for a waiver on silencer registration fees. Plus, the Big Beautiful Bill (Troy Iwata) can’t handle the Democrats’ poetic attack on his looks. Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem is asking undocumented migrants to self-deport for a $1000 stipend, and Al Madrigal is taking her up on the offer. He tells Ronny Chieng how he's living large in South Sudan, the DHS's new favorite war-torn dumping ground. Dawn Staley, basketball legend and head coach of the University of South Carolina women’s basketball team, talks to Ronny about her new memoir, “Uncommon Favor,” and how she’s built a championship program by valuing individuals over analytics and meeting her players where they are. Staley also recalls her experience of coaching through a heart condition – against doctors’ orders – to win the 2017 NCAA championship, and she offers some reassuring words to the Knicks after their Game 1 loss in the Eastern Conference finals.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Chapter 1: What is Trump's Big Beautiful Bill about?

114.021 - 117.862 Al Madrigal

One big, beautiful bill. I'd like to name it that, if you can.

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121.789 - 137.197 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

Really? Big Beautiful Bill? That's the best you could come up with? It's a stupid name. Okay, also, that's what Jordan Hudson calls Bill Belichick. The point is, nobody is going to go along with that.

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137.637 - 142.7 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

President Trump's so-called Big Beautiful Bill. One Big Beautiful Bill. Trump's Big Beautiful Bill.

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150.219 - 160.787 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

My God, I guess they are going to go along with it. It's a big, beautiful bill. The BBB. Although it is reminding some people of something else.

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161.207 - 170.914 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

Even if you're getting excitement from Capitol Hill and the White House over the BBL, the big, beautiful bill. Sorry.

173.436 - 212.62 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

Share your screen right now. Right now, share it or this interview is over. I love how flustered he got after that. It's the BBL. Oh, sorry, sorry, I mean butts. I mean big, juicy asses. Now, for those who don't know, a BBL stands for Brazilian butt lift. It is a procedure that some women get to enlarge their posteriors and it's quite popular with Instagram ass models or so I'm told.

215.22 - 242.022 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

I wouldn't know because my For You page is nothing but photos of my beautiful wife. I love you, baby. I would never follow 17 female golfers with huge asses online. This is the one show this year my wife actually came to. She's... She's watching this right now. But after months of negotiating last night, Republicans stayed up all night and passed a big, beautiful bill.

242.222 - 247.245 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

And maybe BBL was a better name because this bill is thick and mostly ass.

247.665 - 264.475

Here's what's in it. It extends the president's signature 2017 tax cuts, and that's at a cost of about $4 trillion. And that's paid for in part by nearly $700 billion in cuts to Medicaid, that health care program for those on the lower end of the income scale.

Chapter 2: How does the Big Beautiful Bill affect healthcare and food stamps?

391.978 - 407.696 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

Now when a mass shooter is going through a classroom, the other classrooms can keep learning. As you can imagine, though, Democrats are not fans of the big, beautiful bill, and they're ready to roast it with some slam poetry. It is not one big, beautiful bill.

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408.017 - 414.7 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

It's a big billionaire's bankroll bill. It's a big, disgraceful betrayal of the American people.

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414.82 - 422.824 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

This bill is brutal. It is not beautiful. I just don't see what Republicans find beautiful about this ugly bill. It's not beautiful. It's ugly.

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423.084 - 427.507 Al Madrigal

It has wrinkles. warts, festering sores, and scars.

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429.548 - 448.251 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

Okay, uh, we get it, but that's a little too specific. Sounds like you're describing something personal. This bill is gross and weird and has a mole with hair growing out of it and it's changing color. I'm talking about the bill. But should they see a doctor? Should they see a doctor, just hypothetically speaking?

449.112 - 467.008 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

For more on the reaction to the Big Beautiful Bill, let's go live to Washington, where I'm being told we actually have the Big Beautiful Bill itself. Bill, Bill, you just passed the House. Why are you upset? What's wrong?

467.308 - 493.043 Bill Murray

What's wrong? What's right, Ronnie? You heard all the mean things the Democrats said about me, calling me ugly, wrinkly, and yeah, I have warts, but HPV is extremely common. And why? Why? Just because I'd kick 7 million poor and disabled Americans off Medicaid? Uh, I mean, that's not great. Oh, like you're so perfect. This was supposed to be my special day. Call me crazy, I want to be approved.

494.664 - 514.264 Bill Murray

And loved, and kicked people off food stamps who I think don't deserve food. Okay, well that is kind of an ugly thing to do. Oh my god, ugly? Ronnie, maybe I should just go to my room, lock the door, and veto myself. Is that what you want? Would that make you happy? No, no, no, no, no, no, don't do that. It's so hard being a bill.

Chapter 3: Why are some Republicans against the Big Beautiful Bill?

516.465 - 530.585 Bill Murray

Like being talked about, being voted on, people treating me like I'm an object. You are an object. All I'm trying to do is be myself. Just live my truth and take healthcare away from trans people. Okay. What? That's in this bill?

