The Charlie Kirk Show
FIRST LOOK EXCLUSIVE: Analyzing My Interview with Gavin Newsom
Thu, 06 Mar 2025
It's out: Charlie's interview with Governor Gavin Newsom. Not only did Newsom make Charlie the first-ever guest of his new podcast, but he revealed that his own son is one of Charlie's biggest fans. But is Gavin himself actually as moderate as he tries to present himself? Charlie plays the most most electric clips and gives his after-action report of the explosive conversation. Watch ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Chapter 1: What is Charlie Kirk's interview with Gavin Newsom about?
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This is my conversation with Gavin Newsom. Enjoy everybody. Buckle up everybody. Here we go.
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So just to be very clear, why Gavin Newsom is hosting a podcast is pretty evident. He wants to try to run to the middle and try to moderate ahead of the 2028 presidential race. I am the first guest, and we had quite the conversation. Challenged him on a lot of different issues. Did not challenge him on everything I wanted to.
Anything that comes to – this is kind of how it works, so we'll go through a lot of the tape. I thought I did fine. The team thought I did well, and you guys will be the judge. Anything that has to do with California – It gets into basically a shouting match. And it's like, you don't understand. I know better than you. We're doing all these superfluous community committees.
And it just kind of gets deadlocked into a draw. It gets hyper emotional on anything related to a specific of California. The premise was that Governor Newsom wanted to have me on his program to learn from me and MAGA faithful as to why they are getting their tail kicked. And we went into it. We went into homelessness. We went into school closures.
And the one that is making the most headlines is the issue of men in female sports. And I love debate. I'll debate anybody at any time. And as far as if this is the best use of his time while people still do not have homes in the Palisades, that is a good argument. Now, this is the longer clip. Let's just start here. around men and female sports. This is going very viral.
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Chapter 2: Why is Gavin Newsom hosting a podcast?
I know. I just have a problem with, you know, who the hell is going to decide that government? I mean, Doron DeSantis is going to decide what I can read or say in the boardroom and the classroom.
This is the exercise of politics though. The exercise of politics is the highest form of community because it blends morality and sociability. So what we do is we have discussion and elections, and we have boards and commissions, right? And we as a people say, okay, no porn for 10-year-olds. And that's politics, right?
I mean, I'm not saying that there's some sort of— We've got a stress test where the Bible's including that. I don't even want to go forward anymore on this. No, it's tough, but this becomes a dialectic.
I have heard a lot. I've never heard—that's interesting, though.
No, I mean, it's a provocative— I don't think it's fair. I don't mean to offend, but I deeply— Don't mean offend. By the way, if Father Kaz would be offended with me. If you think the Bible is pornographic. Most of these books are quote unquote not pornographic. There's sections that can offend.
Of images that are very violating to young kids.
Some would agree on that. Can I just say one other thing?
If you want to learn, Governor, and I'm happy that there is a movement of moms that is not, that's growing, where they feel as if our kids are being hyper-sexualized. And I agree with them that they have to hear topics. Social media? Well, both in the social media and the classroom. So that's how you handle, in my opinion, the book banning issue.
And look, Governor Newsom said, I don't want to go any more forward on this. Because it's very easy to say book ban, book ban, book ban when you frame it as what it is, which is a common sense just kicking out of pornography in our schools. And him mentioning the Bible is just so ridiculous. The only reason I did not get indignant...
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Chapter 3: What are the key issues discussed between Charlie Kirk and Gavin Newsom?
What were you drinking? Napa Valley wine. Oh, Jesus Christ. Here we go. I'm going to stop using my Lord and Savior in vain like that, man. By the way, forgive me. I deeply respect you. And by the way, do respect your faith. I'm serious. It's like the fourth time.
I mean, come on. There's a contemplation of how many times he used our Lord and Savior in vain. I kept telling him to stop, and he kept on doing it. Let's go to more. There's so much here. The one I want to get into is Prop 16. So Prop 16 is one of the most radical things that has ever been proposed in the history of the state of California.
He was not prepared to be able to defend this, and he tried to weasel out of it, saying, oh, I don't know the details of it. This would have made racial discrimination legal in the state of California, and the voters of California overwhelmingly rejected it. He knew I got him on finally a California detail in 2020. I got him on one California detail. He was not prepared for Prop 16.
Kudos to Blake for pulling this one out. And it wasn't like a small thing. This was a major racial reckoning ballot referendum in the middle of 2020 that he endorsed. If you want to see kind of what he believes and why he believes it, he was not prepared for this one. He was, of course, prepared for wildfires, and he was prepared for homelessness. He's got all his little talking points for that.
Prop 16, whoop. A little bit off edge there. Play cut 187.
By the way, you're talking to someone who's never supported the defund police movement. I was explicit.
Hold on one sec. You did support Prop 16 in 2020, which would have legalized racial prejudice, right? Prop 16 literally would.
I have to go back to my Prop 13. No, no, no. You're smart. Prop 16. I taught 960 SAT, so a little humility. Hold on. You're the governor of the largest state in the country. No, no, no.
I saw your debate against DeSantis. You're good at this stuff. You know what I'm talking about. Prop 16 would have had legalized racial prejudice, which got defeated by 16 points despite all the institutions. So you're asking me what did wokeism look like when California, when all the institutions, yourself included, with all due respect, embraced this insane ballot measure. Guess what?
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