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Oh yes, it's late December once again. That classic changelog theme song is bumpin' and it is time for our seventh annual State of the Log episode. If this is your first time with us, welcome to the changelog. We are the software world's best weekly news brief. deep technical interviews, and weekend talk show that feels like hanging out in the hallway of your favorite conference only on repeat.
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Okay, let's do it. What's up, nerds? I'm here with Kurt Mackey, co-founder and CEO of Fly. You know we love Fly. So, Kurt, I want to talk to you about the magic of the cloud. You have thoughts on this, right?
Right. I think it's valuable to understand the magic behind a cloud because you can build better features for users, basically, if you understand that. You can do a lot of stuff, particularly now that people are doing LLM stuff, but you can do a lot of stuff if you get that and can be creative with it.
So when you say clouds aren't magic because you're building a public cloud for developers and you go on to explain exactly how it works, what does that mean to you?
In some ways, it means these all came from somewhere. Like there was a simpler time before clouds where we'd get a server at Rack Shack and we'd SSH or Telnet into it even. and put files somewhere and run the web servers ourselves to serve them up to users. Clouds are not magic on top of that.
They're just more complicated ways of doing those same things in a way that meets the needs of a lot of people instead of just one. One of the things I think that people miss out on, and a lot of this is actually because AWS and GCP have created such big black box abstractions. Like Lambda is really black boxy. You can't like pick apart Lambda and see how it works from the outside.
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