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530.645 - 566.673 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

Holy shit. I can't change who I am. That's not... True, okay? Everyone can change. I mean, maybe we can make you beautiful. Maybe add some healthcare subsidies, money for children. Oh, kids? I don't know. Okay, well, let's start with something smaller then. How about you, I don't know, maybe try taking off your glasses. Wow. Wow, yeah, see? And maybe tussle your hair a little?

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571.194 - 579.416 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

Wow, maybe you can be beautiful. Hey, you know what? Why don't you tell me three things you like about yourself?

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581.557 - 593.641 Bill Murray

I'm fun. I'm cute. And I hate poor people. We should throw them into furnaces to power AI. Okay, no. No, you ruined it. You're hideous.

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593.681 - 600.405 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

God, I hate you, Ronnie. I'm going to the Senate. All right, the big, beautiful bill, everyone. When we come back, we go to South Sudan, so don't go away.

617.293 - 629.142 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

Welcome back to The Daily Show. If you're mad that President Trump is deporting immigrants back to their home country without due process, well, calm down. He's also deporting them to other countries without due process.

629.582 - 645.254 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

The Trump administration is accused of violating another court order on immigration by putting eight migrants on a plane from Texas. Immigration attorneys say they were deported to South Sudan, which is a war-torn country where the State Department advises Americans not to travel.

646.089 - 684.704 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

Wow, South Sudan. The only place more depressing than South Sudan is Madison Square Garden. That's the last nice Knicks game, right? Yeah. For the internet, we lost. So these deportations might seem cruel to some and legally dubious to others. But that's why the Trump administration released this video to show you that they can be also exciting and cool. Deportation rocks! Hail Satan!

687.145 - 707.954 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

You know, that's the funny thing about being a musician. I mean, one minute you think you're gonna be the next Jimi Hendrix, and the next minute your songs are being used in a video titled Gestapo Hype Reel 3.0. But if you would prefer not to be deported to heavy metal, you can always leave on your own. And in fact, if you self-deport, Trump will sweeten the deal.

Chapter 4: What is the controversial self-deportation program?

1054.457 - 1070.762 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

Oh, sorry, I'm saying if your team is up. Sorry, it's my bad. Your team is up by three. Sorry, yeah. Your team's up by three. There's less than 24 seconds left. NBA rules. NBA rules, so the advancement after timeouts and all that. If your team is up by three, would you foul?

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1071.422 - 1073.623 Dawn Staley

No, because I believe in my defense.

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1074.443 - 1085.251 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

Okay, well, someone should have told the Knicks that. They filed. They were up by three. They filed. They sent the other team to a free throw line. The other team scored two, and then they got the ball. The team filed them. Anyway.

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1085.431 - 1093.758 Dawn Staley

But what happened was an anomaly. Like, the probability of... Of the Knicks losing is not an anomaly.

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1094.058 - 1096.6 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

That happens quite a lot, actually.

1096.961 - 1097.681 Dawn Staley

Knicks in six.

1098.162 - 1104.685 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

Knicks in six? All right, good. All right, cool. Okay. Sorry, I cut you off. What do you mean it's not an anomaly? What do you mean?

1104.765 - 1108.767 Dawn Staley

That doesn't happen very often where you got a 17-point lead and you lose it.

1108.787 - 1110.008 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

No, it does not happen.

Chapter 5: How does Al Madrigal react to self-deportation?

1110.088 - 1117.112 Dawn Staley

So I probably would have been fouling the guy that was banging, like, five threes. I would not have let him get threes off.

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1117.312 - 1133.294 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

Oh, yeah, but that guy was. He was going out of control. He was shooting, like... Anomaly, like, yeah, that doesn't happen. He scored, like, 12 points in, like, a minute. He did. Which is... Only the Knicks could let that, yeah. The other thing I want to ask you is sometimes I watch a lot of NBA basketball and like compared to college basketball.

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1133.334 - 1149.683 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

And one thing I found was like the rule enforcement is a lot different in the NBA. You know, for example, even traveling calls or moving screens. You know, it kind of one of my things with basketball is so weird whenever in the NBA, they never call a moving screen for anything. You know, I mean, I don't know.

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1149.723 - 1150.704 Dawn Staley

Is that they did last night?

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1151.104 - 1159.757 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

Sure, yeah. But in your opinion, is this like... Is this just, okay, we just got to play this game now where screens are whatever they are?

1160.318 - 1185.163 Dawn Staley

Defenses are smart. So it's more of the defenses actually acting Because the only thing you have to do is fall. If someone sets a hard screen on you or somewhat illegal screen, if you just put your body, make contact, and fall, more than likely they want to call it. They want to call that call. And it's an objective call.

1186.246 - 1188.288 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

So you don't have a problem with the moving screen?

1188.828 - 1206.102 Dawn Staley

I'm going to say this. When you're playing against a really tough offensive player, you're trying to create an edge. So if they're coming off of screens and I don't think I can get back into play, I'm going to fake a foul. I'm going to run into the screener and fall.

1207.5 - 1208.641 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

Right. And try to get a call.

