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The Bulwark Podcast

S2 Ep1051: Pete Buttigieg: Dream Bigger, Talk More Boldly

27 May 2025

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Democrats need vastly more imagination to confront the enormous challenges the country faces politically, economically, and on climate. The party can't just focus on stopping what is happening in Washington. Meanwhile, Trump can't stop insulting the intelligence of the American people, every part of the political spectrum has something to hate about the reconciliation bill, and libertarians need to speak up about a president disappearing people to a foreign black site. Plus, cracking the manosphere, what Biden could've done differently on Covid, and the era of politicians sticking to their talking points is over. Pete Buttigieg joins join Tim Miller. show notes Pete on the “Flagrant” pod on YouTube or on audio Remaining tickets for the live Bulwark show in Nashville on Thursday Plus, tickets for our live show “Free Andry” on June 6 in DC

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71.854 - 84.824 Tim Miller

Hello and welcome to the Bulwark Podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. Delighted to welcome back former mayor of South Bend, transportation secretary in the Biden administration. He ran for president in 2020, tied the Iowa caucus. It's Tinker Mayor, Soldier Secretary Pete Buttigieg. What's up, man?

85.845 - 86.826 Pete Buttigieg

I'm doing well. Good to see you.

87.146 - 100.969 Tim Miller

You got a lot of titles now. I don't know what to call you anymore. Yeah, let's just stick with Pete. Pete sounds good. I want to start with news, then we'll get into, you know. wither the Democrats, wither democracy and all that. And I guess those things are related.

101.509 - 124.473 Tim Miller

Over the weekend, Trump, both in a bleat on Truth Social and in a kind of a gaggle outside of an airplane, talked about how Putin's gone crazy and he's not the same man he once knew. And meanwhile, we got the Wall Street Journal reporting this morning that the U.S. is working on reinforcing Europe's northern front and preparing for an escalating war with Russia.

125.073 - 129.337 Tim Miller

as Russia's taking more territory in Ukraine over the weekend. I'm just wondering what you make of all that.

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