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This Could Change Your Children's Education Plan Completely

Tue, 27 May 2025

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What is Turning Point Academy Prep Year? Find out from Dr. Ty Gooch, the Prep Year's director, as he and Charlie deliver a major announcement that could change your child's education forever. Learn how TP Academy Prep Year can help young people grow in leadership, faith, intelligence, maturity, and more, before heading into the real world to battle against the many corrosive ideologies and temptations of modern life.   Head to turningpointacademy.com/prepyear today for more information! Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com! Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Chapter 1: What is Turning Point Academy Prep Year?

190.293 - 193.654 Jane Doe

They move into dorms, and they're going to really create what college should be.

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194.094 - 208.219 Dr. Ty Gooch

Yeah, but that would be a short-sighted statement of what the facilities are like. They're incredible facilities. The accommodations are off the charts. There's going to be a retreat center, conference center-like experience for the students, the size of the dorms, the excellence of the dorms.

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208.579 - 212.861 Dr. Ty Gooch

But more than just the experience on the outside, it's the way that their hearts and lives will be transformed.

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Chapter 2: How does the Prep Year differ from traditional college?

213.141 - 232.404 Dr. Ty Gooch

There'll be a week long modular training format where from a classical education perspective, helping students learn with rhetoric, helping students learn in a collegial style of learning where they don't just listen from lecture content, but they actually learn to engage and to think and then. with virtue and wisdom, how to apply the truths that they're learning.

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232.764 - 248.609 Jane Doe

So yeah, talk more about that. And also talk about your background. How did you lead to this? You're a PhD. You also played college football, which is awesome. Your journey, tell our audience about this and why you feel Prep Year is such an important project for the country and the kingdom.

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249.289 - 258.231 Dr. Ty Gooch

I've been involved in Christian ministry for the better part of the last 25 years, prior to which I did play football at Northwestern University, and I see you have a Big Ten representation back there.

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258.271 - 270.376 Jane Doe

I'm going to the Oregon Ducks-Northwestern game. Oh, that's great. That's great. Those tickets were so expensive because they're retrofitting their field. And I won't ask you who you're going to be for. Probably the Ducks, but my mom did go to Northwestern.

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270.496 - 287.486 Dr. Ty Gooch

Okay, fair enough, fair enough. So that experience, though, it was one where I learned myself to learn to engage with what it meant to stand for my faith. So I went from there and went and got a Master's of Divinity, and not a PhD, but a doctorate in ministry, which is relevant for this program because of the application of truth to life.

Chapter 3: What kind of mentorship is offered in the program?

288.027 - 294.511 Dr. Ty Gooch

And so as a part of this last 25 years of serving in ministry, mostly pastoral, I've also been in Christian education.

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295.231 - 321.973 Dr. Ty Gooch

just focused on teaching seniors in high school biblical worldview at a couple of different christian schools at a bible college a senior seminar capstone classroom program context where it's so evident students need to learn to finish well so they can go be influencers right away young leaders already leading in many ways now being prepared not just to go and sort of flail in the context of the ideologies that are being pumped out by some institutions

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322.315 - 327.697 Dr. Ty Gooch

but to go into flourish and what it means to be girded up in their faith and to influence others toward the ways of Christ.

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330.318 - 348.524 Jane Doe

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396.73 - 403.892 Jane Doe

You were a teacher, a guest speaker, a seminar, as these were seniors in high school. Talk about that more.

404.752 - 423.931 Dr. Ty Gooch

It's really a holistic perspective from the beginnings of understanding the clarity of what it means to understand the gospel of Jesus Christ. The perfect life and sacrificial death and resurrection from the dead of Christ. That's so critical that they understand it's not just a general faith, a general belief. There's specific tenets of the faith that are necessary.

424.352 - 447.586 Dr. Ty Gooch

And so from that standpoint, then moving to what do I do? and response to the gospel. How do I live? How do I think? What does marriage look like? What does stewardship look like of the gifts that I've been given, also of the resources that I've been able to glean, of the talents and skills? So all of that, in addition to some of the more nuanced aspects of intellect. Right.

Chapter 4: What qualifications do the students have?

585.734 - 588.557 Jane Doe

And so they have to pay very little, almost nothing.

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Chapter 5: What is the significance of biblical worldview in education?

588.597 - 595.263 Dr. Ty Gooch

Yeah. The students that get accepted, they'll pay $1,000 deposit fee just to let us know that they're seriously committed after they go through the intervent process.

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595.403 - 607.394 Jane Doe

That's incredible. And so I want to go back to something you said, and I'm sure that Turning Point Prep here will dive into this. Have you been taught how to learn the truth? Can you say that again and contextualize that more, please?

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607.474 - 624.448 Dr. Ty Gooch

Right. So in seminary context, in Bible training context, it's called hermeneutics. how to get at the truth. Everybody has access to the truth, but it's important to learn how to study the truth. Why? So that I don't bring my, I do as much as I can to put aside my inclinations and I let the scripture speak for themselves.

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625.028 - 642.323 Dr. Ty Gooch

We are overrun right now with people quoting from the Bible out in culture saying, oh, this is Jesus, this is truth. And they're really not representing the truth of Jesus at all. They're representing what they thought culture would demand and impose upon them, and then they're slapping Scripture on top of it. Instead of that, let's push culture aside.