Chapter 6: What insights does Dawn Staley provide on coaching?

1307.008 - 1307.969 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

So you're going in saying that.

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1309.11 - 1313.293 Dawn Staley

I would, because at this stage of the game, if they drop another one, then they're done.

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1313.553 - 1317.677 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

Right. But this is an interesting coaching philosophy that less is more, almost.

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1318.325 - 1342.867 Dawn Staley

For me, less is more. Like, you actually have to know the pulse of your team. You have to look and see what they look like, what they sound like after that game. And you can probably look at the press conferences and hear what they're saying. And if they're saying, we let our foot off the gas, it's an anomaly, you know, we got this. I mean, they're up 17 with seven minutes left.

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1343.447 - 1351.129 Dawn Staley

You're supposed to win that game. And if they put themselves in a position where they're up 17 in any other game, they're going to win.

1351.469 - 1369.955 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

Sure. And this idea of coaching sometimes less is more in terms of motivating and coaching. I mean, reading your book, you talk about the 96 Olympics where I mean, fair to say your coach was pretty hard on you in 96. So I don't think that Tara, the coach- I learned from her. Oh, was she also less is more?

1369.995 - 1376.164 Dawn Staley

Because it seems like you said- No, no, she was more is more. So I went the opposite, but still, we win.

1377.245 - 1391.71 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

Sure. You adopted a philosophy. Why do you think that happened? Because you had a very tough coach at the 96 Olympics where you won the gold medal. And then you becoming a coach, you kind of went away from that philosophy a little bit. Why do you think that?

1391.93 - 1412.197 Dawn Staley

So I'm equally as tough But I'm more of a communicator. I'm going to let you know it's going to be tough. And I'm going to keep letting you know it's going to be tough. So I condition you to know it's going to be tough. So it's not necessarily the team not liking me, because I don't think we liked her during the process. Like my team likes me.

Chapter 7: What were the Knicks' mistakes in the last game?

1438.28 - 1464.058 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

Sure, sure. And obviously you've proven your philosophy to be somewhat correct in that way. So also, I mean, in basketball, there's this thing now where I guess analytics came in and there's this drive towards efficiency of the game, which has led to kind of almost like basketball by robots in some ways. Everyone kind of shoots the same. Everyone plays the same.

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1464.078 - 1487.722 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

We're shooting threes, you know, and it's this drive towards efficiency. which I think it's pretty clear that it is working. The efficiency is working. Points are higher than ever before. But it's kind of like losing a bit of the individual characteristics of individual players. There's no more people doing sky hooks. There's no more Kevin McHale's kind of low post games. No more mid-range.

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1487.742 - 1488.443 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

Mid-range is gone.

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1488.463 - 1513.122 Dawn Staley

It's threes or layups. And it definitely takes away the creativity of individual play. We can't do that on a collegiate level. Some teams can do it, and they put themselves in a position to win, but I've never seen anybody win championships. They win a lot of basketball games, but bottom line, you need to win championships. So if a person is really efficient,

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1513.662 - 1540.087 Dawn Staley

in the mid-range, the NBA analytics don't say, take that shot. Because overall, mid-range shots are obsolete at this point because you're better off taking a three-pointer, trying to get an advantage over a two-point, of course. But I allow our players to play free and take the types of shots that they practice.

1540.487 - 1543.407 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

Right. So you personally don't... No, no.

Chapter 8: What are the key takeaways from Dawn Staley's career?

1544.147 - 1565.419 Dawn Staley

You know, we had a guy that was so much in the analytics, and he was like, this is what the last national championship teams look like. This, this, this, this. And we didn't look like any of them, our team. We ended up winning in 2017, not looking like what the analytically correct teams, national championship teams look like.

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1565.799 - 1579.857 Dawn Staley

So I was like, okay, so you're saying if we do this, it's an automatic win. Right. And I'm like, no, it's not an automatic win because the players have to have to actually perform, not the numbers. And the numbers are part of it is just part of the game.

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1579.877 - 1598.146 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

But they're not the absolute. You told the nurse to shut the up and get out of the locker room. We're going to win this game without your stupid numbers. And as a as a coach, like when you look at players, how you draw the line between like. having a killer instinct as a player and being a good teammate.

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1598.407 - 1620.723 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

Because I think sometimes in culture, we really kind of put on a pedestal this idea of, I'm going to win at all costs as a player, as a human being. I don't care about anything but winning. And we kind of glorify that a bit in America. And I wonder if you can shed any light in terms of, is that correct? Or is that a balance between being a good teammate and being an individual kind of...

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1621.503 - 1634.236 Dawn Staley

Well, I think all human beings, we are creatures of habit, right? And, you know, you know what your habit is. I know what my habit is. My teammates, my players know what their habit is.

1636.418 - 1636.819 Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

Right.

1637.259 - 1639.061 Dawn Staley

So you would be a good teammate on the bench.

1639.201 - 1639.401 Dawn Staley

Right.

1639.902 - 1640.022 Dawn Staley

Yeah.

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