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The Bulwark Podcast

S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

22 May 2025

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Republicans moved at such lightning speed that even they don't know how many people would lose health insurance— or how much they'd be spiking the deficit with their highly risky and big, ugly turd of a bill. And they don't care because they're cosmically committed to stopping the government from making rich people pay for healthcare for people who aren't. Plus, Dem leaders have an age culture problem, environmental groups are stuck in a Ralph Nader time-warp, and the danger of radical politics and supporting Hamas hits home on the streets of DC. Jonathan Chait joins join Tim Miller. show notes Jon's new piece on the House GOP bill (gift) Jonathan Cohn on the proposed Medicaid work requirements Tim and Patrick Gaspard on Trump's lies about South Africa Jon's piece on John Fetterman (gift) Jon on Trump's immoral foreign policy (gift) Douthat interviewing JD Vance *Join Tim, Sarah and Crooked's Jon Lovett for a FREE ANDRY live show and fundraiser June 6

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104.329 - 119.72 Jonathan V. Last

Hello and welcome to the Bulwark Podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. Delighted to have back at the show, staff writer at The Atlantic, writing about American politics and policy and triggering John Podoritz and the far left daily. It's Jonathan Chait. What's happening?

120.26 - 121.681 Jonathan V. Last

I'm so glad to be on your show again, Tim.

122.562 - 140.26 Jonathan V. Last

It's good to have you. So we have passed, the House, rather, has passed by one vote, what they've termed the Big Beautiful Bill. Sarah Longwell and Bill Kristol are trying to rebrand as the big fugly turd. And I guess you have an article out this morning about how it's the largest upward wealth transfer in American history.

140.3 - 143.964 Jonathan V. Last

Why don't we just get your overall reaction, then we'll kind of go through the policy and politics of it.

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