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642.643 - 658.892 Dr. Ty Gooch

Let's let the Scriptures speak for themselves, and then let the Scriptures define culture, which is so much of what you do and what you have done with Turning Point in many, many regards. So hermeneutics, how to study the Bible. Let me learn step by step. Simple. It's not studying Hebrew. It's not studying Greek.

659.172 - 674.678 Dr. Ty Gooch

But there are simple God-centered ways, not people-centered ways, to learn to study the Bible. One of the methods is just look, learn, live. Look at the text. See what the author is saying to the original audience. Learn from the Scriptures based on what it objectively says, and then let's figure out how to live it out.

675.618 - 687.146 Jane Doe

And so let's apply that then to, would you say that most students coming into Prep Year have had a Christian education of some sort? Absolutely.

687.426 - 708.411 Dr. Ty Gooch

Absolutely. They are, at this point, for the applicants that we've gotten, number one off the charts in several ways. Some are worship leaders at their churches or in their context. Some are already super skilled in the area of graphic design and photography, etc. All of them. have a testimony of how the gospel of Christ has already impacted their lives.

709.151 - 725.022 Dr. Ty Gooch

Many of them already have begun to lead in spiritual context on their campuses or in their homeschool context, and now they're just eager for somebody to come alongside them to help them grow in what they've done. You wouldn't believe this. One of the students, we learned through the interview process, she had just written a

Chapter 6: What challenges does Christian education face today?

926.823 - 945.687 Dr. Ty Gooch

Or is it theory, ideological, and from culture and essentially from man? Whereas classical education, foundation, information, moving on to the middle stage, which is understanding, moving to virtue and wisdom. Which education, I've heard you say, education... Needs to lead forth. Yeah, it needs to move into that. Now, you know...

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946.107 - 958.593 Dr. Ty Gooch

Public education is saying that they don't extend virtue and wisdom, but they are trying to infuse with the ideologies a way in which it's applied. So we've got a great partner and our host in Dallas, in Fort Worth.

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958.653 - 959.573 Jane Doe

And talk more about that.

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960.46 - 980.049 Dr. Ty Gooch

You couldn't have a better first year start because the leaders, Dr. Dockery and at Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, so many like-minded leaders there, the provost and the dean of students, great leaders that are going to help us just by helping the environment be created and to create a means through which students might find another one of the pathways.

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980.669 - 993.856 Dr. Ty Gooch

which is academia, where they go in to be influencers. Maybe they're not a lawyer, but they go into the academia context and get degrees that will have helpful payoff, not just for what they benefit from financially, but how they can impact the culture.

994.297 - 1005.343 Jane Doe

And they'll also be exposed to the civic virtues as well from a biblical perspective, correct? Why is it that self-government and free speech are biblical? Talk about that as well.

1005.583 - 1029.04 Dr. Ty Gooch

Yeah, so already on turningpointacademy.com, there are resources for young students and older students alike to understand the Constitution, to understand the Bill of Rights, to walk through economics. And our leader, Jennifer Burns, the director of academics, she's laid out a great set of resources. Well, when these students get into the Prep Year program, they're going to walk through economics.

1029.48 - 1050.926 Dr. Ty Gooch

A fresh version, but from a biblical worldview. They'll understand that as you relate it to free speech. You chatted a little bit about that just recently. And to understand that even from Exodus, for instance, everybody knows the story of Exodus where the Israelites were freed from slavery in Egypt. Everybody thinks it's about them being treated poorly, which that did matter to God's heart.

1051.667 - 1071.601 Dr. Ty Gooch

But the most redundant, the most thorough expression of concern that God had is that they weren't free to worship him as he had prescribed. And so, yes, we will help students understand the importance of having the right to free speech, having the right to gather freedom freely and to express worship to God in the ways that he described.

Chapter 7: What outcomes can students expect from the Prep Year?

1217.926 - 1222.109 Dr. Ty Gooch

They have a fitness center. And so almost 200 acres of property.

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1222.129 - 1224.271 Jane Doe

You get the kind of college amenities.

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1224.631 - 1235.567 Dr. Ty Gooch

That's right. In an incredibly intentional context. Super safe, right? If I'm a parent sending my kid off to a place I've never been to before, super safe. The environment there is everything a parent could want and more.

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1236.327 - 1256.772 Jane Doe

And the – it will also lead itself to what college should be, which means partnership, right? It's – And talk about some of the instructors you yourself will be presenting quite a lot. And I can't think of almost any other college where they'll get this kind of singular instruction because the class sizes, quote unquote, will not be hundreds of people.

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1256.913 - 1257.013 Dr. Ty Gooch

No.

1257.333 - 1266.036 Jane Doe

No, it'll certainly be under 100. And this first year, it'll probably be closer to 30 to 40. Which is amazing. You think about the value proposition for a student. It's incredible, right?

1266.056 - 1281.922 Dr. Ty Gooch

Yeah. The intentionality, the ability to interact with the mentors, not just in that context, but also, Lord willing, long term. And so that exchange is going to be super valuable in addition to the students learning to take what they learn and take it back to where they go to next.

1282.557 - 1289.48 Jane Doe

Yeah, so let's talk more about, just for a second here, equipping disciples, because that really is the goal.

1290.221 - 1306.989 Jane Doe

And what would you say are some of the, not just approaches, the hermeneutical ones, but also just from a theological perspective, some of the things that you've learned, and I know you touched on this, but some errors that you want to try to write at this work you're doing at Turning Point Academy?

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